Black

Not really, she's more a variation of Meg Ryan, with some latitude, but still very pretty, about 8-9.

Although I was told she's there frequently, she didn't seem to be a pro at all, and my guess is that she's probably a [very recent] newcomer. Am I ready for a surprise? I don't know. Anyway, her two other friends (also good looking) seemed to be "dilletantes", maybe girls from out of town that come to BA for a few days - and stick to foreigners only.

[QUOTE=Sebascot]Robert,

Was she kind of Paris Hilton looking? If so, she has been there a at least 3 or 4 years now.[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Black tonight for the first time in years. I got there about 2:15 in the morning. The place was packed with girls and American guys. It definitely is the destination for American tourists. I would say about 75-80% of the women there are no better than what you would find at any private apartment in Buenos Aires. The other 15% or so are maybe 7-8's. About 1-2% 9's. I spoke with a group of 3 Brasilians. I seem to be running into a lot of Brasilians on this trip. Two of them were 4's and one was a 9 on my scale which is pretty high. Unfortunately the 2 4's were the ones that spoke most to me. They told me that many of the girls in the club will not go to apartments. They will only go to hotels for safety reasons. Right before I left, I went up to the 9. Her name is Diana. Blond, tall, thin, decent sized chest and fresh off the boat from Brazil. She could be a fashion model. She quoted me $150. When I said it aloud she said not to say it so loud that the other girls could hear. I seriously thought about it. But I added it up in my head and with the chica drink and the transitorio it would be about $200. I can't even get a massage and a happy finish from a 5 from where I'm from for $200. But I'm not in the US, I'm in Buenos Aires and 600 pesos when all is said and done is about 3 visits to a high end apartment. I offered her 300 pesos which was met with a solid no.

The dancers were hot, but not nearly as hot as the Madaho's ones from the night before. There was one dancer at Madaho's that if she said I could take her for 1000 pesos I would have gone for it. Madaho's also has a higher percentage of 7-9's. All in all, I think Madaho's is the better choice. Better girls, better dancers, better atmosphere and lower prices.

What never ceases to amaze me about the reports on this place is the broad discrepencies between reports. Some guys rave about the hotties in the place, others complain that there are nothing but pigs - and in reports covering the same general time span. In no other place in BsAs have I noticed the disconnects between the various posters' reports. Interesting.

I think it has a lot to due with tastes. I like the tall model types. Some guys hate them. My perfect body can be someone else's rail thin. My chubby could be someone else's "I like something to hold onto." I think it's best if you read reviews from people you know or someone who has seen the same girl as you. Then you know how to rate the scale. Also, a lot of guys only go to the high end clubs so really don't know what the apts are like. Some of those girls in the apts could easily work in Black or Madaho's. Because girls of that quality work in the apts, I put similiar girls in Black or Madaho's in the OK category. The girls I think as 8-9's you will never find in an apt.

[QUOTE=Hunt99]What never ceases to amaze me about the reports on this place is the broad discrepencies between reports. Some guys rave about the hotties in the place, others complain that there are nothing but pigs - and in reports covering the same general time span. In no other place in BsAs have I noticed the disconnects between the various posters' reports. Interesting.[/QUOTE]

I tend to agree with JustGotBack. I also like the tall model types, and those most guys would consider hot (mostly huge boobs, huge ass) I discard, simply.

Thanks for the tip on Diana, I'll look her up, next time.

BTW, you can also try to get their cellphone number and let us know. It would be a great service!

I'm still looking for those "top model" types.

[QUOTE=JustGotBack]I think it has a lot to due with tastes. I like the tall model types. Some guys hate them. My perfect body can be someone else's rail thin. (The girls I think as 8-9's you will never find in an apt.[/QUOTE]

Second night in town, I went to Black around midnight. The place was crammed full of attractive women - at least 30 and probably 40 total. There was barely any room for customers.

I lingered at the bar for quite a while, checking out all the talent and narrowing down my choices. A few with the requisite looks also demonstrated the right attitude. However, while chatting with some expats on the couches under the big screen, I caught sight of the hottest red head I have ever seen. Probably 5'4", 100 lbs. Long auburn hair almost to the waist and an extremely classy look. I waved her over and found out that her name is Marciela, and that she's from Rio.

Long story short, she quoted me $300 USD for una hora and $400 USD for TLN. That sounded very high, based on what I have read here. I countered in pesos and that was met with a resounding no. We settled on $300 USD for TLN and headed back to my place. I know that this was too much, but she was uncommonly attractive and I was feeling stupid.

At my house, service was sensual and nice, but not especially hot. No deep kissing, and everything covered. Still, a very good experience until it came time for round two. She claimed that I "hurt" her in round one and just wanted to cuddle. Realizing that I had (1) overpaid and (2) paid upfront, both despite my better judgment, I threw in the towel and showed her the door after a little back and forth.

So I'm left with a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, having paid US prices for what was only slightly better than a US experience. Black was quite a scene tonight, but I'm not sure if I'd repeat, based on this experience. My poor language skills probably contributed to the way negotiations went, but the bait and switch is another matter entirely. The drink prices were also ridiculous -$40 for my drinks and $50 for hers.

[QUOTE=Breakawaytx]Second night in town, I went to Black around midnight. The place was crammed full of attractive women - at least 30 and probably 40 total. There was barely any room for customers.

I lingered at the bar for quite a while, checking out all the talent and narrowing down my choices. A few with the requisite looks also demonstrated the right attitude. However, while chatting with some expats on the couches under the big screen, I caught sight of the hottest red head I have ever seen. Probably 5'4", 100 lbs. Long auburn hair almost to the waist and an extremely classy look. I waved her over and found out that her name is Marciela, and that she's from Rio.

Long story short, she quoted me $300 USD for una hora and $400 USD for TLN. That sounded very high, based on what I have read here. I countered in pesos and that was met with a resounding no. We settled on $300 USD for TLN and headed back to my place. I know that this was too much, but she was uncommonly attractive and I was feeling stupid.

At my house, service was sensual and nice, but not especially hot. No deep kissing, and everything covered. Still, a very good experience until it came time for round two. She claimed that I "hurt" her in round one and just wanted to cuddle. Realizing that I had (1) overpaid and (2) paid upfront, both despite my better judgment, I threw in the towel and showed her the door after a little back and forth.

So I'm left with a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, having paid US prices for what was only slightly better than a US experience. Black was quite a scene tonight, but I'm not sure if I'd repeat, based on this experience. My poor language skills probably contributed to the way negotiations went, but the bait and switch is another matter entirely. The drink prices were also ridiculous -$40 for my drinks and $50 for hers.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised you are aware of this board as you obviously have not read or taken on board ANY of the information to help in paying the going rate.

Was it a hooker you took or a lawyer, that's about the going rate here in London for a average lawyer per hour.

Any body going to BsAs for the 1st time, see what happens when you don't listen and pay upfront, poor service. This chica in 1 hour earned nearly the average monthly salary. Makes you think!

Lawyer, hooker, what's the difference? All either of them ever do is screw people.

DH,

The difference is that screwing hookers feels much better!

And Breakawaytx, you got what you deserved. All information you need to avoid what happened to you is here in the forum. You made all possible rookie mistakes at once, some of them are:

- going into Black.

- going for looks only, "hottest", "classy" - she is selling her looks, not her service.

- paying up front.

- even discussing U$S.

- not reading the FF.

There certainly are some more.

Advice, hook up with some of the experienced mongers, and get the real BA taste.

2 centavos de.

El Alemán.

Who has made better experiences in the U. S.

It makes me sad to think that Western men are having such fucked up experiences with women at home that they would come to Argentina and drop $300US on a blow up doll and not be FURIOUS. It's too bad that this guy probably won't stick around in Buenos Aires long enough to realize how ridiculous his entire experience was. That should NEVER happen in B. A. Actually this guys experience was worse than fucking a blow up doll because the doll would put out all night without bitching.

[QUOTE=Breakawaytx]We settled on $300 USD for TLN and headed back to my place. I know that this was too much, but she was uncommonly attractive and I was feeling stupid. [/QUOTE]This HAS to be a gag - I'm not buying it.

David

I don't think it's wrong to go into Black, per se, if you know what you're getting into, but you definitely have to draw the line at $200 USD. I mean, MAXIMUM you've got to stop there. And pay afterwards.

Breakawaytx, you're even making me look good.

Read the forum!

[QUOTE=Breakawaytx]We settled on $300 USD... [/QUOTE]No offense, but that's insane.

SL

Black is not the place to go if you don't know how to negotiate or handle a chica. On the other hand, the selection is much better than in any other boliche, in my opinion, so I'm not going to cry too much at the thought of Breakway spending a little too much money.

And think about it - when you add in a 1400 dollar plane ticket, an apartment or hotel for 50-150 dollars a day, food, and other expenses, spending an extra C note or two on pussy doesn't strike me as either a tragedy or as a budget breaker.

We all have to learn our lessons the hard way. The only people on this board who claim they've never overpaid are simply liars.

Thanks to this forum no one has to learn the hard way. If everyone would just show a modicum of intelligence and read the FF and just say have the balls to just say no to outrageous prices, then there would be no problems.

Amazing he knew of the forum and still got burned. Sounds like a lot of guys who evidently are too lazy to RTFF and just went on his own.

Suerte.

Stowe

I have to agree with El Aleman when he says to latch onto some more experienced mongers for the Black experience. I have gone to Black a few times, but I always went during my early trips with other, more experienced mongers instead of as a lone wolf. I learned from reading the forum, listening to my wingman and other mongers I met back then. I know that many of us do like to hunt as the lone wolf sometimes, but even wolves run in packs as they grow until they learn the lay of the land. My experiences at Black were made much better by the assistance of all the mongers that went with me back during those early BA trips to show me the ropes. I hope other new mongers read this forum and learn from others mistakes after all, that is one of the reasons we share this info for everyone's benefit.

Coach

HG, certainly it's not wrong per se to go into Black, but in the contesxt of Btx' experience, it was one in a row of mistakes, which finally lead to desaster: overpaid and a lousy session.

I am sure everybody hanging out on this forum who is honest to himself (you are so right, Hunt! Has his record of mistakes. I had lousy sessions (and devoped a dislike for Dominicanas in the way) I overpaid (especially when the little head took over thinking) I went along despite some inner voice telling me that this is no good (and at the end it was no good) etc. On the other side, without the forum and the personal guidance by some of the folks here, things would certainly have been a lot worse. A hell of a lot.

And Btx' story really sounds like the "How to" get fucked - but not the way you like it!

2 centavos de.

El Alemán

[QUOTE=Hunt99]And think about it - when you add in a 1400 dollar plane ticket, an apartment or hotel for 50-150 dollars a day, food, and other expenses, spending an extra C note or two on pussy doesn't strike me as either a tragedy or as a budget breaker.[/QUOTE]Well, on the other hand, when you think that a high-end escort in many U. S. cities is $300 USD, the whole point of spending all that money to come and stay here is to fuck until you've made a profit.

And you simply cannot do that if you're spending $300 a throw down here.

SL

Went to Blacks last night to see what all the hype was about and I was very not impressed. There were alot of girls maybe 30 to 35 last night and just as many dudes. Out of the 30 or so girls I would classify about 12 as doable and out of those about 5 were I would says 7's. There were no 9's to speak of at all. I would say based on just body there were a few 8's but when you factor in the face, They go down a notch to about 7.5's.

I was given a tip from Ruggero and for anyone that doesn't know it I will pass it on. I have been told never to take a taxi directly to Blacks because the taxi will get a commision and they will charge you more for it, I don't know how true this is but I do know they get tips for bringing clients in. So I was told .

Just ask the taxi cab to take you to the Alvear Hotel and just cross the street.

I talked to 2 girls there, One of them was a big breasted babe with long reddish brown hair with blonde streaks, She actually had a great body but she was a little older for my taste, she said 29 but I would guess 35. Again she had a great body with huge mellons but I let the big head talk so I didn't bite. She started off by saying that the least she could ask for was 200 USD. I told her to take a walk and she countered with," well how about we start over " hehe.

I told her I wasn't interested, I felt bad after a while because she kept looking at me with this sad look as though I had rejected her or something. But in truth I didn't I just didn't like the fact that she treated me like a yokel. I will probably end up going back and picking her up for 400 pesos for TLN. I am sure its possible.

I also talked to another girl and I actually bought her a drink, just because it was late and I wanted to go home and besides, she looked thirsty. To be honest this girl was LAME, she started off by saying 300 USD and the lowest would be 200 USD and she didnt give up the cola (WHICH I DIDNT EVEN ASK HER FOR) So I knew it was going nowhere from the start. At this point I had lost all interest allready, but I decided to enjoy myself, I offered her 100 USD for the rest of the night, she countered with 150 (its funny how fast they go down from 300 USD for one hour to 150 USD for the whole night)

Anyways I had no desire to take her home. Not only had she started off all wrong by saying NO to cola, but she also told me that NO girls from Blacks give up the cola. To which I literally started laughing at her, since the previous girl had offered it up with no problem. Well that was about it. I sent her on her merry way.

I ended up spending 10 pesos each way with the taxi and 40 pesos for the entrance and 80 pesos for her drink. All in all 140 pesos down the drain. A lesson learned. Though in truth there WERE about 4 to 5 girls that were really doable and for 200 USD I might go back and pick them up for the whole night.

It wasn't rediculously expensive but for the quality of chicks in there. They are smoking some good ish if they think they are worth 200 to 300 an hour.

Badboy.

PS I think they slipped me a bunk 10 peso note with some change, I am not sure if it was there but chances are it was. So you guys need to double check all your notes even if its dark as hell in there.

Oh yeah and by the way, there was a previous thread that Jackson posted about some girl who was setting up home burglaries and stealing guys laptops. I saw her ass there. I am 100 % sure it was her, same nose and same flat body and blonde hair. So to any guys that don't know whats up, watch out for that one.

I will probably go back tomorrow and pick up this luscious 20 year old brazilian with a gorgeous set of tits. I'll let you guys know how it went

Good post, but I see only one thing wrong. You talk about the costs for drinks and taxis in pesos and then chica costs in us dolars. I think you should tell the bitches you have no dollars and to only deal in pesos. They will get you with dollars. Blacks is a funny place. Those chicas think they are playmates. But when you turn them down, they do look at you with those puppy dog eyes, and continue to do so until you leave with another woman or just leave. I like to make Blaks a first stop for the night just for some laughs or the last of the night to possibly get a good deal if that is what I am after for the night. Anyways have fun.

[QUOTE=Badboy13]Went to Blacks last night to see what all the hype was about and I was very not impressed. There were alot of girls maybe 30 to 35 last night and just as many dudes. Out of the 30 or so girls I would classify about 12 as doable and out of those about 5 were I would says 7's. There were no 9's to speak of at all. I would say based on just body there were a few 8's but when you factor in the face, They go down a notch to about 7.5's.

I was given a tip from Ruggero and for anyone that doesn't know it I will pass it on. I have been told never to take a taxi directly to Blacks because the taxi will get a commision and they will charge you more for it, I don't know how true this is but I do know they get tips for bringing clients in. So I was told to.

Just ask the taxi cab to take you to the Alvear Hotel and just cross the street.

I talked to 2 girls there, One of them was a big breasted babe with long reddish brown hair with blonde streaks, She actually had a great body but she was a little older for my taste, she said 29 but I would guess 35. Again she had a great body with huge mellons but I let the big head talk so I didn't bite. She started off by saying that the least she could ask for was 200 USD. I told her to take a walk and she countered with," well how about we start over " hehe.

I told her I wasn't interested, I felt bad after a while because she kept looking at me with this sad look as though I had rejected her or something. But in truth I didn't I just didn't like the fact that she treated me like a yokel. I will probably end up going back and picking her up for 400 pesos for TLN. I am sure its possible.

I also talked to another girl and I actually bought her a drink, just because it was late and I wanted to go home and besides, she looked thirsty. To be honest this girl was LAME, she started off by saying 300 USD and the lowest would be 200 USD and she didnt give up the cola (WHICH I DIDNT EVEN ASK HER FOR) So I knew it was going nowhere from the start. At this point I had lost all interest allready, but I decided to enjoy myself, I offered her 100 USD for the rest of the night, she countered with 150 (its funny how fast they go down from 300 USD for one hour to 150 USD for the whole night)

Anyways I had no desire to take her home. Not only had she started off all wrong by saying NO to cola, but she also told me that NO girls from Blacks give up the cola. To which I literally started laughing at her, since the previous girl had offered it up with no problem. Well that was about it. I sent her on her merry way.

I ended up spending 10 pesos each way with the taxi and 40 pesos for the ontrance and 80 pesos for her drink. All in all 140 pesos down the drain. A lesson learned. Though in truth there WERE about 4 to 5 girls that were really doable and for 200 USD I might go back and pick them up for the whole night.

It wasn't rediculously expensive but for the quality of chicks in there. They are smoking some good ish if they think they are worth 200 to 300 an hour.

Badboy.

PS I think they slipped me a bunk 10 peso note with some change, I am not sure if it was there but chances are it was. So you guys need to double check all your notes even if its dark as hell in there.

Oh yeah and by the way, there was a previous thread that Jackson posted about some girl who was setting up home burglaries and stealing guys laptops. I saw her ass there. I am 100 % sure it was her, same nose and same flat body and blonde hair. So to any guys that don't know whats up, watch out for that one.

I will probably go back tomorrow and pick up this luscious 20 year old brazilian with a gorgeous set of tits. I let you guys know how it went[/QUOTE]

Perhaps if Badboy had read this forum rather than spending his time articulating his political opinions, he would have learned that going to Black on the weekend is one of the cardinal no-nos. Monday through Thursday are the nights to go to this place.

In addition, newbies who lack experience and Spanish skills are more likely to be disappointed here than in some other places.

Black is definitely not the place for lightweight mongers who are looking for a quick and easy 5 peso blowjob without any of the challenges of negotiation and knowledge of the scene. So stay away, and leave the professional mongering to the professionals.;)

Thanks for the advice Hunt,.

I don't consider myself a lightweight anything and I also speak spanish well enough. And yes, I don't have much experience in the BA scene, but I have enough experience to not get burned for my hard earned cash. And just an F. Y. I I have never gotten a 5 peso blowjob or would I want one. I am not a bargain hunter by any means, it's just the talent at THAT club on THAT day wasn't worth 200 USD. I can also appreciate the fact that the weekend isn't a good time to go to Black, but DUDE, I came here on Saturday, what was I supposed to do sit and Jack off in my apartment.

I will also have you know that I have read many of the Black posts before I came here and nowhere did it say " don't GO ON SATURDAYS ". If anything I have learned on my own that on the weekends there seems to be slim pickings in BA, and that is something that I wasn't really prepared for. Live and learn.

But I will try again maybe tonight, my main problem in BA, is the whole night owl culture or maybe its the time difference, I am not sure but come 1 am I am usually sound asleep:D.

Badboy

Bad Boy.

I'm guessing by the nature of your posts your mid thirties.

If you can, try out Cocodrillo. I think it will appeal to you, on my last visit earlier this year it was my favourite club.

If your in BsAs next weekend arrange with a chica during this week to go for a meal Sunday, its what I do.

FH

I haven't been there in a while but Cocodrilo used to be the place where us trolling, inexperienced, pedantic, bottom-feeding mongers used to go to pick up Black girls for 150pesos after the ultra experienced mongers finished spending the mortgage payments on them. I stopped going all together because I have an allergy to rubber and as a result do not make a habit of fucking lifeless dolls.

Black was on my list of places to sample and I have to say was bitterly dissappointed. Small venue, very smokey (even though I smoke) not much place to sit, decor not that trendy or chic considering the prices. The chicas seemed a little desperate and would literally maneuver themselves directly into your path as if to say "hey gringo, why you look elsewhere, here look at me"! A couple of my mates had been at Blacks earlier in our stay and reported that they had had a good time but that the place lacked value for money. Sorry to all you Black fans but Black would not rate on my hit parade.

Came in tonight after dinner. Arrived about 11.30, in company of another well-known poster, and we counted a total of 12 customers on site. Girls numbered about 40, with both numbers steadily rising the longer we stayed.

No cover tonight. Quilmes was 40 pesos (and my customary Tanqueray and Tonic 50. Up from 35 six months ago.

My waitress of 5 years' standing is now living in Espana, a great shame and loss for me, as she was always a source of good recommendations and always made sure my needs (both alcoholic and sexual) were taken care of.

Girls tonight seemed of a lower quality than on my previous visits. Certainly there were 5-10 which I would have been happy to drill. But all-in-all, I think there was less of the high-class poon tang than I have been used to in this place over the years. Perhaps it is slipping, or perhaps it was just a bad night.

One thing to remember - they don't hire any girls except Caucasian ones here. Mulatas, Indianas, or Africans are non-existent.

I was overall disappointed, perhaps most of all because I wasn't able to discuss the state of the club with my long-time waitress. Even so, this has been the best club in town for so long, I would not count it out, out of hand.

The talent was pretty slim and awful looking. But again, it was Sunday.

I usually try to visit Black once or twice a trip, just for the experience. I have pulled Vanessa a couple of times, and written about it. Really, if you can splurge a little bit, she is a great date.

I visited Black again on my last trip a couple of weeks ago, and Vanessa was already with someone (though as always, she recognized me and said hi) so I decided to check out what else was available. It was pretty crowded that night, and I spoke to several girls. Pretty much I disregard the "buy me a drink" line and just chat up whoever I want to now. At 600 pesos a pop, I really do try my best to screen them here before buying a drink or taking one home. (This night, anyway, I don't think any girls asked me to buy them a drink before letting me chat at least a little bit first)

There was this one chick with really nice big tits practically hanging out, but she had a stern, distant look on her face. She looked like a living painting. I looked straight at her and said hello, and she just turned away. I suppose she will be one of the ones who charge more, and she could tell just by looking at me I wouldn't be one of her customers tonight. 600 pesos is more or less the floor here, and I imagine some of the girls charge more, and she is one of them.

I continued sucking on my one beer and working the floor, but wasn't too crazy about anything I was seeing and talking to. But I did notice a very pretty bleached blonde sitting at the bar who kept smiling at me when I went by. I'm normally very drawn to brunettes, but Vanessa is blonde (well, kind of a dirty blonde) and that worked out pretty well, so I try to start thinking about this one. She did seem to have a nice big pair of titties, and maybe they were even natural, from what I could see.

Finally I plopped down on one of the sofas just to check things out from a distance, and after a few minutes the bleached blonde appeared in front of me, smiling, but not aggressive or anything. I waved her over and she introduced herself as Sofia. After chatting with her for a few minutes, I started to get a good feeling, so I asked her, 600 pesos? Yes, she said, no problem. OK, I guess this is my night to splurge at Black. I waved at the waitress and ordered her a drink, and after some more chat, we were off to my apartment.

One minor digression, for some reason the taxi driver's meter wasn't working. I have had so few (really, zero) problems with taxi drivers in BA, I didn't think about it, but I should have gotten out of the cab and asked for another. Anyway, in the short trip I asked about him about it, and he brushed it off, saying something about a "tip". When we reached the apartment, I gave him a 10 and asked for a 5 back. He gave it to me, but I sensed some reluctance, and I told him we hadn't gone very far, and it's not my fault his machine is broken. When I got into the lobby of my building, I looked back towards the street saw that the taxi was still there, and the driver was waving vigorously. I couldn't tell if he was giving me the finger, but he was doing something. This struck me as quite humorous, because I don't consider myself a tough guy or anything, this old guy was half my size and I could have easily squashed him.

Anyway, up to the apartment. We had talked in the club about massages, and how we both liked them. She invited me to start with her first. No problem! She got undressed, and man, those titties were perfect C-cups and absolutely totally natural. I started rubbing her back and shoulders, then worked my way down to her legs, and then her feet, at which point I started hearing little moans of pleasure.

We switched, and she started rubbing me. She was pretty good. When she got down to my lower back, she started separating my legs a little bit, then my butt cheeks, and then I felt her tongue working its way up right into my nether regions. Wow! That's the first time that's happened to me since I started going to BA! Guess my foot rub paid off?

Then this gets even better. I absolutely hate putting that damn rubber bologna on my wiener, it is the greatest mood killer in my sessions with these girls. I read somewhere on the forum that a really good girl will slip on the condom without you even noticing it. That has never happened to me. Well, Sofia rolled me over and got on top, putting me inside of her, and damn if she hadn't done exactly that. It was quite pleasant to skip that awkward, mood-killing moment.

Then, I found myself enjoying her on top of me, and this was another novelty. I've had plenty of girls on top of me before, but I usually switch positions quickly, because this one just doesn't do anything for me. Now I know why. Sofia is the first woman who has gotten on top of me and obviously knew what she was doing. She held my arms down and rocked back and forth in a way that I could actually feel what was going on, and I enjoyed it. I almost finished, which is saying a lot, given this is my least favorite position and the bologna was on, but that was still fun. I flipped her over and then finished easily.

This was a really nice session. She was professional and knew how to do her part just right, but at the same time she was always smiling, nice, and talkative. I would definitely repeat (I didn't, for this trip, but primarily for budget reasons)

For Black lovers, I recommend Sofia or Vanessa.

P. S. Sofia searched her purse for some massage oil she thought she had, and couldn't find it. She thought maybe it had fallen out in the taxi. So for all I know, the taxi driver was yelling "Hey you crazy American! Your date left her massage oil in here!"

In attempt to confirm all the negative comments concerning Black, I will lend the post of my experience on 12/8/06.

I arrived in anticipation of top shelf options, an idea spawned as a result of a conversation, albeit brief, with a very credible source. However, there was a great departure from this reality. The average lady was approaching 35 yrs and I seriously doubt anyone had a legitimate claim of being less than 28. Pausing, I reassure all of you that age was not my major issue. Instead, it was the damaged goods parading around. Four of the ladies, one in particular, had major visible scarring on their stomachs or legs. The breast jobs were excessively lacking (I. E. Gaudy and rock-like) in quality and all ladies left too much to be desired. Our entry was $40 a person, same as the price per drink. All in all, I came hungry and left famished. As such, I too agree that this place should be avoided despite any lingering curiosities.

Wow, it seems like a lot of guys in the forum are down on this place. Yes, it is overpriced, and there are some dogs, but there are some beautiful women, too. Though attitude can be a problem, you have to be picky.

If these keeps up, guess I'll have the place to myself.

Naahhh. Too many suckers from the hotel across the street.

Okay, I know that I don't post here and while this is my second trip to BA. I figured that I owe a little payback for my lurking. While I refuse to go into Black's, I had Griselda (who works at Black's) come over to the mansion and gave her $140 pesos and I didn't even have to pay for the taxi. She took the train back.

She is quite reserved but she is nice once you get past the snooty attitude and has a very decent body.

Every girl who works at these clubs are available outside for a lot less and it's wise to talk them up and ask for their number. Sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't. But ultimately, as seen below, it could mean the difference between paying 400 to 600 pesos VS. 140 to 200 for the same type of girl.

Ok, so back in BA after a while. Went here and was a little surprised. I agree with some of what the others on this site write, but depending on your tastes, it's not a bad place. Probably have to go at the write time. There were some hotties, but for some reason I wasn't feeling it. I don't' know, maybe clubs are not the place. One thing is for sure. They definitely don't swarm all over you like in other places. If you like picking girls from clubs, then this is probably a must. I did see and chat with a Pamela Anderson look a like, but I didn't get her name. Will report more soon.

Jack

Headgames, I read your pleasent report and I need to ask to all members wich price do they think is fair for a pick at Black.

I've always, without negotiating and with full satisfaction of the girls, at around 300 / 400 pesos a truly GFE with the young ones. Not more. Why did you offer 600? It's not a critic just a clarification.

To be true only once, probably the most stunning I've ever seen in the club asked me 300 dollars. Unfortunately I declined.

600 pesos is the "standard" price at Black. A few will want more, and a few (very few) will settle for less. It is true that some of the girls who work at Black can be found in other locations around town, charging less, but not many, I think. I've seen one girl at Newport and Cafe Orleans, and another (just on one occasion) at Excedra. I've never seen Vanessa anywhere else, nor would I expect to.

To save someone else the trouble of posting a rebuttal at this point, I will go ahead and do it here:

"I can go into Black and pull out a Playboy model for 200 pesos. Sometimes I get them at Cocodrilo for 120 pesos. It helps to speak Spanish".

Thanks to all the posters who would have posted that, fortunately now there is no need.

I offered 600 to Sofia because I was tired and didn't feel like haggling, and also she was gorgeous and I didn't think she would go for less anyway.

Well they were Fuckingt a Gorgeous Chica that works at Black out at the Mansion Sunday for a $120 peso's.

She told me that in Black she quotes $200 US dollars.

I don't got to Black.

Exon

[QUOTE=HeadGames]

"I can go into Black and pull out a Playboy model for 200 pesos. Sometimes I get them at Cocodrilo for 120 pesos. It helps to speak Spanish".[/QUOTE]Well, I [b]have[/b] done it for 300, not 200, the last time I pulled a high-level chica out of there. And I do speak decent enough Spanish to be able to communicate.

But honestly, the ability to negotiate is really necessary if one wants to take a chica out of here. Shy people, guys who get fixated on a single chica, first-time visitors, and English-only speakers will have trouble.

I'll be the last one to criticize another fellow for what he pays, or the quality of his chica, as I have long said "the cock you please must be your own."

The last time I visited, in October, I was very disappointed with the selection available. I'm not surprised that one of the girls I saw was turning 120 peso tricks elsewhere - the ones that I saw last time were in the sub-100 peso category. Apartment girls, really, just one step better than the hogs I saw last time at Cafe Orleans.

For the first time on my visits to BsAs I felt that this place no longer occupied the top spot amongst boliches. But it has had the best talent for so long, that I suspected that it might have been just a temporary thing. And it does vary from night-to-night, as well. I'm not going to give up on this place just yet.

Here's my 2 centavos on the issue.

If you feel you want to pay that price then go ahead. If you feel you can't afford it, get a dictionary, a phone, and a copy of the Clarin. (Actually some of my best times ever were from the Clarin)

I speak pretty fluent Spanish. Board members who know me can testify to that. I don't need a dictionary to read the Clarin. There might be some other reason besides language that somebody might go to Black rather than pull girls from newspaper ads. To each his own.

Exon, just for that, I'm going back to Hook to see your girlfriend in January!

I'm new to this site. Long-time Rio hobbyist, and I'll be taking my first trip to BA in January. It sounds like the same thing is happening in BA (or at least at Black's) as has happened in Rio. Too many guys just accept the girl's asking price, instead of bargaining. Again, I don't know BA, but I know in Rio, if a girl asks for X amount, I generally counter with half that price and end up paying a bit more than half.

I guess some guys think they will get a better experience if they pay more, but I think it's actually the opposite. From talking with girls in Rio, they think the guy is a schmuck if he pays the "asking price."