Airlines

I recently bought a ticket to BA on Delta. ATL to BA was 1150 on delta. LAX to BA via ATL was 678 only. Same flight.

[QUOTE=Donsat]I recently bought a ticket to BA on delta. ATL to BA was 1150 on delta. LAX to BA via ATL was 678 only. Same flight.[/QUOTE]Yes, competition is great. I think we'll see a 10-20% reduction on some of the high fares ($800+) once CO starts flying in.

I flew the same LAX-ATL-EZE for $389 or $399 on DL in late April. Not my favorite choice, but it's hard to beat the fare. If you don't look at any of the travel forums, I'd recommend setting up a Travelocity.com account, and setting it so that it will email you when the rates drop below a certain point. Most of the super-duper fares last a few days at the most.

I could be mistaken, I'll check and edit if I am, Travelosity is one of the few internet travel agency's that give you a ticket with the fare value on the ticket. So you would avoid the problems I mentioned before with priceline. Not 100% sure but pretty sure, it's either travelocity or cheaptickets. Com.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]I could be mistaken, I'll check and edit if I am, Travelosity is one of the few internet travel agency's that give you a ticket with the fare value on the ticket. So you would avoid the problems I mentioned before with priceline. Not 100% sure but pretty sure, it's either travelocity or cheaptickets. Com.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about discount tickets? Travelocity has some $ of coupons sometimes, but not in the line of Site59 or Priceline / Hotwire. All their tickets that I've bought from them always show the pricing in the reservation.

JC what I'm talking about is a fare value associated with the ticket. In the priceline TICKET, not on the web site when the price is quoted, but the actual ticket that is issued. Regardless if the ticket is paper or electronic on the lower left there will be what is called the "fare ladder" this is where fare, and taxes are shown seperatly adding up to the total price of the ticket. On a piceline ticket it will look something like this.

Fare BULK.

X tax $22.50

Why tax $23.20

Blah blah blah, a ticket like this is not subject to IATA rule number 720 D (I think thats the number, I don't work the ticket counter much anymore) which is the agreement between IATA airline members to accept each others passengers based on available space during irregular operations. The airline that accepts you agrees to fly you for the face value of your ticket. A priceline ticket has no face value so no other airline has to accept you unless your original airline is willing to reissue the ticket. Then the original airline pays the full fare for the class of service you fly in. This is part of the small print nobody reads on pricelines web site when they buy the ticket.

What you need is this.

Fare $780.00

Xtax $22.50

Ytax blah.

Total fare blah.

Travelocity I believe has a fare value on the ticket I forgot to check at work today so I can't say for sure. You can also run into this problem with some live travel agency's as well.

Most times it's not an issue so I'm not saying NEVER do it. I'm saying be aware that if you purchase a ticket from them and your flight gets fucked up while they are moving other people to another airline you may be stuck. I see it happen every single time ORD or IAD go down due to storms.

I don't know why people use Hotwire or Priceline for airline tickets. I did it once or twice and luckily didn't have any problems. However, no frequent flyer miles, and as you have pointed out, in occassion of irregular ops, you're often SOL.

As for the endorsable ticket, I think you're referring to Rule 240. At least that's what has been written on my ticket when I've had to change airlines during weather or equipment problems.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]JC what I'm talking about is a fare value associated with the ticket. In the priceline TICKET, not on the web site when the price is quoted, but the actual ticket that is issued. Regardless if the ticket is paper or electronic on the lower left there will be what is called the "fare ladder" this is where fare, and taxes are shown seperatly adding up to the total price of the ticket. On a piceline ticket it will look something like this.

Fare BULK.

X tax $22.50

Why tax $23.20

Blah blah blah, a ticket like this is not subject to IATA rule number 720 D (I think thats the number, I don't work the ticket counter much anymore) which is the agreement between IATA airline members to accept each others passengers based on available space during irregular operations. The airline that accepts you agrees to fly you for the face value of your ticket. A priceline ticket has no face value so no other airline has to accept you unless your original airline is willing to reissue the ticket. Then the original airline pays the full fare for the class of service you fly in. This is part of the small print nobody reads on pricelines web site when they buy the ticket.

What you need is this.

Fare $780.00

Xtax $22.50

Ytax blah.

Total fare blah.

Travelocity I believe has a fare value on the ticket I forgot to check at work today so I can't say for sure. You can also run into this problem with some live travel agency's as well.

Most times it's not an issue so I'm not saying NEVER do it. I'm saying be aware that if you purchase a ticket from them and your flight gets fucked up while they are moving other people to another airline you may be stuck. I see it happen every single time ORD or IAD go down due to storms.[/QUOTE]Question how can you tell when booking on line what type of ticket you are getting? I have recently booked through Obitz, and there is a dollar amount in the "fare ladder". However I have used other websites in the past and I don't know if they had a dollar amount or if they were bulk, but I did get skymiles from Delta. Is there a way to tell before you book?

Thanks for the info.

If you're using a normal travel search engine (Orbitz, Travelocity, Expedia) you should be fine. When you get tickets via Priceline, Hotwire or a consolidator, you may not get miles, and may have problems if you have to reschedule.

I would imagine there maybe something in the "terms and conditions" however I don't know. Now that I think of it I think it is Orbitz not Travelosity that has a fare value. Works been crazy and I keep forgetting to go through tickets and look.

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Priceline does not.

Check in terms and conditions and see if it says anything about rebooking, resceduling, it may mention 725D or 120 explicitly. I have no experiance buying tickets from them so I don't know. I would be willing to bet if it says you can't earn miles it has no fare but I could be wrong about this as well.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]I would imagine there maybe something in the "terms and conditions" however I don't know. Now that I think of it I think it is Orbitz not Travelosity that has a fare value. Works been crazy and I keep forgetting to go through tickets and look.

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Priceline does not.

Check in terms and conditions and see if it says anything about rebooking, resceduling, it may mention 725D or 120 explicitly. I have no experiance buying tickets from them so I don't know. I would be willing to bet if it says you can't earn miles it has no fare but I could be wrong about this as well.[/QUOTE]Daddy Rulz,

I am not busting your balls when I say that this particular post belongs to WSG Archive classic. I still can not stop laughing. Except for the Priceline comment, every sentence, especially the last one, starts with a pure conviction and ends with a full surrender. Don't get too much riled up on this. If you have a sense of humor you should find your post really amusing. Thanks for making my Friday.

Bandy

"Check in terms and conditions and see if it says anything about rebooking, resceduling, it may mention 725D or 120 explicitly. I have no experiance buying tickets from them so I don't know. I would be willing to bet if it says you can't earn miles it has no fare but I could be wrong about this as well."

BECAUSE I don't know I told him to check. I told him this because he asked me a question I was not CERTAIN of the answer to. I don't see how "check in the terms and conditions" qualifies as pure conviction. Something like "If you look in the terms and conditions you will see that" would be an example of, as you say, pure conviction.

The first section started out:

"I would imagine there maybe something in the "terms and conditions" however I don't know."

Now THAT is a bold statement, full of conviction I must say. It's the kind of thing I say when I'm making an educated guess you numb nuts.

Here is a declarative statement. "Brandy, your a fine girl fine, what a good cell b1tch you would make." Or maybe "Bandy you jumped my ass in another section of this forum because you didn't like something I said there. Now your making Rovian statements here in a pitiful attempt to make me look like I'm flip flopping. Do you stay awake at night thinking of these things?

Just curious, were you wearing your Grandma's panties and smearing peanut butter on your wee wee while you were laughing?

I confered with a co-worker today about internet tickets. We had no large stack of them to check, it's amazing how few paper tickets you see anymore. She used to work at the international rate desk in ORD and has forgotten more about ticketing than I will ever know. It was her OPINION (note the word opinion brandy) and her RECOLECTION (note that one as well) that both Travelocity and Orbitz generaly have fare value. Orbitz all the time and travelocity most of the time.

Disclamer for my b1tch brandy. Neither of us are CERTAIN about this, it is our considered opinion lacking the ability to PROVE with real data. I BELIEVE we are correct but I can not SWEAR I am.

In the end, I do not know how to make certain you will get the kind of ticket that allows movement when you purchase from a re-seller such as these. However I am not saying you should not buy them. The reason I broached this subject was in order to warn you guys that sometimes you can get fucked at the airport instead of getting fucked at Tres Sargentos. I feel I have raised awareness of this issue and have made a contribution. I have not stated anything I don't know is fact, and when I wasn't sure I mentioned that. Use my advice if you care to. PM me if you have any questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

I am making my first trip to BA during the last week of August. I purchased my ticket through Expedia (like I have on many trips) and havent really had any problems. I am the type of person who likes to pick the times I want to fly, the airline and the type of planes which to me makes a big difference. This time I got an email from Expedia saying my flight has changed. Right then this bummed me out because my original flight was LAX-ORD-EZE, now it was changed to LAX-IAD-EZE. No big to some but it just makes for a longer flight. United changed the time and flight info. So I called Expedia and they where cool on the phone. I told them the new flight wasnt what I wanted and I had researched something new through IAD and asked for a change. Expedia put me on hold, called up United and within 5 minutes my request was granted, no charge at all.

After reading the last week of posts I feel kinda of lucky to not get bumped off the flight to BA to begin with. Guess luck is on my side. Hope it goes the same when I arrive! Thanks for all the great info on this site.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]Just curious, were you wearing your Grandma's panties and smearing peanut butter on your wee wee while you were laughing?[/QUOTE]Rosa Maria does not like being called Grandma.:)

We can build up our own little data base.

Triple Input, if you have recieved a paper ticket do you have a fare value on the lower left? You guys can look at your tickets and answer Punters question.

JC your right. If you tell are M I said that I'll have to turn you into a Soprano and I don't mean like Tony.