American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[QUOTE=Ricardo]That would be in addition to the no all CAPs and no disturbing statistics from Ricardo rules.[/QUOTE]They wern't "disturbing statistics". In fact, your original report contained [u]NO[/u] statistics.

You later edited your report to add links to NY Times surveys.

Thanks,

Jackson

[blue]Ricardo,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Persons (and especially political operatives) participating in the forum solely for the purpose of debating politics are in fact SPAMMING the forum.

Therefor, your next 5 posts must be first person reports of your recent experiences with working girls here in Argentina.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Ricardo]It's unbecoming to see an intelligent man taking such a purely paranoid position. It's also a lazy way to make an important point.

Why not argue "Obama is proposing programs, positions and policies I profoundly disagree with, that I believe will do grave harm to the American economy and the future well-being of the American people."

That is a position that is credible, mature and subject to honest debate. Then you can cite chapter, verse, facts and figures to prove your point.

The dictator thing shows a real lack of respect for the American people as it implies they might let Obama's oratory fool them into putting on their brownshirts.

You can do better.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think in his own way, that is what Sid is doing. But, there's so much hyperbole and overstatement that it's tough to take. I don't agree with many things Obama is doing in terms of exerting government influence on all facets of the economy. But, I'll take my hat off to him in a variety of areas -- especially in the international arena. What he did over the past week with missile defense in Eastern Europe, then getting Russia's support on Iran, then turning the table on Ahmadinejead at the G20 on their nuke program -- well, that was masterful, in my opinion. [b]Very[/b] well played, at least in my book. Bravo.

As for the notion that lack of regulation caused the current financial malaise: There is a very, very strong case to be made that [b]over-regulation[/b] is the culprit. Years of government interference in the housing market created false incentives. Nowhere was this more obvious than the government-sponsored entities (now government-owned entities) Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Loan a pile of dough to whomever. What does it matter? Fannie and Freddy will buy the mortgage pool. Granted, the private sector definitely got in on the act. But, without the false, government-created incentives, it is far more likely that we would simply be going through another run-of-the-mill recession right now. And, there should be no debate about whether recessions are going to happen. They can be delayed or hastened a bit by monetary policy and other factors, but they are inevitable, just as boom times are inevitable.

Another factor associated with the latest downturn: Easy capital. But that, again, is largely due to government meddling. The Chinese for years have been manipulating their own currency. Geithner was the most recent to call them on this, until the administration muzzled him. The Chinese have always created false incentives to encourage saving and discourage consumption, and the government has kept its currency artificially low to increase its trade surplus and keep its economy chugging. As a result, the Chinese built up huge surpluses of cash, which had to seek out a decent return. Where did they find it? The USA, which resulted in a prolonged period of easy money here.

They've just started to address this at the G-20 but, again, this was the result of government meddling -- not lack of regulation. Admittedly, the Chinese are professional meddlers, but the notion that this whole mess can be laid at the feet of the "free market" is a canard, plain and simple.

Good deal.

[url]http://www.newsmax.com/politics/_maloney_husband_death/2009/09/26/265212.html[/url]

Yeah this is health care.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_breast[/url]

I have personally enjoyed the intelligent discussion in this thread from both sides, and think that Ricardo in particular has contributed significantly in this regard. I find the new requirement for his continued posting rather heavy handed. The guy joined in 2006, which makes it a stretch to think he is some "political operative". Jackson if you feel you need to reign things in, perhaps a more moderate position like 1 chica review, or 1 political post allowed per week. Requiring 5 chica reviews before posting anything else seems to be in effect silencing him.

Yes, very heavy handed but also very predictable. But don't Argentina regimes have a long history of repression?

[QUOTE=Black Shirt]Yes, very heavy handed but also very predictable. But don't Argentina regimes have a long history of repression?[/QUOTE]It is for Ricardo's own good to do some research on free-market-poon.

[QUOTE=Black Shirt]Yes, very heavy handed but also very predictable. But don't Argentina regimes have a long history of repression?[/QUOTE] Dead ass -

Well rounded contributors?

You mean for every 500 political copy and paste jobs sidney makes, he posts one 2 line review of a restaurant? Is that what's considered well rounded?

Right.

But yes, very predictable. This is a website owned and dominated by right wingers. I've just come to that conclusion. There is still some good information here, so I stick around. But it is useless posting in the political threads, you will get dog piled and if that doesn't work, censored or banned.

Regards,

BM

[QUOTE=BadMan]But yes, very predictable. This is a website owned and dominated by right wingers. I've just come to that conclusion. There is still some good information here, so I stick around. But it is useless posting in the political threads, you will get dog piled and if that doesn't work, censored or banned.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%

I was expecting this to happen. Sydney getting battered, or 'bettered' in the argument, even making himself look pretty pathetic at times, and the guy with the rational arguments gets banned.

All those facts and figures. They must really hurt when they make you re-examine your beliefs.

[QUOTE=BadMan]This is a website owned and dominated by right wingers.[/QUOTE]BadMan,

You're wrong.

For the record, I am [u]NOT[/u] a Rebublican, and I am [u]NOT[/u] a conservative.

- I am [u]against[/u] the death penalty.
- I am [u]against[/u] [u]any[/u] government support of religious organizations.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of drugs.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of commercial sex.
- I am [u]for[/u] a woman's right to choose.
- I am [u]for[/u] comprehensive sex education.
- I am [u]for[/u] a foreign guest worker program.
- I am [u]for[/u] a universal flat tax on [u]EVERYONE'S[/u] income.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]INSURANCE[/u] reform.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]JUSTICE[/u] reform.

I am a member of the Libertian Party, registered as an Independent.

The fact is that I'm a right-of-center moderate, but from a far left socialist's perspective, [u]THEY[/u] are the centrists, and thus anyone who doesn't share their beliefs is automatically a "Right Winger".

[QUOTE=BadMan]This is a website owned and dominated by right wingers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Schmoj]I agree 100%[/QUOTE]Agree too.

And I particullary think that is the main reason of so many troubles with local people.

Have made some friends in local clubs, guys working there, also girls, that told me of the unsympathy for gringo mongers who write in this forum.

Can it be more easy man?

Insted of pushing and despising and trying to teach argies "how to live" or "how to manage" their economy behave a little in the friendly way?

Sure you'll get the better of them.

You'll get much more comments of girls and place that what already are. Two or three posts about that a day (against over twenty over political items) Look any local forum, and you'll check no less than 50 entries about girls, privados, night clubs. Not all of them because not all of them can write english, but sure many of them could translate their experiences here, enriching this way this forum.

Think it over.

I'm not argie monger. I'm from Netherland so I not take part in this confrontation.

Hope this can help.

[QUOTE=Esten]I find the new requirement for his continued posting rather heavy handed. The guy joined in 2006, which makes it a stretch to think he is some "political operative".[/QUOTE]Hi Esten,

It's not a "new requirement". In fact, it's a well-established but rarely needed anti-SPAM policy on my other forums.

This is just the first time I've had to enforce it on ArgentinaPrivate.

Thanks,

Jackson