Madahos

Some people save their money to monger, some people monger with the intent to save money. Who cares. There is no right or wrong, smart or foolish way. Do whatever you feel like doing. I don't go all the way to BA to worry about if I am spending 20 or 30 dollars too much.

The price you pay has nothing to do with the fun you have. The fact one guy only paid 150 pesos doesn't mean he is getting a better performance than the girl that got 300 or vice versa. Just take your time and make the right choice. All this veteran v. Newbie nonsense just makes me laugh. It's all about your own personal style and how you want to satisfy it. If you don't want to pay Recoleta prices don't go to Recoleta. If you would rather go to a club where you can see and breathe, go to Recoleta. Just by being down there and mongering your breaking all of societies rules anyway, just relax and have some fun.

[QUOTE=Hunt99]Because that's what it often comes down to with "The Price Police." For the past few months there has been an absence of this kind of judgmental behavior, and there's no need for it to return. [/QUOTE]It seems you have a memory problem, Hunt. Read this part of your post where you stated that there should not be a return of the "Price Police". Your own words state that those who disagree with you and are Price Police should not be posting their opinion-in your words, "there's no need for it to return".

Tough shit if we return to a subject you do not like.

In the words of Jack Nicholson: Are we CLEAR, now?

And responding to something Puma stated. I think one reason guys overpay is ego. Most men try to impress women by implying they are rich and powerful. Women are attracted to rich and powerful men. I think some guys get their egos satisfied (and rocks off) when they travel playing the big man, the rich gringo, thinking that turns the chicas on. They probably can't play that role at home but when on vacation where their money goes further, they roll-play the big man thing for their own egos and to try and impress the chicas.

JMO
Suerte. Time to move on, this is becoming boring.

Stowe

Exon; Go to the club and pay 40 pesos and just get phone numbers so maybe you can hook up with the girls in the future for less. Sounds like a gamble to me. Stowe is right when people travel to certain countries it is like going to rich mans fantasy camp. Their money goes farther and they throw it around to impress. I know girls look for that and I understand. I just let them know thats not me and if they won't budge then I move along to the next one. Tough to do in high season, to many people tossing money around like its candy.

Puma

[QUOTE=Slick1]I will keep paying all the Madahos girls the 300 pesos they are asking. That way I know that I am assured of having one club where I can go in and have my choice of beautiful women without having to fight with all you 150 peso guys trying to scoop up the action. It's all supply and demand, when I demand, I want a good supply to choose from. All I ask for is for just one club. I promise that once outside Madahos I will pay whatever price you want, but that club is mine. Just me and all my porteno friends that I can outspend. Is that too much to ask for, just let me keep Madahos.

Dave, Jackson, see you guys next month. This time Dave I may even get you into my club. I'll even pick up the difference between the 150 you are used to paying and the 300 I pay just so you to can choose from my lovely stable of women.

Actually the only thing that ever bothers me is paying the 60 pesos for the little cup of apple juice that the girls get. What the hell, I like the atmosphere and it's clean and comfortable.

Some of you guys take this whole mongering thing way too seriously.[/QUOTE]Exactly the point I have been making, do as you guys wish in La Recoletta, but please respect the anti inflation measures used in El Centro.

Slick if Daves not up for your offer I'll be your huckleberry.

[QUOTE=Stowe]Time to move on, this is becoming boring.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you shall enjoy returning to your usual routine of "Murder She Wrote," on DVD, a glass of warm milk, and an early bed time. Night night, Gramps.

PS - I do agree that some fellows will overpay because of ego, that they enjoy playing "high-roller," if only for a night. More power to them. If that turns their crank, then there's nothing bad to be said against it. The fact that some dried-up old men resent other guys having fun doesn't mean shit.

[QUOTE=Hunt99]Perhaps you shall enjoy returning to your usual routine of "Murder She Wrote," on DVD, a glass of warm milk, and an early bed time. Night night, Gramps.

PS - I do agree that some fellows will overpay because of ego, that they enjoy playing "high-roller," if only for a night. More power to them. If that turns their crank, then there's nothing bad to be said against it. The fact that some dried-up old men resent other guys having fun doesn't mean shit.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a fun night, DVD warm milk, Anabel sucking my dick.

First trip to Madaho's last night and I don't know why you guys are bitching about. I thought I entered a mens gay club last night as it looked like a sausage fest. I walked around and unless all the girls were taken, the quality of girls is not even close to Black the other night.

I walked the whole room at around 12 or 1 and tried to find the outstanding looking women that you say are here but unless I'm blind there werén't there. When I was at Nuevo Estilo the other night, the amount of quality girls were a far higher percentage than Madahos.

Even though Black is not what it used to be far as looks it still outshines Madaho far as looks are concerned. I do not take girls out of these places as I'm a cheap fuck and don't spend 100us or more for any chica.

[QUOTE=Pete Puma]Exon; Go to the club and pay 40 pesos and just get phone numbers so maybe you can hook up with the girls in the future for less. Sounds like a gamble to me. Stowe is right when people travel to certain countries it is like going to rich mans fantasy camp. Their money goes farther and they throw it around to impress. I know girls look for that and I understand. I just let them know thats not me and if they won't budge then I move along to the next one. Tough to do in high season, to many people tossing money around like its candy. Puma.[/QUOTE]Pete Puma,

It doesn't take any brains at all to spend money, any dumb MotherFucker can spend money.

You spend all the time and money you want in those Recoleta clubs, Like "Burger King", You have it your way. I'm just telling you that theres more cost effective ways to do this sport and its rare if you find a veteran in these places.

Moreover, You'll have much better sex, "GFE", with a girl you've been doing on a regular basis than a "one night stand" from Madaho's. Now thats not to say that something might develop with a girl from a Recoleta Club. But you've established a price between you, $300 peso's, and thats your price. You'll pay that price until the day you get married.

After you pay it once you'll pay it everytime you do. Its just like anyone else, are you going to work for less money? Course not, she's the same way.

It doesn't take any brains to be stupid either.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]

Moreover, You'll have much better sex, "GFE", with a girl you've been doing on a regular basis than a "one night stand" from Madaho's. Now thats not to say that something might develop with a girl from a Recoleta Club. But you've established a price between you, $300 peso's, and thats your price. You'll pay that price until the day you get married.[/QUOTE]Maybe that's the way you prefer it, Exon, and maybe I share your preferences. However, not everybody thinks this way. And that's why all this pissing and moaning about other guys' experiences and the prices they pay is so ridiculous. "The cock you please must be your own." To hell with what other people prefer.

1036, one thing I've learned about all these clubs is that the talent level changes from month-to-month, week-to-week, and even night-to-night. A few months ago I saw very fine poontang on sale at Madahos, but very little worth purusing at Black. As you found out last night, just the opposite is true right now.

Exon,

I agree with what you said. People love to throw around money. I am used to it, I live in Las Vegas and I see it all the time. People here give the waitress a 20 dollar tip for bringing them 2 bottles of water. It makes me laugh, another high roller wannabe. I was just saying if you are in BA for a week or less it is a big gamble to go to a club pay the cover and just get phone numbers, some don't want to take that gamble. I like it my way, my price. I tell them if they are looking for the horny gringo, Falang good luck. When it gets slow many of them come back and say ok to my price. I never get hung up on one girl. Doesn't make sense.

Pete Puma.

The fact you live in Las Vegas, (Argueably the worst Mongering town in America) speaks volume's.

You've seen it a million times in that town. Yea Hoo's from all over the country, the world for that matter, come to "Sin City" to throw money away gamble and fuck.

The Pussy in that town "Sucks" and way, way over priced. Even the old hags at the Brothels want $300 an hour. Frankly I Jack Off while I'm in Vegas.

Vegas has more prostitutes per captia then any other city in America and they all want $300 dollars, (starting price) or more for an hour of unexpireing Sex. Some Monger's pay 10's of thousands in Vegas. No wonder yourself and others believe that $300 hundred peso's in Recoleta for a "Stunner" is a good deal. Its not, as written below the price of rice in China has nothing to do with the price of rice in New York.

If your a tourst in Buenos Aires Yea your probably right. Your only going to be there for a few short days so why not spend money. But for those of us that travel to Argentina on a regular basis or live their its going to be very rare that you see one of us in a Recoleta club. Its just not good value.

Example, I know a girl who quit Santa Fe 1707. I used to fuck her over their for a hundred peso's. She now works at Madaho's and won't leave for anything less that $400 peso's. I ran into to her a while back and we made a compromise, $150 peso's. Jesica is her name if some of you guy's remember her at 1707.

Again, all of us have different Mongering styles. I like "GFE", to get GFE you have to do the same girl repeted times, not just one "roll in the hay". In time you build a relationship and the sex gets really, really good and the clock doesn't exist. My only problem with that type of Mongering is You have to keep your girls seperated. Not always an easy thing to do.

South American working girls are very possessive and you don't want to get caught fucking another girl. They will inspect your apartment or hotel looking for traces of "the other woman" and when she finds evidence of her your in trouble.

I guess what I'm saying is that if I'm going to waste my time "trolling" in a Recoleta club I'm going to do it on my terms, not hers or the club's. I'm going to cut a deal in the 150 to 200 peso range for a little "afternoon delight" which won't fuck up her work nights. Its added money to her budget and she doesn't lose "face" with the club or other girls. Sorta like "DickHead" with the stunner from Black I wrote about below that quotes $400 peso's. I spent sometime with her socially at the Mansion and the 400 peso pussy became $120 peso pussy.

Enough said.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]

It doesn't take any brains to be stupid.

Exon[/QUOTE]Exon.

This one quote takes you into a whole new league!

Well said (and even corektly speled)

:)

David

[QUOTE=Exon123]...an hour of unexpireing Sex.

Exon[/QUOTE]There's a phrase that inspires shock and awe!

[QUOTE=Capt Dave]There's a phrase that inspires shock and awe![/QUOTE]Its the same as "jacking Off" by "Proxy" Dave.

I mean your having real sex with a woman, but in the back of your mind your really just Wacking Off.

Possibly I should have written "Uninspiring sex"

Exon

I never said I pay 300 pesos. Read the post. You always look to flame. I have no intention on going to Recoleta clubs. I can get that kind of service at home. I am not interested in girls looking for tourists. I said I understand why people with little time pay big prices. I don't agree, I just understand. You think because I live in Las Vegas I do what the tourists do. Wrong! Get your facts straight.

Good strategy Exon. I am enlightened

Has anyone ran into this chica lately. She has short blonde hair no tits but an awesome set of legs and ass. Scratchy voice. I am coming back in march and want to track her down. Awesome service.

Cap

A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.

I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.

It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.

[QUOTE=Wayne Will]A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.

I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.

It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.[/QUOTE]Good for you for not paying her any us dollars. These sluts will take advatange of you if you let them. Those women with attitute should be a sign they wil be trouble later.

Welcome to the Forum.

Good luck fellow dog

How is Madahos on a Monday? I was thinking to hit it tonight or anywhere else if anyone has a good Monday night recomendation.

Cap

[QUOTE=Captain9026]How is madahos on a Monday? I was thinking to hit it tonight or anywhere else if anyone has a good Monday night recomendation.

Cap[/QUOTE]Monday should be a busy night at most BsAs boliches. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are the slowest nights. In my opinion Thursday is the busiest.

After visiting L'Alliance with Badboy to meet up with 2 girls, we went to Madahos minus one (the ugly one who was supposed to be mine) Badboy kept his favorite and we entered the club less admission (Thanks BB. It was my first night in BA, and BadBoy was explaining the way the club worked. He helpfully pointed out some of his favoritas (I really wanted his girl, he knows it!) As he and his chica sat and rested, I circled the club and sized up the talent. BBoy pointed out one of his favorites, and I agreed. It was Sophia. He highly recommended her, and his chica went over to talk to her. She said she was with some other guys and was occupied. Strike one. I then spied the most beautiful girl in the whole place, and ran to Bboy and told him. He laughed and told me she was a "dancer" and wasn't here for sex. I was disappointed. I found a big titted brunette who wanted 300 P. I decided not to jump after the first one as Bboy said, the town is full of pussy, slow down! I decided that I would stay until after 3, to see if the price would drop. I bid Bboy and his chica mucha bonita goodnight as they left. I then waited to see. Things were not going my way, and I was about to leave when who appeared but Sophia! I jumped after her, and talked with her for about 3-5 minutes in my stunted Spanish / her stunted English. I negotiated my way to a 400 P / 2 hr at my apartment. She went back into the back to change as I waited. Guess what- I must have fucked up somewhere in my mind, as I then saw her leave with 2 guys in a suit. I can chalk it up to me not speaking Spanish. But I do not think I was wrong. I think she saw more $$ in them and left.

I then went home. First night- learning experience.

Best Regards.

Smuler

Good report. It's good to see mongers post when things go bad. Let's the rest of us know when it happens to us that it's the life we have chosen with that special type of chica.

Good luck on your chica hunting. Mine starts next week.

Suerte.

Stowe

[I agree with you entirely - I spent 11 days in BA just returend back home - already planning my next trip - it is Costa Rica on steroids. Any way last Saturday night I went to Madaho's about 1:30 a.m. After about 1/2 hour hooked up with Nicole - same price 300 P's for 2 hours spent the whole time with her - excellant quality - she told me her ass is from her Brazzilian mother - she knows how to use it - had the best time with her - excellant personality - 10 all the way - lets you use the whole time experimenting different things - would do her any time ]A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.

I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.

It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.[/QUOTE]

Principal,

I'm glad you had a great experience with her like I did.

Wayne

I went to Madaho's twice with varying results.

The first time, I went with a skinny gal who looked like an anime named Sabrina. She seemed a little tired, or weary of the job perhaps, but warmed up and was actually great. Her body was perfect for me. In fact, I found her totally precious and could have been in danger of falling for her. But I didn't get her phone number. ar$300

The next time, I made the mistake of talking to someone who didn't smile at me. She was very petite, with a pretty face but a little tummy and said she'd been a cashier at a supermarket until one month ago. I made the second mistake of buying her a drink before negotiating. She wanted ar$450, and wouldn't go down. So I left.

But everyone was demading ar$400 and wouldn't go down. So I went back to her and we went to my place. Upon arriving, she didn't want to be touched and demanded the money up front. I said no, later. She said no, now. We went back and forth, and I finally thought it was a waste of time, so I told her to go. She didn't want to go. Finally I made her leave and gave her ar$10 for the cab.

She was cute, but not all that, and no one else there was cuter. I don't think I'll be back to Madaho's.

It seems everyday much harder pick up one for 300 pesos.

Lately they raised drink price and more than one girl told me that the new policy of the house is.

Minimum 300 pesos for argentinos or resident.

Minimum 400-450 pesos for the rest of the world

I think that a good way of locking in prices is to get numbers. Most if not all the girls there will skip a day of work to fuck you for the whole night instead for either the price of one hour from Madahos or two.

The average girl is pragmatic, she understand she can only get 1-2 exits from Madahos a night, meaning 300-600 pesos for a 10pm-5am gig, while she can fuck a well known good client for 300-600. If the girl likes you, you can even arrange a pre work fuck session for free. I would say the only thing good about these clubs are the talent, if the clubs needlessly raise prices, then you must eliminate the middle men. Go to the chicks directly, pick one up for a two hour fuck session before she goes to work for 300 AR, or get her for TLN for 400-600 AR. If you really think about it, the thought of have a beautiful girl fuck you for hours and hours non stop with no time limit for 150-200 US, is quite a deal.

I like Madahos, it is a much better deal than Black and the girls are just as beautiful. But on my last trip I did notice they raised the prices. They used to be 40 AR entrance and 70 AR chick drink. Now they are 50 AR entrance and 80 AR chick drink. Plus the girls now, some anyway, try to start the negociations around 400 AR much more often. But the minute you tell them you are a regular, they quickly accept 300 AR with no time limit. I never negociate time. I just tell them 300 AR, and once I get them to the hotel, I fuck them til the wheels fall off, sometimes 45 minutes, somtimes 2 hours. Oh I usually talk a little before. The way you find out if the girl is a true pro is, if once you finish fucking she immediatley goes to the bathroom and changes and puts her shoes on, she is a pro, but if the girl just lays with you, continues kissing and trying to get you hard again, then she is a guaranteed KEEPER.

Madahos is a good place, stick to your guns boys, tell them you're a regular and you will only pay 300. If the girl is smart she will take it, if she is waiting for the pie in the sky, then she can keep warming that seat.

Bad

PS, I don't go to Madahos anymore, I have scorched the earth there. I have my list of 4 reliable providers from there. Each to fullfill an individual fetish. The only reason I would go there would be to make sure a newbie doesn't get torn a new one, and possibly to try and fuck a dancer.

Yeah so true.

It's still the best club.

The point is that till a couple of months ago 300 pesos was a perfect offer that 90% of the girls were accepting happy and smiling and know it seems to run after black.

[QUOTE=Andrea 64]yeah so true.

It's still the best club.

The point is that till a couple of months ago 300 pesos was a perfect offer that 90% of the girls were accepting happy and smiling and know it seems to run after black.[/QUOTE]Last night sitting in Exedra there were a couple N Americanos behind me. We talked for a little and I tried to school them, vis pricing, clubs etc. My buddies arrive and soon I'm in conversation with them and leave the other guys to their own accord.

Hour later this guy calls this chica over, she's skinny but not young or hot and wants 100 U. S. Dollars. The guy doesn't laugh at her or send her away he counters with 80 for two hours. She holds firm and he accepts her price (I could see his tail between his legs while he was talking to her) 40 minutes after she left with him she is back. I'm sure the service was fabulous. Lets see, 10 min to get to the hotel, 5 to undress and wash pussy minimum 5 minutes to dress and 10 minutes to get back sounds like about 10 minutes of heaven to me so about 600 dollars an hour. I'm guessing he paid her when she walked in the room and when she got dressed the second he came he didn't say a word.

Simple rules, very simple.

Don't get too drunk (little head thinking for the big head)

Don't ever ask for a price first, make an offer and go from there. Make your offer low. Never ever pay them before you are satisfied. Showing the money is ok but under no conditions except in a privado pay for sex before you get it. Learn two new words despues (after) and vete (get out of here) if they insist. Sure give them money for a taxi to get back to the club, well not actually just let them share your taxi back to the club so you can walk back in with them and fuck whichever girl they said goodbuy to when you left. That girl is her best friend at the club.

Don't be afraid to send them away, as often as not they will return and accept an offer with a small face saving bump after they sit for yet another hour. Yes she may leave with somebody else but THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF PUSSY HERE! Move on to the next one.

Be aware of the situation, if the club is full of tacos lower prices, if the sausage out numbers the tacos not so many bargains.

Also watch your chica, best time to strike is after she just wasted an hour or more talking to an Argie that only had a hard dick and no pesos in his pocket. I swear after soccer their favorite past time is keeping hookers at their table for an hour bullshitting and then not fucking them. In this situation make your offer then tell her, you just wasted an hour with those beludos, do you want to talk some more or do you want to leave with somebody? (Que queres, hablando mas o salimos ya?)

Please don't tell me that you have a limited time and the extra 50 bucks doesn't mean anything. I've been hearing that for years and the same guys that used to say it when the differance was 150 pesos or 200 pesos now have their eyes falling out of their heads at 450 pesos. Go to cielioprivado in the afternoon so the epidimial wedgehead pressure is managable at night. Just like you shouldn't be in the grocery store when your hungry you shouldn't be looking for hookers during whiteout.

And for Gods sake if you can't do these things then overpay in the Recolleta and leave the center clubs alone. 300 fucking pesos for a 40 year old unatractive woman at Exedra! They talk to each other just like we do.

Make part of your BsAs experiance rediscovering your cajones, your exwife girlfriend whatever has had them long enough. A buddy of mine said it best years ago when por fin he understood the attitude I was trying to teach him. "I get it, I have to BE A KING!" Exactly

Bob I know I was talking about an event that happened at Exedra on the Madaho thread but I think the info applies. I do so hope you approve.

Great post DRuiz,

One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.

[QUOTE=Combo]Great post DRuiz,

One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.[/QUOTE][blue]Thank you Combo,

For stating [u]THE[/u] reason not to overpay chicas, which is always in effect regardless of your desire or ability to pay more.

Thanks again!

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Combo]Great post DRuiz,

One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.[/QUOTE]I actually think you shouldn't be too congenial during the bargaining phase. I think it's a 3 stage process, at first be funny, make them laugh, just be a nice guy. Then when you bargain, bargain hard be very tough let them know that there are more available and moving on is no problem, what your looking for is them to submit. Make them move to you. After that treat them well again, make the relationship be one where they earn your good will from doing what you want not the other way around. Bottom line is there is more pussy than money.

There's a psychological point here. The point is that by becoming prostitutes, each of these women have mentally submitted to the sexual desires of men. In other words, they tend by nature to be submissive and respond to powerful men using her body for their own purposes.

While this doesn't mean that you should be an asshole, it does mean that most chicas are looking to do what you want, on your terms. Yes, they still have self-interest working, but if you establish yourself in the dominant position during negotiations, then all the good things that flow from women submitting themselves to you should follow.

On the other hand, if you want her on top and like yourself to be bound and gagged, pay whatever she demands. Exon usually does things this way, in addition to having the chicas spank his bottom. [I]Bad Exon! You've been very naughty![/i]

[QUOTE=Hunt99]There's a psychological point here. The point is that by becoming prostitutes, each of these women have mentally submitted to the sexual desires of men. In other words, they tend by nature to be submissive and respond to powerful men using her body for their own purposes.

While this doesn't mean that you should be an asshole, it does mean that most chicas are looking to do what you want, on your terms. Yes, they still have self-interest working, but if you establish yourself in the dominant position during negotiations, then all the good things that flow from women submitting themselves to you should follow.

On the other hand, if you want her on top and like yourself to be bound and gagged, pay whatever she demands. Exon usually does things this way, in addition to having the chicas spank his bottom. [I]Bad Exon! You've been very naughty![/i][/QUOTE]And like driving in Mexico if you show any weakness at all your fucked, or rather not fucked very well.

WOW, DR, BB13, Combo, and Hunt you guys hit the ball out of the park this time, it's like you ripped the pages right out of my play book, but I could never have expressed it so elegantly. Bet that's the first time DR and elegantly has been used together. (Sorry Buddy just joking.) If everybody would heed your advice, quality pussy at a reasonable price would be a lot easier to come by.

I think the problem is most guys tend to deal with these chicas like they would a potential girlfriend. That's just the wrong way to look at it, it's a business deal. You are not trying to get her to agree to fuck you, she's already agreeable to that, you're trying to get her to agree to a reasonable price.

If you walked in to a car dealers showroom and said to the sales manager: WOW, I love that green one, look at the headlights on that thing, man I can't wait to turn them on. I gotta have it, how much is it? And he replied the price is on the window. Ok, I'll take it. Do you think you got a good price? And what do think is going to happen when he tells service manager how easy you were. Do you think the service manager is going to worry about giving you good service? Aren't all independent working girls both the sales and service managers?

One other little bit of advice, once you have been with a chica never talk about money again. (Unless you are trying to get a lower price.) Don't even ask her if the price is the same as before, because if you do, it will just give her an opening to ask for more.

On my last trip I spotted a chica at Exedra I had been with on a previous trip, several guys told me she charges 200p and won't go for less. I told them I had her for 150p and the reply was, "well she won't do it now". So later I called her over, yes I like to make them come to me, I see it as the first step in them understanding they are expected to provide service to me. I ask her if see wanted to go with me; she replied yes and off we went, never talked about money at all. After a very good session I gave her 150p, expecting she might ask for more. She didn't, instead she asks how long I would be in town and if we could get together again. She has since told another monger that she always charges everybody the same.

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[QUOTE=Andrea 64]It seems everyday much harder pick up one for 300 pesos.

Lately they raised drink price and more than one girl told me that the new policy of the house is.

Minimum 300 pesos for argentinos or resident.

Minimum 400-450 pesos for the rest of the world[/QUOTE]I went to Madahos last night. I must say I was impressed by the quality of some of the chicas. A few of them were what I would consider to be a 9/10 and that's rare for me to say. The first hour or so, I talked with 2 absolute stunners. But they were both asking for too much money, and neither one would budge in price. They were asking for 600 pesos and literally walked away when I told them 400 was all I would pay. I even thought 400 was too much as well, but they were HOT and stood out from the others. I was shocked that they turned it down. I've honestly never paid that much before in BA and was amazed it wasn't enough for them. I even specified to them I only required their services for an hour and a half!

Another girl came up and chatted with me a bit who I really wasn't interested in. She had a great body, but the face was bad news. I wanted to see what her price was though, so I asked her. Her initial offer was 400 pesos. I didn't negotiate from there because she didn't compare to the other 2 stunners and I truly wasn't interested in taking her home.

Are these top girls at Madahos getting 600 pesos? That's triple what I've been paying girls in BA from other spots.

Smoothy:

Did you talk about time? Was that quote for 1hr or TLN? Seems like it would be right on for a Madahos girl TLN, but probably not for 1hr.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule]Smoothy:

Did you talk about time? Was that quote for 1hr or TLN? Seems like it would be right on for a Madahos girl TLN, but probably not for 1hr.[/QUOTE]There was no misunderstanding about the time. The girls even said "una hora y media". They wanted 600 pesos for that.

I don't like keeping them all night anyway, so an hour and a half is plenty. But 600 is a little too rich for my blood. Maybe I just looked like a sucker, I'm not sure. I don't speak much spanish so I'm sure I come across as an easy target.

But I'd like to see what these chicas look like.