I heard that Obama has not paid taxes for over 10 years. However, Obama has no income. Obama doesn't know how to cash his welfare checks and Obama doesn't know how to fill out his food stamp application.
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I heard that Obama has not paid taxes for over 10 years. However, Obama has no income. Obama doesn't know how to cash his welfare checks and Obama doesn't know how to fill out his food stamp application.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 424888]I hope you woke up tonight and watched it.
Better yet buy the Series and Judge for Your self, Not these dumb f__kers BSers on this Site. Exon Where Are You?[/QUOTE]I'm open minded. I'll make a deal with you. I'll watch 3 episodes of the Newsroom if you'll watch 3 episodes of Stossel on Fox Business News network.
Do you seriously believe Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years? Do you believe anything a politician (like Harry Reid) tells you, as long as he's a democrat? If it comes out that Romney paid less than $10 million in taxes over the last 10 years, I'll contribute $1,000 to the Democratic National Committee.
[QUOTE=Tiny12; 424899]I'm open minded. I'll make a deal with you. I'll watch 3 episodes of the Newsroom if you'll watch 3 episodes of Stossel on Fox Business News network.
Do you seriously believe Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years? Do you believe anything a politician (like Harry Reid) tells you, as long as he's a democrat? If it comes out that Romney paid less than $10 million in taxes over the last 10 years, I'll contribute $1, 000 to the Democratic National Committee.[/QUOTE]Stossel rocks, one of my favorite shows. He is an awesome communicator for individual libery, and free markets. If you like Stossel, Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party) is likely the candidate closest to your views. Much better choice for those who want change than Romney, who is a country club Republican, and is for big government on so many issues (pro gun control, pro tarp, and the father of Romney / Obamacare)
[url]www.garyjohnson2012.com[/url]
Fred
[QUOTE=El Alamo;424853]Don't want to rain on your parade but Romney has about a 2 to 1 edge on handling the economy over Obama. Of course my dog Rocky would have a 2 to 1 edge over Obama on handling the economy.[/QUOTE]
USA Today/Gallup poll
July 19-22, 2012
n=1030
Candidate perceived as better on the economy:
Romney 51%
Obama 41%
Pew Research Center poll
June 28–July 9, 2012
n=2973
Which candidate would do the best job of improving economic conditions?
Obama 48%
Romney 42%
CNN poll
June 28-July 1, 2012
n=1517
Who would better handle the economy?
Obama 48%
Romney 47%
El Alamo "facts" turn out to be just more crap. Romney has usually led on this question, but not by a 2:1 margin. Some recent polls show Obama catching up. This trend will likely be sustained with the report of 172,000 private sector jobs created last month. El Alamo should stick to his Dennis Miller imitation, even his dog Rocky would agree.
[QUOTE=Big Boss Man;424858]Conservatives want to reverse all the Defense cuts that that Obama has already made.[/QUOTE]CORRECTION:
Congress (mainly House Republicans) are responsible for the defense cuts.
They're required by the Budget Control Act, which came about because Republicans insisted that any increase to the debt limit be matched dollar-for-dollar in spending cuts and reforms. I give them credit for that. Boehner was in talks with Obama on a grand $4 Trillion debt deal, but House Republicans pulled him away over their objections to any tax increases. Then the "Supercommittee" failed to negotiate a deal, triggering sequestration (automatic cuts), again due to Republican opposition to any tax increases. The cuts are actually a good, but small step (~ 10%) in reducing our bloated $700 Billion annual defense spending.
When you hear Republicans speak of "Obama's defense cuts", they are lying. When Romney refers to "Obama's massive defense cuts", he is telling a double lie.
[QUOTE=Esten; 424908]USA Today / Gallup poll
July 19-22, 2012.
And=1030.
Candidate perceived as better on the economy:
Romney 51%
Obama 41%
Pew Research Center poll.
June 28–July 9, 2012
And=2973.
Which candidate would do the best job of improving economic conditions?
Obama 48%
Romney 42%
CNN poll
June 28-July 1, 2012.
And=1517.
Who would better handle the economy?
Obama 48%
Romney 47%
El Alamo "facts" turn out to be just more crap. Romney has usually led on this question, but not by a 2:1 margin. Some recent polls show Obama catching up. This trend will likely be sustained with the report of 172, 000 private sector jobs created last month. El Alamo should stick to his Dennis Miller imitation, even his dog Rocky would agree.[/QUOTE]Dude, you can't post this shit and not accept my bet. I await your response. Monger On Dude. Toymann.
Ps. No threeways with Tres, you are not that open minded. LOL
Pps. As they say in my part of the world "put your money where you mouth is dude!". Enough said!
[QUOTE=Toymann;424865]The bet is still out there dude. Why not pony up? I am betting on Romney plus a GOP controlled senate after the November elections. If I am right on both I win. If you are right and the senate and Obomantion stay in place, YOU WIN. If it's a split decision either way, IT'S A PUSH. What say you dude, at the end of the day we can both afford to treat the other to a night at Madahos (lets say 2000 peso max). At the current blue rate, hell thats less than a 300 dollar bet.[/QUOTE]Even easier for you to win the bet. Only Romney has to win. We didn't talk details before, but I thought the focus was on the Presidential race. I'm just not following the Congressional races much and have much less interest in them.
I'll make a simple bet with you on who wins the Presidency. I win if Obama wins. You win if Romney wins. 2000 peso max night at Madahos.
Just say "Deal" and we are on buddy.
[QUOTE=Esten; 424913]Even easier for you to win the bet. Only Romney has to win. We didn't talk details before, but I thought the focus was on the Presidential race. I'm just not following the Congressional races much and have much less interest in them.
I'll make a simple bet with you on who wins the Presidency. I win if Obama wins. You win if Romney wins. 2000 peso max night at Madahos.[/QUOTE]With one sweetener. If the republicans win the senate, we start with a meal on YOU at Parilla Pena (with all the fixings and wine)! Just say DEAL and we on on like DONKEY KONG! Monger On Dude. Toymann.
Just say "Deal" and we are on buddy. Toymann
Eston you forgot one.
CSPR poll
Sept 15-18.
Who would better handle the economy?
Romney 79%
Rocky 18%
Obama 3%
By the way, the 3% who favored Obama were immediately committed to mental institutions as being a danger to themselves and society
My question to all who think MR is assured of victory is why? I am for anyone other than BO, but he is still leading in almost all the swing states and he already has a 30 electoral vote lead in the other states. Forget the national averages, as Al Gore found out, it is electoral votes that matter.
[QUOTE=Dccpa;424924]My question to all who think MR is assured of victory is why? I am for anyone other than BO, but he is still leading in almost all the swing states and he already has a 30 electoral vote lead in the other states. Forget the national averages, as Al Gore found out, it is electoral votes that matter.[/QUOTE]
Nothing is assured. Obama was likely to lose to McCain, up until the financial meltdown and McCain's poor handling of his campaign during that period.
I've gone on at length about the polls and the fact that they are crafted for an outcome not that they independently measure and expected outcome. So, I place little to no value in the polls. They are in large part creations of the left-leaning media to support their narrative in favor of a second (God save us) Oboma term.
As I have stated before, my belief that, were the election held today, Romney would win handily is based solely upon the fact that I can't see any constituency of any material size with which Obama has increased his popularity, since 2008. On the other hand, I can think of at least 6, major constituencies, with which he has lost considerable support. The 2008 election was much closer than the media portrayed it to be. The notion that people vote with their wallets, is generally accurate, in times when people are uncertain about their wallets.
I think that an equally relevant question is: "how could Obama possibly win a second term?"
For Obama to win a second term, he will have to overcome his complete lack of results, over the past 3. 5 years, results that cost the taxpayers $5T in additional debt. He never highlights specific achievements of his first term. He hasn't mentioned his legacy / signature legislative feat (Obamacare) , while on the campaign trail (because he knows it is hugely unpopular). He has perpetrated one of the greatest "bait 'and Switch" frauds in history. He promised civility, transparency and post racial politics. He has delivered the exact opposite. He has proven himself to be a bigoted, marxist ideologue who acts capriciously and spitefully with no regard for those who may be harmed by his actions. He has sold out some of our key allies and has weakened the nation in virtually every aspect of national security and the projection of strenght, internationally. Additionally, he will have to overcome the dismal state of the economy, rampant, long-term unemployment, record foreclosures, tight credit markets and the fact that to the public, there is no foreseeable change (I. E. Recovery) under an Obama second term. To wish these factors away, in the key "swing states," is pure folly. They are hurting every bit as much as the rest of us.
If voters ask themselves: "Am I better off than I was four years ago?" The answer will be a vote for Romney with a majority of the nation.
If voters ask themselves: "Is the America that Obama envisions the same America that I envision?" The answer will be a vote for Romney with a majority of the nation.
If voters ask themselves: "Who is more likely to lead us out of this morass? The guy who has proven to be ineffectual and has made matters worse or anyone else?" The answer will be a vote for Romney with a majority of the nation.
Other than that, it's a toss-up.
The outcome of this election can be predicted with a mathmatical certainty by evaluating the make up of the voting population.
50% of the population is below the IQ of a moron.
The other 50% has an IQ higher than a moron.
Given that all morons will vote for Obama and all non morons will not vote for Obama, on the surface, it looks like a dead heat.
The variable that dooms Obama is that Obama supporters, being morons, frequently pull the wrong lever.
Here are some factors to consider about the upcoming election.
Several of the swing states have Republican governors, their state debt has either been reduced or they are running a surplus, unemployment is below the national average and they have employed the same economic strategies Romney will use – ie reduced spending, cutting programs, smaller government – showing it really does work.
Romney has raised more cash for each of the last three months than Obama, while Obama is spending more on his campaign than he has coming in. Maybe he really believes his own B / S about spending and will have nothing left come October. We can only hope.
Obama's rallies are sliding, in 2008 they SOLD seats to the rallies but in 2012 they are worrying about filling the venues.
Last but not least is the Oprah Winfrey factor, Oprah is no long enamored with Michelle and Barak Obama and has decided to sit this one out as far as lending her considerable personal appeal, financial backing and television reach to his campaign. Oprah's OWN network is not doing well and she no longer has the reach she did in 2008.
Obama has done everything he can to distract the public from his lack of accomplishments, dismal unemployment record and near stalling economy. Instead he has attempted to tarnish Romney for the last three months and the polls, even the liberal ones, show the race is still tight after all the B / S indicating this tactic has been a failure.
Now exactly what do you think is going to happen after the conventions and Romney brings Jobs, the Economy and our lack of Standing in the world community to the campaign?
By the way Snake, did you see the report Ernest & Young published regarding Obama's tax the rich idea. The short version is it would further wreck the economy. Snake, I thought these were you buddies who were giving you all the dirt on Romney, how did this one slilp past you?
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 424929]Here are some factors to consider about the upcoming election.
Several of the swing states have Republican governors, their state debt has either been reduced or they are running a surplus, unemployment is below the national average and they have employed the same economic strategies Romney will use – ie reduced spending, cutting programs, smaller government – showing it really does work.
Romney has raised more cash for each of the last three months than Obama, while Obama is spending more on his campaign than he has coming in. Maybe he really believes his own B / S about spending and will have nothing left come October. We can only hope.
Obama's rallies are sliding, in 2008 they SOLD seats to the rallies but in 2012 they are worrying about filling the venues.
Last but not least is the Oprah Winfrey factor, Oprah is no long enamored with Michelle and Barak Obama and has decided to sit this one out as far as lending her considerable personal appeal, financial backing and television reach to his campaign. Oprah's OWN network is not doing well and she no longer has the reach she did in 2008.
Obama has done everything he can to distract the public from his lack of accomplishments, dismal unemployment record and near stalling economy. Instead he has attempted to tarnish Romney for the last three months and the polls, even the liberal ones, show the race is still tight after all the B / S indicating this tactic has been a failure.
Now exactly what do you think is going to happen after the conventions and Romney brings Jobs, the Economy and our lack of Standing in the world community to the campaign?
By the way Snake, did you see the report Ernest & Young published regarding Obama's tax the rich idea. The short version is it would further wreck the economy. Snake, I thought these were you buddies who were giving you all the dirt on Romney, how did this one slilp past you?[/QUOTE]Jackson has been deleting everything I post in this thread. As such, I am not going to bother formulating a response only to have it deleted shortly thereafter.
Its sad the republican choice for president. When he loses there will be many explanations but the bottom line he just is not a viable choice