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[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;424930]Jackson has been deleting everything I post in this thread. As such, I am not going to bother formulating a response only to have it deleted shortly thereafter.[/QUOTE]Not only are you a wild-ass liberal shill dude BUT also an idiot. You mean the moderator is moderating YOU since YOU called him out as a "racist". Really, no way! What a prickly jerk he must be! I can hardly believe you are being subjected to such unfair treatment. IALOTFLMAO! Dumb, ignorant and stupid is no way to go through life fella! LMAO Toymann
[QUOTE=Kevins;424931]Its sad the republican choice for president. When he loses there will be many explanations but the bottom line he just is not a viable choice[/QUOTE]However, like many liberals (notice I didn't say wild-ass) , he just doesn't see the tsunami coming. I'll buy ya a cold one in November to console you dude. Monger On Kevin. Toymann.
Ps. Waiting for my bet confirmation Esten. This should be fun!
'Jackson has been deleting everything I post in this thread. As such, I am not going to bother formulating a response only to have it deleted shortly thereafter. ' comrade snakeoilsales.
I knew there was something I liked about Jackson. Jackson is protecting us from absurd posts that induce migraine headaches. The human mind has a limit to how much nonsense it can endure
[QUOTE=Toymann; 424917]With one sweetener. If the republicans win the senate, we start with a meal on YOU at Parilla Pena (with all the fixings and wine)! Just say DEAL and we on on like DONKEY KONG! Monger On Dude. Toymann.
Just say "Deal" and we are on buddy. Toymann[/QUOTE]No deal, no sweeteners especially the one-sided kind! Just a simple bet on the presidential race. Though if we are in town at the same time I am definately up for dinner.
[QUOTE=Kevins;424931]Its sad the republican choice for president. When he loses there will be many explanations but the bottom line he just is not a viable choice[/QUOTE]I believe the most common explanation for Romney's defeat will be that he was a Wall Street guy.
[QUOTE=Esten;424942]No deal, no sweeteners especially the one-sided kind! Just a simple bet on the presidential race. Though if we are in town at the same time I am definately up for dinner.[/QUOTE]WE ARE ON LIKE DONKEY KONG. Let the games begin. I will not be in Argentina in November BUT will be back after my fall trip in the spring. Mid-March to mid-April. We'll try to connect in March / April. I know you will be good for it, so start saving now. In fact, when I win the bet I'll buy dinner at parilla pena. How's that for non-partisan politics. Monger on Dude. Toymann
ps. I do find it interesting Esten that your actions confirm my position that the senate wil go GOP. Very interesting! Very interesting!
I sort of get the gist of things now. Democrats hate Romney. Fair enough. We cannot stand Obama.
If I had a business and I had to leave for several months and needed someone to run the business I would put a gun to my head before I would let Obama anywhere near the business. Obama, like it or not, is a f******* moron. However, if romney was put in charge, the business would probably be in great shape when I returned.
I know this is a subject that is taboo to the AP Glee Club, but it would be interesting to hear your comments. ObamaCare is complicated. It is not clear what is really involve because of the shouting and screaming. And it would be nice to discuss the issue outside the context of socialism vs capitalism.
Papa Johns Pizza announced that they would raise each pizza by 11-22 cents if they were to offer their employees health coverage. Their employees are for the most part, young, low level of education and transient, and may not care? If I was to buy from Papa Johns, this amount of price increase would not bother me. I do not know why the CEO had to make this political, he is going to be a loser. There are so many pizza choices.
If this price increase occur across the board, it will have an impact on some classes of people's spending. But again, that might be a positive side effect. As consumers, Americans need to study their spending habits. Eating out is a luxury and a convenience, but it might not be best for you, healthwise. All 3 major groups, whites, blacks and latinos have significantly high overweight issues.
I still have a superb health plan from my former employer, but it only comes into play under emergency care as I live abroad. Even then, it would be subject to approval for reimbursment. Fortunately, the standard of medicare care in Bangkok is very high and very reasonable for routine health problems. If you are paying customer, it is very convenient with alot of choices. For peace of mind, this is very assuring. It is my wish that we have basic universal health coverage in the US with options for people who can afford to pay for even better coverage.
[QUOTE=Esten;424943]I believe the most common explanation for Romney's defeat will be that he was a Wall Street guy.[/QUOTE]Why would that bother a plurality of the voting public? I'm willing to bet that they are ready to put a guy in charge who has made a profit, in the real world. Americans are hurting financially, I think the American experiment, with a guy who can lose $5T in 3. 5 years, is drawing to a close.
I think that is pretty pathetic as the only thing that makes you think that your candidate will win is that his opponent is a successful businessman. I can assure you that more Americans dream about obtaining wealth than do fantasizing about a socialist utopia. Good luck with that thrust."Vote for Obama, he doesn't know what profits are!" "Vote for Obama, he's never worked in the private sector!" or "Vote for Obama, he hates Wall Street, except for the billions that Wall Street heavyweights donate to him and his pacs!"
I hope you don't think that OWS was anything more than AstroTurf. OWS was a zit on an elephant's ass. The Tea Party, on the other hand, is the elephant. 2010, anyone?
[QUOTE=Toymann; 424945]WE ARE ON LIKE DONKEY KONG. Let the games begin. I will not be in Argentina in November BUT will be back after my fall trip in the spring. Mid-March to mid-April. We'll try to connect in March / April. I know you will be good for it, so start saving now. In fact, when I win the bet I'll buy dinner at parilla pena. How's that for non-partisan politics. Monger on Dude. Toymann.
Ps. I do find it interesting Esten that your actions confirm my position that the senate wil go GOP. Very interesting! Very interesting![/QUOTE]Another reason not to have made dinner part of the bet, there won't be any requirement to be in town at the same time. As I said I'm up for dinner but who knows when we'll be in town at the same time. I am hoping to come out in late November, will confirm later. If I win that is when I would prefer to collect my prize.
PS. I have no prediction on the Senate, I haven't been following the races. But Dems have more seats at stake and I know guys like Karl Rove will be spending $$$$$ to win as many as possible.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424971]I think that is pretty pathetic as the only thing that makes you think that your candidate will win is that his opponent is a successful businessman.[/QUOTE]Wrong.
Romney has far more experience in business than Obama and is more qualified to run a business than Obama. If I owned a business and had to choose someone to run it, I'd pick Romney over Obama.
The problem, something many conservatives easily forget, is that [u]a business is DIFFERENT from a government[/u]. A business exists to make a profit. A government exists to represent and serve the people. There is overlap but they just aren't the same thing.
Romney's policies will be good for business owners and investors (big and small) , but that is not enough. We also need a focus on keeping the middle class strong. That is the balance we need in government. Romney subscribes to the Republican theory that if we help the guys at the top, prosperity will trickle down to everyone else. But, more and more people are realizing that trickle down economics is a hoax and a failure. THAT is why Obama will win and Romney will lose.
[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443792604577574910276629448.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop[/url]
"The plan says these cuts would be financed in a revenue-neutral way. First, by "broadening the tax base," which means reducing or eliminating tax deductions and loopholes as in the tax reform of 1986. The Romney campaign doesn't specify which deductions—no campaign ever does—but it has been explicit in saying that the burden would fall most on higher tax brackets. So in return for paying lower rates, the wealthy get fewer deductions."
Romney tax plan will increase my taxes just as Reagan's tax cut increased my taxes in 1986.
"Second, the Romney campaign says it expects to increase revenues by increasing the rate of economic growth to 4, up from less than 2% this year and in 2011."
Highest GDP forecast from the Economist Board of Forecasters is for 2. 6% growth with average being 2. 1.
"Every major marginal rate income tax cut of the last 50 years—1964, 1981, 1986 and 2003—was followed by an unexpectedly large increase in tax revenues, a surge in taxes paid by the rich, and a more progressive tax code—I. E, the share of taxes paid by the richest 1% rose."
So why is this plan better or even different than Obama's that is also increasing taxes on the richest.
Of course you need to figure how he is going to get to 20% of GDP when Romney is also going to reverse defense spending cuts.
It is probably time for change but how gullible do the Conservatives think we are? Be honest. This decrease in marginal rates is baloney. Romney should say he is going to raise taxes just like Obama to reduce the deficit. He will also probably increase fees on things we use like listening to NPR or driving our ATVs on public lands. It is what he did in Massachusetts.
Big Boss Man, Politicians have screwed up the tax system by jacking up tax rates and then offering all types of deductions, exemptions and tax credits to their favored special interests. They get campaign contributions in return. Examples:
1. Hedge and private equity fund managers like Romney are taxed on their fees at the rate of 15%, the long term capital gains rate, instead of 35% like everyone else. This is a system that Chuck Schumer (Democrat Senator from NY) fought tooth and nail to preserve until recently, to protect fund owners in New York.
2. Companies who put in alternative energy projects, like wind, geothermal, etc, receive tax credits from the government. They turn around and sell the tax credits to people and companies who can use them. They pay for their projects with tax credits.
3. Companies and homeowners deduct interest expense. O.K., maybe this is reasonable, maybe it's not. But it encourages a culture of debt. People are rewarded for borrowing instead of saving, especially with interest rates close to zero. After inflation and taxes, you're losing money big time keeping it in the bank or money market funds.
What you seem to favor is a system that makes the economy less efficient and gives politicians, Republicans and Democrats, chips to buy off special interests. It makes dealing with the tax code extremely cumbersome. Tens of billions of dollars are flushed down the drain annually doing the accounting work to prepare tax and information returns for the IRS. People and companies do all kinds of things that don't make economic sense, except to lower their taxes by taking advantage of loopholes.
In any event, if elected, it's unlikely Romney will succeed in lowering tax rates significantly, just as, I hope, it's unlikely Obama will be successful in jacking the federal income tax rate up to 40%+. Obama's emphasis on high marginal rates and the opportunities that provides politicians to hand out special favors shows why Esten is wrong. Politicians with no knowledge of how business works can screw up the economy royally.
[QUOTE=Esten; 424974]I am hoping to come out in late November, will confirm later. If I win that is when I would prefer to collect my prize.[/QUOTE]You won't be collecting any PRIZE till we are in town together dude. What are you thinking. I come to BA on a set schedule like clockwork. Suggest you adapt your schedule after November. Like I am going to just leave you 2000 pesos to spend without me as a wingman. IALOTFLMAO. We'll be in town eventually at the same time home boy. You wild-ass liberals just seem to have little common sense. Monger on Dude. Toymann.
Ps. That said. The bet is on like donkey kong.