American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]You know Punter-

The absolute last thing I want to get into here is a personal pissing contest with you or anybody else. This is not personal, it is merely political debate. However, if you mean in your assertions that I am an elitest, in that I only want the elite running the USA, your are correct. I only want the elite intellectuals, who attended the elite educational institutions, attained elite status at said institutions, and hold elite advanced degrees from additional elite institutions to be in charge of the most powerful and influencial nation-state currently in existence. I do not want Billy Ray who graduated from East Nascar State University running the country, nor a former exterminator, nor some guy who only got to where he is at by the fortunate circumstances of his birth. I also do not want some guy who looks to "god" or "jesus" for guidance in making serious decisions regarding policy; I want someone with an IQ of 160 or better using his elite education in International Relations or Economics to decide the best course of action.

The USA is in serious trouble, and it needs an elite intellectual at its helm, not some rich guy's son who has excelled at mediocrity his entire life and only ended up in politics because he failed at everything else.

Suerte,

Rock Harders[/QUOTE]This is what I mean when I refer to you as an elitist;

[quote]e •lit •ism or é•lit •ism (ĭ-l ē't ĭz'əm, ā-l ē'-)

N.

1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

2. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.

Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

Elitist e •lit'ist adj. & n.[/QUOTE]You and your leftwing buddies continue to insult the very people you seek support from. That seems to be working very well, keep it up!

Do you really think that the American people are going to buy into the thinking that somehow YOU (and OBAMA) know what ’s best for the rest of us?

FYI many highly intelligent and educated people look to God for guidance. It ’s a shame you didn ’t include tolerance in your vast studies, personally I find your views and your narrow minded thinking unbelievably sad and pathetic!

But when the why are couple with comon sense, they I have something powerful to offer: a brilliant practical leader. I assume this is what Rock meant. Obama has the qualifications to demonstarate brilliance and comon sense. On the other hand, McCain was at the bottom of his class at university, yet was an effective legislator, until he started making his deals to become president over the last 5 years. You can couple intelligence and comon sense without high grades.

Just my 2 cents

[QUOTE=Doggboy]I heard that if Annie Oakley had not accepted the VP offer that it was going to be offered to Dale Earnhart Jr. And, that initially McCain wanted to put Dale Earnhart on the ticket even though he's dead. You know, in honor of him and all.[/QUOTE]Face it guys. John McCain's selection of Palin as VP was the best political "head fake" in decades.

McCain had Obama and everybody else assuming that he was going to select Romney, luring Obama into selecting Biden as the best matchup against Romney.

McCain then selects Palin, and in a single stroke energizes his conservative base while simultaneously appealing to the defected Hillary voters.

Experience counts!

And you guys think Obama is ready for Putin?

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson]Face it guys. John McCain's selection of Palin as VP was the best political "head fake" in decades.

McCain had Obama and everybody else assuming that he was going to select Romney, luring Obama into selecting Biden as the best matchup against Romney.

McCain then selects Palin, and in a single stroke energizes his conservative base while simultaneously appealing to the defected Hillary voters.

Experience counts!

And you guys think Obama is ready for Putin?

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Right you are that so far the choice of Annie has been a good "marketing" move. It may remain a good move in that regard, though alot can change between now and November. My concerns are many about this choice, but my sarcastic comments about the choice of Annie are more reflective of my concerns about pandering to the public. The common folk that Rock Harders refers to, often vote for candidates based on criteria that might be better used to "elect" a winner of "American Idol", rather than candidates who are more qualified to run the country.

I continue to hold the opinion that the USA should establish an impotent monarchy in addition to the current executive office. This way the public could elect people such as Annie to be "Queen for the Day" (or week or whatever) Maybe this would serve to slake much of the public's thirst for electing people who are more qualified to be some sort of media celebrity than they are to hold a position in a responsible, effective government.

Annie is sort of a combination of Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman" and Princess Diana. A woman who appeals to those who get all gushy about somebody being elevated to a position completely at odds with their background and experience. Nice for movies and anachronistic monarchies, but silly bullshit in the real world. Or one would think.

Any previous Hillary supporter who now supports the McCain ticket because of Palin, should be taken out back of whatever fat farm they are attending, and beaten senseless with a heavily laminated copy of Roe vs. Wade.

How does McCain do it? Get Bush and Chaney to trash the markets, sink the Fannie and Franie, collapse a couple of century old investment houses then disappear. Now with Bush looking at water damage while the economy is going to hell in a hand basket, Chaney long gone, McCain can come on as the agent of change without being shackled to Bush. Are these guys clever or what? Somebody remind O'bama that he is running against McCain not Palin. Naw, they would have to redo all his scripts.

Anyone want to bet Biden steps aside so Hillary can run as the Dem VP?

[QUOTE=Doggboy]The common folk that Rock Harders refers to, often vote for candidates based on criteria that might be better used to "elect" a winner of "American Idol", rather than candidates who are more qualified to run the country.[/QUOTE]Dogg,

With all due respect, I was ROTFLMAO when I read this, given that it's largely because of the "elect a winner of American Idol" crowd that Obama is even a candidate.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Grshel1]How does McCain do it? Get Bush and Chaney to trash the markets, sink the Fannie and Franie, collapse a couple of century old investment houses then disappear. Now with Bush looking at water damage while the economy is going to hell in a hand basket, Chaney long gone, McCain can come on as the agent of change without being shackled to Bush. Are these guys clever or what? Somebody remind O'bama that he is running against McCain not Palin. Naw, they would have to redo all his scripts.[/QUOTE]Grshel1,

How exactly did McCain get "Bush and Chaney to trash the markets, sink the Fannie and Franie, collapse a couple of century old investment house"?

Did he use a pistol? Extortion? Bribery?

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Doggboy]Any previous Hillary supporter who now supports the McCain ticket because of Palin, should be taken out back of whatever fat farm they are attending, and beaten senseless with a heavily laminated copy of Roe vs. Wade.[/QUOTE]Hey Dogg,

By your standard, no member of this website should vote for ether candidate, because none of the candidates support prostitution. In fact, I'm pretty confident that all of the candidates are anti-prostitution.

No voter can find a candidate (or person) who agrees with them on every issue.

Thanks,

Jackson

Well Jax I'm pretty sure all the candidates [b]say[/b] they are anti-prostitution but McCain was in the Navy in Asia so the chances he never fucked any prostitutes seem slim to me and if he didn't he should have.

[QUOTE=Jackson]Dogg,

With all due respect, I was ROTFLMAO when I read this, given that it's largely because of the "elect a winner of American Idol" crowd that Obama is even a candidate.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Jackson, you ignorant ****.:)