Clubs and Boliches - General Info

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;444995]Also closed was the legendary Cafe Orleans and Cattos in the micro center. In the next few weeks i expect ALL the boliches will be closed, including my favorite Hook. Experience the last of an era when Buenos Aires was Monger Central.

PS.

And don't count on there being a reversal anytime soon. I'm from NYC. The famous former Mayor "Rudy" Giuliani closed down most of the Monger places in the 1990's. We are still waiting for a return after 30 years?[/QUOTE]I agree. All the signs point to a major clean up. Amazing that it could happen to a city as historically decadent as Buenos Aires but it looks like its going to happen.

I fondly remember the New York of the 1970's and 80's. NYC is certainly cleaner and more safe now, but the allure is not the same as it once was.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;444996]I agree. All the signs point to a major clean up. Amazing that it could happen to a city as historically decadent as Buenos Aires but it looks like its going to happen.

I fondly remember the New York of the 1970's and 80's. NYC is certainly cleaner and more safe now, but the allure is not the same as it once was.[/QUOTE]Another disturbng development is with the private apartment flyers. They use to have addresses on them but now only telephone numbers and there are allot fewer of them.

Also lately I have seen people systematically removing them. At first it was a woman with an angry look on her face and I figured it was some crazed feminist, a modern day Carey Nation who walked into bars before prohibition with an axe and smashed all the liquor bottles but the next day I saw a man doing the same thing and another the day after that.

This all with the police closing of the boliches and high end apartments...

Connect the dots. It seems part of an bigger agenda, by whom and why i don't know, but an agenda nevertheless. I hope this doesn't lead eventually to women in Buenos Aires having to cover up, even wear a veil in public like in Saudi Arabia - that's a monger's worst nightmare:-)

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;444997]Another disturbng development is with the private apartment flyers. They use to have addresses on them but now only telephone numbers and there are allot fewer of them.

Also lately I have seen people systematically removing them. At first it was a woman with an angry look on her face and I figured it was some crazed feminist, a modern day Carey Nation who walked into bars before prohibition with an axe and smashed all the liquor bottles but the next day I saw a man doing the same thing and another the day after that.

This all with the police closing of the boliches and high end apartments...

Connect the dots. It seems part of an bigger agenda, by whom and why i don't know, but an agenda nevertheless. I hope this doesn't lead eventually to women in Buenos Aires having to cover up, even wear a veil in public like in Saudi Arabia - that's a monger's worst nightmare:-)[/QUOTE]Somebody posted this link two or three years ago.

[URL]https://laalameda.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/el-mapa-del-crimen-organizado-de-recoleta-que-sera-presentado-en-el-cacerolazo/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ElPerro;444992]Word has it that the Metropolitan cops were out in force last night in Recoleta. Reportedly closed NewPort, Pagana and the Greek place near where Toreto used to be. I don't know if this is a temporary closing or something else. Either way, the writing seems to be on the wall for the boliches in Recoleta.[/QUOTE]I think that those were the Gendarmeria and not the Metro Police.

Hoods, masks, machineguns, battering rams and camo!

They use those guys to try to limit the corruptional types like the neighboring Police Chief or his staff during city-wide hooker hunts.

Less corruption.

Nobody above, next to or across the street from Hook that has enough power or money to care about Hook.

Recoleta will be surrounded by Shitty food and an expensive mall.

TL.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;444999]I think that those were the Gendarmeria and not the Metro Police .

Recoleta will be surrounded by Shitty food and an expensive mall.

TL.[/QUOTE]I was told it was the Metro coppers but it does sound like the work of the Gendarmeria.

As for Recoleta it will go the way of so many bland and generally useless tourist spots worldwide. As you say, overpriced food, a pathetic mall and a fucking cemetery.

The more those suck ass overpriced clubs get shut down, and the more nasty, dingy privados get shut down, the more argentinean and paraguayan women will be selling pussy on Craigslist and in their own apartments. Selling pussy out of your own apartment is not illegal, no matter how much KFC (I call her that instead of CFK because her neck wattle reminds me of poultry) wishes that it were. Now, don't get me wrong: I love nasty, dingy privados but I am adjusting to nice, clean apartments stocked with paraguayans operating as independent entrepreneurs. Catto's was my favorite club, except for the golden days of Oro, but I don't miss it one bit.

Prostitution will never be stamped out in Latin America. Córtez and Pizarro made sure of that!

So you guys are telling me that Hook now is the next big thing?

I want to know...i am getting there to BA on june 17th.

[QUOTE=RobBarone;445003]So you guys are telling me that Hook now is the next big thing?

I want to know...i am getting there to BA on june 17th.[/QUOTE]Hook is probably the last big thing the way things are going. I doubt it will still be open when you arrive June. The boliches are being shut down almost on a weekly basis at the moment.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;445001]The more those suck ass overpriced clubs get shut down, and the more nasty, dingy privados get shut down, the more argentinean and paraguayan women will be selling pussy on Craigslist and in their own apartments. Selling pussy out of your own apartment is not illegal, no matter how much KFC (I call her that instead of CFK because her neck wattle reminds me of poultry) wishes that it were. Now, don't get me wrong: I love nasty, dingy privados but I am adjusting to nice, clean apartments stocked with paraguayans operating as independent entrepreneurs. Catto's was my favorite club, except for the golden days of Oro, but I don't miss it one bit.

Prostitution will never be stamped out in Latin America. Crtez and Pizarro made sure of that![/QUOTE]I like your way of thinking DH, making lemonade out of lemons!!!

Maybe BA should go to the Red Light District model like you find in Mexico or Singapore.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;445032]Maybe BA should go to the Red Light District model like you find in Mexico or Singapore.[/QUOTE]The idea is not bad. But some one would have to organize and regulate the district. Meaning increased pricing due to pay offs, graft, bribes etc. This is Argentina after all.

977 Marcelo T, Monica's place, was closed last night and closed one night earlier this week when I walked by there. Not sure what's up.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;445035]977 Marcelo T, Monica's place, was closed last night and closed one night earlier this week when I walked by there. Not sure what's up.[/QUOTE]She told me they got shut down because they didn't have a posted evacuation plan and would be reopening soon.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;445036]She told me they got shut down because they didn't have a posted evacuation plan and would be reopening soon.[/QUOTE]It's just about over for BA now. There are hardly any boliches left. How long before they close them all...days...weeks....I suspect at the rate it is going it's more days than weeks.

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;445037]It's just about over for BA now. There are hardly any boliches left. How long before they close them all...days...weeks....I suspect at the rate it is going it's more days than weeks.[/QUOTE]This is true. But with the elections coming, if the FPV loses control.... All should be back to normal by Christmas!! By the way, now is the time for those of you having trouble with your DNI's and other paper work, they are bending over backwards to accommodate you!

Are there any clubs in recoletas open ... Was there Wednesday and everywhere was shut...

Got a report from a friend that the coppers were at Hook last night after 2AM.

FYI, Sens is closed for what that's worth.

Looks like last roundup.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;445048]Got a report from a friend that the coppers were at Hook last night after 2AM.

FYI, Sens is closed for what that's worth.

Looks like last roundup.[/QUOTE]You're probably right. It was just a matter of time the triangle would go next after Recoleta. I'll drop by Hook tonight - IF it's open and report back if it's not.

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;445049]You're probably right. It was just a matter of time the triangle would go next after Recoleta. I'll drop by Hook tonight - IF it's open and report back if it's not.[/QUOTE]I was hoping the boliches on the other side of Avenida de Julio would be spared, but I'm losing faith.

Soon, for kicks, I'm going to check out La Casa Blanca in San Telmo. I wonder if the anti-boliche/gato squad will be targeting out of the way places.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;445050]I was hoping the boliches on the other side of Avenida de Julio would be spared, but I'm losing faith.

Soon, for kicks, I'm going to check out La Casa Blanca in San Telmo. I wonder if the anti-boliche/gato squad will be targeting out of the way places.[/QUOTE]I'm curious also about Estilo Nuevo in Belgrano? I wonder if that's next on the list to get shut down?

Seems to me Nuevo is even more illegal than the rest because of the tying arrangement with the hotel. But those guys are pretty seriously mobbed up.

[QUOTE=Gandolf50;445038]This is true. But with the elections coming, if the FPV loses control..![/QUOTE]Hope springs eternal in the human penis.

Hook was closed last night with the official "closed" strip on the door.

Ness was open, but the old head bartender was standing outside looking like he was awaiting the axe.

Hook was closed...

Ness was awaiting it's execution.

Cafe X was busy of sorts but not as busy as the beginning of the week.

Cafe O was completely dead.

As was CS.

Really?

Where the heck do I go now?

Evrything is close?
Ill get there in 3 weeks and all is gone?

[QUOTE=RobBarone;445073]Really?

Where the heck do I go now?

Evrything is close?
Ill get there in 3 weeks and all is gone?[/QUOTE]Basically, if a significant part of your motivation for coming here was to go the clubs, you should cancel your trip.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;445074]Basically, if a significant part of your motivation for coming here was to go the clubs, you should cancel your trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks man.

Still going for the family but It's sad to see the scene going down.

[QUOTE=RobBarone;445076]Thanks man.

Still going for the family but It's sad to see the scene going down.[/QUOTE]Indeed It is a sad state of affairs and not only for the mongers. For hundreds - if not thousands - of single mothers working the clubs this was their sole source of income during a severe recession.

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;445079]Indeed It is a sad state of affairs and not only for the mongers. For hundreds - if not thousands - of single mothers working the clubs this was their sole source of income during a severe recession.[/QUOTE]Again we have a difference of opinion about a "sole source of income" and about a "recession." The problem I have with this point of view is that I personally know five chicas who used to work in Hook, Ness, etc. and then went back to school or got job training and no longer have this purported or alleged "sole" source of income. And, this has held true through at least one full economic cycle. I disagree completely that in a fairly well developed country such as Argentina, that prostitution ever was or ever will be the "sole source of income" for anyone. It is just often the most expedient one. My perspective comes from having lived in several Latin American countries that are [B]much[/B] less developed than Argentina, and seeing how much lower the percentage is of women who turn to prostitution at the bottom of the business cycle.

This leads me to the ineluctable conclusion that a lot of these chicas are just plain [B]lazy[/B], because of these five women I know:

#1 dropped out of seventh grade and after I met her she went back to school at night for several years, graduated from high school, and has been working factory-type blue collar jobs ever since. #2 dropped out of seventh grade, went back to school at night, graduated from what I guess is junior high school, and then went to culinary school, and has worked various low-level jobs ever since. #3 almost made it through high school, went to barber school, and after I met her opened up her own barber shop. She worked pretty hard at that but the business failed during a down economic cycle, so she went back to school, got a security guard license, did firearms training and etc. And worked in factories, as a security guard, and now is happily married and works part-time in a barber shop. #4 is from Paraguay and is only marginally literate but saved up money, bought a car, and is a remisera in Zona Oeste. She drives during the day and rents out her car at night #5 is from Per, where wages are even lower than here. She graduated from high school and had some college before coming to BA to sell pussy at Exedra. She learned some English and already knew some French from school. She became a mistress instead of a hooker for a while, saved up money, bought a car but did not know how to drive so rented it out, did that for a while, then bought an apartment in Per and rented that out, bought another and etc. And now is doing quite well as a slum lord of sorts.

It is certainly posible that one or more of these friends of mine continued to sell pussy at times during the process, but they all developed other alternatives. For those who don't know, it is free to go to school at night and every suck ass provincia has a place to do it.

So, it is not a question of having a "sole source of income"; rather, it is all about choices and consequences.

Also now closed. Embossed with the standard sign.

[QUOTE=Maxuk;445082]Also now closed. Embossed with the standard sign.[/QUOTE]That closure really surprises me. A lot of well connected Argentine men went there for many years.

Tres3.

[QUOTE=Tres3;445087]That closure really surprises me. A lot of well connected Argentine men went there for many years.

Tres3.[/QUOTE]So what's left?

As of Saturday night just Nuevo Estilo and Ness? Is that it? Only two boliches in all of BA?

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;445088]So what's left?

As of Saturday night just Nuevo Estilo and Ness? Is that it? Only two boliches in all of BA?[/QUOTE]Periplo ?

Marcelo T Monica place ? I'm betting if not permanently shut it will be soon. Why wouldn't it be given the crackdown ?

La Casa Blanca in San Telmo, but only if you want to count that place.

I don't know if Sailor is still open in San Telmo, but again, not really worth counting even if it is.

Its a no holds barred blitzkrieg.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;445089]Periplo ?

Marcelo T Monica place ? I'm betting if not permanently shut it will be soon. Why wouldn't it be given the crackdown ?

La Casa Blanca in San Telmo, but only if you want to count that place.

I don't know if Sailor is still open in San Telmo, but again, not really worth counting even if it is.

Its a no holds barred blitzkrieg.[/QUOTE]Periplo was open Saturday bit not worth the effort.

Mia on Marcelo looks shut.

Any info on these places San Telmo.

M.

[QUOTE=Maxuk;445090]Periplo was open Saturday bit not worth the effort.

Mia on Marcelo looks shut.

Any info on these places San Telmo.

M.[/QUOTE]I used to live on the same block as La Casa Blanca in San Telmo for three years. I stuck my head in there one time and that was it. This was when all the boliches were rolling so I had no reason to do more than look. Plus, I wasn't thrilled with my neighbors seeing me frequent the place. I'm going to take a look soon to see what's what but I'm not expecting much.

My guess is that it is a bit like a poor man's Ness.

I did venture into Sailor a few times and wasn't impressed. Some sketchy looking characters and nothing more than 4-5 level girls. Small, dark, and foreboding.

Was in Cafe X last night.

3 x 8-9s at least particularly a black haired girl in a white top. She said places, as in New Port, may open soon.

Max.

[QUOTE=Maxuk;445095]Was in Cafe X last night.

3 x 8-9s at least particularly a black haired girl in a white top. She said places, as in New Port, may open soon.

Max.[/QUOTE]How much was the girl in the white top asking for an hour?

Tres3.

[QUOTE=ElPerro;445089]Periplo ?

Marcelo T Monica place ? I'm betting if not permanently shut it will be soon. Why wouldn't it be given the crackdown ?

Its a no holds barred blitzkrieg.[/QUOTE]I have a gay friend - well not a "close" friend and he told me that not a single gay boliche - and there are dozens - has been shut down, just almost all the straight ones. What's next - a ban on marriage between a man and a woman ?

[QUOTE=JamesBond69;445098]I have a gay friend - well not a "close" friend and he told me that not a single gay boliche - and there are dozens - has been shut down, just almost all the straight ones. What's next - a ban on marriage between a man and a woman ?[/QUOTE]Not surprising. This anti-prostitution move seems to be part of the worldwide battle against the "scourge" of sex trafficking. Not that any of the hookers AP members have sampled here have ever been trafficked or anything of the sort. But that is immaterial to those leading the movement as they are intent on stamping out prostitution, no matter if the sex trafficking charges are legit or not.

Catering to the LGBT movement is one of the cornerstones of Argentina's tourism strategy. I seriously doubt if the gay clubs will be touched, even though same sex and tranny sex is widely available in many of the clubs themselves.

A hypocritical joke and infuriating. I could go on a rant about all of this as well as the abortion issue in Argentina but what the fuck.

For what it matters Ness is still open for business - as of 1:35 am on May 26th.