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Minimus,
The cafe charges the girls 30 pesos a day for sitting there and conducting business. It is up to you whether or not you want to pay it for her. If you are just going for a quickie, and she will return, then no. If you are pulling her out of there for the rest of the day, then yes. She will ask, but it is your option.
Enjoy the life,
Moondog
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Ok Gentlemen,
I made it back and have a few new ones to share:
Salome: A Great Option with a few stools and tables and it's open till "6am". The girls cover the full range in looks, but with no 9's or 10's when I was there. The girls cost 100p/hr, 20p/drink (1 drink min) and 22p for the room. Being a Dickhead in training, I opted for the 16p roundtrip taxi fare to my hotel and saved 6p for the hotel. I got lucky with Roxana who provided all that I asked and more and didn't care about the clock. Try this place, I think you may like it!
Hook: What is the matter with these people? They just don't learn! Besides being empty of Men and only 8-10 girls on a friday night, they got us in there by saying 2 for 1 drinks. BTW, they knew very well who we (DH & I) were. So we enter and order a couple beers and pay for 2. Ok, we each have to pay for one so both of us can get our second for free. NOT! WE go to order our second and are informed that we have to pay for the second and then we can get the 3rd free. Forget it! We are out of there! The bartender is still a Royal F**k'n B*tch, Liar and Thief!
Cattos: What can I say, One of my favorites. Reasonably priced, they don't hustle you, plenty of girls and a Bartender (Luca) who could work anywhere. Let me give you an example: we asked one night why they only have one beer and why they don't carry Brahma. Well, guess what? The next night we walked in, they had a second selection - Brahma! A mangement that thinks, I like that!
Nuevo Estilo: Holy Sh*t! What can I say, but another must visit when in BA. Cheap beers (DH approved), Great Entertainment (DH approved) and some Great Companionship (also DH approved). There is a story here which I will share in my next report.
By the way, I spent four days in town and never made it to Recoleta, not even once. Believe it or not.
Just more opinions by one Mouse
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Hi fellas. I arrived to my favorite city in the world yesterday morning. It´s as beautiful as I remembered it. I haven´t been here since September. Damn I love this city. A few things. Prices have definitely crept up at the clubs. Also, prices have gone up for leasing apartments long term. I´d say prices are up a good 25% - 30% from a year and a half ago. Even commercial property leases are way up. We just signed a lease on a new office near Recoleta and prices are almost double. Ouch.
I put an offer on a beautiful 2 bedroom apartment a few short blocks from Jackson´s old apartment on Junin. I hope they accept it because I´m tired of looking at apartments. I looked at like 10 of them already.
On to the good stuff. My buddy, T.B.D. and I went to Madahos last night. At 11:30 PM there wasn´t much talent but by 12:30 AM it was jam packed. Some were really hot. T.B.D. hooked up with a hot Paraguayan chick. She stood firm at 300 pesos so all I could do was negotiate for more time for him. Something like 2 hours. He said she was one of the best sessions of his life so I was happy for him. She wouldn´t budge on the price which was surprising but she was one of the hotter girls in there before midnight. Prices are steep at 50 pesos for the girls. At least it´s only a one drink minimum to pull them out.
I wasn´t going to see anyone because I already went to 1707 Santa Fe and had a session earlier that night. The talent was not too good but there was a few decent girls. First time I sessioned there since my buddy was waiting downstairs. I didn´t want to pull a girl out of Madaho´s but I saw an old friend and she wouldn´t let me leave alone. I finally left with her and didn´t regret my decision. Another hot session.
I´m excited to live down here but I doubt if I´ll be hitting the clubs too much once I move down here. I´m here another week then heading to Chile with my novia.
We hooked up with a dude I met in Rio at a terma last year. He is a pretty mellow guy. He just called so we´re gonna go to dinner together then hit the clubs. This will be my last vacation for a while. I guess living here will sort of be like a vacation.
More later.
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Andres,
I checked out Lavalle 1735 last March and it was a real dump with several cows. Prices were like 40 pesos but I wouldn't even do or touch some of those fat ones for free.
WW
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Yo amigos. I´m really tired today. We went to a bunch of clubs last night and most of them sucked. We went to dinner in Puerto Madero at Puero Cristal which is always good. Then we hit a few downtown clubs. Ness, Hook´s, Cattos, Cuttysark. They all pretty much sucked. There might have been one or two cuties but some of them were scarey. We also hit Salome. There were two cute girls but I just wanted to show my buddy and the Rio guy the different clubs. Finally we went to Madaho´s by 12:30 AM. It was hopping. I was so dead I didn´t think I´d pull a girl out but of course some girl I was talking to was rubbing against me and I left with her. My buddy T.B.D. left with her amiga. Both were from Buenos Aires. We both had great sessions.
This morning I woke up and took my Spanish test to see which level I´d be in. The test was damn difficult so they will probably place me in some pre-intermediate course. Oh well. I´ll have time. I´m in the middle of trying to get a one year student visa so I´ll post how the process is and how it goes. So far, so good. I think with a one year student visa I´m told I can get a residency ID.
I might just rest today. I hope they accept my offer on the one year lease. Dick Head also PM´ed me so hopefully I can hook up and meet him before I leave to Chile.
The weather is brisk but not too cold in the low 50´s during the day. The exchange rate at the casa de cambios is 2.92.
Chau.
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Woof Woof:
Thanks for your input. It will help me (and perhaps others) to avoid that particular place.
Andres.
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Well I rested yesterday and today I was raring to go. I did the tried and true MM technique and pulled out my phone numbers to see which would give me wood. But I already had wood. So value came to the forefront. I like to do two things: get drunk and then get laid, and get laid and then get drunk. I was sober so opted for the latter and wanted to do the whole thing for less than 100 pesos.
I selected Maipù 429. I chose my girl and then they gave me the spiel about how prices had been raised to 100. I pretended to leave and they pretended to care and then my 80 pesos prevailed. Then I swear they gave me someone other than my selection and I pretended to care and she pretended to be offended. I said, "Are we done pretending now?" and she took me to a room and gave me a beer and we got naked and had GREAT sex. Brazilera, said her name was Karen but I don't think that is the name she gave in the line up. VERY highly recommended. 26, no kids, great ass, some tits, BBJ but CIM not on the menu, likes sex, made her cum with my finger but AFTER I did since tonight is all about me, friendly, tried for more after, almost got it. Since the name is bullshit I think the way to pick her out is the business suit she wears. I really liked this girl.
She said she knew no English but wanted to learn. I said you need to know three phrases and say them in this order: "What is your name?" "Blow job," and "Everything OK?" So if you run across a chick who can only say these things, that is she.
Then I bought 3 50 centavo chocolate bombones and went to Pelvi's. That caused me to be poured such large whiskies that I am drunk and for 0.75 bus plus 80.0 Maipu plus 1.5 bombon plus 12 for two whiskies plus 2 tip I have 0.75 left for bus, 1 peso to report to you, and 1.55 pesos for another quart of Brahma, plus 0.45 for ????
Bueno.
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One word of caution and a differing opinion about Salome. Many say this place is a real treat and I beg to differ. Strictly due to priceing. I went there a year and a half ago, several times amd pulled several 8's out for a max of 150 pesos TLN. Very sweet girls. I have been there several times in the last 4 months and am very disappointed. Now mind you, I am tall, athletic, slim, and usually have no problem most nights with "normal girls", ergo I am not hideous looking and, I have a very firm grasp on Spanish, even with a little Porteno accent on occasion. So the following pricing, I believe is not due to my hideous looks.
Now, back to Salome. Recently there were F------ gorgeous, young hard "schoolgirls" ( dressed in Catholic school girl skirts) that are basically only there to take your money in the form of drinks during conversation. Very similar to the joint across the street. These 9's and 10's, basically are not on the program for any price, just tips and drink kickbacks. The normally dressed girls are the ones on the program. The program girls now are very expensive, IMHO.
Now, as one who is a frequent purchaser of 40 pesos/hour 8.5's-9.5's with total GFE, I may be biased and spoiled. As an example of my standards, Paula, the psycho b---- from Exedra, is barely a 6.5 on the Latina Addict scale of Latina pussy. But these 8's and 9's that are at Salome are very stubborn on their 150 pesos/hr pricing with TLN, much higher than I hear can be obtained at Hook's for example. (I have never even stepped foot in Hook's due to the extreme pricing policy and the c---- for a bartender from previous reports.)
I spoke with the manager at Solome and he basically said those are the prices and that, they feel the prices are reasonable for the chica quality, and, that the prices are set by the chicas.
I would like to personally apologize to Jackson for those of us that have run up the prices at Salome. A year ago or so, when Salome was exposed on this board, poor Jackson said he did not speak of Salome before because it was one of his favorite places, and did not want the place to be ruined. Well gentlemen, maybe it is not ruined by Gringo standards, but by Argentinian, nice, bargain, safe places to go, it has been corrupted. The value is gone forever.
I will never be back to Salome for the previously stated reasons, but if you are a Hook's, Ness, Catto's, etc. kind of guy, then Salome needs to be at the top of the list for you.
Andres, what is your take? We are of the same P4P standards, so it seems, and there are tons of better bargains out there for those daring to dig a little deeper.
Latina Addict
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Damn it´s nice out today. Starfe, T.B.D. and I went to one of the restaurant´s Otto recommended in San Telmo. 1800. It was great. A simple neighborhood restaurant that had great eats. About one-half the price of Recolta places. Otto sure knows food. The price for dinner and a bottle of wine for 3 people was under $40 US. God bless Argentina.
After that we went to Madaho´s and Starfe picked up a blondie with a super body. T.B.D. picked up a girl with a model face. Jesus. This morning he was indicating she wasn´t too GFE with him though. It was kind of strange because while he was talking to her she was telling me she wanted to leave with me. Uncomfortable feeling for me. There weren´t too many dudes in there before 1:30 AM when we left. Many locals on any given night and Friday´s must be time to spend with their families. I was dead tired and left home alone and got a few hours sleep. I had to get up early to see an apartment.
I decided to tell one of the owners of a place to go f$%& herself. She kept raising the price on me after agreeing to a price. What a jacked up system here. Now I see why some of these people are in such a mess financially. I found a beautiful apartment this morning in Recoleta near my old apartment. I´m happy and will sign on Monday. Looking for apartments here longer term is a major pain in the ass now. Also, all the realtors want a 10% of the total annual fee or one month´s rent as their commission which is the same as before.
We are pretty content with Madaho´s. We might check out Black tonight. I haven´t been there in a while. I can´t wait to move here in August. I just found out Dickhead lives here full-time. This could be dangerous....or at least interesting...ha,ha.
Once I live here I will need to stop going to the higher end places and just look for normal girls or follow DH to some of his stomping ground places. I hope to hook up with him tomorrow.
Saint
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Latina Addict:
I had my last experience in Salome 5 or 6 weeks ago (I think that I reported it), with a mature girl who previously worked at Nuevo Estilo.
She accepted ar$100. Since I had to wake up early next morning, I didn't ask her to stay beyond 3AM, but she may have been available for TLN for those ar$100. Of course, there were chemistry between us. and the girl knew me from nuevo Estilo.
Why do I say all that stuff? Because I want to point out that YMMV. Most girls will stick to ar$150, but others will negotiate.
In any case, Cocodrilo raised its entrance price to ar$30 (crazy value), so I can say that Salome isn't necessaily raising its prices because of foreign mongers but because of a general increase of the higher income bracket.
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Re Salomé: Mouse got a nice girl out of there for 100 no problem.
Well, last night I was all set to achieve my goal of getting laid and drunk and home for 100 pesos. However I then went to Don GalÃ*ndez where I met a young Argentinean college student (male) who was studying history and wanted to discuss colonialism and imperialism and the differences between how they developed in the US and in Argentina. He also said he had heard a lot of American women are fat. Please let's not go there. We went for coffee and then I went home. So fine, I spent 108 pesos instead of 100.
But when I say "home," I mean I made it to my corner but then mysteriously went to The Shamrock instead, which was jam packed with gorgeous young Argentineans and several bitchy American girls. I had a couple of more beers to the tune of 10 more pesos and then I was horny again. Lacking sage counsel, I thought, "What would the Mouse do in this situation?" Well, I figured the Mouse would probably grab four or five girls from a club for TLN and I am not in a position to do this.
So I developed the Dicky Mouse idea to go to Suipacha 921 and have both my yegua Katarina and the fine brown Priscila at the same time. The madam, whom I also want to fuck but who is spurning me, said they were both available so I went there and had a great time. But 2 for the price of 2 is not really my style and for some odd reason Priscila would not kiss me after Katarina sat on my face (Katarina had no such compunctions). BTW the girls were very conscientious about changing condoms every time we switched off and in fact Priscila had to go get more. Towards the end of the session it became obvious that Katarina was doing more for me and Priscila got a little pouty. Therefore I selected Katarina to be the recipient of what little semen remained, which she indicated should probably go in her butt. I declined and finished doggy style which the Brazilian at Maipú referred to as "cuatro"; never heard that before. Then I told Carolina the madam how bad I wanted her and could I just kiss her on the lips and she said no fucking way after what you were just doing. Ha ha. 200 pesos lighter.
But unfortunately this apartment is directly across from Catto's and inexorably I was drawn there, like a moth to a flame. Trite, I know. Fabián indicated that my favorita would be there in half an hour or an hour, which I a) did not want to happen and b) did not believe. I had three BRAHMA beers, fending off Rosa MarÃ*a and numerous others who wanted El Toro Rojo, and then left about 2:30, shy another 32 pesos.
Unfortunately I have a poor sense of direction in addition to very poor judgement and I turned left at Paraguay instead of right and found myself somehow in the doorway of the shoe store on Florida talking to Andrea and Karen. They kept repeating some phrase I did not understand. My Spanish is very poor. What does "vamonos" mean? Anyway I took Andrea back to my apartment and let her suck my dick for about half an hour and then I banged her but it was all futile. She had said she had to leave after an hour and she did. So there went another 100 plus 5 for her taxi plus 4 for ours.
As Casey Stengel said, it's not drinking and chasing pussy that's ruining my ballplayers; it's staying out all night doing it.
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The Pirate Returns to BA - Day One
Another long and half sleepless flight from the US and I am back in BA. I grabbed a Remis (47 Pesos) and I was off to my hotel. After I got checked in I took a shower and decided that I should grab a quick bite to eat before I "nap" for the afternoon. Off I go to Recoleta to grab lunch and a beer (I should add that I really had to convince myself to skip a nap immediately after checking in - yes I was that tired).
Ahh...to be back in BA and walking the streets of Recoleta. I see that they finished the construction on that hotel across from Black (the last time I was here it was a real mess). After eating an two beers the "urge for some action" hit me like a ton of bricks. Small problem - I left my notes/lists and the hotel. So I have to go off of memory (not good). I opt to go for my old reliable "1707". Yes, I heard that it went down hill since my last visit but I was in real need.
I arrived at 1707 (Santa Fe Apt 3) and Sylvia buzzes me in and tells me that she has 4 chicas. The 1707 Parade gets under way and I opt for Augustina. A tall, cute dark haired girl from Argentina. I settled for 45 mins with "no extras". The session was good - not great. CBJ, light kissing and 3 positions. But here is the funny thing. We do missionary and cowgirl (in that order) then I want to finish doggie. When she flips over I have to take a double take. This girls tail bone stuck out at least a quarter inch. It literally looked like she had a tiny tail. It was both funny and unsexy at the same time. My eyes locked in on it and stayed there - it was tough to finish. Has anyone else ever noticed this? wow. So I do the deed get dressed and I'm now on my way back to the hotel for my much needed nap. I have not decided where or what I will do tonight. But stay tuned - I assure you that there is more to come.
P.S. Grab some pesos at the "Enclosed" ATM at EZE. After you clear customs, take a right. It is down about 45 yards on the left. IMHO it is the best/easiest ATM to use during your trip.
Stay Safe
The Pirate
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Pirate,
The woman I spent days with in B.A. also had a little bone thing sticking out when she was in certain positions. It didn't turn me off, but it was unprecedented. Hers didn't stick out 2 inches, only about 3/4 of an inch. It was right at the very top of the ass crack, kind of still in it. Is this what you mean? My woman is very thin, and fit. I don't know if that is a factor.
Just letting you know so you don't think you are crazy.
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Hi all, I am going to be in Buenos Aires from Wednesday. It would be great to meet anyone from WSG (I have mongered on several continents but it will be my first time in BsAs).
Please PM me if you are in town.