2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;425816]Please show me statistics indicative of a relationship between the increase (or decrease) in welfare spending and the increase (decrease) in the duration of federal support the recipients had.[/QUOTE]What is this decrease in welfare spending that you are talking about? That is a strange concept in the world today. Do you know anyone who if given more free money / services doesn't become more dependent upon that money / services? It is called human nature Matt.

Rather than me prove myself to you and Esten, why don't you prove me wrong?

You are the one who originally and initially stated that the welfare spending makes the poor more dependent on it. Did you just say that without seeing any indicators?
[QUOTE=Dccpa;425818]Rather than me prove myself to you and Esten, why don't you prove me wrong?[/QUOTE]

Waste Management is complaining that they are being deluged with untold millions of faded Obama posters in their trash collections. CGWNF (college graduates with no future) have enjoyed Obama about as much as they can.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as a sitting administration official, does not have any role at the Democratic National Convention next week in Charlotte. But she seems to gone out of her way to avoid the festivities, as she is traveling this week and next to the Cook Islands, Indonesia, China, Timor-Leste, Brunei, and Russia.

Cook Islands. Good choice. Smart girl. Stay as far away from Obama as possible. Obama is a stain on the fabric of America

The Impossible Dream!

He and his party can not even count, let alone balance the Budget.

Even screwing the Middle Class will not help.

[QUOTE=Dccpa;425801]Esten you are quite capable of looking up the articles yourself[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dccpa;425818]Rather than me prove myself to you and Esten, why don't you prove me wrong?[/QUOTE]Great job convincing us with all those facts and data.

[QUOTE=Toymann;425795]Ps. You hired a kid to mow your lawn and you think you are now a job creator? IALOTFLMAO![/QUOTE]Actually it was a guy probably in his 50's, running his own business by himself. I paid him a few hundred bucks to bring some machines to aerate, thatch and seed my lawn in the spring. The lawn is looking good, though I still have some more work to do.

What do you think was a bigger factor for this man deciding to start his own business. Tax cuts on his personal income, or consumer demand for his service?

[QUOTE=El Alamo; 425850]Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as a sitting administration official, does not have any role at the Democratic National Convention next week in Charlotte. But she seems to gone out of her way to avoid the festivities, as she is traveling this week and next to the Cook Islands, Indonesia, China, Timor-Leste, Brunei, and Russia.

Cook Islands. Good choice. Smart girl. Stay as far away from Obama as possible. Obama is a stain on the fabric of America[/QUOTE]Coffee stain, soy sauce stain, molasses stain, barbeque stain? Does not look too good on the white tablecloth? Finally, I get you.

Sounded Senile.

That is a big highlight for the republican party.

He has No Clue about the rest of the World's problems.

Come on Guys, you have been on his side for so long, and he does not have a Clue about you or I, and the rest of the world.

He read a Speech written for him, not his Words, from His Heart.

Come on Guys, I know You, You and I have More Brains, you and I do want is this Dumb Fuck picketing Your Pocket.

This is not Argentina, where you know what is going on, this is home and you can not see the writing On The Wall?

Think for Yourself?

On Twitter they say it is not a good Report.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425870]Twiter says not a good Report.[/QUOTE]Glad you are starting to see the writing on the wall WT69. You are now referencing twitter as your source. IALOTFLMAO!

You really lead a goofy and disconnected existance dude. The fact you would prefer Obamanation / Pelosi / Ried to the class act you watched tonight is truely a sad statement. This baby is all over but for the crying. Predicted this long ago. It's just a matter of time till the fat lady sings. Can't wait to see my boy slice and dice Obomanation in the debates. Your boy without telepromter on-board will be quite the show. Sorry you don't get it brother but at your age, sadly you never will! Maybe you'll do better in your next life? You seem pretty confused and sour in this one. As El Alamo put it so eloquently, you aspire to send pee wee herman to the plate in the bottom of the ninth needing a huge rally to win the day. I'm good calling up babe ruth or mickey mantle when the going gets tough! Great convention with some really cool chica speakers (Ann, Condi and Martinez rocked the house). Ryan was exellent and Romney closed the deal "big time". I know what you heard tonight from Romney didn't fit with your self-fullfilled prophecy but sadly thats all about you and nothing to do with Romney. It never fails to amaze me how dems love to howl at the moon, whistle past the cemetary, in spite of what is right in front of them. Tick. Tick. Tick. It's just a matter of time now. Say Hi to Nancy for me Dude. Toymann.

Ps. Bye the way. Just watch the bounce that this convention gives Romney with women voters. Romney has already closed the gap to 10 points. Don't be surprised if he ends up edging your boy with women voters at the ned of the day. Quite a turn around from 3 years ago don't ya think?

Where is the Truth?

Romney says Obama Wants to cut Medicare, buts the cuts go into the Health Care for you and I, and Jackson, even Toymann, (which I feel he does not need any his friends Help, even mine) , and the rest of Us. This is My True Love or Not.

Why do the lies go on."Romney says tax increases will not happen to the middle class". Lies, Lies. Middle class is around $43,000.

Search Google as to where you Stand, under Rowney's Plan.

Don't listen to Jackson and his uninformed dummies!

I respect his choices, but know he has not traveled to the sites he is judging over. I and an a lot of others have been to. But he want to be the Boss. Like Romney. Romney does not know all the answers. Neither does Jackson.

It is Good that Jackson has turned Peru over to another Moderator.

Sorry, Jackson, but you Need Us.

Some said Reagen's time was Great, Gingrich said he was, but check the history of Reagan and what he said?
He Said "Reagan's Time Will Never come Again."

Not the Greatest for the Working People.

Reagan let all the Nuts out the Mental Hospitals onto the streets, We still have them on Our Streets.

Don't come to San Francisco or you will be hassled by them.

They City's Chamber of Commerce does not care.

The Chamber does not come into the City to have dinner or see the shows,

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425872]Where is the Truth?

Romney says Obama Wants to cut Medicare, buts the cuts go into the Health Care for you and I, and Jackson, even Toymann, (which I field he does not need any us friends Help, even mine) , and the rest of Us. This is My True Love or Not.

Why do the lies go on."Romney says taxes will not happen to the middle class". Lies, Lies. Middle class is $43, 000.

Search Google as to where you Stand, under Rowney's Plan.

Don't listen to Jackson and his uninformed dummies!

I respect his choices, but know he has not traveled to the sites he is judging over. I and an a lot of others have been to. But he want to be the Boss. Like Romney. Romney does not know all the answers. Neither does Jackson.

It is Good that he has turned Peru, over to one that does.

Sorry, Jackson, but you Need Us.

Some said Reagen's time was Great, Gingrich said he was, but check the history of Reagan and what he said?

He Said "Reagan's Will Never come Again."

Not the Greatest for the Working People.

Reagan let all the Nuts of the prisons onto the streets, We still have them on Our Streets.

Don't come to San Francisco or you will hassle by them.

They City of Chamber of Commerce does not care.

They do not come into the City to have dinner or see the shows, [/QUOTE]You must be either high or drunk buddy. Go sleep it off and reread in the morning. I know you are sad at how well Romney and his crew did tonight. I guess if I was you and started seeing it all slip away I'd be tipped over as well. Get a good nights rest old fella. Monger on All. Toymann

I would like to hear how you would Make this country Great, without Government Help?

Maybe you can convince your Republicans to Create Jobs on what you say?

Which would not add more to the our Deficit?

FDR asked for help from Business, and they did help to build the Golden Gate Bridge and the rest of the county Prospered. and Grew.

The country Prospered.

Why Can't WE do that Now?

What is Your Proposal?
If you or your other Republicans or indies want to Help Our Country, What is Your Proposal, maybe your can email your congressmen and tell them to get off they're dead asses and Help our brothers and sisters to get a Job.

HAPPY LABOR DAY!
THANK YOUR WORKERS FOR MAKING YOU MONEY.

I Guess that does not apply to Right To Work States, just keep the cash registers working, Cha King, Cha King. Fuck you, no day off.
Or the Labor Workers in your off shore accounts that have to work 15 -20 hours a day for your or Romney's profits.

They are Lie ing to You and Us. Wake Up.
Greed, Greed, Greed.

[QUOTE=Toymann; 425871]Glad you are starting to see the writing on the wall WT69. You are now referencing twitter as your source. IALOTFLMAO!

You really lead a goofy and disconnected existance dude. The fact you would prefer Obamanation / Pelosi / Ried to the class act you watched tonight is truely a sad statement. This baby is all over but for the crying. Predicted this long ago. It's just a matter of time till the fat lady sings. Can't wait to see my boy slice and dice Obomanation in the debates. Your boy without telepromter on-board will be quite the show. Sorry you don't get it brother but at your age, sadly you never will! Maybe you'll do better in your next life? You seem pretty confused and sour in this one. As El Alamo put it so eloquently, you aspire to send pee wee herman to the plate in the bottom of the ninth needing a huge rally to win the day. I'm good calling up babe ruth or mickey mantle when the going gets tough! Great convention with some really cool chica speakers (Ann, Condi and Martinez rocked the house). Ryan was exellent and Romney closed the deal "big time". I know what you heard tonight from Romney didn't fit with your self-fullfilled prophecy but sadly thats all about you and nothing to do with Romney. It never fails to amaze me how dems love to howl at the moon, whistle past the cemetary, in spite of what is right in front of them. Tick. Tick. Tick. It's just a matter of time now. Say Hi to Nancy for me Dude. Toymann.

Ps. Bye the way. Just watch the bounce that this convention gives Romney with women voters. Romney has already closed the gap to 10 points. Don't be surprised if he ends up edging your boy with women voters at the ned of the day. Quite a turn around from 3 years ago don't ya think?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425872]Where is the Truth?

Romney says Obama Wants to cut Medicare, buts the cuts go into the Health Care for you and I, and Jackson, even Toymann, (which I field he does not need any us friends Help, even mine) , and the rest of Us. This is My True Love or Not, [/QUOTE]Our government can't afford to pay for the medical expenses of wealthy people like Toymann, in a system where health care is 17% of GDP. The health care system must be reformed to lower costs, via competition or whatever, and Obamacare did not solve that problem. Sorry about that Toymann, you need to pay for your own prostate exams.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425872]Why do the lies go on."Romney says taxes will not happen to the middle class". Lies, Lies. Middle class is $43, 000.,[/QUOTE]The lies are coming from Obama. I posted some info that came from the IRS's web site here that showed the Democrat plan to only raise taxes on those who make more than $250, 0000 (Obama) or $1, 000, 000 (Pelosi and Schumer) won't do diddly squat. The rich don't make enough money to balance the budget. If you don't cut spending, taxes MUST rise on the middle class, or the country goes bankrupt. My belief is that Romney's plan would lower taxes on the middle class and increase taxes on the wealthy. He's proposing a 20% across the board cut, and paying for it by getting rid of loopholes. The problem is that he hasn't specified the loopholes. The reason I think is because Romney expects people to lose enthusiasm for his campaign if they hear about their special loopholes being cut, be they the oil well percentage depletion allowance or investment tax credits or whatever.

This is a fiction of the Democrat party, that the middle class will get screwed by Republican tax cuts. Bush's tax cuts made the tax system more progressive. At a given level of income for all income groups, the wealthy pay a higher percentage of the taxes after the Bush cuts.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;425872]It is Good that he has turned Peru, over to one that does.,[/QUOTE]This is cryptic. Do you mean God has turned Peru over to Humala, one of Chavez's buddies, and he's going to straighten out Peru? Like Obama was going to straighten out the USA?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425872]Reagan let all the Nuts of the prisons onto the streets, We still have them on Our Streets. Don't come to San Francisco or you will hassle by them.

They City of Chamber of Commerce does not care.

They do not come into the City to have dinner or see the shows, [/QUOTE]I'm behind Reagan on that. The USA incarcerates a larger percentage of its citizens than any country in the world. We stick people in jail for using drugs, for being prostitutes, and for packing lobster tails in plastic (Honduran law, enforced by the USA Justice Department, required lobster be packaged in cardboard.) If you have to put up with some drug addict on the streets of San Francisco that you'd prefer be in jail, I don't have a lot of compassion for that.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 425872]I Guess that does not apply to Right To Work States, just keep the cash registers working, Cha King, Cha King. Fuck you, no day off.

Or the Labor Workers in your off shore accounts that have to work 15. 20 hours a day for your or Romney's profits. , [/QUOTE]So people should be forced to join unions if they want to work? I agree completely with the offshore laborers. Chinamen and Mexicans aren't real people. They're subhuman. They shouldn't have running water or electricity or more food than they need to survive. They don't need jobs. [WT69, I realize you don't think this way. But that's the effect your policy would have if implemented by developed countries. ]