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Amazing tales of Saints and Sinners in BA - Part Two
The next day I ran into Fat Bastard and BA Robert, feasting on a five dollar lunch of mad cow and seemingly suffering the early symptoms of hoof and mouth disease.
I immediately ordered chicken to save myself a similar fate when Fat Bastard's cellphone rung, After chatting on the phone with another monger Donald, whom we met at the dinner the night before Fat Bastard related that Donald was now $1,300 poorer, not a large amount stateside but enough in Buenos Aires to spend quality time with 26 chicas!
This is unconfirmed and we all await further developments but apparently he had rented a private apartment to entertain a chica that evening. The chica appeared to be in the saint category except for some noctural moral lapses but the maid "possibly" cut from a different cloth. in the morning he went to check his stash of Franklin's in the kitchen and withdraw a small sum from his make shift bank. Upon returning he was $1,300 poorer, apparantly the maid had cleaned him out.
A bit shaken from this revelation, the first account so far of a monger victimized.
Upon retuning to my room at the Hotel Etoile I opened the door to find two maids and several of the front desk staff in the bedroom of my suite. One held a Franklin in his hand, and another pointed to three Franklins on the floor beside my bed.
I put "most" of my cash in the hotel safe box in the lobby but one day i forgot to put $400 in the box, so hide it under a table beside my bed. Apparently the maid had lifted up the table to clean beneath and discovered my hidden treasure. She immediately called down to the front desk, to inform them of her discovery and they had arrived to safely remove the money and return it to me.
Maids in Argentina make about $150 a month, about as much as a chica makes in two nights. Say no more, in this tale of Saints and Sinners.
I look forward to leaving a far larger tip then usual for the saints and angels that clean my room and watch over me at the Etoile while I go out in the night to monger until dawn.
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Justgotback, An Argentinian guy sitting next to me on the plane ride home told me Estilo Nuevo Boliche is apparently open as early as 4 PM....I didn't know this as I usually went there at 11 PM or later and always found nice talent. Remember not to by shy, these chicas won't bite you, er, well, they might bite you a little if you like that sort of thing. In the daytime I wouldn't hesitate to walk from the train station although it's probably a good two miles, at night I wouldn't risk it. But remember that you can also take one of the Colectivo Busses down Libertador and get off at La Pampa and then the walk to Estilo is maybe 1/2 mile at most. But hey, from la Recoleta the cab ride might cost 10 pesos tops or U$2 and change, not too bad. I could really get used to this lifestyle. DownBA
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LA Larry
[i]Hey Boys--
I spent three crazy weeks in Thailand (mainly Bangkok) and on December 13th, I am flying to BA to look for an apartment to purchase. (Recoleta or Palermo)
See my post on the Bangkok board--I was pretty shocked at how amazing the scene is there. It sort of blows BA away in certain respects. Still, however, I much prefer the idea of living in Argentina long term.
If any mongers are in BA around Dec 13th, lemme know via this board and we'll connect.
Also--if anyone is curious about the mongering scene in Bangkok (insofar as how it compares to BA, by all means, feel free to ask me any questions).
My BA count down is 20 days! [/i][/QUOTE]
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"If you have never been to BBK then I heartily recommend it to all mongers. I can't believe that I am saying it--but BBK beats Buenos Aires for the sheer expereince. " - LA Larry, from the BBK forum....
What's up with LA Larry? Has he gone MAD!!!! How can he dare to compare BBK favorably with Buenos Aires??????
He is so wrong and misguided. I'm sure he will repent in 21 days!!!!
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Great tales jamesbond69. Yes, there are truly some "saints" in Buenos Aires to look over us. I've found the people of Buenos Aires to be very honest. Even a girl from Black's one day saw that my friend dropped 200 pesos and gave them to him.
LA Larry. I didn't read your Bankok report and probably won't. I have zero interest in Asian women. It's all a matter of personal taste. If I had the choice to pay for a $1000 ticket to BA, $75 US a night in hotels or someone offering a free flight and hotel in BBK, I'd still choose to go to Buenos Aires.
Sometimes more is really more.......
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Saint, having been to Bangkok I agree with your assessment. Well if it was free .... BA is still great, but since the quality has dropped from a few months ago. Iīm lowering it from 2nd to 4th on my personal list and itīs quickly headed toward 5th.
Jamesbond, I think you were the guy with the loose franklins at Etoile. Each Etoile room has a safe. Itīs that metal box in the closet that looks broken. Itīs just missing the lock. I didnīt realize this my first couple of times, but all you have to do is go downstairs and theyīll give you the lock for it. Just keep your valuables in there. Having said that, I personally have not had any problems at Etoile. I used to leave my money, passport, etc just sitting in a drawer. I trust the staff there.
Whereīs this crocidile club?
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This is a great board. I read a lot and learned a lot. Thanks.
Just came back from a great trip to BA, my first as a monger. I met another poster the first night, which helped, thanks DMOHIO. My Spanish is decent, but it helps to have
My hotel - Hotel Dolmen, was 1-1/2 blocks from the clubs on Suipacha (Hook, Ness, & Catttos). I reserved thru Mayri at arentinogo.com. She was VERY helpful.
Hotel Dolmen, Suipacha, just off Sante Fe - US$50 per nite, tax included, buffet breakfast, 4 dinner vouchers for 2, pool, gym, sauna, 24 hour free internet off the lobby. Discrete & chica friendly (but only 1 at a time)!
I've been to Costa Rica many times and love the women there. But the BA women have totally blown my mind. They are classy, elegant, etc. . . . I guess you guys know that.
Went to Hook, Ness, & Catttos. Good luck in all 3. Drink costs are reasonable. Hook had a lot of women the night I was there.
In Recoleta, I liked Madaho's best. But all the clubs work at some level, or just move on.
I met EZY my last night. We tried several downtown clubs (not on Suipacha), fun night, but somehow we ended up at Afaire in Recoleta.
EZY, that last girl I was talking to, Marcela, was begging me to take her home for 100P. I was hesitating as you left, but she talked me into it. OK face, but tiny body (my favorite), no boobs, lots of energy. I took some photo's on Wed. She's getting a boob job Monday. She'll be back in action Thursday (she says - I don't think so). Then she's going to Reyonsa, Mexico (Texas border town) to make more money.
As my trip was coming to a close, United offered more great fares ORD-EZE. So I booked another trip. I'll be home 5 days and then try to do even better.
I arrive Wed, Nov 27, and would like to hook up with others. I'd like to try some internet contacts or other afternoon options. Email me at danmccarthy99@hotmail.com to compare notes or search for more adventures.
Again, thanks for all the great advice.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by justgotback
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Jamesbond, I think you were the guy with the loose franklins at Etoile. Each Etoile room has a safe. Itīs that metal box in the closet that looks broken. Itīs just missing the lock. I didnīt realize this my first couple of times, but all you have to do is go downstairs and theyīll give you the lock for it. Just keep your valuables in there. Having said that, I personally have not had any problems at Etoile. I used to leave my money, passport, etc just sitting in a drawer. I trust the staff there.
Whereīs this crocidile club? [/i][/QUOTE]
I'll post info and address of the Crocodile Club in a later post, and other of my discoveries of the estimated 100 chica clubs in BA. For now let's just say that I regard the Crocodile Club as a complete waste of valuable Monger time.
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I knows most rooms in the Etoile have in room safes but some of the Diplomatic suites don't have in safe in the room, such as the Diplomatic Suite I am staying in. I left all my valuables in the safe in the lobby except for four Franklins, which I hide for the night in the room. I didn't count on the maid doing such a good job cleaning that she would lift up the furniture and discover my stash....but as I said the hotel staff is as honest as they come and I didn't lose a penny.
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BA MONGER TIP #1 - How not to sleep with someone's mother.
Probably the majority of the chicas are single mothers. I personally have a problem with having sex with someone's mother; other mongers feel the same way while some (most) could care less. A few will even mount a sheep if it doesn't cost them too much and certainly if the sheep doesn't charge.
If this is a problem for you I recommend that you look around the necks of the chicas. In Argentina (and maybe other places) a chica with a child will wear a gold necklace that has a small charm for each of her children with their name(s). I was about to make the move on a chica that looked no more than twenty two years old but passed when I realized she was wearing five charms in her necklace.
Women certainly have lots of children down here, unfortunatley most have more than they can afford.
BA MONGER TIP #2 - How I deal with the "sex for money" issue.
1. The market price ranges from 100 to 200 pesos. Anything over that is above market, even for a solid "10". I always stay with in that range, even at Blacks.
2. My high price to leave with a chica is 150 pesos. I always pay after the deed, never before. Never has a chica insisted on payment up front and never has a chica asked me for payment after the deed. I always walk up to her and hand her the money.
3. If a chica asks for less than 100 I naturally accept glad but tip 100 pesos.
4. I never give "taxi" money.
5. I've always have GFE, although sometimes more GFE than other times, just as it is with my "amateur' girlfriends.
6. I actually ALWAYS pay 200 pesos, no matter if I leave with the chica for 100-125- 150 pesos. With the devaluation and four years of recession the economic situation is dire now in Argentina and I can't in good conscious as a relatively prosperous North America pay less for than 200 pesos service for these wonderful women who seem to enjoy me as much as I do.
7. Of course if I received poor services I wouldn't pay a cent more, but so far this has never happened. The service couldn't be better. So far I always have DATY, usually BBBJ and always great coitus, with little "hurry up and finish" on the part of the chica. Short 1 1/2 hours sessions can extend all night with any additional request for payment. Business sometimes gives way to pleasure.
8. I never insist on doing something that the chica doesn't want, such as anal, spanking, etc. Since I'm not kinky this is never a problem.
9. I don't monger to dominate or humiliate women or myself, nor prove how long my cock is. I genuine love having sex with the women I am with and they seem to enjoy it as much as I do.
10. I can't tell you how much good will my "vendis operati" creates with the chicas. I'm down here for a full month and return to the same clubs over and over. The chicas who I have gone with run up to me in the clubs and some even offer me a freebie if they are not busy with another customer. Naturally I always take them up on their offer but slip them 200 pesos any way after mission accomplished.
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BKK or BA. I visit BA several times a year and BKK once or twice a year. My normal visit to BA is one or two nights while BKK is about 10 days. Only reason I visit BA more often is proximity to the US. I find the quality of the girls in BA to be much higher than in BKK but the treatment from the girls in BKK is more nicer, more girlfriend like. The Thai women, by culture, have to satisfy the men while the Latin women is more liberated.
IMHO BKK has the edge because they have perfected certain experiences that every man should try at least once in their lifetime. Experiences like choosing a girl from a fishbowl, a soapy, an oil masage, etc...
For the nonadventureous traveler Argentina might be their destination of choise since it is a developed country to the standards of the US or Europe and Thailand is a third world country.
jodomas
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JamesBond, great post but I just want to add that I've had some of my absolute best sessions with young mothers in BA, one notably named Silbana over at Estilo Nuevo, another named Gabriela just last week in la Recoleta. So I'd recommend loosening up on that standard a little bit and I genuinely think you're going to have your world rocked one day by a chica who says she can't stay past 6 am because she's gotta return to little one. DownBA
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Great post Jamesbond. I agree with virtually all of it except the "mother thingy". I agree with DownBA. In fact, some of the girls you've already seen that claim to, "have no children" might in fact have children. Some of the girls know that some guys don't like a girl that has kids so they just lie.
Kids no kids. Makes no difference to me. To me it's the equivalent of a chica saying she avoids married men because she doesn't want to sleep with 'someone's husband'. We're all consenting adults. It's all about having fun and not getting too wrapped up over details sometimes. BA is a good place to let loose and relax.
If you're in BA for any length of time or plan on going back it pays to be a gentleman. Many of these girls have good memories. They often talk with other girls and compare notes on EVERYTHING about you. These girls have loose lips.
Just have fun. Life is good.
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Fellas,
Believe me this is not meant to incite a flame war about Buenos Aires vs. Bangkok. I only wanted to clue in those (like myself) who thought that BA was the "be all end all" at the present moment. (Christ, I'm going to be buying an apartment in BA soon!).
When mongering--I have two goals:
1) To find a glamorous, LA/Las Vegas, stripper-like girl (ie. a woman with a downright perfect body, shaved beaver, perfect tits (fake or not), perfect hair, nails, teeth, etc. (I want to find a perfect ten, a perfect porn-star----a lofty goal--wouldn't you say?).
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2) Where ever I am, Argentina, Thailand or Russia--I enjoy experiencing a real connection with the girls. Despite the fact that I am paying for it--there have been several instances where the gal I was with--threw "caution to the wind" and really let herself go (probably acting) but at least I was made to believe that she was having the time of her life, both in the sack and out.
So--
let me be perfectly clear when I say that the vast majority (there are thousands upon thousands of girls in BBK peddling their asses) do NOT interest me in the slightest. BUT there are easily 500-1000 girls in BBK that have very WESTERN FEATURES--I dare say some of them look like latinas! (I have scored mixed race girls who had Philipino, and American blood). This small "handful" of 500-1000 girls are the cream-de-la cream of Bangkok--and all of mongering the world over. I'm talking about statuesque, busty porn stars with beautiful faces, tits, asses, etc. This small percentage of elite Bangkok girls would be considered the very best specimens in strip clubs of LA and places like Blacks in BA.
Now here's the rub--
When you find one of these incredible creatures (amongst the thousands and thousands of (average to unattractive) looking girls clogging the streets of Bangkok) YOU WILL BE SHOCKED BY THE INCREDIBLE SERVICE YOU RECEIVE.
In Buenos Aires, the girls generally provide good-to excellent service--BUT IN MOST CASES: they are on the clock and they are out the door after they've serviced you TWO TIMES (unless you negotitated for Toda La Noche)
But Thai girls are a different animal!
Granted--I was staying in a Hefner like, luxury tower (called the (CenterPoint Silom)--so that had a certain amount to do with it--but JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY--these Thai girls (for the total price of 2000-2500 baht (40baht = 1 US Dollar) humped me silly, everyway possible until the cows came home. The next day they would bring me presents of cologne and candy....THAI GIRLS are looking for Western Husbands and will do everything to prove that they are worthy for your consideration. They practically "prostrate" themselves before you, kneeling down and bowing. They massage your back eagerly between rounds, they cuddle--in short they put on an Oscar worthy perfomance. [Best of all--they speak passable English! I enjoy pillow talk and after awhile in Argentina my Spanish tires, and I can only think in English. I was thrilled to discover that the majority of Thai girls can "confabulate" in my mother tongue.]
Morevover, they all offer to come back the next day "for free" Of course, in the back of their minds--they are now going after bigger game--and the are shooting for a wedding ring or some kind of renumeration--but the fact remains that these incredible sex machines visted me for regular dates. I took one to the Oriental Hotel for Steaks and then squired her back to my apartment, humped the stuffing out of her ears for 5 hours (thanks viagra) and then asked her to leave (she would have stayed forever). I tried to pay her (really I did) but she began to tear up. "You think that I am a bad girl" she groaned. I counterd, "we did meet in a go-go bar, and I paid you the other night!" She became furious and went on the explain that "now is different and that as long as I want her, she won't work anymore". This was an aburd scene and I stuffec the cash into her hands, and politely hustled her out the door.
But it illustrates my point--you get "off the scale" girlfriend-like, pornstar experience in thailand. SERVICE that you would be hard-pressed to find in BA. (Although, from what I've read about Brasil, it seems like such service is possible there).
I'll end this by addressing Saint's preference against Asian girls. (I agree that most Asian girls are not to my taste, BUT every so often I open Penthouse or Playboy and I will see a spread of an incredible Asian goddess and she transcends my tastes.
Beleive me you can find that girl in BBK--and she will jump through hoops for you. She isn't easy to find. It might take all of two nights to dig her up. But when you find her, you will understand why Thai girls are probably the best mongering "partners" in the world.
(Lastly, BBK doesn't hold a candle to the rest of BA--the climate, the traffic, the pollution, the chaos--all add up to burn out...Whereas Buenos Aires is a dream city in virtually all respects).
That's it for me. I agree to disagree and only posted this to aprise my brother's who are interested in sampling the fruits of Thailand.
I'll see everyone on December 13th!
Viva Argentina (and Thailand!)
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I started last night by going to Madaho. I got there at about 12:30 but the weekend drought is in effect. For those who have never been here, the weekends suck compared to the weekdays. Iīve asked the girls about this and they say that both the clients and the girls have to spend time with their families during the weekends. A lot of the girls are moms and I donīt think they want to brush off their kids on the weekends. I stayed for about an hour waiting for one of the two hotties from the night before, but they didnīt show. At least the one girl who always lashes onto me finally took the hint and didnīt try this time.
Then I took a taxi to Neuvo Estilo. No drought here. The same girls were here as the night before. I got there in time to see a bachelor get gang stripped and put on a table by his buddies. There was a english speaking first timer there. He was in front of me when I was waiting to pay at the front door. Was it someone from this forum? I donīt see the casual tourist wandering into this place. I decided to make a quick move this time. I went up to this girl I was eyeing the other night. Sheīs no raving beauty, but the pretty young girl next door type. She remembered me from the night before. She even pointed out where I was sitting. I bought her a drink and we sat back and watched the strip show. I didnīt notice before, but the strippers are just girls that work there. She had only been working there a month. She said she used to work at a club on P. Quintana which runs through Recoleta. So thereīs another club to be on the look out for. The prices are fixed. There for 20 minutes, 45 minutes and 1 hour. I thought I agreed to an hour for 150 pesos, but I must have errantly said si to 20 minutes because she only asked for 80 pesos when we got to the cabina. The downside to a brothel is the time limit. Before I knew it, there was the knock on the door saying time was up. She told me I had a few minutes left but I donīt work well under pressure. I just paid for another 20 minutes. She looked like the innocent girl next door downstairs, but once we got to the cabina she was an animal. Very sweet. I give this place a thumbs up with a couple of caveats. The time limit and BJs are covered. I asked when they are opened and was told between 9pm and 5am. Havannaman, this is another option for you when you arrive. Total cost 160 (2 20 min sessions) + 25 for entrance and the girlīs drink. You donīt have to buy the girl a drink if you really want to be cheap. But itīs only 5-10 pesos depending on what she orders. Another plus is that additional beers are 5 pesos as opposed to 20 in the Recoleta clubs. I hope we donīt ruin it by flooding it with tourists. It really is local. Oh, hailing a cab afterwards is a pain. Most of the ones you see are occupied this far out from the center. I tried for about 10 minutes before a couple of kids came up to me with orange vests on. They got one for me in about 30 seconds. I gave them a couple of pesos.
If youīve made it this far, Iīd like to reinterate my comment about the prices at the Recoleta craft market. I browsed yesterday and was planning to buy somethings for Xmas. Later that day, I found the same stuff from the street vendors along Florida street for less than half the cost. The things I would by at Recoleta are the paintings. Theyīre cheap for the quality.
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Hey Guys,
I will be in BA on 29 and 30 November. If the mongers are going to meet the night of the 29th at Hotel Etoille and I would like to join. I have been to BA before but I had not read this great forum for info. I know where the clubs are in Recoleta but where is this new place everyone is now going to called Nuevo Estilo. Where is it located (what district?) and what is the address? Will the taxi drivers know how to get there? Any other info would be apprieciated.
Also is there a website or sites for any of the clubs in BA. Are there any clubs like the termas in RIO. Thanks for the help.
astroglide
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Astroglide, Estilo Nuevo isn't sounding so nuevo anymore, hahahaha. It's located on la Pampa between Cazadores and Figueroa Alcorte, actually it's virtually on the corner of Figueroa Alcorte and la Pampa. It's in Belgrano, so just tell the cabbie "La Pampa y Figueroa Alcorte en Belgrano, por favor" also just add "Estilo Nuevo Boliche" and that ought to do the trick as most of the cabbies know the place anyway. When I was being driven to Hotel Golf Tower just up the road on la Pampa for the first time, the cabbie pointed out the place and told me that was a good place "para coger". So I do believe a lot of cabbies know the place. Fun place, you can shoot a game of pool or watch the chicas strip or both and all in a very relaxed, local atmosphere.
Justgotback, not only did I get an uncovered bj from Silvana, she got down on her knees in the shower and didn't stop til we were dried off in bed, so I guess this is another example of ymmv. I suppose the girls use their senses and their judgment and I don't think there's necessarily a house rule that calls for covered bj only so don't fret it, try another hottie there. I saw a groom get gang stripped too, pretty funny stuff. This is the type of place you take your buddies to the night before they get married to make sure they're sent off with a bang.
Now I'm really brimming with pride seeing so many of you mongers in Mongolia follow my suggestion and check out this fun place!!! Happy mongering guys, DownBA
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justgotback:
The club at Pte. Quintana is Shampoo.
Andres
