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Yes, that would be a fact, when the Job Creators, with there Tax Breaks are not Creating Jobs.
[QUOTE=Punter 127; 425683]Wow, 'Food stamp usage is up 64% in the last four years".
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"And the cost is up 114% in the same period. '
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[url]http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/06/01/Whos-the-Biggest-Spender-Obama-or-Bush.aspx#page1[/url]
Yes, you are right 8% unemployment and the Job Creators are not creating Jobs.
[QUOTE=Jackson; 425742]Is that liberal code for "[i]We have the right to take your money because we think we can spend it better than you[/i]"?
And you postulate that I'm the one whose "[i]positions are based on ideology[/i]"?
In the mean time, let's not forget about.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
Here are a few more Cartoon's.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425736]There are many cartoon's About the dumb Republicans Politicians.
Here is a start.[/QUOTE]
I can see it now. Just like the rest of the Republican Politicians.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425758]Here are a few more Cartoon's.[/QUOTE]
Still stuck with their heads up you know where.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425760]I can see it now. Just like the rest of the Republican Politicians.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/08/24/americas-descent-poverty-paul-craig-roberts/[/url]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425760]I can see it now. Just like the rest of the Republican Politicians.[/QUOTE]So, one lone Republican candidate makes one remark that is universally condemned by every other Republican, and yet the Democrats continue to ignore these condemnations and pretend that the one lone candidate speaks for every Republican.
Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:
[size=3][b]8.3% unemployment and $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits![/b][/size]
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=Mpexy; 425751]Esten. Other than the singular exception of silver spoon inheritance, so let's leave that aside for now, curious what your take is on how most wealthy non-job creators became wealthy in the first place? Whether they are currently creating new jobs or not at the moment, where do you think that capital came from? [/QUOTE]
All sorts of ways. High-paying jobs, entrepreneurs, authors, inventors, real-estate and financial investments come to mind.
[QUOTE]Do you not imagine many created income for others whether having direct employees or not? And do you comsider sitting on wealth to be some sin or unfair somehow?[/QUOTE]No doubt some of the wealth trickles down. But only a fraction, and not necessarily into the local economy. Sitting on wealth is not bad per se. As Jackson says, it's their money. BUT.... that does not exempt them from playing a role in addressing our economic challenges, which includes our $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits. Further, when tax cuts for the wealthy are sold as good for the economy (aka "trickle-down"), and then these people sit on their money, this is evidence of flawed economic policy.
[QUOTE]Last. Really curious whether you've personally created one or more incremental new jobs?[/QUOTE]I have contributed to the consumer spending which is credited with supporting most of the jobs in this country, which would include the 4.5 Million private sector jobs created in the economic recovery. That includes local entrepreneurs who I've hired to do work for me, such as landscaping. The consumer is just as important as the businessman.
[QUOTE=Esten;425794]I have contributed to the consumer spending which is credited with supporting most of the jobs in this country, which would include the 4.5 Million private sector jobs created in the economic recovery. That includes local entrepreneurs who I've hired to do work for me, such as landscaping. The consumer is just as important as the businessman.[/QUOTE]
NO.
What was so hard about Mplexy's question Esten. Being a consumer doesn't create a job, it merely supports an already existing job. Why could you not answer his question? No big deal if you are not a job creator. No big deal at all! You are obviously risk adverse with whatever capital is at your disposal, if any (LOL). Most folks are not cut out to make it happen on their own in this big bad world. Not everyone is destined to be a chief, we need indians. Just say NO, I have never created a job through my own innovation or risk taking business venture. It's all good. I am somewhat surprised by your response though? Are you ashamed of your dependence on others to make a living? Don't be dude! Your kind never seems to give credit where credit is due. We all understand, your position is clear for everyone to see. Tick. Tick. Tick. Dude. Better put away some of your covetted salary starting tomorrow so you can afford our bet. Monger on Dude. Toymann.
Ps. You hired a kid to mow your lawn and you think you are now a job creator? IALOTFLMAO!
[QUOTE=Dccpa;425709]Sure the poor will spend the money you give them. And that will foster even more dependence upon the government. Food rots in the fields because those poor people would rather get a handout from the government rather than work. Time to let them learn that if you don't work, you don't eat. They will adjust quickly.[/QUOTE]If there were some great abundance of jobs available, but people unwilling to take them, you'd figure Romney would be all over this. But Romney tells us there are millions of people looking for work but no jobs.
You probably saw some show on Fox News, and concluded there was some major epidemic of laziness. When in fact it's probably a limited phenomenon, in certain areas, a limited number of jobs involved, and a multitude of reasons the jobs aren't being filled, not just people getting a handout being lazy.
Let's see you back up your post with some facts and data, and see how big this problem really is.
[QUOTE=Esten; 425796]If there were some great abundance of jobs available, but people unwilling to take them, you'd figure Romney would be all over this. But Romney tells us there are millions of people looking for work but no jobs.
You probably saw some show on Fox News, and concluded there was some major epidemic of laziness. When in fact it's probably a limited phenomenon, in certain areas, a limited number of jobs involved, and a multitude of reasons the jobs aren't being filled, not just people getting a handout being lazy.
Let's see you back up your post with some facts and data, and see how big this problem really is.[/QUOTE]Esten you are quite capable of looking up the articles yourself and at a minimum you should find articles on this issue from the US, New Zealand & Germany. Of course the number of jobs are limited, but the true question is why didn't any of those people who are drawing unemployment or welfare take those jobs? There are no multitude of reasons for the failure of those people to work. There were quotes in the articles from people stating that they could make as much by not working, so why work. Why don't you explain why people on welfare should be allowed to continue on welfare when jobs they are qualified to do go unfilled? I have a relative who works in a governmental disability office. Years ago, she was sympathetic to anyone filing a claim. Now she understands that most people applying for disability are quite capable of working.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't watch any news shows.
[QUOTE=Dccpa; 425801]Esten you are quite capable of looking up the articles yourself and at a minimum you should find articles on this issue from the US, New Zealand & Germany. Of course the number of jobs are limited, but the true question is why didn't any of those people who are drawing unemployment or welfare take those jobs? There are no multitude of reasons for the failure of those people to work. There were quotes in the articles from people stating that they could make as much by not working, so why work. Why don't you explain why people on welfare should be allowed to continue on welfare when jobs they are qualified to do go unfilled? I have a relative who works in a governmental disability office. Years ago, she was sympathetic to anyone filing a claim. Now she understands that most people applying for disability are quite capable of working.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't watch any news shows.[/QUOTE]Who ever is saying Obama will not be creating any new jobs is totally wrong. There will be 10's of thousands of new IRS agents to be hired to enforce Omaba (Romney) care! That's the type of job creation that we get when we continue to vote for nanny state candidates (Republicans included)
Fred
[QUOTE=Dccpa;425801].but the true question is why didn't any of those people who are drawing unemployment or welfare take those jobs?[/quote]Because when you create a safety net, some people will deliberately fall into it.
Unemployment and welfare are two prime examples of why liberal policies will always fail because they're based on completely inaccurate models of human behavior.
[QUOTE=Dccpa;425801]Why don't you explain why people on welfare should be allowed to continue on welfare when jobs they are qualified to do go unfilled?[/QUOTE]Because they vote for Democrats.
[QUOTE=Esten; 425796]If there were some great abundance of jobs available, but people unwilling to take them, you'd figure Romney would be all over this. But Romney tells us there are millions of people looking for work but no jobs.
You probably saw some show on Fox News, and concluded there was some major epidemic of laziness. When in fact it's probably a limited phenomenon, in certain areas, a limited number of jobs involved, and a multitude of reasons the jobs aren't being filled, not just people getting a handout being lazy.
Let's see you back up your post with some facts and data, and see how big this problem really is.[/QUOTE]Esten, you are making it too easy to knock the ball out of the park on this one.
There is an epidemic of laziness and this epidemic is fueled by ever increasing government handouts from Welfare, Food Stamps. 99 Weeks of Unemployment Payments, and now the great scam being perpetrated on Social Security for disability.
You want numbers and facts; they abound on this site with the well documented increases in ALL these pet Democrat projects to generate votes from a permanent underclass created by the Democrat party. Make them dependent and keep them dependent, that's Obama's slogan.
Surely you can not be so blind to not see it is the increase in 'entitlement ' spending which is driving the country under
Please show me statistics indicative of a relationship between the increase (or decrease) in welfare spending and the increase (decrease) in the duration of federal support the recipients had.
[QUOTE=Dccpa;425709]Sure the poor will spend the money you give them. And that will foster even more dependence upon the government. .[/QUOTE]