American Politics during the Obama Presidency

Just watched the Fox segment. Quite interesting amd informative. I now have a much better understanding of how the Acorn debacle relates to Obama. Albieght it's a dotted line, though where there's smoke there may be fire. Quite informative. For those of us who still derive our livelyhood in the US certainly the concept of "redistributung wealth" is just totally in outer space. For those "on the dole" I'm sure it sounds great!

Happy Mongering All.

Except the serial antagonist Ricardo!

You can kiss my $SS!

Toymann


To my Buddy Bob. What's the shortest book ever written?

What I Love About America! by Michael Moore, edited by Nancy Pelosi

Monger on Bobby. Toymann

[QUOTE=Miami Bob]Your response will be partician bull shit. As is my response to partician bull shit about the president. Hate him all you want, be don't claim to be objective. The birthers are also another facinating movement. My sister, who is a physician recieves three email+ per day telling her about the secret plan to put all md's on a less than $100,000. Per year salary.

Michaels More's new movie will infuriate most of the regular posting members.

It is about the abuses of unregulated capitalism where the real power is the multinationals, the insurance and drug industires and all pretense of a true democracy is slipping away--Michael More knows nothing about economics, but.

Likely will have more than a few legitimate complaints will will be lost his his editorial commentary and twisting of a few key facts.[/QUOTE]The abuses of unregulated capitalism pale in comparison to the abuses of unregulated government. Unregulated government gives you paradises like North Korea and Cuba.

I haven't heard of many people risking their lifes to live in countries with unregulated governments. However, millions of people have risked their lifes to live in countries with unregulated capitalism.

P.S. my dream is to see that fat piece of shit Michael Moore on an inner tube, paddling to Cuba, surrounded by sharks.

I have grown to like Ricardo and even agreed with him on something (forgot what that was) In fact, I am hoping that I will be able to buy him a drink when I return. Miami Bob can vouch for the fact that despite my "moderate, middle of the road perspective" on politics, I am perfectly enjoyable company in a loud (loud enough so you can't hear me talking) bar full of beautiful women (to distract me from discussing politics) However, with all due respect, I must call out our intelligent, liberal friend on this egregious response.

To defend Acorn with "two wrongs make a right" is the stuff of pure partisans that don't process the information. I am certain that Ricardo will, upon further review provide a much more thoughtful post on Acorn, independent of the "it's Bush's fault" cover.

The accounting for the cash that was doled out in Iraq is incomplete at best but totally unrelated to Acorn. The fact that government waste is a cancer on our society and economy and that it exists within every nook and cranny of our government is one of the single best arguments for smaller government.

FYI, most of my friends are more liberal than me (tongue in cheek--I. E. Less conservative--get it?

[QUOTE=El Alamo]P. S. My dream is to see that fat piece of shit Michael Moore on an inner tube, paddling to Cuba, surrounded by sharks.[/QUOTE]Right on Alamo! You kill me. I'm Sure even Liberal Bobby is laughing about this one. Monger on Dude!

Toymann

BO is a do-nothing President, or so it's suggested.

Saturday Night Live brings a little levity at BO's expense in it's opening skit this past week.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cfk2UKewTU[/url]

I sympathize with President Obama on this one. However, I wish President Obama would cut through the shit and make a decision.

If you take the long view, Afganistan is never going to be a viable country. If it were up to me we would be taking our boys out of harms way on the next flight out. Let somebody else worry about that worthless wasteland

In my opinion, every one of our boys killed in Afganistan is a waste and a disgrace.

We can leave Afganistan now or we can get our butts kicked out later. Even if we could clone Alexander the Great, it wouldn't make any difference. Even pretty boy Alexander had to pickup camp and leave.

When are we going to learn. The lessons are there I. E. Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lebanon, Haiti, Panama, Granada, Somalia, Iraq and Afganistan. Don't go into those shitholes. No es un asunto nosotros (It is not our problem)

[QUOTE=El Alamo]In my opinion, every one of our boys killed in Afganistan is a waste and a disgrace.[/QUOTE] Thank-You El Alamo. Restore the Draft (no exemptions) and all this shit will come to an end.

Even Ricardo agrees with me on this one.

Afganistan is a place we shouldn't be.

Reagon sent troups to Lebanon but much to Reagon's credit he realized his mistake and pulled the troups. Does anyone think the situation in Lebanon is worse today because we left? Fuck no.

Bush Senior or Clinton sent troups to Somalia. One of the two pulled our troups. Does anyone think the situation in Somalia would be better if our boys were still dying there. Fuck no.

If I were President Obama I would tell the fucking generals in Afganistan to stick it up their filthy asses.

Twenty years from now nobody will remember that we were in Afganistan except the families who lost their sons in that worthless shithole. Furthermore, there will not be one iota of evidence that our presence in Afganistan benefited even one person for even one second.

P.S This might be shocking but Afganistan is not on the verge of developing a hydrogen bomb. Afganistan would be lucky if they figured out how to fry an egg.

[QUOTE=El Alamo]The abuses of unregulated capitalism pale in comparison to the abuses of unregulated government. [/QUOTE]But that should be no reason to not attempt to correct the abuses of unregulated capitalism.

[QUOTE=Ricardo]

George Washington made it clear from day one that civilian control over the military is paramount in a democracy.[/QUOTE]More important was what Eisenhower said.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

The war machine has much more influence than any general or president. If a general or president stands up to them they are liquidated, plain and simple. This also applies to foreign leaders that don't agree.

I once worked for the "Lazy B ranch" making things that could give you a permanent orange afro, most are still classified. Yes I stole that line from Akaroid. The war machine corporations run the US govt, and have for 60 years. If you don't believe it your in fantasy land.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Gato Hunter]The war machine corporations run the US govt, and have for 60 years. If you don't believe it your in fantasy land.[/QUOTE]One of the most accurate statements on this entire board.

[QUOTE=Schmoj]One of the most accurate statements on this entire board.[/QUOTE]Even Sydney has to agree with this. We agree at last!

How do we regulate and keep government reasonably under control? That is the trillion dollar question? Both parties are corrupt. John McCain spent years trying to pass legislation to reform the election process and power peddling. He and teddy kennedy worked together on two diffenent occassions and couldn't get either a republican nor democratic congress to reform the process.

I personally criticize michael more and wish the he would just stifle himself a little bit--to be more of a journalist so that more people would take more of his critiques more seriously. His movie SICKO was great, but again a little over the top. It influenced one executive at Cigna health to blow the whistle on their internal policies. He was so moved by more's movie that he destroyed his own carreer in the health insurance industry. Guilt as the corruption he was part of daily. There has been no regulation. The regulation is worse than the corruption?

You are always about the hugs dude! LOL! I'll be bangin one of your're honeys in less than two weeks buddy. Now the details of that encounter will warrant a coffee! LOL. A full report will be forthcoming under the cloak of silence, as always. Monger on Dude. Toymann

PS. Now you know why we never talk politics Bob. Better for our relationship. LOL.

I assume this is the right thread to pass this along.

According to a new international survey that measured the global image of 50 countries, the U. S. Is once again the most admired country globally.

Here's a link: [url]http://www.gfkamerica.com/newsroom/current_pr/index.en.html[/url]

The study - "The 2009 Anholt-GfK Roper Nation Brands Index (NBI)" - shows the U. S. Re-taking the top spot as the country with the best overall brand, up from seventh last year.

The survey, conducted by GFK Roper Public Affairs & Media, part of the world's fourth largest market research company, interviewed 20,000 people in 20 rich and developing countries around the globe rated 50 nations in categories such as culture, governance, people, exports, tourism, landscape and education.

What is really the news here is that the U. S. Reclaiming top billing is attributed to international respect for President Obama and his administration.

"There is no other explanation," according Simon Anholt, the founder of NBI, the polling agency, referring to the impact of Obama.

Apparently Anholt is one of the world's leading authorities on national image and identity. His operation CBI advises national, statel and city governments on their identity and economic marketing strategies.

In an interview about the study, Anholt claims that during Bush years, the U. S. Suffered in the world ranking with its unpopular foreign policies.

Anholt says: "What's really remarkable is that in all my years studying national reputation, I have never seen any country experience such a dramatic change in its standing as we see for the United States for 2009" since Obama was elected.

He points out that improvement in its standing came about, despite the fact that the world's economic problems spread from the U. S.

We're Number One. Sounds good for a change!