Black

[QUOTE=Hunt99]While this is true for our resident posters, it isn't true for many visitors. Spending US$200 on a chick from Black is pocket change when you figure you have a week's time and have spent US$1000 on a plane ticket, a US$200 on a hotel room, et cetera.[/QUOTE]I agree, but there are 2 points to highlight.

1) It is worthwhile to consider the opinions of both local (argentinos and foreigners) and visitors.

2) It is VERY rare that a monger staying more than a week will get his chica supply solely from Black. This establishment may be among the best regarding average chica looks, but mongering (as many mentioned) involves also traits such as attitude and "freshness", and some people may get tired of the "professionalism" at Black.

That's why I stress the point that it is necessary for the whole mongering "community" to not spend too much in general, at least not beyond the "tourist traps".

For those who rarely go beyond Black or Madahos, it's not that terrible for the rest of us to pay whatever amount that person intends to. However, it won't be nice if, stopping once by Exedra (to give an example) the high spending monger sees an outstanding semi-pro (something that happens often) and starts offering ridiculous prices, returning several times to repeat that behavior.

Andres

Andres, how is it going! Are you back in town or still on the lam?

Anyhow. It is amazing that some guys have so much to offer; money, looks, power, etc it is a wonder why they pay for sex! You would think these girls would be falling all over themselves for a shot at the big time. Charge us slobs extra and give it up for the opportunity to catch the big fish!

Back to the coal mines. Dog out.

Still on the lam, Thomaso.

I guess that guys who brag about how much they spend or how many corporations they owe are shooting themselves on their feet. It doesn't add anything to the debate.

Cheers,

Andres.

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Andres, how is it going! Are you back in town or still on the lam?

Anyhow. It is amazing that some guys have so much to offer; money, looks, power, etc it is a wonder why they pay for sex! You would think these girls would be falling all over themselves for a shot at the big time. Charge us slobs extra and give it up for the opportunity to catch the big fish!

Back to the coal mines. Dog out.[/QUOTE]

Quite simple. I pay for model types for the sheer "no strings attached" convenience. The same reason why I would go to a tourist trap like Blacks (or any other place having higher quality & justifiably more expensive girl than the norm) for convenience. The higher price is what I pay for my own convenience (and if I feel the girl is worth it in MY eyes) I don't enjoy spending half a night "hunting" around like I suppose a true "monger" would. I suppose you can call that lazy as Diggler mentioned. I have no rebutal to that. It's symantics. I prefer to look at it as convenience. I have a girlfriend. She understands me and my tendencies. We go to swinger clubs. Etc etc. But I also like variety - for pure physical gratification. I am not looking to get emotionally attached to anyone. I already have that. Hence, paying for sex and making it a purely business relationship is my way of dealing with that situation. Some would point this out as a form of sexual addiction. I have no problem with that. It is what it is.

As far as commenting on money, etc. It was merely tossed out there either to clarify where I'm coming from or for comparison, not for bragging. There is a sense of value in different things for different people. Personally, I don't have much to brag about when compared to some here (or otherwise) who have nice families, beautiful kids, etc. I have all the money and material wealth any one person could possibly need. But I would not consider myself half as fortunate as a poor underpaid Argentine who has found his eternal happiness in his love for family, friends and the great memories he will share with all of them. I see that all the time when I visit down there. It's why I keep going back and have my home there. It's a different culture and allows me to escape for a while. If one were to keep score on material things. I'm certain I could hang in there with most. (realizing that no mater what one has there is ALWAYS others with more) yet if the score were based on genuine fulfilling enrichment in life. That would be a whole different story.

As for why I post? Well. A few things struck enough of a chord for me to post. I found this site by accident and quite honestly enjoy reading the stories and the spirited discussions. I tend to look at the pictures, but not as much as one might think. Porn never really did anythin for me. I'd rather just go pay an entrance fee and see and touch the real thing. I also enjoythe reviews of places. There are in fact a few I will be looking into next week while I'm there.

Thomas. I'm not from old money. But though I devoted a lot of time (hence never married) to my career when I was younger. I wish I could do a few things over again. Nonetheless. Hard work, good fortune and opportunity got me to where I am (I sold my Internet company just before the bubble burst. Now THAT was good fortune) Unfortunately, once I "made" it, I found everything had passed me by and some things are just not that easy to relive.:)

Moore. Enough of the attacks. You're the only respondent that seems to rely on responses with no real substance other than ridicule in attempting to make your points. If I posted anything you may have taken as a direct attack on you, I apologize. Reading back, the only post I could consider as such was when I mentioned you would stick your dick in anything, but that was meant as nothing more than a barb at you when you indicated that you would charge the same to screw Kim Bassinger or an old lady (a fact that I still question - but to each their own)

Andre... I don't own coporations.. I do some consulting, a little bit of teaching at a university for fun - other than that, I'm retired (don't think I'm too far over the hill thouhg - I'm only 42). Not really much to brag about. My point in throwing out the money aspect is nothing more than to establish where I'm coming from when it comes to my sense of what $200 means to me in the course of the discussion. This makes a big difference in perspectives because I felt that if readers didn't know that then when we talk about a USD$200 girl.... she may be expensive and not worth it to someone who needs the money versus not being significant to one that has the money. Perspectives would be different and would change the scope of the discussion.

[QUOTE=Justmoi]Reading back, the only post I could consider as such was when I mentioned you would stick your dick in anything, but that was meant as nothing more than a barb at you when you indicated that you would charge the same to screw Kim Bassinger or an old lady (a fact that I still question - but to each their own) [/QUOTE]Kim Basinger is an ancient old lady. Thus if I had to screw her, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan or any other old hag it would be with the same level of enthusiasm (subzero)

Just-you,

Nobody cares if you fly first class.

Nobody cares if you have houses in Argentina.

Nobydy cares if you have houses in California.

Nobody cares if you do consulting.

Nobody cares if you teach at a university.

Nobydy cares if you are retired at 42.

We read this board for the chicas. Could you post relevant information like chica reports, performance reviews, post pictures, etc.

This board is for the exchanging of information of the Argentina scene, not about you and how much you "help revigorating the Argentina economy."

DWC

You cared enough to post. Otherwise, this thread would have eventually faded into oblivion. Thank you for keeping the discussion alive!

Here's a relevant chica fact then, if it will keep you interested. They really really dig you. No really. They do. They genuinely want to be with you. They told me. Go get 'em tiger! Tell 'em you read it here!

Oh, and don't forget your little change purse! Ya gotta pay them ya know! Of course. You may have to forgoe lunch for the next couple of days, but that;s ok, right? You need to lose a few pounds anyway. Right? :)

Moore,

Sorry, I forgot how highly selective you are when it comes to women.

Just-you,

Nobody cares If girls dig me.

Nobody cares if I need to lose weight.

Again, you are talking non-sense. Write a chica report,

Post pictures, review hotels, whatever. Or just don't write at all.

DWC

[QUOTE=Andres]I agree, but there are 2 points to highlight.

1) It is worthwhile to consider the opinions of both local (argentinos and foreigners) and visitors.

2) It is VERY rare that a monger staying more than a week will get his chica supply solely from Black. This establishment may be among the best regarding average chica looks, but mongering (as many mentioned) involves also traits such as attitude and "freshness", and some people may get tired of the "professionalism" at Black.

That's why I stress the point that it is necessary for the whole mongering "community" to not spend too much in general, at least not beyond the "tourist traps".

For those who rarely go beyond Black or Madahos, it's not that terrible for the rest of us to pay whatever amount that person intends to. However, it won't be nice if, stopping once by Exedra (to give an example) the high spending monger sees an outstanding semi-pro (something that happens often) and starts offering ridiculous prices, returning several times to repeat that behavior.

Andres[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with almost everything you write, Andres. There's certainly a "learning curve" that all new visitors travel on. The great variety of boliches, clubs, apartments, coffee shops, et cetera is a big part of the charm of Buenos Aires. Personally, I rarely take a chica out of Black, but I am sure to visit the place at least once on every trip.

One thing we disagree on, however, is the belief that "big spending" foreigners spoil the chica economy for BsAs residents. Foreigners aren't the only people capable of overpaying for services - the "small head" does the thinking for many Portenos too. Every local guy is not the expert on negotiating and paying that you are.

[QUOTE=Justmoi]Andre. I don't own coporations. I do some consulting, a little bit of teaching at a university for fun - other than that, I'm retired (don't think I'm too far over the hill thouhg - I'm only 42) Not really much to brag about. My point in throwing out the money aspect is nothing more than to establish where I'm coming from when it comes to my sense of what $200 means to me in the course of the discussion. This makes a big difference in perspectives because I felt that if readers didn't know that then when we talk about a USD$200 girl. She may be expensive and not worth it to someone who needs the money versus not being significant to one that has the money. Perspectives would be different and would change the scope of the discussion.[/QUOTE]When I wrote about corporations, I was referring to a famous monger of WSG / AP (a guy who provides a lot of good info but who can't help himself in self-promoting) not to you.

Andres

Dances,

You do have a point. Considering this forum is supposed to be about Blacks (and applicable reports thereto) I realize that we have gone beyond its intent. It's easy to get involved with tangents sometimes. I suppose the current topic has now run its due course anyway.

And deep down inside. Yes. We all know you care! LOL!

Guys,

Just quit responding to Justmoi and he will cease to exist here.

Or if you are a single white male seeking a single white male just PM him. Not sure if hes seeking a top or a bottom though.

He sound like a good catch - charming, professional consultant and parttime professor, swings occasionally, interesting hobbies, enjoys good restaurants and travelling 1st class, self-made and partially retired (at 42 noless) and in search of eternal happiness and cultural enrichment.

Thank you Moore for keeping the thread going. If you would have actually absorbed what you read you would have seen I would have just let it die. But since you obviously have remedial reading skills, it's apparent I was reaching.

Thank you for taking such an interest in me too! Your post makes me wonder if you are really that infactuated with me that you actually remembered all those points or if you are so obsessed that you had to go back and reread all theposts to compile them.

Either way. At least I have a nice personal ad to post on Match. Com now. You should make it a side business and earn a few more pesos. This way you won't feel it so hard when you pay the entrance fees at the clubs you frequent (well, unless you like to feel it hard). :)

Hey guys,

I think justmoi has a 2 inch dick. That's probably why he has to over pay at Blacks so they don't laugh in his face.

Now you see. Bringing up something nonsensible as that is nothing more than a reflection of your own insecurities. You can read about that in any psychology journal. I've taken most of the barbs here as just that - barbs - regardless if they were intended with malice in mind or not. Many were quite whimsical and creative. Your response has such little thinking and creativity behind it that it permiates you being nothing more than just a poor little man trying to jump on a bandwagon that's already left you far behind. Tsk tsk.

You see Moore, et. all. As much as you try to kill this thing with silence. Boneheads like Cowpie (such a fitting handle too - congrats)! Will continue to reinvigorate it. LOL!