American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Sidney]Now isn't this something to think about!

If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!

(and the majority of the people don't care)[/QUOTE]The reason McOldguy is harping on this connection with Willam Ayers is because they are desperate. Ayers teaches education at the University of Illinois. He is not a "know terrorist" he is a known former militant, or as we would say today domestic terrorist from the 60's. Today he is a teacher of education.

They served on a panel for school reform, Obama recieved 200 bucks from him in his first run for office, but the last thing, well this could be important. They did have coffee together once, do you think they planned the events of 9-11, it was before that date. Perhaps they concocted the plan to bomb the Cole. Maybe they traded napalm recipes, what common garden tools make the best shrapnel? They did live in the same neighborhood, maybe they had a connecting tunnel between their basements and made pipe bombs for the IRA. Gimmy a fucking break.

McOldguy and the Beauty Queen, behind like a million points, are throwing all the pasta at the refrigerator praying something sticks. My own brother. Slightly to the right of Jackson, has even seen the light and will be voting for the "Obamanation." Unless Diebold Election Systems can deliver as promised your cause is lost brother. At least we will have a bootielicious first lady, that woman HAS to have some Dominican in her with back like that, there is always a silver lining brother.

Mongers-

Daddy Rulz has revealed the source of the ridiculous scorn that Sidney has for Obama! SIDNEY just cannot bear the thought of a black man fucking a black women, as SIDNEY considers all black women as his turf and personal property, and resents anyone other than himself enjoying a women from his personal "stable".

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]I don't remember ever reading one word by you that could ever be construed as criticism of this current regime.[/QUOTE]Here's one: I hold George Bush directly responsible for allowing this recent economic mess to develop. Sure, the Dems were the underlying cause for what happened by deregulating Fred and Fanny and pushing them to buy questionable loans, but it happened on George Bush's watch, and as the Captain of the ship, it was his responsibility to identify and prevent the problem. In this, he failed miserably.

Thanks,

Jackson

Syd, old sport,

I see you are still bereft of the virtues of just posting a link to an article and enticing people to go check it out by virtue of your own erudite commentary.

Like this:

[url]http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/12/pittsburgh-paper-picks-obama-pans-on-mccainpalin-ticket/[/url]

Pittsburgh Post Gazette slams McCain / Palin and endorses Barack Obama.

Here's an excerpt of Pittsburgh's endorsement of Barack Obama.

" It is about the strengths of Barack Obama, whose rise to prominence is not a fluke or national infatuation but the consequence of his remarkable skills — a keen intellect, noble intentions and the wit and grace to express them in ways that have inspired millions across the country. He has a rare gift exactly suited to the fearful times — he knows the language of reassurance and hope.

If his were just empty words, this would be just another cheap political gift. But what he says is carefully considered. In the debates and on the hustings, Mr. Obama has been the voice of moderation, combining common sense and compassion on issue after issue. When the subject turns to foreign policy, supposedly Mr. McCain's strong suit, Mr. Obama gives no indication that he will have to learn on the job."

Read it and weep baby.

It looks like mccain has given up on miami--obama is running 5 tv spots for every mccain spot. I usually watch the busniness channels and the Sunday morning political / talk shows had zero mccain spots in miami.

Pulll a boone pickens. Boone financed the swift boat tv propaganda. Go drop us$10, 000, 000. If you really believe what you are writing.

Yesterday, McCain said that Obama is not a terorist or an arab. He said this a a town hall meeting when one of his supporters was talking like you about her fears of Obama.

Ah Sidney, finally the "October Suprise"

HANNITY and Jackson should be room mates, since there always in bed together.

Exon

[QUOTE=Sidney]Already, many (most) are weeping as they see the huge declines in their ''funds'', their businesses, their properties, etc as the markets discount the Obomination's election. But the ''naive'' supporters, propagandized by his rhetoric, will be the weeping the most!

Old Sport, Sid[/QUOTE]Sydney, old sport,

I used to think you were just obsessed and wandering in your own Dali like desert, an empty landscape with giant birth certificates and statues of god fearing blacks pledging to war torn American flags but now it seems you're just a robotic McCain disciple making things up (lying) to beat the band. ". Markets discount the Obama election" No wonder we're in this mess, the Repub financial "wizards" can't shoot straight and had to be lead by the English Prime Minister to a "bailout" solution.

[QUOTE=Miami Bob]He has a different point of view. Respect it. He does not try to convert you and you don't have to convert him. He sincerely believes and you are not going to change his world view. He provides us this forum at very little or no costs. So cut him some slack.

I don't aggree with any of his politics, but I like and respect him. This is what freedom of speach and democracy is all about. I like and respect sid and obama--who I will vote for almost surely----makes sid absolutely crazy. Sid and I will cancel out each others votes while we share a bottle of wine and talk about the many areas where we can have an enjoyable discussion. I will hope to call both sid and jackson friends for many years and through many elections.

Bob[/QUOTE]I've thought a lot about this post and in the end I think you're misguided. This isn't the Buddy Forum. Although it doesn't have to be uncivil, this is about ideas on American Politics and although I also like and have reason to admire Syd and Jackson on other counts these points of view need to be called out for what they are. They are the lines of thought and advocacy that have gotten the US into the terrible position it has developed over the past 8 years and continued to support it. You cannot sweep this stuff under the rug. They cannot offer a balanced and thoughtful point of view, only a fringe partisan view. No one visiting this forum, which represents in it's own way American expats in Argentina, should come away thinking that these are acceptable American points of view. More articulate thinkers than myself need to keep confronting these corrupt ideas. This is the time, they're losing control and need all the help available rushing them out the door and back into the shadows.

[QUOTE=Rasmussen Poll]: 55% Expect Obama Victory, 15% Expect McCain Victory.

In a poll conducted Oct. 10, 55% of the voters now expect Obama to win the election and 15% expect McCain to win it. In mid-September, these numbers were 35% and 34% , respectively. What a difference an economic crisis makes. Clearly the voters have judged Obama better than McCain on the economy. In retrospect, having McCain suspend his campaign and parachute into Washington to take over the bailout bill and then have the House Republicans vote against the bill by 2 to 1 didn't make him look like a leader. Only after he got out of the way so Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Reo. Barney Frank (D-MA) could craft a new bill did it pass.[/QUOTE]Regards,

BM.

On the other hand, by November 2004 the Republicans had already fucked everything up badly enough it was intellectually inconceivable they would win the election, and look what happened. Go figure. You get media appealing to the lowest common denominator, popular culture appealing to the lowest common denominator, education appealing to the lowest common denominator, and you can see what the results are.