We can credit George Bush with having successfully protected the USA from terrorist attacks for 2,586 consecutive days since 9/11 while simultaneously having beaten Al Qaeda to a pulp.
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We can credit George Bush with having successfully protected the USA from terrorist attacks for 2,586 consecutive days since 9/11 while simultaneously having beaten Al Qaeda to a pulp.
Bob: His name wasn't Don. You mean Neil. Motherfucker should still be in prison for that shit. "Silverado" if you want to actually research it and get it right. Of course, I'm well aware that actually researching facts and getting things right are low priorities for the average Republican.
Now on to Jackson's post,.
Jax, I'm not going to audit your math but Clinton was president for (365 x 8) = 2920 + 2 leap years = 2922 days and nobody really fucked with us. And a bunch of banks did not fail, and he did not send many of our youths to be slaughtered.
I've known you for a long time now, and we seldom agree, and we don't see eye to eye, but can you honestly say that the US is in better shape now than it was when w took office?
Others are encouraged to weigh in as well. Look at where you were on Jan. 20, 2001 and tell me you are better off now.
[QUOTE=Jackson]We can credit George Bush with having successfully protected the USA from terrorist attacks for 2,586 consecutive days since 9/11 while simultaneously having beaten Al Qaeda to a pulp.[/QUOTE]The first terrorist attack was in 1993. That means it was almost 9 years (3285 days) before there was another terrorist attack, so we can thank Bill Clinton for keeping us safe most of that time and he did it without invading another country. If anyone really believes that ALL attacks can be prevented ALL THE TIME, especially in this day and age in a country with nearly open borders, they are delusional.
This is the only thing you repeatedly fall back regarding any REMOTE possibility of a positive to this idiot's presidency. And a large part of that is because it is obviously very difficult to attack us-even when we were not invading other countries 'to fight them there, rather than here'.
I guess you haven't kept in touch but Al Qaeda is very much alive and well, and adding new recruits in Pakistan.
Damn, you sure live in an incredible fantasy world-wish we could all live there and be out-of-touch with reality.
Stowe
[QUOTE=Stowe]Damn, you sure live in an incredible fantasy world-wish we could all live there and be out-of-touch with reality.[/QUOTE]Stowe,
That's funny, because this is exactly how I think you see the world.
Thanks,
Jackson
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"[I]It must be nice being an appeaser. You get to muddle along with your head in the sand while other good people, in the process of keeping the world safe for themselves, will inadvertently keep it safe for you too.[/i]"
[QUOTE=Darkme]This statement reveals a deep ignorance of the history, values and institutions of the USA. Setting aside the issue of whether or not socialism is good or bad, it's simply not part of the American character in any meaningful way.
A more reasoned prescription would take this into account.[/QUOTE]If you speak with many / most Republicans, they think we are already borderline socialistic as they are against Medicare and Social Security and to a point, they are correct. So in reality, there is socialism in 'American character'.
Suerte.
Stowe
[QUOTE=Miami Bob]
The Republican party has been taken over by the far right wing and lost it's balance.[/QUOTE]So true, which is probably one of the reasons I am no longer a Republican-I am sure there are other reasons, as well.
Suerte.
Stowe
[QUOTE=Jackson]Stowe,
That's funny, because this is exactly how I think you see the world.
Thanks,
Jackson.
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"[I]It must be nice being an appeaser. You get to muddle along with your head in the sand while other good people, in the process of keeping the world safe for themselves, will inadvertently keep it safe for you too.[/i]"[/QUOTE]The fact that you think I live in such a world gives more credence of your delusional state as you still think Bush has done a good job, while almost EVERY SINGLE survey show that ABOUT 75% of the US does not. So who is in touch with reality and who is not?
It is more likely that the 25% that continue to think he has done a good job are less in tune with reality than the 75% (and something like 85% of the rest of the world) that think otherwise.
It is EXTREMELY likely that there are more people in the world that are in touch with reality than not, so by looking at those numbers (which you claim to do- but of course, that is only true when the numbers support your re-conceived ideas) the majority are in touch with reality and the minority are not-in this instance.
So 75% of the US (and perhaps 85% of the world) see Bush the same as I do.
And yes, sometimes what the majority think is the correct perspective-as it is in this case. Bush is the worst president in history!
It was you who posted a reply to one of my posts about 3 weeks ago regarding the US economy, that we were all overreactive to a 'little economic problem', or something to that effect. That is definitely being out of touch with reality. And I know it is a lack of awareness of the situation.
Suerte.
Stowe
Jackson-
You should start behaving more like the Larry Flynt of Argentina "a smut peddler who cares" rather than as the Rush Limbaugh of Argentina role that you so obviously enjoy playing. If the people and views you politically support ever got full control of the United States they would put people like you out of business and in the big house. Let's not fool anyone here, didn't we all move to Argentina because its a socially free, liberal place where perverts (like Jackson, myself, and probably all the resident mongers on this board) are welcome. George W. Bush's neocon movement in fact hate people like you so why do you support them?
Suerte,
Rock Harders
[QUOTE=Rock Harders]George W. Bush's neocon movement in fact hate people like you so why do you support them?[/QUOTE]Rock,
Because we're in a war, and I want us to win.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=Stowe]The fact that you think I live in such a world gives more credence of your delusional state as you still think Bush has done a good job, while almost EVERY SINGLE survey show that ABOUT 75% of the US does not. So who is in touch with reality and who is not?[/QUOTE]Stowe,
I didn't say that George Bush did a good job.
What I said was that he did a good job on the two issues I specified.
Thanks,
Jackson
He has a different point of view. Respect it. He does not try to convert you and you don't have to convert him. He sincerely believes and you are not going to change his world view. He provides us this forum at very little or no costs. So cut him some slack.
I don't aggree with any of his politics, but I like and respect him. This is what freedom of speach and democracy is all about. I like and respect sid and obama--who I will vote for almost surely----makes sid absolutely crazy. Sid and I will cancel out each others votes while we share a bottle of wine and talk about the many areas where we can have an enjoyable discussion. I will hope to call both sid and jackson friends for many years and through many elections.
Bob
[QUOTE=Jackson]Rock,
Because we're in a war, and I want us to win.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]I like you as well but you were a rabid neo-con before the war, and in this thread just a week or two ago you asked the question "what exactly makes you believe shrub is a bad president" sic (sic means I'm using quotes but I'm quoting you for context not word for word right?
I don't remember ever reading one word by you that could ever be construed as criticism of this current regime. I respect your right to believe what you want but your refusal to see what perceive as reality was why I stopped responding to your posts in the political forum a few weeks ago. However I can't accept "Because we're in a war and I want us to win" as the reason you still continue to espouse the party line.
You're a true believer brother, let your freak flag fly.
I served in this countries armed forces my patriotism is above reproach, we can't win this war Jax, we couldn't win it from the beginning. The best we can hope for is a withdrawal with a semblance of honor, real honor will be impossible but we might be able to double speak our way into some.
For your info, I have always registered democrat. I was an officer in one of the largest democractic party clubs in NYC before moving to Miami. I spent many years stuffing envelopes and going door to door. I believed in our system and I know that my guys will not win 100% of the time. I do not vote democractic all the time. In florida I have nothing to do with local politics and should probably switch because the republicans control this state at the state and local level. The democractic party better reflects my world view and personal beliefs.
I work 60+ hours per week and do not have the time to google everything that I write about and my memory is far from perfect. I am a capitalist and want to be paid to work.
Without political connections, Neil and Barbara could have both been arrested in the aftermath of Ronnie's great and noble experiment in not regulating savings and loans, but instead leaving it to the invisible hand of the marketplace and the tax payers to bail out the aftermath.
An attorney that I knew killed himself when the regulators came into the savings and loan mess and his largest client's CEO went to prison.
I voted for poppy Bush because the Democratic alternative did not effectively do the job. Bush was better for the country. Today I will be proud to cancel out Sid's vote for McCain.
Kitty kelley wrote an interesting book about the Bush family--back four generations. The sections on W are not very complimentary. Jeb is the wonderkid--smart, hard working, articulate and far to the right of W or his dad. His governorship here was like a dictatorship.