At 1400 pesos I cannot imagine many locals attend these clubs. I have never been to the clubs but are they frequented by gringos or portenos? IS there really the market to keep these clubs afloat?
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At 1400 pesos I cannot imagine many locals attend these clubs. I have never been to the clubs but are they frequented by gringos or portenos? IS there really the market to keep these clubs afloat?
[QUOTE=Mrropes;418853]At 1400 pesos I cannot imagine many locals attend these clubs. I have never been to the clubs but are they frequented by gringos or portenos? IS there really the market to keep these clubs afloat?[/QUOTE]The main customers in these Clubs, especially Hippo are filthy rich Argentines.
Fred.
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Well, it's always the question of preferences. If the idea is one hour sex, there is no discussion. With good preparation, one can always find better deals on the web. Although (and this is now for non-spanish speakers) this may no be easy. For me, the reason for visiting the places like Madahos is the `game' itself (some people may not like the game though) and also that one may find non-professional girls which may be more open to communication on a different level. This in my limited experience is different from independent girls who go through 4-5 men on daily basis. If I were living here, I would probably have a different point of view.
Otherwise, to respond to the other question regarding who really goes to these places. Indeed, people with a lot of money, but also many locals would attend only for visual pleasure and for chatting with good looking girls for free. For 180 pesos which nowdays is apparently not too much here. May be different from few years ago.
[QUOTE=RandomQuestion; 418852]I agree with Miami Bob. Not to disparage the club scene as some people like it. But I'm a newbie to BsAs and I hardly speak any Spanish but I've had two great experiences so far going the independent chica route and the most I've paid so far is $400. Granted, I'm new to the scene and may have gotten lucky.
I may go to Madahos just to check it out, as others have suggested, but 350 USD (total outlay) is a lot of money, for me at least.[/QUOTE]
I am going to go one night anyways. I can probably get in free, but I haven't been there in over a year. Last year I went only 3 times due to the poor quality of the chicas.
[QUOTE=Gato Hunter;418862]I am going to go one night anyways. I can probably get in free, but I haven't been there in over a year. Last year I went only 3 times due to the poor quality of the chicas.[/QUOTE]Amazingly enough, there was a blond with short hair there last week, which we both shared some time with about two years ago. I was amazed that she actually remembered me. All the same, just a bit heavier (both of us).
Otherwise, plenty of nice girls there. But let's how long they last. Another `detail' which they are apparently trying to enforce is that a girl is not allowed to talk with a potential client for more than 10 min without a copa. If they do, they could be thrown out. The most entertaining part is the explanation which the girls were given. That some clients may feel uncomfortable with telling a girl to go away. Right!
Blonde Paraguayan with a nice ass?
[QUOTE=Carpediem; 418876]Amazingly enough, there was a blond with short hair there last week, which we both shared some time with about two years ago. I was amazed that she actually remembered me. All the same, just a bit heavier (both of us).
Otherwise, plenty of nice girls there. But let's how long they last. Another `detail' which they are apparently trying to enforce is that a girl is not allowed to talk with a potential client for more than 10 min without a copa. If they do, they could be thrown out. The most entertaining part is the explanation which the girls were given. That some clients may feel uncomfortable with telling a girl to go away. Right![/QUOTE]I actually think this is not such a bad thing. I remember at a similar bar there finally having to ask one of the male bouncer / managers to tell a couple of ladies to leave me alone as they would not leave and were preventing me from talking to others. They were rude to any other lady that came by etc. Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
Pete
[QUOTE=Peter Sideburn; 418897]Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
Pete[/QUOTE]Pete,
There is a Place in Pattaya Thailand (The Beer Garden) that uses this same system.
They have beer mats (Coasters) that says 'looking' on one side (in green) and 'Just Chilling' on the other side in red.
Rather a good system!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Peter Sideburn; 418897]I actually think this is not such a bad thing. I remember at a similar bar there finally having to ask one of the male bouncer / managers to tell a couple of ladies to leave me alone as they would not leave and were preventing me from talking to others. They were rude to any other lady that came by etc. Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
Pete[/QUOTE]How about the green and red coasters like they do at Brazilian churrascarias? That probably wouldn't go over so well in Argentina, though.
I continue to believe that those who deride boliches like Madahos simply "don't get it." You can't compare them to privados. I've been to manyl privados and hate them all. I far prefer to get to know the chica over a few drinks, to look around a bunch before making my selection, and the whole "club scene." I understand that it's more expensive. But, that's what I'm paying for. I've never found a privado that comes even close.
That said, I was in Madaho's two nights about three weeks back. It was a bit depressing compared to years past. There were many new chicas, some good and some not so good. There were a fair number from the last time I was there a few years before that. I still knew most of the wait staff and bouncers. But, the whole place just seemed to be a bit down, as if some of the bloom has fallen off the rose.
I also spent a fair amount of time one night in Hippo. The owner comped us a bottle of vodka after we finished the first one. He clearly "gets it," and I would probably be inclined to spend more time there now. But, their setup is still just a bit uncomfortable. The gals there are pretty good, but there's also a bit more piranha in them. The last thing I want is sharp teeth in one of those places.
At any rate, my larger point is that the comparison between boliches and privados is a false one, in my opinion. If you just want to get your rocks off, or even if you've got a bunch of favoritas at a few privados that you want to go back to, then you are most definitely wasting your money at a place like Madahos. If you're trying to get laid for the cheapest price, then you're definitely wasting your time at any boliche. But, if you're comparing those two experiences on that basis, then I submit that you're missing the point. There's a reason why places like Madahos and Hippo are still in business, and still appear to be thriving, even if they are a bit down from past years. It's not because everyone in there is stupid, as some would have you believe. That's just sour grapes, in my opinion. It's because there are folks who want that experience.
To put it slightly different: If my only mongering choices were outcalls and privados, then I probably wouldn't monger. I understand that many people don't feel that way. That's fine. But, have a modicum of respect for those who don't appreciate all the finer points of outcalls and privados. Maybe, just maybe, there are different venues for different tastes. If you can direct me to a Madahos experience with just as many quality gals for sale, and just as convenient a location, at a cheaper price, then please do. But, if you send me to an apartment on Santa Fe or Junin, then you've missed the point. Just my two cents.
Great post Stan, we should hang out sometime.
I miss La Lopez, it was the great in between.
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[QUOTE=Stan the Man; 418909]How about the green and red coasters like they do at Brazilian churrascarias? That probably wouldn't go over so well in Argentina, though.
I continue to believe that those who deride boliches like Madahos simply "don't get it." You can't compare them to privados. I've been to manyl privados and hate them all. I far prefer to get to know the chica over a few drinks, to look around a bunch before making my selection, and the whole "club scene." I understand that it's more expensive. But, that's what I'm paying for. I've never found a privado that comes even close.
That said, I was in Madaho's two nights about three weeks back. It was a bit depressing compared to years past. There were many new chicas, some good and some not so good. There were a fair number from the last time I was there a few years before that. I still knew most of the wait staff and bouncers. But, the whole place just seemed to be a bit down, as if some of the bloom has fallen off the rose.
I also spent a fair amount of time one night in Hippo. The owner comped us a bottle of vodka after we finished the first one. He clearly "gets it," and I would probably be inclined to spend more time there now. But, their setup is still just a bit uncomfortable. The gals there are pretty good, but there's also a bit more piranha in them. The last thing I want is sharp teeth in one of those places.
At any rate, my larger point is that the comparison between boliches and privados is a false one, in my opinion. If you just want to get your rocks off, or even if you've got a bunch of favoritas at a few privados that you want to go back to, then you are most definitely wasting your money at a place like Madahos. If you're trying to get laid for the cheapest price, then you're definitely wasting your time at any boliche. But, if you're comparing those two experiences on that basis, then I submit that you're missing the point. There's a reason why places like Madahos and Hippo are still in business, and still appear to be thriving, even if they are a bit down from past years. It's not because everyone in there is stupid, as some would have you believe. That's just sour grapes, in my opinion. It's because there are folks who want that experience.
To put it slightly different: If my only mongering choices were outcalls and privados, then I probably wouldn't monger. I understand that many people don't feel that way. That's fine. But, have a modicum of respect for those who don't appreciate all the finer points of outcalls and privados. Maybe, just maybe, there are different venues for different tastes. If you can direct me to a Madahos experience with just as many quality gals for sale, and just as convenient a location, at a cheaper price, then please do. But, if you send me to an apartment on Santa Fe or Junin, then you've missed the point. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I agree, very good post. I may not have been to BA before, in a few weeks it will be my first, but been mongering (in many places around the world) enough to agree. I prefer to chit chat a bit with the chicas, to get a feel for them and to see what kind of chemistry or sparks we can create. Walk in, fuck and walk out is not my thing, unless I have had contact with the lady previously.
If someone wants to have a beer with an Argentinian noobie, feel free to let me know, in Madahos, Hippos or elsewhere.
I ended up at Madahos at the end of the night last night. When I arrived I dropped my guys name so I could get in free and get a table down front. The door men looked at me like I was nuts. After some explanation they told me that he fell over dead from a heart attack about two months ago. This was the old guy with the pony tail. I still got in free, but there were no tables down in front. Next time I can get a table no problem one of the other guys remembered me as did two waiters.
The place was full, the recent prices increases have not slowed this place down one bit. The quality of the chicas was a little disappointing, there were a few hot ones but they were few and far between. The dancers however have kicked it up a notch or two and there were some real stunners up on the poles.
I talked to a few girls, some that I knew for 6 years even. One of my favoritas from la lopez was trying really heard to get me to take her out, but I was not paying for a chica drink for her quality. Another favorita had the right idea, I gave her my address and she showed up around 4:30 and stayed for two hours.
Sorry to hear about Juan Carlos. He was always friendly to me in the club. RIP
As a newbie to the BA scene and after my fiirst and only visit to Madahos I can tell you how I feel about the place. In short I felt like a gringo ATM. Like "Stan the Man" I too love a party scene and I am willing to pay more for it. This is why I love the Termas scene in Rio and the German FKK Scene and the Carry out bars of Thailand. The problem with Madahos is the value is not there. In the Termas my entire nights drinks, one session with the girl (which includes outstanding GFE service) and all the kissing, dancing, and making out would come to 200 USD. 200 USD is what it cost me for just the Madahos hooker girl to come home with me. For the money I spent in Madahos + all the cab fare I could have paid my entry and been laid 3 times in a German Fkk. I love the party scene and I am willing to pay more fo the party scene but what is reasonable? These people obviously did not want my repeat business. Fuck them. I will say that the woman are hot there.
Below I have posted my review of Madahos. I posted this in another thread but I thought it would fit here. If you haven't already read this, feel free.
The bad – I walk in Madahos with a bottle of water. The bouncer is making a 'drink up' signal and whistling and saying in broken English 'drink up. ' He repeats himself 4 times (jackass). I ignore him and put my water her down. They want a 180 Peso cover. I pay the Gringo tax. 180 Pesos gets you a free drink and entrance to the club. This is not bad because a beer cost 120 Pesos or 30$ USD! There are hookers and dancers. The hookers want 300 USD$ to go home with you and you have to buy them a drink for 250$ Pesos. I am told that you can negotiate down to 150 USD. I talk to a nice looking Paraguan hooker with sexy jet black hair. If it weren't for her crooked teeth she would be a stunner. She can speak English and she offers me 200$ USD. I decline. I want to shop some more. I interview just about everyone I am interested in and make a few offers. I see a dancer who is flawless. As she is spinning on a pole I ask her 'Quanto custa? ' She answers 500$USD. No way!
Damn! I should have taken he Paraguan with black hair. Someone else scoops her up and she is led out the door. A little cutie Argentinean that I interviewed earlier who speaks no English comes to tell me through an interpreter that she accepts my offer of 200USD$. She is a fair skin loira. 21 year old 5'2' spinner cutie pie with small natural 'B' cups. She would be a real stunner but her eyes are a little too close together or something. Anyway, I buy her the rip-off drink for 250 AR pesos. She drinks half of it and she is off to change out of her sexy black minni-dress and into her respectable street clothes so she can come to my hotel with me. I look at her half a drink – a mimosa I think. The Bartender tries to take it away. 'Give me that' I say. ' That's 60$ Mimosa, ' and I suck it down and savor it. My cutie-pie comes back grabs me by the hand and says 'vamos? ' We hop in a cab outside the door. I notice the cabbie doesn't turn on the meter. We get to my hotel and the driver asks for 40 AR Pesos. This is about rip-off #4 for the night. I protest and tell him I have not paid more than 20 AR Pesos for a cab ride all week and the ride to the bar was 15 Pesos with tip. This does no good as he chooses to speak no English. The Gringo cash machine is not happy. I am about to draw a line in the sand. It's the fucking point! Cutie pie grabs the extra 20 Pesos from my hand and hands it over to the driver. We go in and register at the front desk and cutie-pie hands over her I. D. I can't wait to get her up in my room.
Time for rip-off # 5. I give her the 200USD up front. She inspects every bill by holding it up to the light while stretching it out. 'WTF, ' I am thinking. If I gave her a gold coin would she bite it? Perhaps she is not so innocent as she looks. She strips down to her g-string and little bra. She looks edible. But wait. There are rules. No DFK, no DATY. What? No DATY? This is my specialty. SP's love my DATY. Some have said 'Hungry this is crazy. I should be paying you. ' There would be no DATY on this baby girl tonight? She uses her right hand as a stiff arm like a Heisman trophy winner as I struggle to get as close to her pussy as I can. Instead she masturbates and then provides a CBJ. I fuck her missionary and I love her teenage girl like spinner body. I cum buckets. We lay for a few minutes. No talking. What's the point. Not a fucking word of English from her and Eu nao falo Espanhol for me. We are 20-30 minutes into the date and she is ready to leave. I need to give her some feedback. I need to provide some constructive criticism because she is young and has some potential I believe. I log into Babbelfish and start a conversation. I tell her I am disappointed with the service. She tells me she has to go to the bowling alley (It is 5AM). Then she starts to put the minni-bar in her hand bag. First the chocolate, than the Pringles, than champagne. I grab her arm. And I say 'uno. ' I grab the champagne and the Pringles and let her have the chocolate. I grab her gently by the arm and walk her to the door. I am about to kick my 30 minute 200USD$ investment out of my room. She stops me and says 'Change for Taxi? Change? ' (Ahh she can speak some English.) I give her 10 AR but she wants more. 'Change, ' she says. I give her another 10 Pesos and say goodbye. What a lousy lay. This was "the bad" and Madahos is a rip-off. Steer clear.