American Politics during the Obama Presidency

[QUOTE=Cowpie]I wonder how many of the 650,000 jobs were union jobs, my guess at least 70% (cops, teaches, state employees)

Consider this: the folks he's targeting to pay for his socialist agenda is the evil white man.

The only CHANGE the "FOLKS" will see is the 2 nickels left in their pockets after this piece of shit completes his mission of running (redistribution) the US in the ground.[/QUOTE]Now we can call this "The redneck rant thread". At least Sydney is coherent. As for this.....Nothing more to be said.

Hey Stevie the union boy,

If only the American education system (run by unions) taught people to think and reason in a coherent manner, the world would be a better place.

I'm disappointed in your responce Stevie, this was an opportunity for you to put on display your union training. Instead you took the easy way, which makes you look like the fool you are.

I suggest you continue to hone your limited skills, maybe it will pay big dividends (taxable of course) when OBAMA owns your sorry ass and leaves you without your 2 nicklels.

Really it is.

[QUOTE=Cowpie]Hey Stevie the union boy,

If only the American education system (run by unions) taught people to think and reason in a coherent manner, the world would be a better place.

I'm disappointed in your responce Stevie, this was an opportunity for you to put on display your union training. Instead you took the easy way, which makes you look like the fool you are.

I suggest you continue to hone your limited skills, maybe it will pay big dividends (taxable of course) when OBAMA owns your sorry ass and leaves you without your 2 nicklels.[/QUOTE]Hey Cowpie, the ignorant redneck.

Not in a union, don't pay taxes.

Suggest you look up the word ignorant in the dictionary.

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[QUOTE=Sidney]The Wall Street Journal is calling Nancy Pelosi's 1,990-page Government takeover of healthcare the "worst piece of post-New Deal legislation ever introduced."[/QUOTE]The newspaper whose very name establishes it as the official pimp for the greedy fucks who tanked the global economy is hardly a credible source on matters of economics or politics or threats to the American middle class!

I think we should rename this thread "Sidney's Teaparty." Rant! Rant! Rant! Rant! Rant!

Oy.

[QUOTE=Sinistra]I think we should rename this thread "Sidney's Teaparty." Rant! Rant! Rant! Rant! Rant!

Oy.[/QUOTE]In support of Sidney Peron's hallucinations, the Generalisimo has "disappeared" the dissenters. He's been seen in his black-on-black uniform, dropping posts out of planes over the River Platte!

I'm pretty much a libertarian (think right of center economics, left of center on social issues) but this right-wing foaming is just nauseating and preposterous. I'm embarrassed by what has happened to the Republican party. Limbaugh, Beck and company make me sick of the party that I once proudly supported. But here's some general observations.

1. Stop this bullsh*t blaming Obama for deficits. I HATE deficits, but the theory is run a deficits during periods of recession to stimulate growth and run a surplus during periods of growth to even out the cycle. Bush ran us into a deep, deep hole during periods of growth with his dumb-ass war and his failure to tax sufficiently to cover costs. It was irresponsible pandering to his base. Now that we have to deficit-spend to recover from the greatest economic crisis of our lifetimes (on whose watch?) You're blaming Obama?

2. You suddenly CARE if big brother is watching? WTF? Who the hell rammed the Patriot Act down everyone's throat saying that those people who objected to it were giving aid and comfort to terrorists.

3. There's a reason why less than 20% of the American public now consider themselves Republicans. Don't read anything into these elections. Foaming at the mouth Tea-Douchebags are much more motivated to vote in an off-year election than normal, civilized people. Check out the percentage of the electorate that cast a vote and then come tell me that this was some great referendum.

I have to say, I mostly ignore these areas of the board thinking it a waste of time to get involved. But hell, I've been feeling pissy lately, so I thought I'd take it all out on Sid. Mind you, I think he's full of crap most of the time, I just don't bother to get involved.

Sid's points are after the bullets. I reply below.

•*I don't listen to Limbaugh, Beck, or others. But, it seems the lefties are at least as bad!

No, no they aren't. They aren't as loud, they aren't as bigoted, they aren't as holier than thou and they don't have a "this is MY party, if you don't like it LEAVE attitude. They don't practice slash and burn politics. Birthers. BIRTHERS for God's sake. Of those less than 20% of Americans who are Republicans that remain, most of them believe that Obama is from Kenya, even though there's not a shred of real evidence backing it up. Why? Because they want to believe it. You should hear what these bigots say. Don't even go there with the moral equivalence argument. "The other side is just as bad" is a crap argument used by those with nothing better in their arsenal. Not even close to being as bad, Sid. Not even close.

• Obama deficits dwarf Bush deficits. First, the bailouts started under Bush. Second, if you subtract out the stupid spending on a useless war, subtracted out interest on debt that Bush accumulated, it would be a hell of a lot more manageable. Plus, if Bush had been reasonable, we would have accumulated some surpluses in order to pay for this. Don't count bailouts, the war and interest payments against Obama. NOT his fault.

• Obomination's pandering is greater!

I don't know what this means. It's just an unsubstantiated ad hominem argument that you just threw out there. It sounds nice, but it's meaningless.

•*Obama has accelerated the problems with a totally incompetent recovery program.

Incompetent? Based upon what criteria? The old out of touch idiots on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal who are mad that they're getting their tax breaks taken away? The vast majority of economist think Obama is doing a reasonable job. His choices ranged from crappy to cataclysmic. Could he have handled it better? Sure. But he's a reasonable / rational person, unlike the idiots running the Republican party who pushed reasonable people with views like mine out. Remember, my economics are right of center, but I find myself unable to have a conversation with people on the far right who dominate the Republican party. At least I can have a discussion with Democrats.

As far as what you said about privacy and the elections, I don't disagree with you. Still, the Republicans are a mess and it's getting worse for them, not better. They are way worse off than the Democrats were during Reagan's time.