2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 424825]I think there was a poll on AP members last year. Surprisingly, majority of respondents were liberal. I cannot locate the post of the poll results. If somebody could, please repost the poll results. Thanks.

BTW, why the name of Black Shirt? Reminds me of the Italian facist party.[/QUOTE]When registering, my designated nick "blackshirt" failed the name-check requirements, so it became Black Shirt. I have to thank the Honorable, Sir Jackson, OBE, VC, BOAC, SPCA, AARP, YWCA for that correct intervention.

No, I am not one of Mussolini's dandy boys. For you guys that follow college football, the blackshirts are the famed Cornhusker defense that terrorizes and maimed a whole host of great & mediocre offenses. No, I do not go around wearing a black shirt, I think I only have 1 black t-shirt.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424803]I must have missed the part where he describes the regressive nature of the potential reforms. I know Glenn, so I will give he a call and ask.[/QUOTE]I would very surprised if Romney came out with a tax program that is more progressive than the current tax system. If his tax plan is more progressive then the one we currently have then I really do not understand the tenor of his campaign. Progressive and regressive are relative terms not defining terms. They do not inform if the tax policy is good or bad. The terms just explain the relative tax burden of different income classes. I think it is fair to say that Romney's tax plan is more regressive than Obama's. The purpose is to reward the job creators to give them incentive to work harder which will improve the economy. I read "Atlas Shrugged." I get it. Wild Walleye give me some love.

It has been a topic of discussion how Hitler, in a few short years, was able to convince Germany to become openly anti semitic, condone armed conflicts with neighboring countries and plunge the world into WWII.

In the future we will be wondering how Obama was able to convince his goose stepping supporters to support class warfare and declare that entrepreneurs are despicable and should be ostracized for their success.

Obama is a known quantity. A moron and there is nothing Obama can do about that. What I don't understand is how seemingly rational people support this moron. Whoops, need to be careful. Don't want Obama to send his Brown Shirts after me.

Hitler plunged his country into a world war and Obama is plunging our countrry into economic chaos.

[QUOTE=Black Shirt; 424826]When registering, my designated nick "blackshirt" failed the name-check requirements, so it became Black Shirt. I have to thank the Honorable, Sir Jackson, OBE, VC, BOAC, SPCA, AARP, YWCA for that correct intervention.

No, I am not one of Mussolini's dandy boys. For you guys that follow college football, the blackshirts are the famed Cornhusker defense that terrorizes and maimed a whole host of great & mediocre offenses. No, I do not go around wearing a black shirt, I think I only have 1 black t-shirt.[/QUOTE]I thought that you were Johnny Cash.

What do you mean by a known "quantity"? Thanks.

[QUOTE=El Alamo;424828]Obama is a known quantity. A.[/QUOTE]

Known quantity.

Someone whose character, personality, and behavior are recognized and understood. We need not worry about how John will behave. He is a known quantity. Lisa is a known quantity and I am sure she will not surprise us by voting with the opposition.

See also: known, quantity.

I am available for english lessons, for free, if english is not your native language. Of course, you need to catch me when I am sober

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man;424827]I would very surprised if Romney came out with a tax program that is more progressive than the current tax system. If his tax plan is more progressive then the one we currently have then I really do not understand the tenor of his campaign.[/quote]I agree completely. I probably wasn't clear in my point. Romney is not proposing a regressive tax regime, which would have lower income earnings paying a higher percent of their income than higher wage earners. I believe that the point of his campaign vis a vis taxes, is to reduce taxes on all taxpayers and particularly on companies (whose taxes are paid by their customers, not by the corporation). Reducing taxes on everyone, or making taxes more fair (like a flat tax) and therefore less progressive, in my opinion, does not necessarily make those alterations regressive (although the Left would want us to believe that is true).

[quote=]Progressive and regressive are relative terms not defining terms. They do not inform if the tax policy is good or bad. The terms just explain the relative tax burden of different income classes.[/quote]I think that progressive taxation is bad and unAmerican. I also do not believe that we have a caste system in the US.

[quote=]I think it is fair to say that Romney's tax plan is more regressive than Obama's. The purpose is to reward the job creators to give them incentive to work harder which will improve the economy.[/quote]You've probably noticed that I like to split hairs. I would agree that any Romney tax plan is likely to be less progressive (and less radical) than anything that Obama proffers.

[quote=]I read "Atlas Shrugged." I get it. Wild Walleye give me some love.[/QUOTE]Was it good? I'm functionally illiterate. I've got lots of love for everyone.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;424823]Is not about de jure rate for "taxable" income. It is about a ratio of tax paid to de facto income, which includes income in tax heaven.[/QUOTE]I know this wasn't directed at me, but I figured I throw in that the numbers from my post came directly from the IRS website, including the percentage of income paid by level of income stats. There is very little opportunity for US citizens to legally avail themselves of tax havens, as perceived by most of the public. Regardless of where the money is, US citizens are required to report every penny of income, except those types explicitly exempted from taxation. Any corporate tax filing requires disclosing if the company has any foreign accounts, regardless of whether or not there is foreign income.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424829]I thought that you were Johnny Cash.[/QUOTE]Yes, I knew we had to have something in common, Folsom Prison. Something to talk about in the future, right!

Walleye, That is indeed grasping at straws. Faced with irrefutable proof that the USA federal tax system is progressive, the best Psyche and Tres can come up with is that the wealthy must be hiding income in "tax heavens". Except for politicians, I've been inclined to give the left the benefit of the doubt. But I'm starting to think that Jackson is right.

Thanks for copying and pasting from the freedictionary. Com, and representing it as your answer.
I will take English lessons from you.

[url]http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/known[/url]+quantity.

[QUOTE=El Alamo; 424831]Known quantity.

Someone whose character, personality, and behavior are recognized and understood. We need not worry about how John will behave. He is a known quantity. Lisa is a known quantity and I am sure she will not surprise us by voting with the opposition.

See also: known, quantity.

I am available for english lessons, for free, if english is not your native language. Of course, you need to catch me when I am sober[/QUOTE]

I have been too busy watching Americans trying to do their best for our Country at the Olympics.

It is too bad our Republicans you voted for can't do the same for You and Us, I am saying US.

The Republicans don't help Us or the unemployed. The Rich Republicans have not created ANY JOBS. Since the 1950s.

Trickle Down Has Proven Not to Work.

Romney said he will create 12 million new jobs. But in What Country?

It says that Mormons don't do Alcohol as part of their Religion.

George Bush had more sense, Have a few drinks and keep your mouth shut about Foreign Policy.

ROMNEY put His Foot Into His Mouth on His Europe, African Tour.

Are You Really Sure You Want Him As YOUR PRESIDENT?

I know from talking to You that You Have More BRAINS than That?

New Jobs Went Up Last Month.

Romney made a great first impression on our most valuable ally, Great Britain. Questioning the readiness of the London Games? Way to step in it. Not surprisingly he got hammered in the British press, with headlines that have made him a laughing stock:

"Mitt the Twit"

"Who invited party-pooper Romney?"

"'Nowhere man' Romney loses his way with gaffe about the Games"

Some papers called him a "wazzock", which has variously been defined as "a daft know-it-all", or less flattering "a fool, esp. One who makes gross mistakes by negligence or incompetence".

What a phuck-up! Even Krauthammer agrees!

Don't want to rain on your parade but Romney has about a 2 to 1 edge on handling the economy over Obama. Of course my dog Rocky would have a 2 to 1 edge over Obama on handling the economy.

Until recently, Obama had an edge over Romney in foreign affairs but after Romney's impressive visits to England, Isreal and Poland this has changed. Now it is 44% Obama. 44% Romney. Guess we are getting used to our new President.

Obama has a big problem. Without a telepromptor Obama meets every criteria of a moron. On the other hand we have Romneys college transcripts. Impressive. Summa cum laude at the Harvard Law School. Quite a contrast with Obama's 1.7 GPA and Obama being on academic probation numerous times for lack of intelligence. I can see it now. In the upcoming debates we will have to lob softballs to Obama such as " in what country is London, england" or " does a $3 BigMac cost more or less than $100 dollars" or "is our round world round or flat". We wouldn't want to expose Obama's IQ which is about the same IQ as a potted plant - and in an IQ test Obama would run a close second to a table top.

[QUOTE=El Alamo; 424853]Obama has a big problem. Without a telepromptor Obama meets every criteria of a moron. On the other hand we have Romneys college transcripts. Impressive. Summa cum laude at the Harvard Law School. Quite a contrast with Obama's 1. 7 GPA and Obama being on academic probation numerous times for lack of intelligence. I can see it now. In the upcoming debates we will have to lob softballs to Obama such as " in what country is London, england" or " does a $3 BigMac cost more or less than $100 dollars" or "is our round world round or flat". We wouldn't want to expose Obama's IQ which is about the same IQ as a potted plant. And in an IQ test Obama would run a close second to a table top. [/QUOTE]Obama graduated from Harvard Law Magna Cum Laude, which, according to Harvard's own website cites a minimum GPA requirement of 3.756.