Cafe Exedra

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435365]We then had a very pleasurable and unrushed 2 hours together. She was so good that I tipped her an extra 200 pesos, making it an even thousand. [/QUOTE]Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.

Just something to think about.

DR

TL,

Thanks for the pricing info..

I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;435371]Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.

Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435376]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.[/QUOTE]I promise you Bruce, even if you don't come back for 5 years, the hive-mind will remember you!

It's an unfathomable phenomenon!

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435376]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.[/QUOTE]This is where Gringo pricing starts!

[QUOTE=MJsummit;435374]TL,

Thanks for the pricing info..

I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Check your PMs.

Thanks,

TL.

[QUOTE=Gandolf50;435378]This is where Gringo pricing starts![/QUOTE]I hate criticizing a brother but I agree.

Here's the conversation with her friend.

Chica 1: "Gringo que me cogi me dio 200 pesos adicionales" (That gringo I fucked gave me 200 extra pesos).

Chica 2: "No me digas, que loco" (Shut up, how crazy).

Chica 1: "Si verdad, te juro, que estáand hechos de plata" (No it's true I swear to you, they are made of money).

Now here's the conversation with you.

Monger: Vaaamos a mi apartamenter yo paygote kenyenteros pesos (Lets go to my apartment I'll pay you 500).

Chica 2: Thinking (La gorda vale 1000, me valgo 1200, fat maria got 1000 I'm worth 1200) "No mi amor, 1500 minimo" (No honey it's 1500 minimum [She's holding 300 back for wiggle room]).

Monger: (This chick is crazy, she's got 20 kids and her tits are going to bounce off the floor when she takes that bra off but there's nobody else here and I want to fuck somebody) Mi amoral yo tango 600.

Chica 2: Thinking (Fat Maria made 1000, If I sit here long enough somebody will pay me that) No gracias.

Rules of chicaland "A chick puts her worth at the highest number that she has ever HEARD that anybody has EVER been paid." Ask Jax about buying a mirror for his apartment someday.

DR, There is truth to what you say, and I know you want us tourists to stop paying too much. But I think you are over-generalizing. Most chicas will set their rates based on averages, not outliers. If some guy comes along and pays double the average, yes that outlier may influence some chicas to try to get more. But no way does that translate into the chica or her friends automatically expecting double from all customers. And how you talk her up is always a factor. Tell me where I'm going wrong.

Monger: Lets go to my apartment I'll pay you 500.

Chica: No honey it's 1500 minimum.

Monger: 1500? Baby, where do you get that number from?

Chica: That's what other customers pay.

Monger: That can't be possible. I have several friends who come here, they pay 400 or 500 pesos.

Chica: No, not possible.

Monger: One of my friends paid 1000 pesos once, but that was for multiple hours. Maybe you're thinking multiple hours. Look, I know people who come here all the time, I know what the rate is. 500 per hour. I will offer you 500, and if we have a good time, I will include a tip, no problem. (raise to 600 if one of the hotties).

Chica: How much tip?

Monger: If we have a really good time, maybe 100.

Admittedly, this is where I move a BIT into gringo pricing, but just a bit. As a tourist my time is precious, so I aim for average to slightly above the average, as need be. The tip approach gives the chica an incentive, and me the option to save 100 if she doesn't perform well. Works almost all the time, especially after some time chatting, laughing and drinking with the chica. The key is knowing where the average is, for the quality of chica you're dealing with.

I had three different chicas from Exedra.

The first I paid 600.

The next I paid 500.

Then I had a 2 for 1 at 500 each.

Hold your ground gents!

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;435371]Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. [/QUOTE]BTW- Argies don't tip because the chica's incentive is repeat business. If the chica knows you're a tourist in town for a short time, this incentive is very limited. You can increase it a bit by saying you're in town for 3 more weeks (even if you're leaving tomorrow). But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]BTW- Argies don't tip because the chica's incentive is repeat business. If the chica knows you're a tourist in town for a short time, this incentive is very limited. You can increase it a bit by saying you're in town for 3 more weeks (even if you're leaving tomorrow). But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.[/QUOTE]I live here, money is more important than time. I speak Spanish (poorly, but I speak enough) and in my experience it just doesn't matter. If you are a Yankee, they know somebody who some other Yankee paid 2 x the going rate and they won't settle for less. You can work the amount for more time as you said, they will say 1200 for two hours but they are gone in 45 unless you argue with them and who wants to do that. And who wants to have a girl around for 2 hours unless you like them.

I would bang a couple girls from Exedra but they are nuts. The older ugly chicks want 600-1000 an hour, younger hotter 800-1200.

These are just the chicks who's name starts with the letter A off Baires and the local forum I have sessioned with;.

450 hr, 400 on Saturdays [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Azhul_15-6999-9212_12114.htm[/URL].

600 an hour and will fuck you to death [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Agostyna_15-3859-4651_8930.htm[/URL].

400, not great but if you're hungry for a spinner with big fake titties its a visual thing. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Aimar_15-6867-1435_11502.htm[/URL].

Hell Alexia even runs specials for 400 some days if you want a 35 year old hottie. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Alexia%20SI_15-3272-4476_4675.htm[/URL].

400 conventional /500 complato total P.S.E. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Axel_15-2431-4649_12301.htm[/URL].

These are all indies not privado girls so it's not like they are fucking 10 guys a day (and privado girls don't do that many).

What's the difference? Not a lot of extranjeros are going to see them. They service almost exclusively Argentines and are subject to a very active and often critical forum. The VERY highest priced chicks are 900 with these indies and for most of them it's an hour fucking, normally an hour 20- and hour 30 for the whole session. Those chicks are be and see list model hot and will seriously lay some pleasure on you.

I hate sounding like one of the price police, it's not my money and I think people should spend it as they wish. But to say there isn't an effect and that it can't be controlled just isn't true.

DR.

I'd just like to get a little at night sometime is all.

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]the chica's incentive is repeat business.[/QUOTE]Not if she's Argentinian!

If she's Argentinian she has absolutely zero concept of repeat business and can't see further ahead than the end of her nose!

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.[/QUOTE]Excuse me to point this out, but in my opinion you are completely mistaken about the girls here.

Suppose you see a girl that quotes 500 pesos an hour. If you tip her a 100 pesos before the session, she will just think that you're a gringo with extra money to give away. No more than that. She will say Gracias but the 100 peso will NOT help you in receiving better service than someone who pays 500.

Or, suppose you're happy with a girl when the session is finished and tip her a 100 after the session. Again, she will say "Gracias mi amor!" but if you come back the next day to see her again, will she be ready to give you better service? NO. Just like anyone would look at her as a 500 peso / hour girl, she will look at you as a 600 peso client, and I can guarantee that she will be upset if you don't pay her the original 500 plus the 100 tip again.

A deal structured with a tip does NOT help the session towards better service. This applies not only to girls but to almost any business run by Argentines.

People don't understand Argie economics. Here a used car (all used vehicles) go up in price every year, not down like in other countries. People often sell things that are well used for the price of a new one saying that it is better now that it is broken in. Some one could be starving and have no money to eat but will turn down decent paying work because they "deserve" more! I've never seen a more a $$ backwards country economically. Chicas are just a extension of this. There are a lot of ass holes that come to this country and pay 10 times the girls worth because they never had a decent piece of a $$ before and now they are in love. Then the girls all think that this is the "new" norm. People don't understand Argie mentality and continue to contribute to the fantasy land mentality of the average Argie.

[QUOTE=Esten;435384]DR, There is truth to what you say, and I know you want us tourists to stop paying too much. But I think you are over-generalizing. Most chicas will set their rates based on averages, not outliers. If some guy comes along and pays double the average, yes that outlier may influence some chicas to try to get more. But no way does that translate into the chica or her friends automatically expecting double from all customers. And how you talk her up is always a factor. Tell me where I'm going wrong.

[/QUOTE]Esten, I assume from your previous posts that you speak better than passable Spanish. If that assumption is correct, you forget that many of the gringos who come to BA looking for pussy speak little or no Spanish. I can tell you from "pretending" that I spoke very little Spanish that the pricing was different than when I spoke to the chicas in fluent, albeit university, Spanish. They knew that I was a tourist on both occasions.

Tres3.