American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Sidney]I correctly surmised that no liberal ''elitist'' would dare to compare Obomba (sic) to Lugar! And he is from the flyover state of IN![/QUOTE]Sydney, old sport,

I doubt anybody gave it much thought. Was there a point to make there that someone who [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] from Illinois (I. E. Someone privy to the working of the mid-western mind) would understand?

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Oh boy! The mail works. Arrived today that Absentee Official Ballot from the Department of Elections. Now I can get to work and straighten out this mess in the Washington. What's this John McCain / Sarah Palin at the top of the Federal section? - age deference no doubt. Ahhh, there they are Barack Obama / Joe Biden right there between Ralph Nader (Hall of Shame) and Bob (the Inquisitor) Barr. What the hell it's a free country, right? And just below under United States Representative the delicious choice between Cindy Sheehan and Nancy Pelosi. Cindy would not of taken Impeachment "off the table" for GWB. Tough choice, tough choice. Awk, what's this? They actually added my ballot initiative - All US citizens who voted for George Bush twice in the past 8 years go straight to Guantanamo for the rest of their natural lives. Followed by giving Guantanamo back to Cuba. Check!

Get yours, just 45 days and a wake up.

[QUOTE=Sidney]That you don't understand![/QUOTE]Syd, if I can call you Syd, old sport,

Thanks for clearing that up.

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]Elation at the prospect that maybe this time the American public will pick a candidate with a brain full of ideas, political skills and a plan[/QUOTE]Hi Bacchus9,

If the Democrats had nominated such a canadiate instead of an American Idol contestant, I'd be worried, but I'm not.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]All US citizens who voted for George Bush twice in the past 8 years go straight to Guantanamo for the rest of their natural lives.[/QUOTE]Hi Bacchus9,

Why would you equate American Citizens who legally exercised their right to vote with the murderous Islamic terrorists who attacked our troops and are now being justifiably held in an American Military prison?

Or is this something I don't understand because I don't watch CNN?

Thanks,

Jackson

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"[i]It must be nice being an appeaser. You get to muddle along with your head in the sand while other good people, in the process of keeping the world safe for themselves, will inadvertently keep it safe for you too.[/i]"

[QUOTE=Jackson]Hi Bacchus9,

Why would you equate American Citizens who legally exercised their right to vote with the murderous Islamic terrorists who attacked our troops and are now being justifiably held in an American Military prison?

Or is this something I don't understand because I don't watch CNN?

Thanks,

Jackson.

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"[I]It must be nice being an appeaser. You get to muddle along with your head in the sand while other good people, in the process of keeping the world safe for themselves, will inadvertently keep it safe for you too.[/i]"[/QUOTE]Tell that to the German citizen that was kidnapped by the CIA because his name matched somebody on the watch list who was taken to Guantanamo and held for a few years. He lost his family, they thought he was dead.

Daddy went out to buy a razor and didn't come home for a couple years. Because his name matched somebody on the watch list and he had a few different kinds of money in his pocket. Living in Europe who knows why he would do that.

Before you say it, he was a Turk not a jihadist, just a guy supporting a family who's life was destroyed by our government.

I know this won't even cause you pause and I'm sure you will justify it with some inane comment that somehow this makes us safer personally I find it embarrassing that a country founded on the idea of freedom could do this one let alone hundreds of times.

Your views of the candidate will not change anyone else's views. I wish you would spend that time:

-Educating us on investing in this crazy environment. You are one of the more knowledgible guys on this board.

-Talking about the dominican republic--I really enjoy some of your postings.

-Talking about woman, resturants or about your experience as an investment professional, but.

New Republlican strategy: Privative profits, socialize losses.

You know Obama didn't say that.

It's satire written by syndicated columnist John Semmens, whose columns are posted on the Web site The Arizona Conservative.

Here is the link:

[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/459/[/url]

[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/169/[/url]

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""""""""" Obama e-mail: It's not The Real Thing.

Pants on fire!

Opponents of Barack Obama seem to have found a new reason to dislike him: he wants the national anthem to be an old Coca-Cola jingle.

Well, not really, but that's the rumor that's going around. Although it seems ridiculous on its face, we heard from enough PolitFact readers who wondered if it was true that we decided to do a little digging. What we found was another example of satire being mistaken for the truth.

A widely circulated chain e-mail attributes the following quote to Barack Obama:

"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides," Obama said. "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all? It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it."

But Obama never said it. It's satire written by syndicated columnist John Semmens, whose columns are posted on the Web site The Arizona Conservative. The above quote was part of a short item Semmens wrote in October 2007, imagining a rationale for the oft-emailed photo of Obama not having his hand over his heart during the national anthem. (We wrote about the anthem issue previously here, which was part of a chain email falsely claiming Obama refused to say the pledge of allegiance.

The copies of the email we've collected have a familiar trick: They claim to be forwarded from a retired military officer. But the unattributed quote is clearly taken from Semmens' column.

This is not the first time a conservative commentator's make-believe quote has been attributed to Obama in emails as if he really said it. In February, we reviewed this one, in which Obama was supposed to have said he liked America but wanted to change it.

We asked Semmens what he thought about his work taking on a new life on the Internet.

"The quotes are a creative take on possible unexplained rationales for public actions," he wrote in an email to us. "They are not actual recountings of what Sen. Obama has publicly said. Whether they do or don't reveal an inner truth is a matter of opinion."

A spokesman for the Obama campaign called the chain email "clearly false." We call it Pants on Fire!

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Regards,

BM.

ps. tell your " best mongering friends " nice try.