Black

I was telling Stowe about it the other day. Best sex Ive ever had in my life was with a chicka from Black. A buddy came down with me after just selling his company and was loaded. I took him to Black and to show his appreciation he paid for my choice. I've written about her before so no boring details, though I will say that she got me off more in the smallest amount of time than any chica before in my life. Cost was US 200 and worth every penny.

600 P doesnt mean the same to Mpexy as it may to me. If he's happy with what he's getting, there can be some amazing women at Black. However IMHO its not what it was 4 years ago.

Plus you have the added benifit of protection from AIDS (inside joke)

Yep, I'm happy at Blacks, and I pay what I need to pay to get what I want there, but it also depends on the place I'm at.

I like a mix of things, and to change things up all the time - both in types of places and types of gals. So while I would say I frequent Blacks or Madahos a bit more than some other places, I do get around to a lot of other places as well. And when I go from place to place, I don't pay the same.

I'm not that huge on negotiating a girl to her absolute bottom level, and probably not that popular with the budget police crowd, but I try to pay starting as a base from what I think is the roughly going rate at that location. E. G. A downtown club girl definitely does not get 600p no matter what she looks like. Different places, different rates.

[QUOTE=Andres]I don't get the idea.

Why pulling out the lower 50% of Black girls for ARS 400-500 when you can pull the high end of other boliches for ARS 150-200?

Girls at Black are usually a couple of notches above the average, but if speaking about the lower 50% , they cannot be much prettier than the best ones at Cattos or Cocodrilo.

Andres[/QUOTE]No way. Perhaps the upper 25% in somewhere like Affaire, but I find the lower 50% in Blacks to be much hotter than the upper 50% in the triangle. That being said I'm not a Blacks regular, I will just pull from there from time to time.

I can give one solid example. 2 trips ago I pulled a girl for 410 pesos, I posted about it in this thread and got flamed of course. But this girl had a rock hard body, 6 pack, goes to the gym every single day, and f'ed my brains out. It's unlikey that I would have found this babe in the triangle. Definitely a top 10 or 15 experience for me.

The great service hinged upon the fact that she was busting her ass for about 30 minutes just to get my attention and buy her a drink. Sure they are all trying to get your attention, but when one is being so diligent about it for an extended period of time, I have to check it out and see what's going on. We talked and she was nice, and she also wanted me to come swimming in her apartment building the next day. I declined because I had other obligations, but still it was a great experience.

Anyways I don't like hanging out in dive bars in the United States, so I'm sure as hell not going to pay all that money and start hanging out at dive bars in argentina (eg flores, the triangle, crocodillo). Just different strokes for different folks.

FYI - I just want to make sure my opinion is differentiated from anyone elses. Can't comment on Flores, and while this thread is about Blacks and why I like it, I don't consider the triangle clubs like Cattos or Hooks, or Crocodillos to be dive bars.

For my tastes, I end up having to be a lot more selective out of those places, compared to Blacks or Madahos, but I want to be clear that just because I say I prefer the overall higher quality level of Blacks from time to time, that doesn't mean I think these other places are so bad I'd classify it as a real dump or a dive bar.

[QUOTE=Marak5]Anyways I don't like hanging out in dive bars in the United States, so I'm sure as hell not going to pay all that money and start hanging out at dive bars in argentina (eg flores, the triangle, crocodillo) Just different strokes for different folks.[/QUOTE]Which boliches have you visited in Flores? What didnt you like about the area?

[blue]Hi Guys,

This is the thread for Black. If you want to discuss the clubs in Flores, then please start a new thread or move your conversation to one of the existing Flores club threads.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Moore]Which boliches have you visited in Flores? What didnt you like about the area?[/QUOTE]I never even been there, but you told me they are all working class places. Not even interested in checking it out to be honest.

[blue]Hi Guys,

This is the thread for Black. If you want to discuss the clubs in Flores, then please start a new thread or move your conversation to one of the existing Flores club threads.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Marak5]I never even been there, but you told me they are all working class places. Not even interested in checking it out to be honest.[/QUOTE]That sounds similar to most Americans' "opinion" of Argentina (those that have heard of it). Just another malaria-infested shithole south of the Rio Grande or possibly in Africa. Definitely not worth visiting, much better to stick with Daytona Beach and DisneyLand.

I think its best to not judge places/things you haven't tried or even seen, especially in a country that youre not familiar with.

BTW Flores is a middle-class neighborhood. Most of the neighborhood and nearby Caballito are fairly nice. Middle class argentinas are the best in my opinion. Ive noticed a more feminist/feminazi attitude developing among the chicas from the wealthiest classes (some from San Isidro, etc). Caused by too much exposure to Anglo culture IMHO. And they're not any hotter than the middle/working class babes.

In Argentina, sexy women seem to be abundant in all economic classes, throughout the country. I cant say the same about USA. Generalizations about classes in the USA don't necessarily apply in Argentina.

[blue]Hi Guys,

This is the thread for Black. If you want to discuss the clubs in Flores, then please start a new thread or move your conversation to one of the existing Flores club threads.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

On my last visit to Black, which was on a Thursday night, my dominant impression was "gawkers."

Thursday traditionally brings out the highest number of customers to this place. And they were thick as flies on shit. And most of them were just standing around in little clumps, guys talking to eachother, and just looking at women.

After a bit of scounging I found a couple of chairs at the bar for myself and my wingman - and what do you know, a threesome of Yankee dopes in their flowered tourist shirts come in and plant themselves right in front of our chairs. Blocking the view of everything except the flowered cloth and the "Levis" tag on the ass of their jeans. The only redeeming factor was that I got to eavesdrop on their conversation.

"Hey Bill, I wonder how much these girls are?"

"I dunno Bob, maybe five hundred dollars? Heck, I have no idea. But it can't be much."

"Yeah, not much at all! This is a great place."

Dumbasses. They had absolutely no fucking clue.

And herein the lesson: You guys who have discovered this board have discovered a powerful information resource. Use it, learn from it, and contribute back to it.

For the record, Bill and Bob Kettle and their stupid sidekick Walter eventually left without having anything on their arm. And neither did I, although I eventually ended up at Madonna, which I report about in that thread.

You forgot to mention the "mosquitoes" at Black, Hunt99. One particular little chica (that did not attract me at all) kept coming over and shaking her ass in my face, which was marginally funny the first time, but rather annoying the tenth time. Like a mosquito buzzing in your ear.

I estimate there were 70? chicas in Black that night, jam-packed in with more goofy just-off-the-plane gringos (hundreds?) than I knew existed in all of Argentina. Out of 70 chicas, I spotted one (1) that was OK, though silicon is always a big turnoff. I have an inflatable doll at home anyway. Other observations about the Black lineup - several "girls" into their 30s, a few apparently 40+, lots of aboriginies, and lots of plastic/makeup/bones. Most looked like rough streetwalker prostitutes wearing decent clothes. "Although the monkey is dressed in silk, it's still a monkey".

P30/beer for the privilege of sitting (or standing) in the almighty Black. I didn't even approach a single girl and the overcrowding sucked. But a name is a name and Black is Black. It's right across the street from Alvear Hotel and taxis from all over the city receive commissions for bringing clueless gringo tourists there. Talk about a tourist trap.

Luckily I nabbed a seat at the bar after having to stand for a while. As Hunt99 said, it was a gawking scene – problem is I was sitting at the bar and the girls were on the other side of the narrow bar area gawking at me and the other customers, as if WE were on display! That's not the way it works – the girls should be at the bar/stage and I should sit at my table gawking at them. They shouldn't bother me and if I raise a finger they come to my table. That's they way it works in my boliches anyway.

There are so many boliches in this town with 15-20 girls and a relaxed, not crowded atmosphere where you can take a seat, drink some beers, and look at the girls sitting at the bar. Most importantly, 3 or 4 out of 20 are sometimes pretty/sexy instead of 1 in 70, and your evening has a "happy ending" (you bust a big nut on a hot chica or two). I had a happy ending later that night at Madonna.

I hadn't been to Black in over 2 years, no plans to return. I understand that that Thursday may have been an exceptionally crowded night, but by the same token I saw a huge sample of Black girls, which were nothing to write home about, as if I didn't already know that. Going there is like going to an "upscale" restaurant with a prestigious name and paying $30 for a stale Big Mac (served on a silver platter) when you can go to various "average" restaurants and pay $10 for a good fresh filet mignon and enjoy yourself while reviewing the menu.

[QUOTE=Marak5]No way. Perhaps the upper 25% in somewhere like Affaire, but I find the lower 50% in Blacks to be much hotter than the upper 50% in the triangle. That being said I'm not a Blacks regular, I will just pull from there from time to time.

I can give one solid example. 2 trips ago I pulled a girl for 410 pesos, I posted about it in this thread and got flamed of course. But this girl had a rock hard body, 6 pack, goes to the gym every single day, and f'ed my brains out. It's unlikey that I would have found this babe in the triangle. Definitely a top 10 or 15 experience for me.

The great service hinged upon the fact that she was busting her ass for about 30 minutes just to get my attention and buy her a drink. Sure they are all trying to get your attention, but when one is being so diligent about it for an extended period of time, I have to check it out and see what's going on. We talked and she was nice, and she also wanted me to come swimming in her apartment building the next day. I declined because I had other obligations, but still it was a great experience.

Anyways I don't like hanging out in dive bars in the United States, so I'm sure as hell not going to pay all that money and start hanging out at dive bars in argentina (eg flores, the triangle, crocodillo) Just different strokes for different folks.[/QUOTE]Marak5:

Take into account that I'm a native and I see things different. I can move seamlessly from club to club and trigger "meaningful" conversations with girls anywhere, so language barrier and fear of being ripped off as a foreigner don't apply to me, thus money becoming much more important as a factor. Other people would feel much more at ease in Black than elsewhere and don't mind spending additional USD 100, and I don't blame them. As you said, just different strokes.

That said, I saw several girls from Affaire, Madahos and such working later at Cattos. The most remaquable one was Hamida, that busty Cuban girl who used to work at Madahos.

In any case, beauty is on the eye of the beholder. To me, the quality of that lower 50% doesn't set much apart from the top girls at the Triangle, some of whom also bend over backwards to go out with you and please you.

Andres

[QUOTE=Moore]You forgot to mention the "mosquitoes" at Black, Hunt99. One particular little chica (that did not attract me at all) kept coming over and shaking her ass in my face, which was marginally funny the first time, but rather annoying the tenth time. Like a mosquito buzzing in your ear.

I estimate there were 70? Chicas in Black that night, jam-packed in with more goofy just-off-the-plane gringos (hundreds? Than I knew existed in all of Argentina. Out of 70 chicas, I spotted one (1) that was OK, though silicon is always a big turnoff. I have an inflatable doll at home anyway. Other observations about the Black lineup - several "girls" into their 30s, a few apparently 40+, lots of aboriginies, and lots of plastic / makeup / bones. Most looked like rough streetwalker prostitutes wearing decent clothes. "Although the monkey is dressed in silk, it's still a monkey".

P30/ beer for the privilege of sitting (or standing) in the almighty Black. I didn't even approach a single girl and the overcrowding sucked. But a name is a name and Black is Black. It's right across the street from Alvear Hotel and taxis from all over the city receive commissions for bringing clueless gringo tourists there. Talk about a tourist trap.

Luckily I nabbed a seat at the bar after having to stand for a while. As Hunt99 said, it was a gawking scene – problem is I was sitting at the bar and the girls were on the other side of the narrow bar area gawking at me and the other customers, as if WE were on display! That's not the way it works – the girls should be at the bar / stage and I should sit at my table gawking at them. They shouldn't bother me and if I raise a finger they come to my table. That's they way it works in my boliches anyway.

There are so many boliches in this town with 15-20 girls and a relaxed, not crowded atmosphere where you can take a seat, drink some beers, and look at the girls sitting at the bar. Most importantly, 3 or 4 out of 20 are sometimes pretty / sexy instead of 1 in 70, and your evening has a "happy ending" (you bust a big nut on a hot chica or two) I had a happy ending later that night at Madonna.

I hadn't been to Black in over 2 years, no plans to return. I understand that that Thursday may have been an exceptionally crowded night, but by the same token I saw a huge sample of Black girls, which were nothing to write home about, as if I didn't already know that. Going there is like going to an "upscale" restaurant with a prestigious name and paying $30 for a stale Big Mac (served on a silver platter) when you can go to various "average" restaurants and pay $10 for a good fresh filet mignon and enjoy yourself while reviewing the menu.[/QUOTE]After discussing and comparing in person, I came to the conclusion that Moore's tastes vary widely from my own. "There is no accounting for taste." I simply don't agree with his judgment that so many of the girls in Black are ugly or old. He pronounced one girl whom I "know" from there quite well as being ugly and on the high side of 40. She's 28 and quite attractive. How do I know her age? First of all, I've done 40 year olds. She doesn't have a 40 year old's body. Secondly, she told me she's 23. Chicas always drop 5 years from their age, it is a fixed rule.

For my own part, I thought some of the girls Moore especially liked were not really my type. So, as in all things in life, [i]caveat monger[/i]. The dick you please must be your own.

Now for what he got right: Yes, it was as crowded as hell when we visited, a real turnoff. Yes, some flaquita came waltzing by about a half dozen times shaking her bony ass at us. Yes, I saw some chicks I would call ugly; certainly not a majority or a plurality. However, I see ugly chicks in every boliche. Drinks were actually 35, not 30. And Moore paid, so my real cost was ZERO!:) But IIRC they were 25 in Madonna, and are probably about the same no matter where you go, so there are no great discounts anywhere that's disreputable.

Anyway, my most recent visit here was not great, but then again, that's true of most places on any given night. A lot of the fun consists solely of checking out the scene. I do agree with Moore that Madonna is a good destination, depending of course on your tastes and preferences.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]600 P doesnt mean the same to Mpexy as it may to me. Plus you have the added benifit of protection from AIDS (inside joke)[/QUOTE]Heh, I caught that brutha!

I made my first trip to Black last night. Admittance and drink prices as reported here previously. A pretty impressive place I would say. The pole dancers were luscious. It was chock full of both chicas and guys. As regards the debate on the board about quality, my impression is that there were more 7's and 8's than I have seen elsewhere, with some bordering on higher. There were also a number of run of the mill chicas, who I thought looked out of place. I do agree that if you took some of the chicas out of this place and put them in a "regular club" they would probably drop a tad in attractiveness. The surroundings tend to bolster the looks department. I had a couple of beers and drifted home. There were many chicas imminently fuckable, and I will return after having a talk with my wallet and bag one of them.

Dog

Went here with my English only speaking buddy and a Porteno on a Wednesday. It was packed with all types. I ended up taking over the conversation for my Porteno buddy with 2 chicas who he was trying to get a handle on culo availability. One was one wasn't. We started talking a both of them and me. The cutie, wanted no less than $US200, didn't do culo, and left with a very nice smile to try elsewhere. The 3-4 said sure to 250P and culo all night if you want. Still couldn't bring myself to it.

My buddy hooked up talking to a very intelligent engish speaker who had lived in the US, now in Palermo Hollywood, and likes the nice things money from Black can buy. I said we had just been to dinner in Palermo, she asked where, and I said 'Casa Cruz', which she said is one of her favorite restraurants. Let me say, it is one expensive place, but nice.

Still, at 150p to sit and talk for an hour, she would rather leave to get the gringo hopeful at $US300.

MAG

It is Tuesday. Earlier, Jackson came to the apt. and invited me for dinner. When he asked my night time plan, I told him that tonight is designated for my annual assult on Black. Jackson said that he will join me also.

After dinner, Jackson and I went to Black around midnight. There were lots of chicas that I have not seen during my August visit. Jackson and I both agreed that about 70% of the chicas are very ordinary. However, there were quite a few attracative ones also.

I look for certain qualities in a chica, because of my inclination to do TLN. So very soon, I concentrated on a chica who look to me very lovely and genuine. I knew it was too early to do any negotiations. However, I wanted to learn a little bit more about her and invited her over.

She and couple of her friends are visiting from Uruguay and living in congresso area. Perfect candidate for a TLN. She was all game, except the price I offered. I told her to think it over. It is too early, if she did not find anybody then we can negotiate further.

Meanwhile, I spotted a real hottie. She was talking to couple of the girls in the back, and that's why I never saw her earlier. She is the prototype of a classic "Black" girl. Tall, blond, thin, white skin with a gorgous figure. These are the girls demand and get 200 USD easily. I try to stay away from them, normally. But something happened tonight! We kept on looking at each other with deep graze, and she was not turning her face. There is some possiblity after all! But I have so many demands, it is hard to get excited at this point. A guy courted her for some time and it looked like the deal fizzled. Meanwhile, at every opportunity, she was looking at me!

Jackson said goodbye around 2 AM. We both talked to Danny (the floor manager) for a while, before he left. Jackson left me with a friend of his, Rich.

It is past 2 AM and I got to be very active, to have any real chance to close any deal. Rich boosted my ego by saying that he will watch the "master" in action to-night. Before that, I was giving him some pointers about the art of negotiations (with chicas) and impact of proper timing.

I have now left with two choices, the girl from Uruguay, who just came and sat infront of me to draw my attention and the "hottie". I concentrated on the hottie! She was about 5 ft from me on the other side of the table. I did not take my eyes off her for a second and she also was intensely started looking at me. We are looking through the dancer's legs, between the beer glass, etc. It was a classic cat and mouse game which made me very excited. Finally, her friend made a hand gesture to me which literally said " when are you going to invite her over?". It was around 2:30 AM and I finally called her over.

She is Karen, 21 yr. Old, a true beauty. Her first word was that why was I looking at her for so long. I countered "why did you?". There are times you feel that things may go well and it was one of those times. Normally, I do not expect that these kind of girls will go out with me for a TLN with the money I offer them. But the only reason, I got her, because she is very new at Black. Only working for three weeks and still did not grasp the "Black" technics yet. Finally, I laid down the rules of the game, She asked for 400 P for 2 hours, I said no way! I offered her 300 Peso for TLN. She budged, went back, came back again, then said she can stay for 3 hours. At this point I knew, she is toast. I agreed knowing that this will definitely turn into a TLN. However, there was a final obstacle, which I could not have dreamt about. She never went to an apartment, she only goes to hotel. I could not believe what's happening. Finally, I took her to Danny. Danny told her that I am one of their valued clients and there is no problem in going to the apartment with me. However, final decision is still hers and they can not force her to go with me to the apartment. At this point, Karen felt very embarrassed and hid her face behind me. I had to go through the obligatory drink (60 P) and we were on our way to my apt. Rich monitored the whole thing and congratulated me on my accomplishent of the night.

Once she entered the apt., all her fears disappeared. And once she got involved with me, this girl turned into an angel. I asked her whether she had any russian lineage. She had some distinct russian look on her face, which she inherited from her russian grandmother. An excusite beauty, I just could not take my eyes off her.

After she came back from shower, another surprise! What a body! Tall curvy figure, breast are of perfect size with pink erect nipple. A shaved pussy with a supersize clit. BBJ (light), (prefers CBJ), DFK, true GFE, DATY, all were on the menu.

The biggest surprise of all that this kid loves "cola". This is the first time I started my penetration and finished my act in a cola. A night to remember! We finished around 5:30 AM. She washed up, came back to bed, went under cover quickly and held me tight and fell asleep. My well calculated bet for a TLN.

It is past 12:30 PM, and she does not want to get up. Miss Candela is coming to see me around 3 PM. I had to force her to leave by 1 PM, with a promise to see her on Sunday, my final night at BsAs. Great kid!

Bandy

This was my third night in Black this trip. In this trip, I found, that the girls in Black are much more desirable than their counterparts in Madahos. And there are many to choose from.

There were two girls I was interested, but soon discovered that they were out of my price range. I could still take them for a short time, but I was primarily interested in TLN.

The girl from Urugauay (from Tuesday night) was angry with me because I took Karen instead of her. She was full of attitude and I ditched her shortly.

There were plenty of prospects and soon I got what I wanted. She is Jessica, 24 yr old, never married, no children and lives alone. Perfect for a TLN. A classic Italian beauty, white skin, black hair. And get this, tonight is her first day of work in Black. A fresh face in the business. The girl even did not know what drink to order when the waitress came to take the order. When I offered her 300 P for TLN, she meekly protested saying that the figure seems kind of low for Black. I countered saying that tonight is her first night and she is kind of an "apprentice" on the job. And we all get paid low during our training period. I told her that she can raise her fee from next week, when I am gone. I think my Castelleno, made her very comfortable and soon we were on our way to the apt.

The balcony of the apt. served a great backdrop for a romantic interlude. We were sipping wine and chatting away with stories from each other's past. Things could not be better.

The main act was kind of a downer for me, because of the fake breasts. I can not take fake breasts. Otherwise, everything else was great. She was a sex crazed woman. May be having it after two months. She almost killed me. One of the tightest boxes, I ever encountered! She was multi-orgasmic and about two hours later, finally I finished.

She left around noon. This trip Black was the greatest surprise for me. It came thru for me over and over again. It was the best bang for "my" money!

Bandy

Next time I am in buenos aires I will work my budget out so I can take girls from Blacks every night.

I find that the girls have the most class in Blacks. I like the fact that many of them know how to dress well. Most of the girls in the other cabarets are so fucking gaudy.

The knockouts provide very professional if a bit uninspired service. Still, this is highly preferable to the crapshoot that you get in somewhere like Medahos or Solid Gold. You pay for what you get.

Many girls in Madahos just get on my nerves. Many seem to be on coke. Hot girls in Blacks I talked to are making more money than me. I like this fact. In a lot of other places I find it to be true that you can take the girl out of the provincia but not the provincia out of the girl. I'm tired of dealing with the trash.

200usd is a small price to pay for some of these girls that would easily run 1000usd in nyc per hour.

They really should boot 10 or 12 of the lower girls out and just let the hot ones work only. The dancers put me into a trance.

Once you go Blacks you never go back.

US$1000 for an hour? And I thought Black was expensive.

I've been to Black one time, and spent most of the time translating for an estadounidense and the least attractive woman in the place, maybe a 5 or a 6. After about 30 minutes of flirtation, she asked him for US$225 for an hour, and 5 seconds later he said yes and they were on their way. The guy had wandered over from the Alvear Palace. His group of hunters was spending one night in Buenos Aires before heading to the provinces to kill some birds. I figured Black's take-out business was mostly from that type of client, just in town for a few days with money to burn or wealthy locals. But in a moment of weakness I could definitely see myself dropping $200 on a couple of the stunners I saw there that evening.

200 bucks? The most I've spent in Black is about half that (plus cab fare and of course, the dreaded chica drink). While it's not terrible, remember to use your large head and not your small one when negotiating. Remember that as the night gets later, the number of customers tends to go down, as do the bottom line prices. Judd's spot-on description of a negotiating session at Madaho's could be just as easily employed at Black:

[quote=Judd]We started talking price and I got the 200us bullshit. I didn't fuck around and said 200 pesos. She countered with 300pesos minimum. At that point, I thought there would be a middle ground so I took her to the back of the club to get her heated up. We started making out and she was grabbing my Johnson. I knew I could get her for 250p so I went ahead and ordered her a drink 65p. We kissed and grouped one another for about 20 minutes whe she asked me if I wanted to go. I said I can't afford 300, but how bout 250. She agreed and we were off. It was a small win for me.
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And remember not to get too shitfaced drunk, also. Not only does it lead to whiskey dick, it also causes you to pay higher prices because your negotiating skill and judgment are impaired. ;)

[QUOTE=Hunt99]And remember not to get too shitfaced drunk, also. Not only does it lead to whiskey dick, it also causes you to pay higher prices because your negotiating skill and judgment are impaired.[/QUOTE]This impairment caused me to walk into Black a few months ago, which was one of the biggest mistakes of 2006. Dumb and dumber.

Well, I won at the casino, so I had an excuse. In fact I was just about to turn my initial 100 peso investment into 500 pesos. Dealer has a ten. I get 11, double down and draw a ten, I'm sitting pretty. We get down to the last guy at the table, who has a king and a two.

Do I have to tell anybody who got the Ace that was next in the shoe? I wanted to choke the guy to death, but earlier I saw somebody stand with a pair of 8s, never mind dealer 7. Why get worked up over idiots?

Nevertheless I left the casino rich and went to Black. I've never been there before because in my experience high price chicas don't really do it for me.

Hey Chica D! "The knockouts provide very professional if a bit uninspired service." What does that mean? What do you want?

If it's eye candy you want, Black has a lot of it, especially the dancers. But for every really hot babe there were two ordinary ones. I kind of was expecting more.

I want inspired service! But looking around the place I didn't see anybody who could possibly be worth these prices everybody quotes. I would have paid 400 pesos for the dancer.

Bottom line on Black for me is, definitely a nice place to go have a beer and hang out, but I don't like the the risk / reward factor for a chica investment.

So I decided to go to Madahos, but the taxi driver asked me if I had ever been to Shampoo. I hadn't so that's where I went next. (To be continued on the Shampoo thread)

By the way, it was Saturday night, around 1:00 am that I was there. Maybe 30 chicas, many guys. And one other thing: the guys at the door told me that it was not obligatory to buy the chica a drink if you wanted to leave with her.

A taxi from Black to Shampoo, did he get into 2nd gear?

A creative driver might do a detour once around the obelisco, just to adjust the fare on the meter a little with his expectations.

Look, I got the cab because I was going to Madahos!

That area between Shampoo and Madahos is very dangerous. Good move!:D

[QUOTE=Rockin Bob]Look, I got the cab because I was going to Madahos![/QUOTE]Black, Shampoo and Madaho's are all within 5 blocks of each other. Good thing you took the taxi, you didn't want to stroke out on the sidewalk.

You haven't been hanging out at Grant's with Jaimito, have you? :D

Well, maybe you don't need a tin hat. I'm amazed your post has survived without anyone noting that you're out of your mind to be paying U$200 here and think it's a deal.

You need serious help, re-programming I think the Communists used to call it. A few nights under the guidance of Jackson or DH or Dave. This board exists for multiple reasons now but it's always been about how to find the chicas and how to keep from fucking things up by over paying them.

You can go to Blacks and find fine looking girls who will quote you prices in U$, this is not a good sign. You'll also find girls there who will speak english and quote even higher prices because they know there are guys coming there who are staying at the Alvear or the Four Seasons and who are accustomed to getting rolled for those numbers. But you can go to Madahos for example and find similiar quality, if the prom queen is your thing, and negociate for 200 pesos.

The local economy is in pesos which is 3.10 to the U$, even better for Euros. Think it over, 200 pesos is still a lot here, do some research once you get here and try not to muck it up for the rest of us. Unless throwing a lot of money at girls is part of what turns you on, in which case please - go to Black, where "there's some Puerto Rican girls that are just dyin' to meetchu".

Thanks for the good advice Bacchus,

I'm starting to get that things are different at these clubs in BA than in Europe and I also get that they are much cheaper, and no I don't like to throw money around at chicks, But as I said I'm coming from a place where you either have a steady or you pay and if you want to pay its expensive.

Don't trip though man, I'm not going to try to mess it up for anyone, but I see it's a different game there and it will take time to learn, but badboy ain't no simp bro, I just want hot chicks at a good price and if $200Ar is reasonable than I'm all over it. I'm planning on squeezing every ounce of pussy outta my newly converted pesos. I want to try Black and Madahos and also some internet hotties I've seen.

Thanks for letting me know what I should be paying at Black.

$200Ar take it or leave it ***** hehe,

Its all good, thanks for the friendly info bud,

See all you fellow punters in BA soon.

The Bad One

Black on Wed night (2:30) was crowded. I'd not been there since long time, and the place doesn't stand to the level I used to see there.

Found many well known chics. Some of them I've been with some 20 years ago.

The dancers are good, and they offer a good show too.

Cover $40. I really liked only one tall blonde but she left before I could get at her. Anyway, I don't see why to pay so much for these girls, that are not very different from those at Nuevo Estilo.

Enjoy

"Anyway, I don't see why to pay so much for these girls, that are not very different from those at Nuevo Estilo."

Good insight. If more travelers took this approach we would all save lots of money.

Then again there seems to be an Argentine process of raising prices when demand is down to make up for lost business!

Was really looking forward to seeing the 'playboy bunnies' - after the kennel-churn of Orleans and a few of the apt brothels.

I even had my playboy-bunny-money all counted out, and ready to roll.

Black's is - black. An okay space, but when I went (midnight or so) it was me, two glum guys and about 30 chicas who stared at me from 8 feet away.

I was SO unimpressed with the quality of looks, sorry to say - cause I was really looking forward to them, I didn't exactly find the blonde pinup stretched out on the polar-bear rug next to the roaring fire.

Instead just the same lineup. Overall I felt the girls were a little bit better put together - but that could have been because I'd just paid a bundle for my glass of champange and 'enter here all who dare' fee.

I think the top 5% of the triangle looked just as good for half price (or more)

All this is my personal opinion - but so far I really prefer the girls at Madahos - some are virtual bunnies for sure. But I'd skip Black.

In the spirit of General Buck Turgidson in "Dr. Strangelove," I'd hate to make a judgement before all the facts are in, but if Black on the Friday night at midnight that I went was in any remote sense representative of the club scene, then those of you who extol the clubs so much can take that entire scene and shove it up your collective asses.

That place and that scene were, in my mind, fucked up beyond belief.

It wasn't just packed with ugly chicas, it was fucking [i]infested[/i] with ugly chicas. Wall to wall ugly chicas. God they were ugly. Ugly, and with fake smiles glued to their ugly faces. Ugh. Watching them all [b]TRY[/b] to writhe to the equally fucked up bad disco music -- music I thought was outlawed by the Geneva Conventions years ago -- was like watching dying fish flop around the bottom of a row boat. There was not one chica there I would have fucked with your dick. Any of your dicks.

The entire thing was as if Fellini had made "Satyricon" while being simultaneously dosed with bad LSD and food poisoning.

The only conceivable use for that place that I could see would be for a boys night out; a little group debauchery or whatever to bond with the buddies.

And it's not as though I've never been involved with the public auctioneering of sex. I've spent time hanging out on Baltimore's Block, prowling the streets and canals of Amsterdam, exploring Frankfurt's Eros Houses, and enjoying long evenings in San Juan's famous Black Angus whorehouse. I generally enjoy a good public sex market. But this was just plain shitty.

The only -- and I stress, ONLY -- redeeming feature of the visit was one of the dancers. She had a world-class ass. I mean [b][i]World Class[/i][/b]. It was an ass of the sort I routinely have with some fava beans and a good chianti. Fortunately, that ass was one of the last things I saw before I left, and it sort of lingered in my memory until I went to sleep.

But other than that, it was a total fucking waste.

I can't believe I paid 40 pesos for one beer, shitty music, and the worst visuals I've probably ever seen.

Quit pussyfooting around and tell us how you [b]really[/b] feel about the place.

I don't know how it may be on average as I have only been there once, which was a few weeks ago, but most of the girls the night I was there were the best I have seen in any club in Argentina. I left with an absolutely gorgeous girl, who spoke English, looked like the girl next door fantasy and dressed classy. Model quality. So, it definitely must vary from time to time. Not the place I would normally frequent. Forget about the over charging chicas, I can't get over the drink prices. I guess I am just spoiled with everything else BA has to offer.

Straylight was there at midnight. Too early, though his post was funny (anybody who can reference the Los Bravos tune is ok with me). I have been to Black only a few times, but midnight in a Recoleta club (and probably most clubs) is way too early to get a feel for the chica quality.

Well Arroz Con Sueño said he saw 30 chicas there, and that is a pretty large sample size. Maybe it was Pig Night. I did notice that Stray Light was there on a holiday weekend which could be a factor.

I have yet to set foot in the place.

You guys all stay away from Black. I'm coming down in September, and if I see any you in there I'm going to report on the forum so everybody knows about it.

Tonight - against my better judgement. I was trying to find a tango bar (of all places) and ended up in the neighboorhood.

12:30, dead, pigs with lipstick.

I will never go back to black - simple as that.

I've always wondered about this board - so often the pics guys post - you have to admit - they look like gals you should put on an 'avoid at all costs' poster - or someone you might end up with after WAY too much drink (and never admit to the next day)

I thought - wow, these are just old guys posting pics of their butt-ugly GF, cause that's all their money can pull. In actuality it seems they're all the ugly pics of the girls from Black. Ewww.

Madahos at least had some hotter action - but they were the same frigging girls from last week - and I'm sure they'll be there next year.

Just not my scene.

;)

Although I do listen to good advice, I ended up going to Black a few nights ago. It was packed with women - and very few guys. I noticed several very attractive girls, and the majority were above interesting. Many of them (apparently) were non-pros that wanted some eventual action.

I noticed a pretty blonde, Abril. She's tall, blue-green eyes, about 20/21, kind of shy (or reserved). She was with a couple of girls, sometimes dancing at the darker part of the dance floor and never approached or tried to catch the attention of any guy. I was told that she would be a "frequent flyer" at Black. Has anyone been with her?

BTW, I didn't go out with any of them that night, as I already had made arrangements for later on (it was a brief stop).

I left with a good impression. Was I lucky to find the house packed with 7s and upwards?

Robert,

Was she kind of Paris Hilton looking? If so, she has been there a at least 3 or 4 years now.