Spanish Phrases

Then you have words like "el azucar" (the sugar) that is masculine, but when standing alone, it is often used with feminine adjectives, as in "azucar blanca" (white sugar) The same with "el mar" (the sea) it becomes feminine in some nautical or weather usage, such as "en mar alta" (on the high seas) And of course in Spain the frying pan is masculine, "el sartén" and in much of latin america it's feminine, "la sartén". The word "la treponema" (a type of bacteria) is feminine in the dictionary, but all doctors use the masculine article, "el treponema", because it ends in "a", like "el problema". My favorite that seems to confuse many is, "el arte" (the art, masculine singular) but it's feminine in the plural, "las artes" (the arts) as in "las bellas artes".

The one that always confuses me is the feminine word for salt, "la sal". I always want to say "el sal", because in my mother tongue, the italian, the word for salt is masculine, "il sale".

No wonder frying pan messes me up so much! Seems like I get corrected no matter whether I use "la" or "el." So that one is like "radio." It varies geographically. I used to have trouble with "sal" until I moved here and saw the modifying adjectives like "sal gruesa" (coarse salt used to rub on meat for parrillas or asados) or "sal entrefina" (medium coarse).

What I learned about "arte" was that it was masculine unless modified by an adjective: los artes, las bellas artes. I did not know it is related to plural vs. Singular. I could be wrong on this since it was from the same class where the notes (actually copied from some textbook; that professor did not require us to buy a textbook and scoffed at the idea of copyrights) said "mano" was the [b]only[/b] feminine noun ending in "o." That class was funny as hell because the teacher's name was Conchita. Actually it was spelled Conxita because she was Catalan (that was her first language) I had already been to Argentina a couple of times and another student had been living in Uruguay and we could not stop snickering every time she said her name. The last day of class she brought wine and the dean saw her bringing it in and would not let her do it. She could not fathom this. Diferencias culturales. She was cute, too (but not a very good teacher).

A lot of adjectives that end in -ma are masculine: problema, tema, idioma, sistema, programa, etc. I have been told that these all come from Greek but I don't know why that makes them masculine.

One helpful hint is that adjectives that end in -cion are (always?) feminine. There should be an accent on that "o" but I can't make it happen in Linux. I think -mbre is the same, except that might be overruled if it is a compound noun.

Some words are masculine or feminine depending on the meaning.

La capital (capital city) versus el capital (equity of a business).

Or just the article changes but not the meaning.

La testigo (female witness) versus el testigo (male witness).

Some "moore" examples:

El papa = the pope.
La papa = potatos.

El cura = priest.
La cura = cure.

A strange one:

El policia (should have an accent on the "i") is a male cop, but la policia could either be a female cop or just cops in general (the police force)

And nouns of profession ending in -ista such as periodista and dentista take the article of the gender of the professional: La dentista is a female dentist and el dentista is a male dentist.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]No wonder frying pan messes me up so much! Seems like I get corrected no matter whether I use "la" or "el." So that one is like "radio." It varies geographically. I used to have trouble with "sal" until I moved here and saw the modifying adjectives like "sal gruesa" (coarse salt used to rub on meat for parrillas or asados) or "sal entrefina" (medium coarse)[/QUOTE]Caution: I am a Spanish (from Spain) speaker; maybe some of the things I am about to write are not 100% applicable to Argentine Spanish.

"El radio" = "radius" (of a circle); "la radio" = "a radio receptor". "sal" is both masculine and feminine, same as a "mar".

[QUOTE=Dickhead]What I learned about "arte" was that it was masculine unless modified by an adjective: los artes, las bellas artes. I did not know it is related to plural vs. Singular. I could be wrong on this since it was from the same class where the notes (actually copied from some textbook; that professor did not require us to buy a textbook and scoffed at the idea of copyrights) said "mano" was the [b]only[/b] feminine noun ending in "o." That class was funny as hell because the teacher's name was Conchita. Actually it was spelled Conxita because she was Catalan (that was her first language) I had already been to Argentina a couple of times and another student had been living in Uruguay and we could not stop snickering every time she said her name. The last day of class she brought wine and the dean saw her bringing it in and would not let her do it. She could not fathom this. Diferencias culturales. She was cute, too (but not a very good teacher)[/QUOTE]"artes" is always femenine. However, we say "el arte" because "la arte" would place two "a" following each other, with the second having a stress which makes it hard to pronounce correctly (thing of "a arm" vs. "an arm")

She may be right with the "mano" thing: I could not find any counterexample.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]A lot of adjectives that end in -ma are masculine: problema, tema, idioma, sistema, programa, etc. I have been told that these all come from Greek but I don't know why that makes them masculine. [/QUOTE]Uh. Those are not adjectives, but nouns. But yes, I could not think of any usual feminine word ending in -ma (except for "mama", "miasma", "ama", "sima", "cima", "fama", "cama", "dama", "mema".

[QUOTE=Dickhead]One helpful hint is that adjectives that end in -cion are (always? Feminine. There should be an accent on that "o" but I can't make it happen in Linux. I think -mbre is the same, except that might be overruled if it is a compound noun.[/QUOTE]Linux thing: difficult to say without looking at your setup, but here's a try: switch the keyboard to US International (using one of the applets you can usually add to a side panel); then ' followed by a would give you á. If your keyboard has an AltGr key, pressing a + AltGr (both at the same time) gives you á as well.

[QUOTE=Aqualung]Keep in mind that for nouns beginning with A or HA though feminine the masculin article EL is used. For example "AGUA" - So it's EL AGUA. The noun is still feminine so its El agua fríA. This is because lA Agua would sound rather awkward. Or hacha (axe) which would be el hacha filosa (the sharp axe)[/QUOTE]Only if the first "a" is stressed. E. G. "la acción".

"Uh. Those are not adjectives, but nouns. But yes, I could not think of any usual feminine word ending in -ma (except for "mama", "miasma", "ama", "sima", "cima", "fama", "cama", "dama", "mema"."

Yes. Fuck me. I meant nouns (sustantivos) not adjectives. Duh. I did figure out how to get accent marks on Linux but then the hard drive failed only two weeks after I got the fucking thing. So fuck me again, even harder.

Thanks. I have studied Spanish for years and I communicate okay but I don't want to talk like a pelotudo.

First off I don't know if this is even possible. It may be a culture thing, or a way of doing business.

Is there a spanish phase for when you go into a privado so they give you the lineup all at once vs. one chica at a time?

I went to Esmerelda 517 tonight and they threw 8 chicas at me. I ended up doing number 2 because I forgot number 1's name.

[QUOTE=Gato Hunter]First off I don't know if this is even possible. It may be a culture thing, or a way of doing business.

Is there a spanish phase for when you go into a privado so they give you the lineup all at once vs. One chica at a time?

I went to Esmerelda 517 tonight and they threw 8 chicas at me. I ended up doing number 2 because I forgot number 1's name.[/QUOTE]Take notes as they pass in review.

"Quiero ver todas juntas" should work, or "Prefiero ver todas las chica al mismo tiempo."

In Larrea (don't remember if this is Cielo Private, if is not it's something similar) they line-up all together. If you pre-pay, (once you are sure you are at least interested in one girl) you may also request they get naked like to refine your selection. Cheaper private apartments are sometimes so dark that it doesn't matter who you choose. You'll always fuck it up, as you can get only 2 variables (tits and height). So it's better you also request "la luz por favor" (turn lights on, or opening the courtains).

I did a search for this phrase but couldn't find an answer.

What is "garatan profunda"

If I were to translate it would mean "Deep Guarantee" or Guaranteed Deep"

[QUOTE=David Smash]I did a search for this phrase but couldn't find an answer.

What is "garatan profunda"

If I were to translate it would mean "Deep Guarantee" or Guaranteed Deep"[/QUOTE]Sounds like "garganta profunda" - and that would be deep throat

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[QUOTE=Ba4994]Hey guys, I couldn't believe it but I actually stumbled across a web site called "learn Spanish get laid". I decided to buy the audio mp3 and was pleasantly surprised that it teaches things like negotiating price for chicas, things you need to know and say in strip clubs, talking to girls and how to find girls, I usually don't post these type of things but it was exactly what I was looking for, I'll bet many guys would appreciate learning basic Spanish specifically for mongering, incredible!

[url]www.learnspanishgetlaid.com[/url][/QUOTE]Are you sure, you are not the owner of the website?

"Para evitar el aborto, coger por el orto."

Courtesy of my barber.

[QUOTE=Ba4994]Hey guys, I couldn't believe it but I actually stumbled across a web site called "learn Spanish get laid". I decided to buy the audio mp3 and was pleasantly surprised that it teaches things like negotiating price for chicas, things you need to know and say in strip clubs, talking to girls and how to find girls, I usually don't post these type of things but it was exactly what I was looking for, I'll bet many guys would appreciate learning basic Spanish specifically for mongering, incredible!

[url]www.learnspanishgetlaid.com[/url][/QUOTE]Hey shithead, I looked up your posting history and you have two identical shill posts for two different places. To quote a famous board member:

"Cock Sucker."

A knowledge of Spanish for mongering in Central America or any other Latin American countries would be absolutely worthless in Argentina.

Oh, and to second DH's comment. Double cocksucker!

Yeah, I think I will go into a boliche in Mexico (that word doesn't exist there) and start talking about ojete and poneme en cuatro and garching and see where that gets me.

Well, the word boliche probably exists, but it either means a dancing place or a bowling alley (lol)

You know, the only people I've heard use the term boliche to mean a place to go pick up p4p chicas here are the mongers I know, with a few exceptions. Many of the girls I know who work call them cabarets. I've heard local Argentinos talk about boliches, and at first I was quite surprised that they were talking about boliches because we were in mixed company, but it was explained to me that a boliche is place to go listen to music and dance.

Also, I saw a show the other day that was not Argentino, but somewhere else (I don't know where) who were talking about sex and talking about "hazlo en cuatro." It actually wasn't porn, it was a panel discussion of some sort and at the time, they were discussing sex. I didn't stay there to see what the actual theme of the show was. But they weren't talking with an Argentino accent.

Boliche is used quite loosely. All the way from any kind of shop to a disco to a night club. The two most common uses is for a small bar usually in neighbourhoods where neighbours get together for a coffee and the other common use is for a disco.

So when boliche is used for the night clubs it's just a generic word for place where drinks are served and can be use in front of anyone as it has no direct implication of prostitution.

Some of the words mostly used by local mongers is peringundín, cabaruti, quilombo, puterío or puti club when wanting to be more specific.

The chicas prefer to use cabaret. A cabaret used to be a place to go for a strip show and to chat with the girls - These girls would not have physical contact with the clients, just talk and a drink. These girls were called alternadoras or coperas and you'll find today many of the chicas call themselves alternadoras or coperas and not prostitutas (sounds nicer! This is where the "copa" system comes from (chica drinks)

Keep in mind that if you want to ask a girl anything related to her profession like for example "how long have you worked as a prostitute?" use "copera" and not puta - "¿Cuanto hace que sos copera?" It's more polite to them!

Of course, this only goes for chicas working at the clubs. At privados they would be "masajistas". In both cases they would not want to be confused with "putas callejeras" who they consider well below them!

"Keep in mind that if you want to ask a girl anything related to her profession"

And you would want to do this because?

El Queso, how much time have you spent in Mexico?

[QUOTE=Dickhead]El Queso, how much time have you spent in Mexico?[/QUOTE]A few weeks across the border here and there, certainly not enough to be any kind of expert. Of course, lived in Texas for 30 years and know a few Mexicans.

I was commenting about the word boliche because one day I was searching for bowling alleys here in BA and Google had translated "bowling" to boliche. I'd always wondered where the usage for puterias came in for that word.

[QUOTE=El Queso]A few weeks across the border here and there, certainly not enough to be any kind of expert. Of course, lived in Texas for 30 years and know a few Mexicans.

I was commenting about the word boliche because one day I was searching for bowling alleys here in BA and Google had translated "bowling" to boliche. I'd always wondered where the usage for puterias came in for that word.[/QUOTE]If you are outside of BsAs Boliche is a disco. (dance bar) I was in Resistencia and asked my Remisero to take me to a boliche. When we got there I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Nothing but FINE young trim, but when I started talking to them I could tell right off I wasn't in the Chaco equivalent of Cattos so I went outside to confer with the Remisero. He told me that in Chaco what we call a boliche is a cabaret. Talking to friends from BsAs boliche is by no means universally understood as a place where working girls hang out.

My understanding, and I could be in error as I don't remember the source of this knowledge, boliche was the word that Roxanna used and through Jax became accepted on this board as meaning a place like Catto, Hook, Madaho, etc.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]If you are outside of BsAs Boliche is a disco. (dance bar) I was in Resistencia and asked my Remisero to take me to a boliche. When we got there I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Nothing but FINE young trim, but when I started talking to them I could tell right off I wasn't in the Chaco equivalent of Cattos so I went outside to confer with the Remisero. He told me that in Chaco a boliche is a cabaret. Talking to friends from BsAs boliche is by no means universally understood as a place where working girls hang out.

My understanding, and I could be in error as I don't remember the source of this knowledge, boliche was the word that Roxanna used and through Jax became accepted on this board as meaning a place like Catto, Hook, Madaho, etc.[/QUOTE]Hey Daddy - Not only outside of BA but anywhere in the country - As I mention a few posts down there are two popular meanings for boliche - One is any kind of bar and second is a disco. Though to be more specific when wanting to mean a disco it's common to say boliche bailable.

For those interested in Buenos Aires slang (Lunfardo) the following is a dictionary put together by an acquaintance of mine:

[url]http://www.todotango.com/SPANISH/biblioteca/lexicon/lexicon.html[/url]

My dictionary translates "boliche" as.

1) Jack, like a car jack to change a tire.

2) Ten-pin bowling alley.

3) Small store.

But I remember exactly when I first heard the word. It was on my first trip to BA and I had an SW named Karen in my room and she was telling me that she never turned her boyfriend down for sex because if she did, he would go straight to the boliche. I don't think she meant he planned to go dancing, but I did understand it could mean any kind of a night club. Later the doorman in my building referred to Shamrock as "el boliche," which was the second context in which I'd heard it used.

DH,

I don't know how good your Spanish is but this is the strict Argentine meaning of the word: (any question just ask)

BOLICHE.

(pop. Casa donde se venden comestibles (TG. Casa de negocio al menudeo (TG. Establecimiento comercial o industrial de poca importancia, especialmente el que se dedica a la venta y consumo de bebidas y comestibles, almacén y despacho de bebidas (AD) local nocturno donde se sirven bebidas alcohólicas / (jgo. Juego de bolos (TG) bola pequeña que se usa en el juego de bochas (TC. Balero (TC)

Notice that in Argentina Boliche isn't used for bowling - here they use the word as it is in English for the game. Boliche is a very different game.

Sure, I understand that perfectly. They don't use boliche for bowling in Mexico either, although they might use it for bowling [b]pin[/b]. I wouldn't know. I gave up bowling for sex because the balls are lighter and you don't have to change your shoes.

Bochi Balls or Lawn Bowling for you English types!

Boliche is still used by the younger crowd to describe a bar. Not a disco though.

Pub, etc. Not very nice. Just a joint!

You boys do remember Bocchi Balls don't you ¿

Italian, English.

My uncle has the only Bochi Ball court in Houston, Texas.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre]Bochi Balls or Lawn Bowling for you English types!

Boliche is still used by the younger crowd to describe a bar. Not a disco though.

Pub, etc. Not very nice. Just a joint!

You boys do remember Bocchi Balls don't you ¿

Italian, English.

My uncle has the only Bochi Ball court in Houston, Texas.[/QUOTE]I used to play at FCI Phoenix.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]I used to play at FCI Phoenix.

Exon[/QUOTE]I used to play at Jimbo's on Virginia Key.

Dogg

Would one of my fellow mongers please translate these sentences for me?

- Will you suck my cock without condom?

- Can I cum in your mouth?

- Can I cum on your face?

- Will you swallow my juice?

[QUOTE=Summerguy]Would one of my fellow mongers please translate these sentences for me?

- Will you suck my cock without condom?

- Can I cum in your mouth?

- Can I cum on your face?

- Will you swallow my juice?[/QUOTE]You know how to talk to chicks!

[QUOTE=Summerguy]Would one of my fellow mongers please translate these sentences for me?

- Will you suck my cock without condom?

- Can I cum in your mouth?

- Can I cum on your face?

- Will you swallow my juice?[/QUOTE]Me chupas sin forro?

Te puedo acabar en la boca?

Te Puedo acabar en la cara?

Me tragas la leche?

It would be very interesting to see how it would work out for some non-Spanish speaker to show up in a club or a privado and read those phrases off of a note card.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]It would be very interesting to see how it would work out for some non-Spanish speaker to show up in a club or a privado and read those phrases off of a note card.[/QUOTE]I'd pay for a tape of that! Hahahahahaha

I memorized similar phrases long ago and have used them successfully in numerous privados. When in doubt - or if she looks like she might not agree - throw in "propina?"

[QUOTE=Aqualung]I'd pay for a tape of that! Hahahahahaha[/QUOTE]

Thank you guys!

What's propina?

[QUOTE=Summerguy]Thank you guys!

What's propina?[/QUOTE]Propina means "tip" or "service fees"