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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chuponalgas
a little extra for the taxi, OK? Ifyou are feeling generou, one hour for 120USD including tip and taxi is a good rate. Some girls ask
I hope you meant 120 pesos an hour, not 120USD. I'm sure it's a typo.
I´ve only tried one internet girl ever. I called Camil who had been recommended on this list. I got the old bait and switch. She looked camil like, but unless they airbrushed out all the freckles on her body, it wasn´t her. The girl had a lot of attitude, but not in a good way. She just seemmed angry the whole session.
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I went to Neuvo Estilo tonight. It´s a fair distance away. It's to say the least, nondescript. The cabby couldn't find the address so I just asked him to let me off on the corner of the block. I found the address, but first thought that it was closed. Black facade with just a blue light shining along the window. I tried the door and was met by a receptionist. I paid the 15 pesos entrance which includes 1 drink. It's basically as previously described. Real casual bar hangout. When I got there, there were about 15 girls with a table of 7 guys. It was about 11:30. There were about 5 girls I would have liked to have a session with, but I just didn't know how to go about it. The guys were talking amongst themselves. The girls were talking amongst themselves. At the clubs, at least some of them try to make eye contact. In a new place, I try to see how the other guys approach the girls so that I figure out the protocol. A half an hour and one drink later, the only that had changed was that 4 other guys came in. Two sat in a corner table, two sat at the bar. Since the strip show was starting, I ordered another drink to watch it. It was good, but only lasted about 5 minutes. After that one of the guys at the table went over and talked to a girl. She came over to there table and sat for a while. Then she got up and talked to another girl and went back to the table of 7. After a few more minutes, she went back to a table of the other girls. The guy then went over to talk to the girl she had walked over to talk to. That girl joined them at their table. About 10 minutes later the guy and the girl went over to talk to the first girl. All three then went out the front door. I guess he arranged a double. They were only gone about 15 minutes. All three then came back and everyone applauded. By this time the place had filled up with guys. No more girls though. I decided t try my luck with one of them. As I approached from behind her, she got up and smiled and then walked away. Feeling like a fish out of water, I left. By this time there were a couple of bouncer types guarding the locked gate out front. It was open when I came in.
I went to Blacks just to browse. It´s still a den of hotties with prices to match. But even here a lot of the beauties I remembered are gone. There was this spectacular 20 year old blonde, but the last time I tried to arrange something with her she wouldn´t budge from 100 dollars an hour. Does anyone else think the blonde waitress that works at Blacks now, but used to work at Playwoman is hot?
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It's good to read about your exploits justgotback. I do think that you're being too shy. Don't hesitate to talk to these girls. There really isn't a right or wrong protocol in my humble opinion. These girls are not nuns. They know why you are at these clubs. Make the initiative and just talk to them or attempt to let them know you are interested in them. Too many times I'll see an American that is drooling over a hottie only to not make a move and then get pissed that he didn't try.
You type, "There were about 5 girls I would have liked to have a session with, but I just didn't know how to go about it". No reason not to score with one of those 5. Make the initiative.
Even in Black's one of my best friends was down on the place because he thought all of the girls were "cold". This one girl he thought was the hottest never even made eye contact with him. I went over and told her to sit with us. As soon as I did this she warmed up and he was so glad I did this. Don't be shy. He saw tons of girls and had his best session of the trip this this girl he initially thought was "cold".
As mentioned many, many times. Black's is another world as far as prices go. No one should be surprised at the prices girls ask here. It's simply not a surprise and all of us have pointed this out. If you see a hot girl you want to do then do her. If they won't budge from their initial price at least try to negotiate more time. Most will deal a little.
Yes, I think the waitress that use to work at Playwoman is a cutie. Not "escort hot" but pretty in a girl-next-door kind of way. I believe her name is Veronica. Very friendly girl.
The other thing that people need to keep in mind is to disregard any guy's rating system. Most of us have different tastes. A "10" to one guy is a "4" to another. Also, don't be afraid to use the internet girls. I had some of my best sessions with them. There are some true gems out there waiting to rock your world.
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Justgotback,
Doing business in Nuevo Estilo Boliche is just like anywhere else and in fact when I was there last year the girls were circulating and trying to make eye contact with you and in some cases coming and latching onto guys just like they do anywhere else. But it's really very simple: just go over to a girl you like and say "queres tomar algo conmigo?" And I'm sure she'll say something like "Si, como no" or "Por supuesto" and you're in, that simple. There will be little if any negotiating that you can do, they have fairly rigid, fixed pricing, like $100P or $150P for one hour including the room upstairs. You just walk outside and take two steps, then turn right and walk up a short flight of steps into their own private "albergue" and you're in. The girls will want to shower with you to make sure you're clean and most likely they'll only want to give you a covered bj but hey, there are some real gems to be found in that place. This is like the MacDonalds of sex in BA but both times I was there I had a great time.
Last year and the year before I stayed at the Golf Tower Hotel, a 5 minute walk up la Pampa toward Libertador from Nuevo Estilo. By the way, if you want to get there in a different way, get on the Subte and head towards Belgrano and get off at Juramento and either walk or take a cab from there. The Subte's really a great way to get around once you figure it out and if you think the cabs are cheap right now wait til you see how much cheaper the Subte is.
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BANDY, please post your email address or email me at LLLLLNNNNN@AOL.COM. Thanks, DownBA
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Buenos Aires dairy...eat your heart out Saint!!!
When Moondog is in town he usually sets up a dinner with other visiting hombres,and Adriana the Webmistress for Platynum and various other sites. Several weeks ago Dog and Adriana made reservations at Estilo Campo, a restaurant in Puerto Madero not far from Adriana s office.
Two weeks before the dinnner.
I like to make plans well in advance. So I had phoned a new amiga, Eliana, from the United States several weeks ago to set up a date for toda la noche. She told me her birthday was the night before, so we could continue the celebration. Bueno, I thought, this could be fun...
Thursday before the Friday night dinner
I phone Elians on Thursday to wish her happy birthday and to confirm our date....Her mother and sister were in town from Mendoza she informed me, so Friday was out....No problem, I thought...
I phone my ex favorita with whom I had spoken earlier in the week. She had told me she wanted to see me and talk about things. Without hesitation She accepted my offer to go out to
dinner and talk afterward....bueno.....
3 pm Friday, the day of the dinner
Just to be sure I phoned my ex favorita again at 3PM to confirm...no es posible, she informed me. Sick child. One of my ex s less enduring qualities is her lack of consideration for others...so had I not called she probably would have simply stood me up....no problem, I thought,
I have a short list of phone numbers from girls I want to see for the first or second time....no luck reaching any of the three, but I left two phone messages...something will turn up, I thought...
Friday 4 pm
Meanwhile, I headed over to Cafe Orleans at 4 PM to meet a group of hombres and check out possible dates....I met several nice guys, but the one chica I found attractive was already booked with Moondog for the evening....
Friday 6 pm
So, back to the hotel to try the chicas on my short list one more time....no luck....so at 6 I head to Cutty Sark, on of the few chica bars open early...no chicas, none, are at work....Julio, the bartender, just shrugs, and says maybe later....
Friday 8 pm
I go back to the hotel and take a nap....at 10 till 8 I still have not heard from the chicas with whom I have left a message, so I head back to Cutty Sark....determined to grab the first cute chica who shows up.....
4 girls have come on duty....10 guys are sitting in the bar...and not one of them is in a hurry to buy a drink for the 4 available girls, which should tell you something about their looks....none better than a 6, and that is with a very generous curve......
I sip my Cuba Libre and wait...dinner is at 8 30...it is now 8 15....and the restaurant is about a 10 minute cab ride away.....looks like my luck is running out, I am thinking while anxiously watching the door in the hope that the girl of my dreams will walk in....
At 8 40 Celeste saunters in...slim, youngish, girl next door type in her early 20s....just my type....not exactly the girl of my dreams, but she will do....what follows is the fastest pick up in the long and storied history of Cutty Sark....she walks by, still dressed in her street clothes...I stop her and ask her to share a drink with me...one drink is required, or <i would simply have grabbed her hand and said come on baby, we are going.....
Hi my name is ezy I tell her...Soy Celeste, she replies prepared to settle in for a get acquainted chat while I decide If I want to take her out for the evening....She must have been surprised when I said..that s nice, look I don t have time for much chit chat...I am late for a fiesta and want you to go with me as my date....I don t have time to negotiate...300 pesos, TLN, si or no....por supesto she says, and we head for the door...as we are leaving Gisella, one of my exs good friends walks in .....as I pass her I say...no soy un perro, es la culpa de su amiga...I am no dog, it is the fault of your girl friend that I am here frantically searching for a date....she busts out laughing....
Friday 9 pm. Celeste and I arrive about half an hour late...whew....Moondog asks how long we have known each other...5 minutes, I respond....a slight exaggeration since by this time I have know celeste for a good 17 minutes...good dinner, but Celeste worries me slightly when she tells me she is a good Catholoic with valores and is only doing this cause she needs the money...I ask if she can forget she is a good girl for this one night....her response is a sly grin.... we discuss my flight, and she tells me one of her fantasias is el sexo in the bathroom of a plane...Surprise, thats one of my fantasies too...and I add I also like to idea of el sexo in an elevator...turns out this is one of her other fantaises as well...As we are nearing time to leave, SF ******, seated to my left whispers that he has dropped his viagra on the floor and wonders if he can borrow some of mine. I have a 100mg tablet handy, so I place it on the table and cut it in half...my half goes sailing across the table and lands in the sauce surrounding my pink salmon....SF ****** grins as <i fish mine out of the sauce....
When I feel the effects of my viagra starting to kick in...I give Moondog enough pesos to cover my share of the dinner....and Celeste and I head back to Howard Johnsons....on the way she tells me she likes the idea of sex in a taxi tambien....and strokes me in just the right spot....we arrive at the hotel and while we did not have sex as Bill Clinton defines sex (blow jobs are not sex according to Bill) we did have a very nice ride to the 11th floor, with Celeste on her knees in front of me performing what felt like a sex act, regardless of what Bill says...
Celeste does a slow strip for me once we arrive in the room, followed by a very nice session
.....Celeste falls asleep and wakes with a start at 7....an hour after she told her ninera she would return...so a couple of quick photos and she is out the door.....and I have added a new phone number to my short list....
Sometimes when plans fall apart, what follows is a nice substitute.....
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DownBA
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Justgotback
How is your spanish? Places like Nuevo Estilo Boliche, you need to have some elementary command of spanish. That is a real local place and the girls hardly speak any english. In other clubs, you should start asking her name. I always enquire whether she is with somebody already. Otherwise, I offer her a drink, and things gets rolling from here. One thing, if it is too early in the evening, like 11:30 AM, you may not be successful to score with your lower bid. I tried to hit the club around 1 AM and started dealing around 2 AM and close the deal by 3 AM. I always try to stay in one club for the entire night as opposed to bar hopping. By 3 AM, panick sets in among both parties. Even in Black, I was propositioned by Claudia and Ivana, two Brazilian beauties, for a threesome around 3:30 AM. Ivana was the aggressive one who was detailing all the moves they will do to each other and on me. Claudia, having talked to me earlier that night, was feeling very shy. I expressed my surprise about her lesbianism and respectfully declined their offer saying that I got only one instrument and had I got a spare one I would have definitely been interested. In this game, you got to be aggressive. If one refuses, go to the next one. There are plenty of them you will be happy to go home with. Hope it helps.
Bandy
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Jodomas:
The suit I ordered in December 2001 was ready in less than 24 hours. The shirt I bougth didn't need to be tailored, but I know they make customized shirts. Usually, these places have 2 or 3 attendants idle, so when you go in you are the only customer. Thus, I understand why they prepare the orders so fast.
Andres
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Guys:
I don't recommend to walk from Juramento subway stop to Nuevo Estilo, at least not along La Pampa St. The park may be dangerous, so it's easy to be mugged.
A cab should be a few bucks from the subway stop. However, if in mood of walking, I would do so along Juramento or Sucre streets (parallel to and north of La Pampa St).
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Ezy,
Way to go amigo! Sounds like you're having fun. I wish you were still in town when I arrive next week. I would have loved to have shared some laughs with you. Oh well. I'm sure we'll talk more via emails and phone as always. Have fun and save some chicas for me!
Saint
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Justgotback,
You are absolutely right. In beauty scale, Violeta could be somewhere between 6 or 7. She is nowhere in the league of Andrea (Madaho) or Jovana (Black) regarding look. Also, the session was very ordinary. What made the experience memorable that she offered me to show around BA to make up for the lost time. These girls are ready to run once they get their money. Instead she was willing to somehow keep her end of the bargain. I always get attracted with educated girls. I feel quality of the level of conversations improve tremendously. And I am always a sucker for the total experience, where bedroom adventures play a secondary role. If I gave you an idea that Violeta was a beauty, I am sorry. The perfect 10, at Madaho is Andrea, go for her. You won't be sorry.
Bandy
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Hey Boys--
I spent three crazy weeks in Thailand (mainly Bangkok) and on December 13th, I am flying to BA to look for an apartment to purchase. (Recoleta or Palermo)
See my post on the Bangkok board--I was pretty shocked at how amazing the scene is there. It sort of blows BA away in certain respects. Still, however, I much prefer the idea of living in Argentina long term.
If any mongers are in BA around Dec 13th, lemme know via this board and we'll connect.
Also--if anyone is curious about the mongering scene in Bangkok (insofar as how it compares to BA, by all means, feel free to ask me any questions).
My BA count down is 20 days!
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I rode out on the subway earlier that day to see how far away it was from Estilo. It was walkable, but I was a little concerned about doing it in the middle of the night. I might just take a taxi from the station as someone suggested.
Does anyone know when Estilo opens? I fly out Monday night and I´m wondering if I can get some late afternoon action there?
My spanish is so so at best. I can speak enough to order at restrauants and negoitiate at clubs. But during the after session hour long converstations. I mainly just say ¨si si bueno¨.
I checked out Newport last night after I posted. Nothing to write home about. I was looking for Fabiona. The first time I was here she worked at Affaire, but the last time I was here I found her at Newport. Sadly, she wasn´t there last night.
I think I´ll go back to Madaho tonight. If that´s a wash I´ll go out to Estilo again and be more aggressive.
I found a little tiny out of the way tailor that´s selling Givency suits for 240 pesos. They´re probably fakes.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DownBA
[i]Justgotback,
either walk or take a cab from there. The Subte's really a great way to get around once you figure it out and if you think the cabs are cheap right now wait til you see how much cheaper the Subte is. [/i][/QUOTE]
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LA Larry
Just read your post RE: Bangkok.
You know I've been to Pattaya and Phuket many times, never Bangkok though.
All I can say is that Thai women have nothing on Argentian women. I want to keep this civil as I can, but that is my IHMO.
LOL.
It like comparing a Yugo to a Porche.
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Amazing tales of Saints and Sinners in BA - Part One
I've read the press about the kidnappings and street crime in Buenos Aires but so far I haven't experienced either in the week I have been mongering in BA.
I travel with some little very expensive by Argentine standards electronics, such as an Apple IPod and Canon digital camera, both worth about $300....and I have a more expensive and considerably larger laptop computer. All are kept in my room.
At the Hotel Etoile where I stay I like to show off the IPod with 1,000 songs and take some digital photos, usually before intimacy with the chica to break the ice and enjoy their wonder at seeing these marvellous devices. The result is I suspect a more GFE.
So far none of them have stolen anything but I am very careful what chica I take to my hotel with my possessions . I play it safe. if I have any qualms about a chica I take her to a 30 pesos short term (love) hotel, which are all over mongerlia.
Last night a group of mongers had dinner together in Puerto Madera, then separately went out into the night on the hunt. My posse of four, lead by Monger guide and chica wrangler ended up at a little known haunt for locals in Palermo Crocodile at 3:30
Crocodile is an after hours club, that starts to fill up at 4am chica time when the other clubs close. The stays open until 8am, when it is light outside. The Crocodile is where the chicas come that haven't got lucky at the other clubs, looking for a last ditch chance. Prices can go low accordingly, and Argentine mongers have been known to leave with a 7 or 8 for a mere 50 pesos (around $14US).
But be careful....the club is very crowded and some chicas press Mongers to the wall, grind crotch to crotch throwing the unsuspecting monger off-balance, then dip into pockets for a wallet. I was walking by a chica, a small innocent looking one of no more than five feet, when I felt two slim dexterous fingers in my pocket. Since my wallet is attached with a string to my belt (a money belt filled with ...well...folded bills) I wan't worried and gently removed the preying finger, scolding the wayward chica for her futile attempt.
I left Crocodile at 7am alone last night, since I didn't see anyone up to my standards.
(to be continued)