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Saint,
Sounds like you are having a great time, and I can't wait to get there myself.
Apartments - I appreciate the advice. I don't want to waste everyone's time on this board, however if you are still in BA on the 10th I would be grateful of the chance to discuss ALL the delights of BA further - not just apts.
If you have the time pls e-mail me at dkell70@hotmail.com
Cheers
Another great night in BA!!
James Bond, DBoy and a couple of other of the crew hit the boliches of BA last night. Here is the rundown in the order we checked them. Also it was a sunday night:
Blacks - increadible girls but chicas and the drinks are very expensive. If money is not an issue then there are definately some hot girls there but for me, they are too professional and too expensive.
Shampoo - they wanted us to pay to enter - "in BA terms that means that there are not any hot girls inside" - paraphrased from BA expert James Bond.
Newport - seems like a bar but is really a boliche. Some OK girls and some real skanks. I can see how some tourists get scamed in there by some of the pros there.
Madahos - I hear good things about it but it was slow that night with a few girls.
Solid Gold - a few gems amongst the other not so fine chicas.
Hooks - Dboy, James Bond, d. and myself all headed to Hooks in the centro. Much younger looking girls that seem very similar to the girls that I have been getting with the clarin. Everybody went home with someone and it ended up that James Bond, his hot hilary swank look alike Valeria myself and my chica (forgot her name) all go back to my apartment for a little champagne and fun at 4:00 am.
We get there of start with my new best friend Viatamin V. Then James Bond and his chica are going at it on the coach and both chicas start undressing right there in the living room and start rubbing all over us. More champagne and wine, and my chica is getting plastered walking around in her undies enjoying the wine. 30 minutes later, the V kicks in and we go back to the room. She opens the windows and blinds and turns on a few lights and starts undressing - I told her that she will be giving everybody at Etoile a show and she said that she doesn't care commences in blowing me.
We start going hot a heavy at it and she really starts getting into it and makes a lot of noise. Meanwhile Mr. Bond is in the next room going at it with his little hottie Valeria. Anyway, the sun is coming up over beautiful BA, I can see the recoleta cemetary, the sea and am having this great sex with this little hard-body who is moaning, biting, slapping, kissing etc. Five positions including one I learned here and we were done.
We finished and finally got James Bond out of the room and proceeded to give the chicas some little gifts and took soom pictures. proceeded to fool around with my chica in the elevator as she was still pastered.
Bottom line - my chica had a great body but in the morning I moticed that here teeth were a little messed up. Valeria, James Bond's chica was very hot and looked even better in the morning. the chicas were with us for a couple of hours and it cost $150 pesos for my chica.
Was it better than the Clarin? It was just different as the girls in Clarin go for $25 to $60 pesos per hour and are just as good as the chicas in Hooks. In Hooks the benefit is that you get to see them first, spend time with them and enjoy scenary.
Anyway, tonight I will try to check out some of the out of the way boliches that some of the WSG posters have recomended. to them thanks a lot and will post the outcome tomorrow.
Saludos,
John Guapo
[QUOTE]Originally posted by johnguapo
Critic by James Bond of Sr. Johnguapo Sunday night in BA.
[i]Another great night in BA!!
>Yes indeed. Saturday and Sunday are traditionally the worst in BA. I've been told that the Argentines have to put in time with their wives and girlfriends on those days but for a skilled monger there are gems to be found - and we found them.
Blacks - incredible girls but chicas and the drinks are very expensive.
>yeah. Like asking price TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS/hour. A lawyer's rate.
If money is not an issue then there are definately some hot girls there but for me, they are too professional and too expensive.
>We arrived at Blacks a a good hour for Sunday - Midnight. The ratio was about three chicas to every monger. We played it cool with the pros fishing for the great $200US El monger, not taking the bait but I think if we had returned at 3:30am we could have left with a 9 or even one of the few 10's for 200 pesos. As usually Blacks had a few 10's and more than a few 8's and 9's. The highest quality but worst value in Recoleta.
Shampoo - they wanted us to pay to enter - "in BA terms that means that there are not any hot girls inside" - paraphrased from BA expert James Bond.
>correct Sr. Johnguapo, pay per view is particularly silly at a third rate chica bar as Shampoo. Every indication is that Shampoo had no more than three 6's at best.
Newport - seems like a bar but is really a boliche. Some OK girls and some real skanks. I can see how some tourists get scamed in there by some of the pros there.
>The enigma of Newport is that on some days such as last Saturday semi-pros work the mongers, paying 8 pesos to the management to work alongside the pros and reel in the accidental tourist. Don't write off Newports. It has its moments.
Madahos - I hear good things about it but it was slow that night with a few girls.
>Sunday is never a good day at Madahos but it rocks on all other nights. Pro girls with semi pro attitudes in a great space with cool staff.
Solid Gold - a few gems amongst the other not so fine chicas.
>Solid Gold aka Solid Silicon is skankville. IMHO a level below even playwoman level.
>Conspicuously absent from Sr. Johnguepo's report is a critic of Playwomen, our second to last stop, where we unfortunately spent most of the evening, caught in a bizzaree thirty minute "show" featuring the same music that they have played for a decade and featuring a collection of overaged strippers with incompetent boob jobs. The only highlight was Johngruapo's arm, indiscretely drapped over the side of the stage that the strippers inventively managed to work into their acts. One hopes that Johnguapo doesn't make the same mistake as Monica Lewinsky did with her dress. Please send the shirt immediatley to a skilled dry cleaner!
Hooks - Dboy, James Bond, d. and myself all headed to Hooks in the centro. Much younger looking girls that seem very similar to the girls that I have been getting with the clarin. Everybody went home with someone and it ended up that James Bond, his hot hilary swank look alike Valeria myself and my chica (forgot her name) all go back to my apartment for a little champagne and fun at 4:00 am.
>actuallly here is were Johnguapo lost some monger points on monger technique, making the novice mistake of taking the first chica that approached him, one of two paraguyian sisters and the less comely of the two. In a monger movement he quickly recovered, boldly dumping the attacking chica and deftly replacing her with a foxy Blonde at the bar. A brazen movement, well executed...
>We left Hooks around 3:30pm, my arms drapped over the Hillary Swank lookalike. I am sure at least ten chicas from 7-8 left the club pesoless that night. What a waste of a valuable resources.
>We get there of start with my new best friend Viatamin V. Then James Bond and his chica are going at it on the coach and both chicas start undressing right there in the living room and start rubbing all over us. More champagne and wine, and my chica is getting plastered walking around in her undies enjoying the wine. 30 minutes later, the V kicks in and we go back to the room. She opens the windows and blinds and turns on a few lights and starts undressing - I told her that she will be giving everybody at Etoile a show and she said that she doesn't care commences in blowing me.
We start going hot a heavy at it and she really starts getting into it and makes a lot of noise. Meanwhile Mr. Bond is in the next room going at it with his little hottie Valeria. Anyway, the sun is coming up over beautiful BA, I can see the recoleta cemetary, the sea and am having this great sex with this little hard-body who is moaning, biting, slapping, kissing etc. Five positions including one I learned here and we were done.
We finished and finally got James Bond out of the room and proceeded to give the chicas some little gifts and took soom pictures. proceeded to fool around with my chica in the elevator as she was still pastered.
>I was quite content that evening. leaving with a twenty one year old dead ringer for Hilary Swank, an Oscar award winner and one of my favorite actresses. It was also my first experience with V and I am a believer. What this little miracle of sexual chemistry does is lenghten the staying power, a problem for a sprinter like myself. I was able to go the full distance although it's claims for "refresh" powers is still an open question. As always, I was knocked out in the first round but the round was long my brothers, long and hard and one can never expect to outlast a chica in the ring. It's the law of nature.
>As for pre and post coital performance Johnguapo is as smooth an operator as they come. He starts off with some little flirty jokes in above average Spanish, then brings out the Champagne which he puts down on his living room table beside a copy of Business Week and the Economist, then conjures up a lapdance from his chica, easeing her into his bedroom, the floor unseemly littered decorously with condoms from past Clarin prepubescent conquests.
>His post coital skills win him points with small five pesos bars of soap that he extols for their exotic and natural scent. A cheap ploy for sure, but one that he knows well will pay off in any return engagements.
Bottom line - my chica had a great body but in the morning I moticed that here teeth were a little messed up. Valeria, James Bond's chica was very hot and looked even better in the morning. the chicas were with us for a couple of hours and it cost $150 pesos for my chica.
>Johnguapo closed a better deal...I paid 200 pesos with a 50 pesos tip and ten pesos taxi fee, for a grand total of 260 pesos, nearly double what Johnguapo paid but then I spent the night with Hillary Swank and he didn't!!!
Was it better than the Clarin? It was just different as the girls in Clarin go for $25 to $60 pesos per hour and are just as good as the chicas in Hooks. In Hooks the benefit is that you get to see them first, spend time with them and enjoy scenary.
>Johnguapo Monger rating:
Club moves -- 8, making the final monger mistake of taking the first chica that approaches him. A swift switch at the last movement saves his evening.
>Pre-Coital - 9 - excellent seductive techniques, a real pro. It was like being in high school again, with two faux virgins.
>Coital - no first hand experience naturally but the symphony of moans coming from the next room played well , with the proper amount of silences and rising crescendos, seemingly inspired. At one point his chica with no name appeared in my door stark naked and told my chica it was time to go, then mysteriously disappeared in Sr. Johnguapo's room, where she performed a deafening encore. He probably rates a 9 but who knows for sure?
>Post Coital - 10. The gifts set up a second act, if he so desires.
Anyway, tonight I will try to check out some of the out of the way boliches that some of the WSG posters have recomended. to them thanks a lot and will post the outcome tomorrow.
>Bottom Line:
>Hooks, far the best of the downtown clubs, always comes through in a crunch but I would have liked to test my theory of market economics and supply and demand: that prices at Blacks on a slow night can come down to reasonable levels if one strikes at the first minute of the "magic" half hour before closing, precisely 3:30am. I look forward to any research on this subject.
>Sr. Johnguapo is a mission from the Monger God to push the limits and blaze new paths, to go where no monger dares to tread...Clarins, off the beaten path boliches, etc..who knows what is next for this daredevil monger on a quest for total knowledge.... Pray for him....
...to be continued.....
Yo, fellas.
Let me say that Jackson, Roxanna, and Maria did a great job getting us all together. Mayri was a pleasure as always to deal with. Other than an error on the hotel´s part, I had no problem getting here and settling in to my first session nicely.
It was great meeting some of you other hobbiers. Nice to put faces to the posts.
Thanks to all of you for helping me to enjoy my Holiday break.
On my way to the airport, so expect a large report when I get the opportunity. In the report you´ll learn of interesting things like
1. A wonderful website called www.gemidos.com
2. The professionalism of Mayra Brill
3. Jackson, the Host with the Most
4. Design Suites
5. 3 of the Best Sessions ever
6. 2 of the Worst Sessions ever
7. My full contact wrestling match with a chica that tried to take my money and steal my sunglasses.
and..
8. The Evil Death Touch of Saint!
Until then,
Kick Stand
I too enjoyed the Friday Thanksgiving monger dinner. The setup was perfect and I enjoyed meeting everyone. Jackson & Saint, thanks for a great concept.
Hanging out with JamesBond and Johnguapo is a great way to get experience for an almost first timer in BA. Planning to do it again tonite. Johnguapo, maybe at these out of the way boliches, we can even beat some of your Clarin prices. But the quality has to be there. We all did all right last night.
My girl from Hooks, Moira, wasn´t the hottest, but she sure was sweet. I´m finding more and more, that I look for friendly and fun chicas who are petite. Then if the face is great, that´s a bonus. But her attitude is what will make the time memorable.
JohnGuapo, as I told you before, you´re the man.
kyck_stand:
I think you meant www.gemidos.com.ar
www.gemidos.com is an awful pop-up screens website with zero value.
Andres
Oh man. I can’t even begin to remember all the things that happened. Now that I’ll probably be going down so much more often I’ll probably post less and less. In all reality I don’t need to post anymore. Before my first trip there were barely any posts on Buenos Aires. Now there are tons and tons of guys and I’ll let them post their adventures. I’ll probably keep my postings to the private boards but I’ll always post some tidbits to this general board if time permits.
I just returned to the USA and was in my office before noon. I’m exhausted. I had a great time. This was probably the most fun of all my trips even though it was a short trip. I’ve been really lucky to have met some class acts. Guys like UWPhoto and Kick Stand are life long friends now. I also enjoyed meeting so many of you that I can’t even begin to remember your screen names. I apologize. Just too many dudes and not enough days to get them straight.
Yeah, Kick Stand had one 24 hour period where the dude was cursed. Seemed like no matter what he did he ended up getting screwed. Although I gotta say that my last day before I was leaving I call his room after my chica left. I told him I’d say goodbye and stop by his room. He told me he had a 7:30 PM session but I should still stop by. I told him if he was in the middle of the session he need not come to the door. Well, a little after 7:40 PM..i go to his room. I knock on the door and I can hear this chick moaning really loudly…..so I guess his bad luck ended…ha, ha, ha. Way to go amigo!!
After I saw Lorena from Platynum, I hooked up with Kick Stand and we met UWPhoto at Café Orleans. As always I didn’t see anyone that I would pay to see. There were a few ok girls but nothing that I would seriously consider. Most of the girls seemed older than my preference. UWPhoto got a number of this chick. We ate some snacks here because we weren’t meeting Mayri and her friends until 12 AM.
Well, afterwards we had some time to kill. I had the bright idea to go to this way far away area. One of the girls I know told me about this club a long way from town. She told me there were some cuties. It was in a neighborhood that most would never visit. It was past Flores. Our taxi driver got lost and had to ask about 4 times. Our taxi ride was 16 pesos if that gives you an idea of the distance. Long story short….we get there and they did not let us past the main room. It was kind of a private club. They didn’t like Americans here. Me, UWPhoto and Kick Stand stood out like sore thumbs. The dude tried telling me this wasn’t a ‘boliche’. Anyway, I’m pissed but don’t want to create a scene. We leave. I can laugh about it now but I felt bad for UWPhoto and Kick Stand. Oh well..yet another adventure.
I can tell Kick Stand at this point is frustrated because earlier in the day a girl no showed. I set up an appointment for him and the girl was really nice on the phone with me but she clearly told me that my friend would have to pay more simply because she could charge more since he didn’t speak Spanish. I got the price down to 250 pesos for 2 hours. I set the time for 6 PM..same as my appointment for Lorena. I guess she no showed. He called her at 7 PM and she made up some story how she thought it was for 7 PM then wanted more. Not sure if she even knew it was the same appointment. Long story short she screwed him. He might want to provide her name so people can avoid.
So after our adventure to no man’s land Kick Stand has to go back to hotel to change his clothes. Of course, UWPhoto and I are not about to just wait around in our rooms for even ½ an hour. Why waste 30 precious minutes in BA??? I can’t stand just hanging out in my room. That’s why I never nap. We head to Cutty Shark. It’s dead but we have a drink and talk and joke around. We always have a good time together. One of the other dudes I met at the dinner walks in. We chat with him a little while and we have to leave. I forget his handle but a super nice guy that I enjoyed meeting.
Uwphoto and I duck in to Hook’s and it looks ok but we have to go meet the gang for dinner in Puerto Madero. Traffic was killer and we were a little late. We meet up with Mayri, her 2 friends who were sisters (who were gorgeous and what I consider to be GFM- girlfriend material), Ezeamante, and Kick Stand. Great restaurant that I’ve been to every trip. Great service. Puerto Cristol is the name of it. Our waiter was awesome. Only in BA will you see a restaurant packed at 2:00 AM. Our dinner was great! Us guys split the tab and I gave the waiter a 100 peso tip. It was 2:30 AM before we left the place.
UWPhoto and Kick Stand decided to hit the downtown clubs and Ezeamante and I decided to hit Black’s. Ezeamante is a super nice guy that I enjoyed meeting. If any of you get the chance to hook up with him definitely do it. We are planning to hit Cuba together in February if any of you want to join us.
Black’s was dead. It really sucked. We left before finishing our first drink. We hit Shampoo and he wanted to introduce me to his waitress friend. The place was extremely dark. I don’t like this place but I’m sure there are girls to be had here. Next we hit Playwoman. It also sucked. At this point it is like 3:30 AM. We leave and he decides to go home. I don’t plan on going home alone. Earlier in the night my girl from Salome called me and asked to come over. I couldn’t because I was busy but I told her I’d go there if I had time. Well, I did. I went there and she was sitting alone by the door. BINGO. One drink and I was out of there with her. We never even discussed money or prices. The first time she wanted 150 pesos.
She was great just like before. She stayed until like 5 AM. When she was leaving she never asked me for any money. She was halfway out the door when I told her I didn’t pay her. She just replied, “no problema amor”. I always pay even if they don’t ask (which believe it or not happens more than you would think). I gave her 200 pesos. She is half Brazilian and half Paraguayan. Man did I have a GFE session.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Earlier in the day when Kick Stand and I were shopping on Florida Street I stopped in a CD Store. When I was in Mexico City last month 2 girls in a row asked me if I had music from Christian Castro when I asked them what they wanted to listen to. I had this big cd case full of music but nothing from this dude. I never listened to anything from him but I was sure to bet if two girls asked me (one was from Buenos Aires and the other from Rio) it was probably ok. Well, at the CD store. I tell the story to Kick Stand. I ask a girl and she smiles and says..of course they have it. We look at the cd and the cover looks really gay. Some photo of the single with his face up close. Kick Stand just starts laughing. He said no way he is standing in line with me to buy it. I’m sure it would be the equivalent of some dude buying an Air Supply CD here in the USA.
Ha, ha. Oh well. I wanted to see why these girls asked for it. Before Lorena came over I put it on. Let me just say I’m glad I bought it. Like 3 girls that I saw this weekend were serenading me. Even the hardest of hobbyist will have their hearts melt when a hottie is serenading you to the song, “Cuando me miras asi”. Basically slow songs in Spanish. Check it out if you’re so inclined. All the girls liked it during my private time with them.
Another thing is be original if you can. When you call them up I realize that many of you can’t speak Spanish. This is a bummer for you. Keep in mind before my first trip I couldn’t speak Spanish barely at all. I took it in high school but never paid attention. Never had a reason to learn. I studied hard and now it’s decent. I can understand almost everything if the girls talk slow. Get a course like Pimsleur Spanish. The 90 thirty minute set is expensive at around $1,000 but email me at [email]saintofba@hotmail.com[/email] and I can help you get it for next to nothing. Also, you’re local library will probably have the basic starter version. Check it out. No books involved. Just listen to lessons. It’s great.
When I call the girls I’ll usually say something like:
Saint: Hola, amor. Vos puedes ayudarme? (Hi love. Are you able to help me?)
Girl from internet: Hola. Si. Claro que si. (Hi. Of course!)
Saint: Estoy buscando a mi amante. (I am looking for my lover).
Girl from Internet: She will be laughing….
This breaks the ice. I’ve learned that making a girl laugh is priceless. Of course I hope all you jokers don’t steal my line now. Ha,, ha. Just use your own creativity. Before you leave think of things to say and get it translated and then write it down and use it when you call them. As much as we all would like to think we are Prince Fricking Charming……we aren’t. Some of you think that we are doing the girls a huge favor and paying them a fortune to sleep with us. (Which is generally true). But everytime you do. Remember this…..if you were a girl how much would you pay to sleep with yourself???? I’m serious! Look in the mirror. These girls have some difficult work. Also, this is common sense but practice good hygiene! This shouldn't even need to be said but take a shower immediately before (and after if you're going back out). Do you want to sleep with a girl that didn't shower before seeing you?
Anyway…..I’ll post the rest later if I get a chance. I enjoy posting because it’s almost like a journal to me. My problem is my schedule is at a hectic pace now. I leave for Mexico next week. The following week I will return to Buenos Aires then to Rio then back to Buenos Aires. If I can convince myself the office can function with out me, I’m gonna take most of January off and stay in Buenos Aires.
A special thank you to Jackson who planned a wonderful dinner, UWPhoto and Kick Stand who were excellent partners to go out with and BS with, Mayri at [url]www.argentinago.com,[/url] and all the rest of you that I bumped into. It was a fast but great couple of days. Oh yeah, a special thanks to the girls of Area-vip.com.ar Ha, ha. Damn I love those girls. You guys might want to note that almost all of them that I called answered their phones this trip. All but one were willing to deal. One of the girls wanted some crazy price like $200 US. She told me that she was a famous model in her country. I told her that I was a famous model in my country too. She just laughed. I think I could have negotiated but I didn’t need the attitude.
Guys, also something important. Yes, you can survive without spanish in BA but I'm 100% positive that you can have a better experience with it. Mine still sucks but it's good enough to hold conversations in taxi's, with chicas, etc. Kick Stand's experience can show you why speaking spanish can be better. I've NEVER had a girl do a no show on me. I always ask her if this is 100% sure and that my time is valuable just like her time is valuable.
I think Jackson's friend Roxanna was starting a seperate company to assist guys as almost their personal assistant. She could probably help with setting up appointments with girls. Sure, the hotels can probably help you but you want to be more discreet. She would be perfect for this! She could also make reservations for restaurants, etc. She can negotiate a fixed price for you and probably could be on call with a cellphone if you need help with things or translating. Her English is excellent. I met her and if she really was serious about doing this I'm sure it would be very good for her and for all you guys that don't speak Spanish. I'm sure she will post a message if she decides to do this. Whatever money you would be paying her you would be saving in the cost of the appointments and in no shows. Definitely two thumbs up!
More later.
Jackson,
Just got back to the stateside and want to give out a shout to you. This trip to Buenos Aires was fantastic not only because of the beautiful girls we were able to score (this is pretty much a given) but also because of the wonderful Thanksgiving dinner and the reception with the website girls that you organized. All in all a most excellent affair and one that should probably be continued on a regular basis given your capable and lovely assistant Roxana so long as there is a critical mass of mongers in BA. I personally observed 4 or 5 deals that were struck between mongers/chicas as a direct result of the reception. Think about it, a get together between mongers and chicas in an informal/party type of atmosphere where the mongers can check out girls first hand while the girls can ply their ware to a good size potential client base. A win-win situation!! Anyway, thanks again for the hospitality down in BA, you were great!!
As for the rest of the esteemed members of the AMA(Argentina Mongers Association) such as Saint, Kickstand, UWphoto (thanks for the 200 pesos emergency chica fund that one night), EZE-amante, JamesBond, JohnGuapo, Dboy and others, it was really great hanging out with you guys and exchange war stories/chica data/chica recommendations etc, what a collection of great guys. I guess I'll cut this short because it's starting to sound like some sort of award speech but suffice to say that for all you lurking prospective members of AMA you should definitely make your way out to BA sooner rather than later, trust me, you are going to love it.
Saint:
1) Do you remember the neighborhood away from Downtown?
Was it called Liniers or Mataderos?
Did the cabbie mention that the place was in Provincia de Buenos Aires or in Capital (within the city limits)?
I wonder if Liniers has picked up again. I wouldn't go there, since it's dangerous nowadays. And I wouldn't cross the General Paz Avenue (the one that divides Provincia from Capital) unless necessary.
2) In Argentina and Paraguay, we use a diferent Spanish verb conjugation for the 2nd person (singular and plural).
Instead of saying "tu puedes", we say "vos podés". Similarly, we don't use "vosotros podeis" but "ustedes pueden". Some newcomers to Buenos Aires may be confused when listening "ustedes" (meaning "you") since it sounds as "Usted es" (meaning "you are") .
Just a comment, since these things are not usually taught in general Spanish.
Andres
Damn I'm tired but I wanted to finish before I went to bed. I've only been back a few hours and already talked to some friends on Instant Messenger and one of the amigas called my cellphone today! I miss BA already.
My final day one of my amigas called and asked if I wanted to have lunch with her. It was my last day but sure why not? Then she tells me how she was talking to Paola (whom I saw on an earlier trip...see trip report from May 2002) and Andrea were talking about their session with Kick Stand. They were telling her how he was ummm.... "well endowed". They also were saying how he was easy money and very easy. Those of you that know Kick Stand know that he is VERY laid back and easy going. Maybe too much so with the girls.
Guys don't be afraid to be a little agressive with the girls in telling them what you want to see. Also,it is very difficult if you don't speak any Spanish. So try to learn a few phrases before you go. Anyway, she is telling her amiga the story who just returned from Brazil. A girl from Brazil. She told me her friend wanted to meet Kick Stand based on his description alone.
I call Kick Stand and tell him the story. I ask if he wants to go to lunch with us. He is game. So we take a taxi to this one girl's apartment. Oh man. We were cracking up. My girl I know is a little loca but very very funny. She had Kick Stand and I laughing. His girl came out and she was really cute. Great tight body with nice breasts and a pretty face. The typical Brazil looking girl with lighter dark skin. She seemed nice.
We go to a nice restaurant in Puerto Madero. On the way the girls are telling us how Luciana (Kick Stand's girl) works at Black's. How she can drink like 25 drinks each and every night. Yikes! We get to the restaurant and the girls aren't eating much. We order a bottle of wine mainly for Luciana. She doesn't like it (so she says) but manages to drink about almost the entire bottle herself! I ask for a different bottle of wine since she "didn't like it". Of course the one she wants is 140 pesos a bottle. No problem.
She liked the second bottle. Kick Stand and I had one glass and she pretty much drank the rest of the bottle herself. I paid for the lunch. With tip it was a little pricey at 300 pesos with a very generous tip for 4 of us.
In the restaurant we're having a good time laughing and joking around. I thought Kick Stand was gonna have a blast. His girl was looking good in her tight jeans. She wanted a lot but we got it negotiated to 300 pesos for 2 hours. On the taxi ride back to the hotel things got kind of funny. Kick Stand is in the back with the two girls. Along this time I am thinking I want to see someone different on Area-Vip. I casually mention that maybe the two girls should have a session with Kick Stand and I'd go off alone. My girl asks if I don't want her? Ooops. She says that yes maybe she does want to do a 2 girl with Kick Stand. She tells me to call my girl from Black's..who she knows and HATES. So, guess what? She kept saying to call this girl. So I did. BIG mistake!
I'm calling her and asking if she can come over. Nope..it's sunday and she is with her son. But asks me to call her in 2 weeks when I'm there. She told me she wants to see my apartment. All of a sudden...my girl is reaching in the front seat and slapping the hell out of me. I was laughing. So was Kick Stand, his girl and the taxi driver was laughing so hard I thought we'd crash!
We get to the hotel. I was just gonna have my girl leave but ended up having like a 3 hour session with her. After about 2 hours I call Kick Stand's room to see how he is doing. Man oh man. This guy is jinxed. He tells me some crazy story how the girl took a shower then demanded her money. He gave her the 300 pesos and then demanded more! I thought he was joking! Nope. The girl was nutso. I guess she tried ripping him off. I felt so bad. My girl felt very, very very bad. She was pissed. She thought I was lying and asked to talk to Kick Stand. She calls Kick Stand's room and attempts to talk to him in English. Listening to her talk in English is funny as Kick Stand can attest to. Pure comedy.
Anyway, I end up going 2 more rounds. It's close to 7:15 PM and I was supposed to check out at 6 PM! I was gonna pay 1/2 a day rate to check out at 6 PM. At 6 PM i call downstairs and tell them I want to check out at 8 PM. The guy tells me I will have to pay a full day. Nothing I could do since I was buck naked and in no position to argue. It's 7:15 and I take a quick shower and change and I ask my amiga to pack all my clothes and stuff into my suitcase. I know this girl well and can totally trust her. I left out over 1000 pesos in my wallet while showering and it was all there when I came back. Plus I had another couple hundred pesos lying around all in the same place on the table.
As we were leaving she started to cry. I gave her money and she would NOT accept it. I kept giving it to her and she threw it on the bed. While she was in the bathroom I put 300 pesos in her purse. She called me today and was pissed and gave her money. I justified it wasn't for sex.
I was worried because one of the normal non-working chicas that I met on a previous trip called and wanted to do dinner. I couldn't since every night I was busy. The only time I could meet was on the way to the airport and I told her she could wait at the airport with me. She didn't get off work till 7 PM. I told her I'd wait and if she showed up before I checked out I'd have my driver take her to the airport and then pick her back up. I waited till like 7:45 PM and she wasn't there so I had to leave. I hope she isn't mad.
I checked out of the Design Suites. I gave the guy a 100 peso bill to share with all the other guys who were always great. My driver was waiting for me. Same guy as always, Sergio with the Mercedes Benz. I always book through the agency. I think you can call him directly but if you book with the agency they charge a lot more if you specifically request the Mercedes. I never do but he knows my name and always picks me up. I always leave him a very good tip and I think that is why. It was like 56 pesos or something. I gave him 55 pesos + $10 US (aprx. 36 pesos) for tip.
When I arrived at the airport I ran into two dudes from the board. We had a few drinks and I ate a huge Empanada. I picked up the check. I'm not sure how much it was (I think like 45 pesos) but I gave the guy $5 US for tip. I know the tipping can add up but sometimes I like making people's day. I also think it makes it easier for other Americans. If you can help it at all...try to tip at least a little. I noticed some guys paid their bills at the clubs and didn't tip the waitresses anything. To me this isn't cool. These girls work their asses off.
I ran into Superjeff..another dude I met on another trip. I'm not sure if he is on this board or not. Great guy. He happened to be sitting in the same row as me. Before the plane boarded we were swapping stories. The guy in between us was quite interested in hearing all about BA (he just had a few hours layover from Chile). Then Jeff whips out his digital camera. They guy was the one controlling the camera from shot to shot! It was hilarious!!!
Sometimes I ask myself what I did to deserve the life I live. When I get back, my friend tells me that one of the girls we went to dinner with that night liked talking to me and thought I was cute. I thought the same of her. Like I said...GFM (girlfriend material). I end up talking to the girl and I have a date with her when I return!!! Once I live in Buenos Aires at least part-time..I'll probably slow down the late nights every night and do more normal stuff. I'm looking forward to going back.
I know that probably 97% of you that read this board will never go to BA. I hope you can live vicariously through my (and other dudes) posts.
P.S. Andres...it was in an area of town I'm SURE you've never been to. Basically it was Barrio Koreano. And I know my Spanish isn't always 100% correct but the girls sure know what I'm saying or trying to say..ha, ha.
Oh yeah... LOL! At the airport during the drinks with the two dudes...I'm showing them some digital pictures. I still had some pictures from my Tijuana trip last month on it. The dudes hadn't been to Tijuana in years. They couldn't believe some of the pictures I had. They were impressed. They said that when they read my trip report on Tijuana they couldn't believe I'd go to such a place. After looking at the pictures they said they were going to make a trip there. (One of the dudes lived in LA!!!). Ha, ha.
Life is good.
Saint
Thank you for generously sharing your thoughts on this board. I went this year to BA for the first time and your posts helped to a significant degree.
Much appreciated Andres, as are all your posts. Most Americans such as I learn Spanish in school from Mexican teachers and I have lots of problems with the Spanish in Argentina. It really seems like a dialect, with the ll sound so different like in lluvia and the yo that sounds like the English word "show". It's almost like I have to start from scratch sometimes and it sounds more like Italian than Spanish.
For you guys who come down to Buenos Aires and don't bother to learn Spanish...well..you are MISSING so much you can't imagine. The chicas and in fact all the people have so many interesting things to say and stories to tell...it's really like being blind, not speaking Spanish here. Sex is sex but you can get that anywhere. There is so much more here. It's not like a place (say San Jose, Costa Rica) when you are there there is no there there:-)
I would like to formerly thank my late high school Spanish teacher, Senora Barrancos from San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, for helping enjoy the full experience of mongering in the great city of Buenos Aires.
Saint:
Yes, I was there... several times, but not for mongering.
Barrio Coreano (Korean Quarter) is located around Cobo Av and Curapaligüe Av. Technically, it is the "Bajo Flores" (Low Flores, low perhaps due to floodings from an underground creek). You can get to Cobo and Curapaligüe by taking a cab from Flores quarter (if the cabbie dares to drive there), which shouldn't take more than 10 minutes from Rivadavia Av and Nazca Av.
Why "Korean Quarter"? 50,000 Koreans immigrated during the late 1970s and early 1980s, and most of them already returned to Asia. You will see Korean advertising everywhere around Cobo and Curapaligüe. It is the biggest Asian population in Argentina.
The place is a mixture of run-down middle class Korean-Argentinians and low class people in trentchtowns (Villas Miserias) of Bajo Flores. Poor people came from the Interior and the neighbouring countries.
Honestly? I wouldn't dare to go there even during daylight. Too much misery and risk of suffering a crime to worth a visit.
Thanks for the info!
Andres
Guys:
Talking about Asians, if you like Chinese food, you should go to BA's Chinatown.
Chinatown is located next to the "Belgrano C" train station, 6 blocks from Libertador Av and La Pampa St (close to Nuevo Estilo Boliche). The neighborhood, centered in Arribeños St and Mendoza St, is small (only a few blocks wide) but it has at least 6 Chinese restaurants of very good quality. I recommend 2:
- Hsian Ting Tang: Arribeños St between Mendoza St and Olazabal St. Taiwanese style. VERY good ambience and food.
- "Todos Contentos" (Everybody Happy): The oldest and most famous of the neighborhood. Arribeños between Mendoza and Juramento.
Both are damn cheap (ar$15-20 maximum per person to feast like corrupt Roman Senators). During daylight, you can buy Chinese food and gifts in the 3-4 Chinese supermarkets nearby.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Andres,
Thanks for the tips on restaurants. It's nice to get tips on different restaurants. As much as I love the Parrillas they can get old after a while.
You are 100% correct about that neighborhood I went to. That is why I didn't mention the neighborhood initially. NO reason anyone of us should be in that neck of the woods. Probably not a safe area. The 3 of us stood out like sore thumbs. Probably was a blessing in disguise they didn't let us in.
It's hilarious though some of the experiences I get myself in. Funny stuff happens to me that people would never believe happens. My friends are always cracking up at real life events. Life is what you make of it. You can live it or watch it go by.
You should have seen the expressions of these dudes that were at that place we went to. LOL! They were like "what the hell are you doing in here?????!!!". I could tell UWPhoto and Kick Stand wanted the hell out of there. I was arguing with the manager for a good 8 minutes or so.
Would I go back? Hell no. I'd never go back and recommend that guys stick to places that are well reviewed on this site. There are a few private gems out there that some of the guys know but you'll have to discover them on your own. Good luck.
Saint