Question: What do Obama supporters and sperm have in common?
Answer: One in 50,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being
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Question: What do Obama supporters and sperm have in common?
Answer: One in 50,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being
Ok Snake, you are conversing with certified public accountants who are telling you Romney did something wrong without seeing any documentation or filings other than those which have been released so far?
They must be expressing POLITICAL opinions as they would probably be terminated for expressing such opinions professionally based on what is out there now. I doubt their employers would be thrilled having CPA's expressing their considered professional opinions with total lack of information.
If having an offshore account were a crime, as you seem to believe, then we need look no further than the senior White House staff for culprits. Valarie Jarrett would be one of the first ones on the list. As you seem so concerned about folks defrauding the government, why aren't you more concerned about welfare fraud and other federal handout program fraud? Even more to the point how about all of Obama's 'green' friends getting so much money from the Fed for companies in which they are major investors?
Ah, I see it now, you are only interested in pointing the finger at conservatives. If you do a little checking some of the worst offenders are LIBERALS and those DIRTY RICH LIBERALS who always back causes to give away other people's money but never their own.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424605]Ok Snake, you are conversing with certified public accountants who are telling you Romney did something wrong without seeing any documentation or filings other than those which have been released so far?
They must be expressing POLITICAL opinions as they would probably be terminated for expressing such opinions professionally based on what is out there now. I doubt their employers would be thrilled having CPA's expressing their considered professional opinions with total lack of information.
If having an offshore account were a crime, as you seem to believe, then we need look no further than the senior White House staff for culprits. Valarie Jarrett would be one of the first ones on the list. As you seem so concerned about folks defrauding the government, why aren't you more concerned about welfare fraud and other federal handout program fraud? Even more to the point how about all of Obama's 'green' friends getting so much money from the Fed for companies in which they are major investors?
Ah, I see it now, you are only interested in pointing the finger at conservatives. If you do a little checking some of the worst offenders are LIBERALS and those DIRTY RICH LIBERALS who always back causes to give away other people's money but never their own.[/QUOTE]I have never stated or implied that having an offshore bank account is a crime; I have repeatedly stated that utilizing (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes and hiding money in offshore accounts is conduct unbecoming of someone aspiring to be POTUS; Romney has conducted himself along these lines for years. Obama has never been personally accused of welfare fraud, tax avoidance schemes, hiding money off shore, or any other potentially illegal or unbecoming activity. For all practical purposes, this election is a one on one between Romney and Obama and not any of the other people you mentioned so whatever they did or did not do is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424605]Ok Snake, you are conversing with certified public accountants who are telling you Romney did something wrong without seeing any documentation or filings other than those which have been released so far?
They must be expressing POLITICAL opinions as they would probably be terminated for expressing such opinions professionally based on what is out there now. I doubt their employers would be thrilled having CPA's expressing their considered professional opinions with total lack of information.[/QUOTE]What occurred is exactly what I stated in the earlier post: in private conversations with high level CPA's who formerly and currently work / worked for Ernst and Young and Deloitte it was revealed to me that Romney utilized (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes and participated in the IRS amnesty prior to 2010 to repatriate funds held in a Swiss bank account. I can tell you that the Ernst and Young conversations took place in Buenos Aires within the past ninety days.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424607]...is conduct unbecoming of someone aspiring to be POTUS...[/QUOTE]And yet somehow befriending Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers and attending radical racist Jeremy Wright's church for 20+ years (to name a few) is acceptable conduct of someone aspiring to be POTUS?
Snake, there is no way they could know any of these details unless they worked on his account. As far as amnesty, again unless they were working on the his accounts they could not have this information. You have already precluded their working for the IRS. If these so called sources did work on his accounts and are now discussing this matter with unrelated third parties they have committed profession malpractice, a civil tort, and in many states a criminal offense as well.
You keep noting it is "now illegal", so what is the problem you have with engaging in legal conduct at the time the transactions occured?
Because a statute changes it does not make prior legal conduct now becomes suddenly illegal.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424613]You keep noting it is "now illegal", so what is the problem you have with engaging in legal conduct at the time the transactions occured?
Because a statute changes it does not make prior legal conduct now becomes suddenly illegal.[/QUOTE]I think I have made it clear that I am not accusing Romney of engaging in any illegal activity; only shady, sleazy, and deceitful activity meant to defraud the US Treasury, conduct that is unbecoming of an aspiring POTUS. As I have said, it is just fine if Jackson, myself, Toymann or any other fat cats engage in this sort of thing because we are not running for POTUS. Romney, on the other hand IS running for POTUS and thus is judged on a higher standard. I am pretty sure a 10 year old child or even a golden retriever can understand this.
[QUOTE=Jackson;424611]And yet somehow befriending Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers and attending radical racist Jeremy Wright's church for 20+ years (to name a few) is acceptable conduct of someone aspiring to be POTUS?[/QUOTE]The Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers issues are old news and Obama was already elected AFTER those issues had been brought to light so clearly, at least in the eyes of the voting US public, associating with those figures was not judged as conduct unbecoming of an aspiring POTUS. I tend to think that Romney's association with the Wall Street Masters of the Universe, the same guys who through their greed and riverboat gambling caused (in part) the current undesirable economic situation, will be much more damaging among Ohio and Florida working class voters who are underwater on their mortgages than Obama's past association with some obscure unimportant religious figures.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424614]I think I have made it clear that I am not accusing Romney of engaging in any illegal activity; only shady, sleazy, and deceitful activity meant to defraud the US Treasury, conduct that is unbecoming of an aspiring POTUS. As I have said, it is just fine if Jackson, myself, Toymann or any other fat cats engage in this sort of thing because we are not running for POTUS. Romney, on the other hand IS running for POTUS and thus is judged on a higher standard. I am pretty sure a 10 year old child or even a golden retriever can understand this.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Shady, sleazy, deceitful activity by a USA President? Whoever heard of that?
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Richard Milhous Nixon.
William Jefferson Clinton.
Barrack Hussein Obama.
It's a prerequisite for the office. Not only for president of the United states, but USA Congressman and Senator too. Our elected politicians are running Ponzi schemes like Social Security, Fannie and Freddie that make what Bernie Madoff did look small. If Romney oversaw similar accounting manipulations as CEO of Bain, he'd be in jail.
Speaking of which, in this day and age when the USA is about 10 or 20 years away from being like Greece, I can't think of a better person to turn it around than a private equity guy who successfully restructured bankrupt companies. Well, maybe Ernesto Zedillo. But he's a Mexican.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424615]The Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers issues are old news and Obama was already elected AFTER those issues had been brought to light so clearly, at least in the eyes of the voting US public, associating with those figures was not judged as conduct unbecoming of an aspiring POTUS. I tend to think that Romney's association with the Wall Street Masters of the Universe, the same guys who through their greed and riverboat gambling caused (in part) the current undesirable economic situation, will be much more damaging among Ohio and Florida working class voters who are underwater on their mortgages than Obama's past association with some obscure unimportant religious figures.[/QUOTE]As observed in your past responses, you once again changed the focus of your objections.
We weren't talking about whether the questionable conduct occurred before or after BO was elected, and we weren't talking about whether the public thought BO's questionable conduct was relevant. What we were talking about, at your initiation, was the acceptable conduct of anyone who aspired to be the POTUS, period.
[QUOTE=Jackson; 424618]As observed in your past responses, you once again changed the focus of your objections.
We weren't talking about whether the questionable conduct occurred before or after BO was elected, and we weren't talking about whether the public thought BO's questionable conduct was relevant. What we were talking about, at your initiation, was the acceptable conduct of anyone who aspired to be the POTUS, period.[/QUOTE]You are the one flagging BO's associations with Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers as "questionable conduct"; clearly the US voting public judged that BO's association with these figures was in fact NOT questionable conduct and NOT conduct unbecoming of an aspiring POTUS, as BO was comfortably elected even after your alleged "questionable conduct" of associating with these figures was brought to light and replay ad nauseum on Fox News. As BO is the current president, and his pre-electoral conduct has already been vetted and deemed acceptable by the voting US public, the only debate is really about whether Romney's (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes, hidden offshore accounts and participation in the IRS amnesty program will in fact be viewed as acceptable conduct by the US voting public, namely the working class voters in Ohio and Florida (who are the only ones who will decide this election).
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424619]the only debate is really about whether Romney's (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes, hidden offshore accounts and participation in the IRS amnesty program will in fact be viewed as acceptable conduct by the US voting public, namely the working class voters in Ohio and Florida (who are the only ones who will decide this election).[/QUOTE]I did a little looking on the internet. An account held by the Romneys at a Swiss bank was disclosed publicly in 2007 when he was running for president. The UBS / Voluntary Disclosure amnesty program wasn't until 2009. He disclosed the account 2 years before the amnesty program. So why would he publicly disclose the existence of the account to the public but not the IRS? That's nuts. It's very unlikely he had HIDDEN offshore accounts or knowingly participated in illegal tax schemes.
Let's call a spade a spade. What you wrote above are lies.
[QUOTE=Tiny12; 424620]I did a little looking on the internet. An account held by the Romneys at a Swiss bank was disclosed publicly in 2007 when he was running for president. The UBS / Voluntary Disclosure amnesty program wasn't until 2009. He disclosed the account 2 years before the amnesty program. So why would he publicly disclose the existence of the account to the public but not the IRS? That's nuts. It's very unlikely he had HIDDEN offshore accounts or knowingly participated in illegal tax schemes.
Let's call a spade a spade. What you wrote above are lies.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Romney's Swiss bank account was closed by his LAWYER in 2010, not coincidentally several months AFTER the initiation of the IRS amnesty program. You claim Romney's account was declared in his 2007 tax returns. Where are his 2007 tax returns? Oh I forgot, nobody has seen them because Romney refuses to release anything before 2010.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424623]Wrong. Romney's Swiss bank account was closed by his LAWYER in 2010, not coincidentally several months AFTER the initiation of the IRS amnesty program. You claim Romney's account was declared in his 2007 tax returns. Where are his 2007 tax returns? Oh I forgot, nobody has seen them because Romney refuses to release anything before 2010.[/QUOTE]Yep, and the Jews were behind 9/11. The United States government bio-engineered the AIDS virus to wipe out homosexuals and Africans. And Freemasons run the world.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424607]I have never stated or implied that having an offshore bank account is a crime; I have repeatedly stated that utilizing (now) illegal tax avoidance schemes and hiding money in offshore accounts is conduct unbecoming of someone aspiring to be POTUS; Romney has conducted himself along these lines for years. Obama has never been personally accused of welfare fraud, tax avoidance schemes, hiding money off shore, or any other potentially illegal or unbecoming activity. For all practical purposes, this election is a one on one between Romney and Obama and not any of the other people you mentioned so whatever they did or did not do is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]Stop stating things as fact, when you are way out of your depth. Every, repeat EVERY, private equity fund, venture capital fund and hedge fund, that has any foreign investors (and most that don't), have offshore entities and bank accounts. The entities are offshore for many reasons including the over-litigious nature of the US (thanks to no tort reform) and the prevention of taxes being withheld from the profits of foreign investors, who are supposed to be free from US taxes.
[quote=]Romney has conducted himself along these lines for years.[/quote]With all due respect, you are talking out your ass.