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Actually lotsafun. You are mistaken. The prices on that site are indeed quoted in US Dollars. Trust me. I met with one of the owners for lunch while I was in B.A. BUT, what they are asking for and what you negotiate are two different things. I personally wouldn't pay $100 US for a short time visit but who knows..maybe some of these beauties are worth it. I actually ended up paying a few girls a ton of money for all nighters.
ibiza007, your post is too long for me to try to answer now but I think most of those questions are indeed answered throughout the April/May postings.
(1) IMHO you are wrong when you post, "It appears that almost any girl is available for 100 - 150 P, if you are a little savy how you make the connection. And some really beutiful girls for 80 p as well." You probably can get some very pretty girls for 100-150 pesos BUT NOT "almost any girl". The true superstars you'll be very lucky to pay less than 200 pesos for a short time session. This is all IMHO (in my humble opinion) but let's keep things in perspective too. 200 pesos is still only about $55 US. I'm not saying that you won't be able to find any super hotties willing to go for less but you shouldn't give people the idea that all these Playboy type girls are willing to spread their legs for a few pesos. (Most of the super hotties on Area-Vip were happy with 200 - 250 pesos for a short time visit and this was back in May when the exchange rate was 3.15 - 3.20). I don't know about Greek as I'm not into it. I never inquired about this service although 2 asked if I was interested but i passed.
(2) NO, these girls that are on the various websites do not work in the clubs too. There may be a few exceptions but all the ones I asked looked at me like I was crazy. And the girls in the clubs for the most part think you are nuts if you tell them you see girls from the internet. A few tried telling me horror stories about internet girls but I just smiled and told them I was having good luck. The internet girls like the freedom of working when they want. The club girls are kind of slaves to their jobs. Once they show up they have to work. It's interesting because sometimes a girl might ask you to buy her fee out so she can go home. These girls for the most part sleep during the day and work at night.
(3) As far as getting numbers in the clubs. There probably isn't any true protocol to this but..... generally if you're sitting at a table or "booth" and a girl comes and sits with you then you might fell like a slug not at least buying a drink and chatting with her before getting her number. Personally i never walked into a club thinking I'd go home alone so I always bought drinks. Even if you don't select that particular girl you can use the purchased drinks towards your "exit" fee for either short term or all night. If you know you're not gonna see a girl and only want to get her number...just stand at the bar with your drink or if you're in Black's...just stand near the bar without sitting down. Tons of girls are walking around. If you see a hottie, get her attention and tell her something like you've been working all day and you're really tired. That you'd love to spend some time with her but you need some rest tonight. Ask her if there is a possibility of her coming to your hotel tomorrow (later tonight, etc.). You can almost bet most will give you her #.
If your spanish is weak just ask your waitress to help you. Personally I didn't get numbers on "napkins". I have this pretty cool wallet from Mont Blanc. It has a little notepad of paper attached to it. It also has a little slot for a little pencil (the kind you use at the putt putt golf places). I'd simply BS with the girl a little and hand her the pencil and note pad and she'd write her #'s on it. Worked like a charm. Or, alternatively, you can write your hotel and room # on it and they can call you. I tried to be like a boy scout and was prepared. If you're interested, there is a Mont Blanc store in Recoleta. You don't have to spend $150 on the wallet. They sell the notepad refill pads for about $2. It's classy looking and better than going around collecting numbers on napkins. I bought a 5 pack box of refills for around $10 US.
Go back and read posts from Otto, Umgman, Yabba, Drgn, Jackson, L.A. Larry and others. Most of these guys are pretty on target about being realist with what the superstars will go for. Nothing for nothing but as I always say..take these posts with a grain of salt. Just because some stranger on the board posts that he paid 100 pesos for a "10"...take it from me...his "10" and your "10 " are two different things.
Do NOT go down expecting to pay much less than 200 pesos for a short time visit with a total hottie. Otherwise you'll spend way more than your budget. I really believe in being realistic when posting to these boards. B.A. is NO Rio or Sao Paulo. Those that love Brazil might hate B.A.
P.S. In my opinion, very few girls look as good in person as their pictures on the site. I've mentioned this time and time again but i'll mention it again. Case in point, I saw Wanda from Area-vip (Dion from Platynum). Although she was the same person on the site, when she arrived she had very little make up on. Her hair looked NOTHING like the website. Her body WAS very good but her face didn't look as good. The session was good though.
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ibiza007:
I would distrust sex59.com.ar. That' sright: Too good to be true.
I went once to see one girl who looked incredibly good at the website and found a monkey with skirt telling me " my pictures in the site are somewhat 'produced'" HAHAHA. Hasta la vista , baby!
Better stick to Platynum, area-vip and the like. These are pretty accurate, from my experience.
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Saint- Thanks for the very informative reply on my questions. It was interesting to hear your comments about the clubs vs escorts.
I agree 200p is a fantastic price anyway, Would the final exit price be more around 250-300p with the drinks? What is the policy anyway, 1 drink for you and two for the girl? 20p x 3drinks-P60 or more? for short time.
I was refering to the web sites for the 100-150p range as this is what I have discovered so far. Am I off the mark for Escorts-Argentina and Platynum being in the 150p range or is 200+ more realistic for the stars?
And it really depends on the site, as you noted , Escorts Argentina is quoted as $100 usd, but I saw several of the same ones on Rubio 59 , with the upper range of prices at 41 ( 150p )$usd. I appreciate the tip on the superstars at 200 +.
As for the napkin, I should have rephrased that a little. I like the sugestion of the small pad.
I have a compaq PDA that you can write on. I use this to store tons of info on new cities, I can save web pages, word files etc. in the thing and then I have a complete file with me. I have about 50 web pages stored already. I probably would not carry this around at night, a little big - bulky. But it is great for the hotel to refresh your memory and keep a few ideas in mind for the daytime.
I have pretty much the same thoughts on pictures of escort, usually less impresive in real life. Still very nice but not the dream in the photo.
Thanks for the information.
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ibiza007,
Could you post the web address for Rubio 59 please?
Thanks
Fatty
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Here are my humble answers to some random questions I saw, in no particular order---
1) Greta--my God yes, call her and pray that she is available. Yes, she looks like those pix you saw on her website. You will like her three b's and a j kind of service. I think I paid 150 p, which is unreal. I did a review of her some time back as Zamantha. How quickly we fade to obscurity.
2)At least for all the girls (10 or so) I talked to on Platynum, roughly 80-180 p. I did pay 300 p for an Escorts Arg girl. I'd stick with Platynum.
3) You can exchange travellers checks for US dollars at the cambio for a very minimal fee.
4) The Platynum girls list their hours of operation. If it says full time, call em whenever.
5) Keep everything in perspective, boys. Sure, if you refuse to pay that extra 18 dollars you might feel justified, but someone else will get to molest your lust object while you screw a pooch for cheap. Fun comes first.
6)yes, tack on 60-70 p for exit fees on top of girls asking price
7) do no overlook Anastacia on Platynum.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by umgman
1) Greta--my God yes, call her and pray that she is available. Yes, she looks like those pix you saw on her website.
I can't find a Greta on Playnum? Does she have another name?
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I want to thank you guys for all the great information about punting in Buenos Aires. I’ve done 10 days of Thai nightlife, and I long to go back. But based on what I’ve learned lurking here for the last week, Argentina has moved to the top of my list.
The Thai girls are beautiful, sweet and plentiful, but the BA girls on the Web sites are stunners. BA prices for short time are slightly higher – $55 US vs. $35 US in Bangkok – but the price difference is insignificant, and the quality of the BA women looks to be so much higher. A lot of the women on the BA Internet sites look like Playboy babes and super models.
Personally, I prefer long time. I’ve been surfing the Escorts Argentina site (http://www.escorts-argentina.com/), for example, and reading prices like “The whole day going out with you and sleeping with you – $300.” Many of these same girls are also pictured (usually with different names) on the Platypus and Area VIP sites. If that price is in dollars, it’s a bargain by U.S. standards, but if it’s in pesos, it’s incredible.
Anyone know if it’s dollars or pesos?
Thanks.
Carabu
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Fat Bastard - My apologies, I mispelled the name it is Rubro59.com.ar
You do have to register. I tried the secret method in the earlier post but could not get it to work, so I registered and it was very easy and painless.
It is a good site with what appears to be offers that make your head spin.
Any of the experts have first had knowledge about Rubro59?
Umgman - Great news about Greta, I have visions of here in my head every time I stand over a 6 foot put. I just think to myself, If I drain this putt, she is the prize. Little kids all over the world dream of making that put to win the US Open or the Masters. Not me!I think Greta, Lorena ( Mel ).....
Thanks Ibiza007
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Carabu,
Many of the girls on the web site will go below 55 dollars US. I had some very attractive women for 150 pesos. For many of them their asking price is higher than what they will settle for. Currently 150 pesos roughly converts to low 40's US.
Please remember I am talking more or less about the average girl (short term) you see on these websites. If you want top of the line it will cost you more but not that much more. If they won't budge from their higher price - move on. One thing BA is not short of is attractive if not stunning woman.
As far as the long term stuff that is all negociation between you and them. I had one girl from Black's who wanted 300 US dollars. For BA that is way too much but I have to admit she was about as wild in bed as they get. The absolute highest I would go for a long term as you describe it would be 150 US dollars. For that kind of money she had better be Playboy quality. Finally, if she won't come down there are plenty more to pick from.
One last thing. Learn some Spanish. It will help you immensely down there and in the US as well because whether we like it or not in the US Spanish is rapidly (in many areas) becoming a second language.
Umgman,
I very much remember your posts . The helped me quite a bit. Thanks.
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Yet another trip report. But first, Greta´s site is www.greta-model.com. No .ar.
Here we go. I started last night at about 11. I had planned on taking last night off. I was just going to browse. I´m a little worn out. I went to check out Solid Gold. I´ve been there before, but I always found the place lacking. I was the only guy there. It was funny because the doorman held me at the door. I saw that the girls were all sitting on the couches. He said ¨chicas¨ to stir them all up and get them dancing. I don´t know what it is about this place, I feel like I´m at a bar in TJ. I gulped down my beer, refused the 2nd and left. As I was leaving there was one girl who came in that was about an 8. All the others are sub 6 for me. Anyways, 15 pesos entrance with 2 drinks.
I hoped next door to PlayWoman. It was about 11:45. I greeted Raoul the doorman and had a seat at the bar. All the girls weren´t there yet, but there were about 4 new ones. One of them had a incredibly slender and tall body. She could easily be a runway model. I sat there for about an hour waiting for a particular girl. I talked to her long enough to set up something for today outside of the club. I then left. It costs 20 pesos for 1 drink.
I meandered over to give Shampoo another try. It was about 12:30. I have to say in terms of classiness, this place beats Blacks hands down. They even have bathroom attendants. I´m not so much a fan of that though. It´s probably the most normal like hobby club I´ve been too. Beware though. Some of the girls here aren´t working. They´re just hanging out. One heard me speak english and decided to practice with me. She told me she wasn´t working and was just hanging out here with her friends. She saved me a lot of embarrassment, as her friend were the hottest women there. The number and quality of the girls were just about the same as it was when I was there the other night. Well except for one. More on that later. First, the shows with the dancers. Playwoman and Blacks also have shows, but the are positively amateurish compared to Shampoo. It´s a solidly professional show. One of the dancers... OH MY GOD!!!!! Let me say it again OH MY GOD!!!!!. She has to be the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my life. Either personally, in movies or in magazines. She also dances very well. Somehow she resonants to the harmonic of my dick. If only she worked. I´d gladly pay $300 for an half an hour. She alone is worth the price of admission. Well anyways, I meet this 21 year old brunnette there last night. As I said, I was going to take the night off. She convinced me otherwise. She says she was there the other night as well, but I must have missed here. She used to work in Mar De Plata. She´s only been in BA for a month. I´d tell you here name, but after 5 ¨comos¨ I still didn´t get it. Well anyways I asked how much it would be. She said $40 or 150 pesos. No ridiculous prices here like Blacks. I didn´t even bother haggling. You have to buy two drinks for the ladies. But there are only 20 pesos unlike the other clubs where 2 drinks can easily add up to 100 pesos. I still don´t get the Blacks 50 pesos drinks. I we soon left for the hotel. I had to wait for the dancer to finish dancing. My girl understood. She saw me looking at her slack mouthed. The other classy thing about this club is that no one hassles you for tips like all the other clubs. I went to give the doorman some cash after he got us a taxi. He just said ¨No Senor¨, smiled and said good night. A class act. I did put money in the bathroom attendants tip dish though. 20 pesos to get in with 1 drink. 2 exit drinks at 20 pesos each. 60 pesos bar fee, cheap compared to the 100-115 at PlayWoman or Blacks.
I can´t say enough of about the performance of my lady. She was great. She had the smoothest tannest skin I have ever seen. She complained about her tan lines, but I couldn´t see any. Once she got started, she just motored on. No complaints about being tired and no asking me to finish. A true athelete. I thought she would only stay for an hour since here asking price was just so little, but she stayed until about 4 then went home. Since ALL the other girls ask for cab fare, I automatically offerred it to her even without her asking. She politely declined. Classy. I hate the fact that the other girls try to bum 2 pesos out of you after you just gave them $100.
Sorry about the long post. Let me know if you want me to cut down on the details. I have Camil from Platynum booked tonight as well as the PlayWoman girl 3 hours later. I´m thinking I´m a superman or something. Pray for me.
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>Sorry about the long post. Let me know if you want me to cut down on the details. I have Camil from Platynum booked tonight as well as the PlayWoman girl 3 hours later. I´m thinking I´m a superman or something. Pray for me. [/i][/QUOTE]
Your posts are great. In a league with Uncle Otto, and that's saying a great deal. Keep it up. The more details about venues, particular girls and prices the better. Don't care too much about the details about what you did in the sack, but that's me, since I'm now suffering in NYC with the neurotic American women and don't really want to know how good it can get:-)
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I just finished the first game in a double header. No runs scored.
I saw Camil from Platynum. She´s pretty enough and as you can tell from the website, she has a great body. All in all though, I wouldn´t have picked her in a club.
She was in a bad mood. She didn´t say a word all the way up to the room. Most girls fall into your arms when the elevator door closes. I offerred her a cigarette and a drink and we attempted to chat for a bit. The ad says she speaks english, she speaks as much english as I do swahili. She starts to undress and tells me to do the same. Turn off number one, most girls will hug you for a while and then undress you while you undress them. She starts in, her technique is not the best. After about 5 minutes she says ¨terminar¨ which I take to mean ¨finish now¨. Turn off number 2. We keep going and she gets a call. She takes the time to answer it. Turn off number 3. After another 15 minutes or so with a ¨when are you going to finish¨ look on her face, I tell her ¨no terminar¨. I´m out of the mood. I pay her and she leaves. Not even a goodbye hug. She ask for 200 pesos for session and 20 pesos for cab fare. Where is she going, La Plata?
I probably won´t do another call in again. I find that the vibe checking you can do in the club and the playful banter helps a lot to get me going. It was just too clinical. It´s also tough to set something up over the phone if you don´t speak spanish. One of the guys at the front desk helped me out.
I´ve let the team down. I´ll try to do better in the 2nd game.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bapunter
[i]I just finished the first game in a double header. No runs scored.
I saw Camil from Platynum. She´s pretty enough and as you can tell from the website, she has a great body. All in all though, I wouldn´t have picked her in a club.
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The one from the club last - the girl with no name from MDP - makes more sense. I wouldn't get a girl from the internet unless she was highly recommended on WSG. It seems too much like a domino delivery except you can be sure what the topping will be.
As for Greta....checked out her site and she seems too hard core for me...I give her an 8 at best....what I am looking for is the girl next door that bangs like there is no tomorrow or a swimsuit model.
Good luck at your next time up to bat. Hit it out of the park for us poor chumps up North.
PS
Any possibility you can wrangle a session with the "OH MY GOD" dancer from last night? She can't be a virgin at a place like that. Give it the all American try
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too many details (times, costs, opinions, etc - not sex details), are you kidding, that's why we're here reading!
and please do tell about camil (details - time, cost, her likes, performance) as she's made my short list for my trip in a couple of weeks.
BUT PLEASE, CAN SOMEONE HELP ANSWER THIS:
i do hope to schedule girls from area-vip or platynum. there's been a few inconsistancies recently in what's here, and someone referenced say top level vs. average, etc... can an expert tell me the cost range in AR$ for these two sites, and does the range just vary by girl and her opinion of hot, or does executive or vip level mean something in this regard?
last, can we discuss some specific girls?! if you know them, please tell about these details - cost, time, performance, and what's her face look like if the pix doesn't show?
area-vip:
micaela
agata - she's barbarella and janet on platynum
anabel (oh, what's her face look like?!)
abril (how's her face)
platynum:
denis!
dulce
estefany
emiliana
esmeralda (please, anyone seen this face?)
dana (again, no face)
dolores (no face)
thanks for the help!!
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bapunter .....I love your posts............the detail is what gives it character. Keep up the excellent work.
I had Camil from Platynum on my list of girls to meet.....after your post I deleted her. It's adios Camil.
This argentina site is truly the coolest thing happening on the web.....that I'm aware of....................a big" thank you" to all of you regular posters, Well done.
Also, I really like Leo's idea about posting specfics on specfic girls.
In fact....it would be really cool to ad another topic to the Argentina site just for the purpose of chica evaluations. What do you hombres think?
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>Also, I really like Leo's idea about posting specfics on specfic girls.
In fact....it would be really cool to ad another topic to the Argentina site just for the purpose of chica evaluations. What do you hombres think? [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree totally. The Argentine forum should be in part like the zagats of sex, so that the really great providers reap the rewards of their profession and the "terminar" types join the ranks of the underemployed.
Isn't that what the web is all about....getting the word out on what's hot, what's not? Improving the level of the hobby.
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great idea. how do we add a new "thread" like "Argentina Girl Review" parallel to BA Hotels, Otto's visit, etc?
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>>>>>great idea. how do we add a new "thread" like "Argentina Girl Review" parallel to BA Hotels, Otto's visit, etc?>>>>
I think you need to get word to Jackson....he's the main man.
Bapunter....great posts...funny as hell. I'm praying for you brother.
Fatty
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ferolga777
[i]continuing the review
from jul/30:
Salome-- The place is packed with locals, some of which have a grope-for-free attitude. Took out a lovely lady for 100 pesos, gave her a genorous tip. Looks 7. Attitude 8. Not a super hot brasilera. She was a sweet argentina. [/i][/QUOTE]
anyone have any follow up comment to this? anyone know the location (street names)?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fat Bastard
[i]>>>>>great idea. how do we add a new "thread" like "Argentina Girl Review" parallel to BA Hotels, Otto's visit, etc?>>>>
>>I think you need to get word to Jackson....he's the main man.
I second the idea and hope Jackson gives it some serious consideration.
I would like to see a section for clubs/brothels and for girls reviews in general.
And "maybe" girls should be broken down to internet and non-internet girls.
I know this seems like lots of sub-forums for Argentina but it will help in getting the right information on the right subject.
I know the BA hotel forum is really great on its own rather than mixed in with BA or Argentina General.
just my two pesos on the subject.
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Glad you're having fun BAPunter. That's what it's all about down there. Don't lose hope on the call to order girls. I think YMMV (you're mileage may vary) always comes into play. I think Umgman also saw Camil and had good things to say about her. I saw more club girls but the ones I saw from Area-vip and Platynum were really GFE with me. Not a bad session my entire trip.
I think you're post and Umgman's post is a good example of how two guys can see the same girl and have two different experiences. I also saw the same girl as one of my friends. He had a good session too but she was in a hurry to leave with him. If you catch a good girl on a bad day the session quality can be affected. This is where I think speaking some spanish helps. Also, if you guys have a bad session with a girl and she asks for a tip (propina) or taxi fare..say NO. I'm all for being generous if the girls are good but can't understand the guys that tip girls after a lousy session.
As BAPunter jokingly pointed out...taxi fare is very cheap here. It didn't cost more than 5-7 pesos to go clear across town. I always gave $2 or $3 US for taxi fare but the girls were always good GFE experiences.
That's the other great thing if you're in town several days and have time. You can get to know girls in the clubs. See their faces, their bodies, what their attitude is like, see the smile on their faces. Things like that are priceless and you'll never be able to tell from the internet. But still....those internet girls come in handy in a town like B.A. where there is not significant daytime action.
I understand why Jackson doesn't update the photo section regularly. Truth be told I wouldn't post pictures to a public site most likely. I've met a ton of you guys from this board. Those that have been to B.A. and also have photos might want to get on my email list and maybe we all can exchange photos. I have a few rolls of film with photos. Email me: saintofba@hotmail.com. Those that haven't been to BA yet..please don't email asking for pictures...I get enough of those emails. Thanks for understanding.
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bapunter,
What is the address of Shampoo??? Thanks!
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Hey Boys--
A trusted Business associate of mine in Buenos Aires sent me an interesting email about his extraordinary good fortune using newspaper ads right now in BA to find chicas. (And this is from a guy who like me had "hit or miss" luck at best from newspaper ads).
He claims that he has seen on several occasions young "Lolitas" for 40-60 pesos for an hour that in some cases include anal. He pointed out that this was during the daytime--and they came to his Palermo apartment--promptly within an hour of him calling.
He is an American and I can vouch that he is not a Bullshitter. His theory is that some girls (for whatever reason) are not as sophisticated as other girls and they begin their trade very naively---some foolishly start of working at low cost brothels/outcall agencies that advertise in the newspaper. Perhaps--these girls can't work at nights because they still live with their parents. Perhaps they have a cousin/friend that works at the agency who encouraged them to join. Whatever the reason--there seems to be a surplus of chicas that have yet to understand the value of their ass--yet.
Now I have been out to Blacks with this guy and I know his taste. He swears that these recent "Lolitas" are comparable to some of the Blacks girls. ONLY YOUNGER and less professional minded. He is as shocked about it as me. The girls were aroung 21 years old he said.
In case you dont know---40 pesos is under $12 US Dollars. THESE ARE CAMBODIAN PRICES.
So--to anyone going down there for an extended period--you may want to gamble on the newspaper ads once in a while---WHAT THE HELL--RIGHT??? (If you only have 5 days in BA, dont bother its not worth it--stick to the bars for their certainty).
WARNING--if you do decide to roll the dice on a newspaper ad--
be smart about it. Circle all the ads that calim that they have young beautiful girls "Lolitas". Call them and be demonstrative that you refuse to see a girl over 22. And if you dont like the girl--if she isn't "muy bonita" that you are going to send her packing.
YOU MIGHT END UP PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.
But be warned--I still think that the newspaper ads still hit or miss.
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Leo
I never wrote down the streets where Salome is. I asked the taxi drivers near the other boliches if they knew where Salome was cause I wanted to go there.
I was in Shampoo recently. I talked to a pretty girl and asked her what she charged for a salida. She said to me $250 pesos for an hour and a half. Remembering what I read here, I told her that was more than I could afford and offered her $200 pesos for two hours. She told me that she was one of the chicas that charged the least and didn't budge. She said that the club only gave them one hour and a half. I would have paid the $250 but I want two hours for that amount. I must smell like money. What are you doing, BAPunter, to get them a little more reasonable?
On the following day I went to 2254 French street, tel 4825-9168/9370. $200 pesos for some great sex. She was tall, thin and gorgeous and an expert deliverer of sensual pleasures. Sorry, I didn't get her name. As the other post says, you gotta call first.
This site rocks.
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First, let me answer the questions I remember.
The address of Shampoo is 362 Pres. Quintara. It´s about a block further towards downtown than Blacks.
Saint, I did read Umgmans report about Camil. I think she was just in a bad mood when I saw her. She just looked really pissed off. Her fee was 200 pesos and she was exactly on time. Since she doesn´t show her face in her pictures, here´s a little description. She´s tan and has a lot of freckles. She has that classic Latina hottie thing going on. She wasn´t as open to suggestions for things to do as most of the other girls I´ve seen.
I was at Sodama last time I was here. I wasn´t very impressed. I almost went there last night, but decided against. I might go there tonight just to check things out.
I´d loved to see if I could set something up with the dancer in Shampoo, but I just don´t see an opportunity. She dances then goes to a back room. I might be able to intercept her when she comes out to go to the bathroom, but that doesn´t seem right. She doesn´t hang out in the main room.
Here´s my report on last night.
Contrary to what you might think, the weekends are dead in the clubs. While the rest of BA is party central on Friday and Saturday, the clubs are empty. I asked the girls about this and they said that both the patrons and the girls see their families on the weekends. So plan on being here during a weekday.
I had a specific goal last night. The last time I was here, I had a incredible session with a woman named Fabiona. She might not be to everyone´s liking, she´s 31. She looks great though. What I find so attractive is she´s not harden at all. She blushes and giggles sometimes when I ask her if she´s willing to do this or that. The last time I met up with her was in Affaire. So I went there at around 11:30. I was the only guy there. Inflation has hit. A few months ago, it only cost 10 pesos to get in. Last night it cost 30. You get 3 drinks with that. I don´t frequent Affaire because there aren´t very good pickins there. Since Fabiona wasn´t there I gulped down 2 drinks and left.
Next I went to PlayWoman, it was about 12:15 when I got there. It was much more lively then it was Saturday night. There were actually quite a few girls I have never seen before. But alas none to my liking.
I decided to walk over to Shampoo. There was a girl there Saturday night. Long blond hair, quite lovely. I don´t know if she was working though. She had her purse and coat with her. Most girls check that stuff away. I just wanted to investigate.
Anyways, on my way there I decided to duck into NewPort. I´ve never been in there before since the women don´t look so great looking in from the window. But, why not I thought. There´s no entrance fee. I walk in, have a quick look around and decide to leave. On my way out, I see a girl staring at me. I do a double take. It´s Fabiona. YES!!! We get reacquainted and quickly decide to head back to my hotel. I bought drinks while we talked, which ended up being 18 pesos. Fabiona, what can I say. I ¨love¨her. She takes her time warming you up. She also is the only girl that takes a shower before the session. I appreciate that considering what they´ve been doing all night. She loves to kiss. We did that for about 20 minutes. She also motors on, no breaks to rest etc. I gave her 200 pesos for the session. I didn´t negoitiate. She also didn´t ask for cab fare so I gave her 10 dollars for that and as a little tip. I always tip for good performance. She was with me for about 2 hours.
What amazes me is that I´ve seen 2 girls that I saw the last time I was here. Fabiona, like the other one, remembered me. She remebered my name and where I was from and what I liked to do. I had only seen her once before a few months back. Amazing.
Some miscellaneous comments.
Do try to get out of Recoleta. It´s easy to get stuck within the few blocks here since everything you need is here. I went down to Puerto Maderno Saturday night for dinner. It´s a very modern part of town. It´s where a lot of the international conglomerates are located. You can get a great meal for not much more than in Recoleta without all the tourists.
I guess Etoile provides free rides to and from the airport. I´ve always turn them down when they ask if I need a car since I thought you had to pay for it. But this morning I got a call from some guy asking to set up a time for my car to the airport when I leave. I thought it was just some hustler so I tried brushing him off. He said that Maria, the reservation lady, asked him to call and that it was free. It´ll save you about 40 pesos each way from and to the airport if you are staying at Etoile.
Don´t worry about how good or bad the breakfast is at any of these hotels. You won´t be up in time for them anyways if you are with a lady until the wee hours of the morning.
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I have question. Does the French st place have showers? My flight is at night and I might want some day time action to pass the time. Since I will be without a room, I´d like to shower up before hopping on the plane.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ferolga777
[i]Leo
I was in Shampoo recently. I talked to a pretty girl and asked her what she charged for a salida. She said to me $250 pesos for an hour and a half. Remembering what I read here, I told her that was more than I could afford and offered her $200 pesos for two hours. She told me that she was one of the chicas that charged the least and didn't budge. She said that the club only gave them one hour and a half. I would have paid the $250 but I want two hours for that amount. I must smell like money. What are you doing, BAPunter, to get them a little more reasonable?
On the following day I went to 2254 French street, tel 4825-9168/9370. $200 pesos for some great sex. She was tall, thin and gorgeous and an expert deliverer of sensual pleasures. Sorry, I didn't get her name. As the other post says, you gotta call first.
This site rocks. [/i][/QUOTE]
hmmm, sound like very different stories on shampoo. bapunter wrote that his impression was prices well lower (8/10/02). hopefully we get a few more data points on shampoo in the next few days? (i leave for recife on my way to b.a. on friday).
more details(!) please on 2254 (another place with posts listing widely varried results):
what day of the week was it?
what time was it?
since i'm only in for 3 days, these details is very nice to see.
last, yes, it does rock!
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We do need more data points on Shampoo. Since I´ve only seen one girl there, it may have been a fluke.
I always thought the girls set the time and the prices. The clubs make money off of the exit drinks. I´ve never heard of a club putting a time limit on a session.
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Well I heard the time limit from a girl from Black, one from Playwoman and one from Shampoo. But the time limit of the other two was two hours. Shampoo chica's was one and a half hours. I want to know if I was lied to 'cause I smell like money. Or worse.
The French street place has showers. I took one before and after, the chicas like clean hombres. BAPunter, tell them what you want over the phone that way I guess they'll book one that appeals to you. The girl that took care of me was very pretty. Didn't get her name. I went in the afternoon. I called one hour ahead. I was taken to a nice and well appointed room.
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if i read the map correctly, 2254 french st is right around the corner from artsuites - can anyone confirm this?
is the place set up so if you're not happy with the looks of the girl they've selected for you when you call ahead that you have an opportunity to select a different girl, or walk out without service?
thanks.
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ferolga777, thanks for the shower info at French st. Maybe it´s the time of night that affects whether the timelimit kicks in or not. I´ve noticed that if you leave the club around midnight or so, they do kind of hurry to get back to the club. I always thought that was because they just wanted to get another client. When we leave at around 2 in the morning, they don´t seem to be in a rush at all since the club will be closed by 4. I´ve never had a girl say she had to be back at a certain time. Most of them offer all nighters.
Last night I started around 12:15 by going to Shampoo. The hot dancer wasn´t working which is my main reason for going there. Once again, I wished the waitresses worked. There were about the same, 6 or so, girls working when I first showed up. The girl I had a great session with before hopped out of a cab and came in right behind me. I guess they have to pay admission as well. She got two drink tickets instead of one though. She remembered me and we talked for a while. She said to call her over if I wanted a repeat. The girls tend to duck into the restroom with drinks in hand for about 10 minutes at a time. There must be a lounge in there. I stayed for about an hour. During that time the place filled up with girls. The most I´ve ever seen there. Mostly 5-7s with about two 8s. The place is fairly dark like most of the clubs. If you sit at a table, there is this shaft of light that comes down so you can get a good look when you talk to them. Make sure you get a good look. Most of them look great from about 4 feet away in the dark, but in the light .... I was going to take the night off and I was just browsing so I left to go to PlayWoman.
I got there about 1:30. About the same as usual. Let me say that the PlayWoman girls have the niciest attitude. I regularly get chatted up by a girl. She asks if I want her. I say no and she asks if there is anyone else she can get for me. Anyways this girl comes over and sits down with me. I´ve talked to her before but I´ve never had a session. I buy her a drink with just the intention to talk. She starts to warm me up in all the right places. Next thing I know, we´re headed back to my hotel. I´m weak. Lola has a really pretty face and a good body. She isn´t all tarted up like most of the others. She´s just dressed in jeans and a t shirt like she´s going shopping or something. She definitely looks like the girl next door. She was great. She likes to watch though. She positioned me next to the full length mirror in the room. We never made it to the bed. At first, she asked for an unheard of $100 at PlayWoman. I balked at this and talked her down to $60. Unlike other girls, she didn´t seem disappointed at all. She was very playful through the negoitiations. It didn´t affect her performance. If she had been anymore enthusiastic, she would have killed me. I gave her a $10 tip. She´s in my BA top 3.
I keep forgetting to say this. When I was leaving for a session from Blacks the other night. I overheard two Argentinos say ¨todos los americanos¨. It´s funny yet sad. There are a lot of us at Blacks. I hope we aren´t messing it up for the locals.
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Great info BAPunter.
One way to get around the time restriction issue is to pay the all night drink fee instead of the short-time drink fee. I almost always did this. Before you do this, negotiate with the girl and tell her that you'll buy her out of the club for the entire night. I think most of the girls will give you more time this way. This way, if they want to go back they can but if they don't want to they are not obligated to going back.
Before doing this make sure you ask the girl for more time if you do this. While I was at Playwoman I always paid the 5 drink fee instead of the 2 drink fee so the girl would not have an excuse to say she had to go back. None of the girls I picked were in a hurry to leave. In fact, with the girls I didn't do an all nighter with...I had to tell them they could leave. This might solve your problem. Some girls you'll feel like holding all night in your arms. Others you will be ready to toss out the door after a few hours only in anticipation of the next girl. Good luck.
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>I keep forgetting to say this. When I was leaving for a session from Blacks >the other night. I overheard two Argentinos say ¨todos los americanos¨. >It´s funny yet sad. There are a lot of us at Blacks. I hope we aren´t >messing it up for the locals. [/i][/QUOTE]
Exactly. By paying the "American" rates you are just making it harder for our brothers from Argentina to survive in difficult economic circumstances and be able to hobby.
Always try to keep the prices in accord with the local rates while being a gentleman and tipping generously for good service rendered.
Question????
Is there a very strict policy in the major clubs - Blacks, Playwoman & Shampu regarding the non pro employees and working after hours ie waitresses and dancers. Could one ask a waiter to have a particular dancer join you for a drink between performances? Has anyone had any luck with the "help"....
And also are there really unescorted non-pro's in the clubs? This is hard to believe?
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Thanks for the info Saint. Now, if the chicas were so clear about it...
The French Street house. You can accept who opens the door or ask to see others. You might have to come back later. The minimum is one hour. It takes me one hour to get it up.
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Concerning the French street place and the question about choosing another girl....Merium (the madame) is very accommodating. When I went there, I just waited in a nice room while drinking a beer they gave me. The girls walked in one at a time and introduced themselves. Then Merium walks back in and asks your decision. She only requests that we call ahead for a reservation so that we don't run into other men there....very discrete.
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First of all, much thanks to Jackson. I know it's a hard and thankless job and most don't realize how valuable this site is. I'm sure many have complained even though this is a free site so I have to say my hats off to you Jackson. I also want to point out that I am only a regular guy that posts to this board. Some have emailed me asking if I own or maintain this board. I do NOT. I've never met Jackson, only emailed him a handful of times, he has never asked me to post, I have no agenda other than to help all of you discover a beautiful city with beautiful girls.
All that feel like complaining keep in mind that most sites are pay sites to access valuable information like this. Many of us take a LOT of time to post so please don't complain.
I just returned from BA again last week. I am a member of other boards. I posted to them. To save me time I've cut and pasted what I posted by dates I was there. Enjoy!
Saint
Day 1:
I arrived this morning and I´m already exhausted. I only slept about 3 hours on the plane but that didn´t stop me. This guy I know on another message board told me about a great girl, Sandy (girl number 9 on escorts-argentina). I´m glad i listened to him. The day before I arrived I called her and actually had a 20 minute conversation with her..she was really funny. The comical part was that she gave me her home phone number to call and halfway through her cellphone battery went dead. I tried calling back several times to no avail. Then I called my amiga in Buenos Aires and had her call the girl back a few minutes later. Voila….she gets the girls home phone number for me. (Sandy did wonder who in the heck the girl was). LOL.
I was set to get in at 9:30 AM so I scheduled an 11:30 appointment with her. Call me crazy or just horny…She promised to show up. I had no reason to doubt her. I got in this morning. By the time I got out of the shower it was 11:15 AM and she was already at my hotel!! Talk about punctual.
I was really happy she was hot and better than pictures. Needless to say I was a happy camper when she walked into my door. She is originally from Peru. Says she is 24 years old. She had great natural breasts and a great body. I took tons of pictures....(albeit clothed). I´ll post when i return. She was super GFE with me. We talked and laughed a lot together. She stayed 2 hours for a negotiated rate of 200 pesos but i ended up giving her more. I didn´t have pesos and paid in dollars and she seemed to have trouble converting.....at first she wanted $80 or $90 US...when i exchanged the rate was 3.58...she still had trouble until i got out my calcultor for her to figure herself. Pay in pesos! It´s much easier. She told me she also works at Cutty Sark if you´re interested.
The weather today is cold. Earlier in the week it was very warm. I talk to a few chicas I met last trip every day and they were telling me one day they had to turn on their air-conditioning the week before I came. It´s in the upper 40´s today. I just changed $700 US at the casa de cambio near the Etoile hotel. (Corner of Quintana and Junin). The rate was 3.58. I was supposed to hook up with UWPhoto (one of my other buddies) but he is with Latasian (another dude that was down there that weekend) i think. He was supposed to also have a 11:30 session but not sure if she showed up or not. The fact that he wasn’t in him room makes me think no.
It´s about 3:15 PM and I think I´m gonna go call another internet girl. God i love this city. I also really like Art Suites.
After my session with Sandy, this girl i met at Playwoman last trip and talk with frequently called my room. I was very shocked since i never told her i was staying here for sure. I told her I was staying in an apartment-hotel in Recoleta so she must have called them all. She offered to come over for free but i passed. She is a little on the psycho side at times. (UWPhoto knows her too...she is potential stalker material so i won´t even take her offered freebie).
I’m gonna go eat then get another session then get ready for tonight. Probably will go out with UWPhoto and Latasian and hit the clubs.
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Today´s update. True to my word yesterday after my post, I called Serena from Area-Vip´s site. That girl could very well have the best body of any girl I’ve seen. Playboy hard body type. She claims to work out every day and I believe her. Her face was a bit disappointing but i didn’t care too much. She asked for 200 pesos for 2 hours and i was happy to give it to her plus an unasked for generous tip. She was GFE with me. We talked for a long time and she felt really comfortable with me i think. She gave me her real name, address and phone numbers and also her email address if i wanted to stay in contact with her. She plans on quitting after September 7th so if you boys want to see her..gotta do it before then. She just bought a store so you’re out of luck. I´m actually glad because she is a sweet girl.
I finally hooked up with UWPhoto after that in the lobby of my hotel. He was with Leo (a guy from the WSG board that emailed me earlier and told me he was also in BA) and some of Leo’s friends. We talked for a while and UWPhoto and I met Latasian for dinner at 9 PM. We had some great steaks on Junin Street. Cost of appetizers, drinks, and steaks was 90 pesos with a decent tip. It was funny because during dinner Latasian wanted me to set up a few appointments. I stuck gold as I was able to set something up with his top 3 picks...should be an interesting next couple of days. I called them on the cell phone that he had provided by Etoile hotel.
I was surprised to hear that UWPhoto and Latasian didn’t hook up with anyone during the day. I had already had 2 and was going on number 3.
One thing that was kind of difficult for me was that earlier in the day I passed by one of the restaurants where this girl that hands out those flyers works. We started a friendship since my last trip but she confided a few weeks ago she had feelings for me. Well, long story short...(UWPhoto can tell you how i had to lie through my teeth on the phone with her during dinner). She wanted to do something Friday night and i told her I had to work with UW. She asked if she could ¨help¨. LOL. Not likely. Anyway, I felt bad when she started crying. I ended up calling back and setting up breakfast with her this morning. I just had a 2 hour breakfast with her before her work. She is really sweet and even pretty but not gorgeous.
Anyway back to last night. We hit Playwoman first and I’m sorry to report it sucked. True it was early but last time we went there were always decent girls at 11 PM. Lisa, Paola, Marisol, et.al were no where to be found. We had one drink and left.
Next we hit Solid Gold. It was dead so we didn’t even bother sitting down. Tried Sodoma and the same thing. Decided to hit the downtown clubs. Here is where it gets interesting. Hit Ness (where I’ve never had good luck). UW sees a girl he did before. Latasian sees a girl that he likes...she was super cool. Personally not my taste but she was pretty and way funny. Here are some classic lines from this chica:
After informing her that my friend is not a rich guy and inquiring about her prices. She responds, ¨remember a girlfriend is always cheaper than a wife¨. We were cracking up laughing. Then when I ask her if she likes girls and if she would do a 2 girl. She says that yes indeed she likes girls...but only from this club. Then she looks like she is thinking a little, pauses and says in spanish.¨but i like Dick better¨.
I love my room at Art Suite. It´s a crackerjack box compared to the Diplomatic suites at the Etoile hotel but my bed is very comfortable and it´s very private. I like it a lot. The bathroom is really small but who cares. I took many pictures of each room. I think Art Suites is like 4 blocks from PW but it’s so damn convenient to take taxi’s that I always jump in one. (I know UWPhoto may think i´m a lazy ass..which in general is true when it comes to walking).
Getting back to the story. Oh well. Anyway, Latasian is a good dude but he has to be one of the most indecisive guys I’ve met. (no offense Lat...but i think even you will admit it). He has this hottie that says she wants him. I help him negotiate for an all nighter. At first she wanted $100 US for an all nighter..i got it lowered to 300 pesos which she was happy about...but he can’t make up his mind. Rule 1! When you see a hot girl that you click with...go home with her. Don’t regret not going home with a hot girl. I hope he clicked with her...we made him stay there and at least have one more drink with her. I think he is used to Thailand and Asia where the girls might be all over the guys. In BA YOU have to select the girls or show interest.
UWPhoto and I went across the street to Cutty Sark or one of the other spots....it was dead..only one hottie that we both would have done but we wanted 2 girls. We had one drink and skated. Went to Newport’s to check out the action. There were some hotties and they were getting ready to play some live music. We decided to try Sodoma again. I didn´t really like this place. It is wayyyy dark. I couldn´t see jack and i have 20-20 perfect vision. At this point i´m dead tired. Only 3 hours of sleep and 2 GFE sessions. It’s about 1:30 AM at this point. UWPhoto is ready to bust a nut since he hasn’t scored yet. I am very indifferent and could actually go home alone and get some sleep. This chick comes up to me with a good body. I can´t see her face because it’s so dark. (I joked the whole trip that this place should be called the “Black Hole”. She spoke English too so I couldn’t ask UWPhoto if she was good or bad. He had a better viewing advantage point. All I could see was her teeth were jacked up which is a big turn off to me.
She was the first girl this trip that came up to me. She came up to me and told me she thought I was really handsome. She asked if she could sit down. I said sure. Her name was Amanda. UwPhoto at this point had what appeared to be a pretty girl too. Anyway, my girl asks if I want her. I said maybe. I come clean and tell her that I’m tired and that I’ve already had sex with 2 different girls earlier in the day. She laughs. She says that she likes challenges. She said $100 pesos for 1 1-2 hours and that if she couldn’t get me to cum hard I didn’t owe her anything. How could i lose???? While UW is negotiating with his girl. she bumps me on the shoulder and says, ¨su amigo es malo (you´re friend is bad). I ask why. She says because he is cheap and doesn’t want to pay her anything. I used my classic line of ¨mi amigo no es un rico ******¨. I let him negotiate on his own while i leave with my girl. I paid our tab of 130 pesos including exit fees for both of our girls.
Oh yeah…I will also mention this is the first place where the waiter informs me that the tip isn’t good enough. Our bill was something like 110 pesos. I usually tip very generously but we were only in there a little while…I only had a bottled water and the service sucked. I gave him 125 pesos and the guy says that the tip isn’t big enough. I gave him 5 pesos more and told him that if he didn’t accept it I’m not giving him anything. Jerk! It wasn’t the money..it was the principle with me.
On the way out the door I’m already having buyer’s remorse. I don’t care about the money....I just want to only do hot girls this trip. This girl had a good body but she wore too much make up, her teeth were even more jacked up than I thought and she smelled like smoke. The she tells me she needed to get a pack of cigarettes before we get to hotel. (Which of course she didn´t have any money for). I hate smoke but said ok. Then we get up to my room and she wants beer. I didn’t have any so we had to go all the way back down and go to the store so she could get some. At this point I tell the girl....¨look..it´s late, i´ve already had sex with 2 hot girls, smoke your last cigarette because you’re not smoking in my room, let’s go back to my room, drink your beer, and let’s get this over with. She actually seemed to like the demanding tone of my voice. We run into UWPhoto and his girl in the lobby. We’re all going up the elevator and I joke with UW´s girl. I say to her that I thought she said my friend was a bad man. LOL!! We had a lot of laughs....She responds, ¨no, su amigo es muy bueno. El amor de mi vida¨. (No, your friend is very good. He is the love of my life).
I’m damn glad I took Spanish classes since last trip. They have helped immensely not only negotiating but these chicks love a guy that can communicate with them. At the clubs I’ve helped UW and Latasian communicate but UW´s Spanish is better day by day I think.
I knew I´d like UWPhoto. We´d been talking on the phone and online for months. He´s a very affable guy. Just a really nice laid back guy. It was nice meeting Latasian last night too. I hope the appointments today help him see the true BA. I think he is disappointed by BA because he is comparing it to Asian. Guys..this is NO Asia.
Getting back to my girl. Sorry I’m jumping around but I’m typing super fast and want to get out of here. Amanda’s body is sexy. Her face isn’t my type. She’s cool though although she could very well be an alcoholic. She smelled like smoke so I told her to go take a shower which she was happy to do. I was dead tired at this point but I knew we’d have ¨fun¨. I love kissing but I knew i wouldn’t be kissing her with those wicked teeth of hers. She kept trying to kiss and I just turned. Anyway, I ask if I can take pictures and the girl gets in all these modeling poses...I took a ton. I never ask for taking nude pictures but did with her. I probably took 20 pictures. She had a nice ass. She had me turn on MTV and did a strip show to some Brittany Spears song. In the end she didn’t want to leave but I had to get up early to meet my amiga for breakfast.
I gave her the asked for 100 pesos plus a tip. (I´ve never paid that little for sex before...felt like I was stealing)....oh well. At those rates I´ll become a cleptomaniac. LOL.
Today I´m going to lunch with Mayri from [url]www.argentinago.com[/url] and then looking at rooms from Design Suites. I might also look at an apartment to rent-buy. I love this city! I’m gonna have some area-vip or platynum or BOTH this afternoon...then I will hit the clubs again tonight with the fellas.
Exchange rate is still 3.58 today at the cambios. Weather is chilly. Last night in the 30´s. Ouch. Will try to post as time permits. Thank god i can type about 150 words per minute.
Chau amigos.
Saint
P.S. Jackson, you might want to remove Art Suites from your link page. I got the distinct feeling that they didn't like the new make up of their client base. In fact, I'm fairly sure they are going to be changing their policy soon. Probably a big mistake business wise..oh well.
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Update. Sorry i´ve been neglecting to post but been very busy. Where did I leave off? Oh yeah. Yesterday I took Mayri from www.argentinago.com to lunch at a fancy restaurant in Puerto Madero. The food was good but the conversation was better. This is one smart girl. She is one of the nicest people I’ve had the pleasure to meet personally or professionally. She has good contacts here in Buenos Aires and her English is better than some of my American friends..LOL.
We talked about Buenos Aires, hotels, girls and just about everything else. I still maintain she is the best source of cheap hotel and airline tickets for side trips in Buenos Aires. After lunch she took me to check out Design Suites. Guys...Design Suites is very very nice. I like it as much or better than the Art Suites and in fact will stay there in December. (I also hear a rumor that Art Suites will soon not be chica friendly and only letting ¨registered guests¨ stay there but you didn’t hear it from me.
After our tour of Design Suites we walked back to Art Suites just to see how far it is. It was actually shorter than i thought. I hate walking anywhere but it was only about 9 blocks. But again, my theory is why walk when there is a taxi on every corner. After all, you have to conserve your energy for the chicas.
The weather here is colder than I would prefer. I don’t mind a little cool air but the last few nights have been COLD. After I got back to my room I set up an appointment for Latasian. I’m really proud of my Spanish. It definitely helps and the chicas really are glad I can speak Spanish. I think it makes a major difference. None of the girls I’ve seen have been in a hurry to leave. I’ll just BS with them and then eventually kick them out of my room.
I must have seen Arabian Nights one too many times because even though Yael from escorts-argentina is not really my type I called her up. When she arrived I was disappointed with her face. As many that come to Buenos Aires know....the girls here have great bodies but their faces can be a little harsh. That was the case with her. She looked older than the ¨25¨she claimed on the phone. She was interesting though. She is actually a medical student in her last year. I thought she was bullshitting at first but I can tell you with a high % of certainty that she wasn’t BSing. I was going to just give her 100 pesos and tell her I had a headache but I was sitting on the couch and she starts giving me a BJ right there. It was hard to tell a girl to leave after that. I took a few pictures for reference.
One thing I HAVE to point out if you are thinking about seeing her is that her teeth are REALLY jacked up. I mean...REALLY. The girl last night had bad teeth but Yael made Amanda look like the poster girl for Colgate or Dentyne. NO exaggeration! That is a huge turn off for me. She kept trying to kiss me and that mixed with her smoker’s breath was testing my will to stay hard. Unfortunately-fortunately (depending on how you look at it) I’m one horny bastard and my horniess was stronger. She actually provided a really good session but needless to say I’d never call her again just based on what I mentioned above. I negotiated 200 pesos for 2 hours but I let her go after a little over than an hour. Oh well..i forgot to mention she was an hour late too. But at least she called me and told me she was running late.
Since all my posts from last trip, I’ve gotten emails from guys all over the USA and the world. This trip 3 or 4 guys called my hotel room. I met one in my lobby and another last night I invited to dinner. This guy ¨Kick Stand¨ (from this board) was really cool. We met Latasian in his hotel Lobby at Etoile. We all went to Puerto Cristol for dinner. It was a good dinner that came out to 160 pesos with tip for all four of us. I would feel remorse if I mentioned that you should not order fried calamari here unless you are a ¨gambler¨(which by the way UWPhoto is bigtime..but that´s another story all in itself). My ¨fried¨ calamari gushed out when I put my fork into it. All of the other dishes were great.
We must have set a record for going to clubs last night. First of all I’ll say the clubs sucked last night. I haven’t read UWPhoto´s post yet but i can tell you with certainty that things have changed here since my last visit. Many hotties have moved to Chile and Brazil. Many are on vacation too. Almost every club sucked last night. Even the Internet girls I wanted to see the most are gone. For instance...this morning I called about 30 girls and 20 of them were either on vacation, out of the country, or their phone was now disconnected. I don’t want to settle but the girls I really wanted to see are gone. Don’t get me wrong though…still tons of girls to see. You can still find what you’re looking for.
Get this. Lisa is in Brazil, Paola is gone, Marisol is gone, another blonde Clara I saw is gone. Almost all of the hotties from Playwoman. There were a few of the same girls but I was disappointed since last time I had such good luck there.
First we hit the downtown clubs. Hooks was dead at 11:30 PM. Kick Stand and I decided to pass on the other clubs around Hooks. We went directly to Playwoman. It sucked...and UWPhoto and Latasian shortly joined us. We hung out for one drink then left. Walked into Solid Gold..it sucked...we left. Walked into Sadoma. It sucked and we walked in and out. Walked over to Newport. It sucked and we left. Maybe 4 girls in there.
We then decided to try Affaire. At first the guy wanted i think 60 pesos or so for the entrance fee that would cover 4 drinks. I said no and UWPHoto said yes because he thought the guy was asking for all 4 of us. When UW found out that I was right...we were gonna ditch. I asked the doorman how many girls were in there...I popped my head in and he was right..about 40 girls. He offered us 30 pesos for 2 drinks so we did it. At first we thought it would be good but most were older and on closer expection...not worth paying for.
We ditched Affaire and went to Black´s. Blacks had some seemingly hot girls. I told the others I´d see a girl from here even if i had to pay more. I could tell UWPhoto and Latasian were not going to pay the high prices and they left after their one drink. I hung out with Kick Stand and he selected a cutie from Brazil. This girl could dance! I start negotiating with her for him and she is asking for pie in the sky numbers. I was joking around with her because she was crazy. She asked for $200 US for all night at first. I told her that was too much. We start the dance of negotiating. Kick Stand is a younger guy in good shape. I tell her that he likes her but is not a rich man. She laughs. Then here is where it gets whacky. You should know alot of these girls´mathamatical skills are as bad as the diets of the morbidly obese at Weight Watchers. I ask her how much for 2 hours. She says 600 pesos. I ask her is she is borracha (drunk) and joke maybe I should take her champagne away from her. She got a good kick out of the jokes....i wasn´t being an ass...just joking around with her and trying to bring her down to within reason. Then after a while..i ask her again. Now she is asking for 1000 pesos for the whole night. I tell her now that I´m sure she is drunk because 1000 pesos is more than $200 US. She looks puzzled. I have to point out she isn´t the first girl to not be able to convert.
The funny part of our time at Black’s is when my girl asks if I want to do her sister. Her sister looks pretty good from far away but when she came up close her face was not for me. She had a scar on her face. Kick Stand and I were having a good time though. The thought of us doing sisters was pretty amusing. I tell her sister that sorry but I’m into blondes. Then Kick Stand’s girl immediately jumps up and gets her blonde friend when she hears that I like blondes. Her friend wasn’t up to my standards so when she came I told her I was into brunettes…LOL. Yeah I know…
Anyway, she gets down to 450 pesos for 2 hours. More realistic but still high. I´m realistic and realize Blacks girls will always charge more but i advised against it when Kick Stand asks for my opinion. I tried bringing her down more and i think she would have but her sister comes over and tells her in Portuguese not to accept less than 500 pesos for short time. I tell her that a few hundred pesos are better than no pesos. It is not too early at this point. Maybe 3 AM I tell her good luck after she says to take it or leave it.
We paid the bill to Veronica our waitress who formally worked at Playwoman. She remembered me from my last trip. We headed to Shampoo. It sucked too. We paid a 15 pesos fee that covered 1 drink. We left before our third sip.
We headed back to Hook’s and it was about 3:30 AM...it was dead. We left without drinking. Walked over to the club next door and it was dead. Then some guy from that one bar across the street was flagging us down. I asked him if he was joking. The name of the place was Piper´s Pub. I looked the guy in the face and asked him in Spanish to tell me honestly if there are ANY hot girls in there. He pauses 3 seconds..looks to the floor and says....no. LOL! He said to just pop our head in the door. Kick Stand and I looked at each other out of fright and left.
We decided we’d go back to Playwoman and if it was dead we’d call it a night. Kick Stand didn’t have any one that day so I told him he had to get one girl in at least. We arrived there and there were only a few girls. My one friend I know was there and was having a bad night or something. She was crying. I just made sure she was ok then sat down with my friend. We ordered a drink then he saw a cute brunette. She actually spoke great English and was refreshingly honest. She was 31 years old but looked much younger. Had a good body and a great attitude. She barely finished one drink when Kick Stand decided to leave with her. When she was getting her coat he told me he arranged 250 pesos for all night and she would stay as long as he wanted the next day.
At this point it is almost 4 AM. Not many girls here. I did see this girl Solange that I saw the last time I was there. She is a blonde with huge natural breasts. She is a little heavier in the hips than I prefer but I was horny and thought why not....I asked her to sit down and she was actually really cool. She asks me if I want her. I said maybe. She says 200 pesos. I ask her for how long. She said until you are tired. So I tell her that I’m tired now...LOL. So she says at least 2 hours.
I paid the bill to our awesome waitress Mariela. If you´re there..ask for her. This girl was there last time and remembered me. She speaks English fairly. She is really nice. I asked her how much the waitresses there make. She said not a lot. The most she said is 350-450 pesos a month. Damn...that ain´t right. I know some of you are against tipping over 10% but that is where I disagree. If you get good service do what you think is fair. It makes me feel good to tip some of these people that are struggling so much. I gave her a 50 peso tip on a 120 peso bill. She couldn’t believe it and kept thanking me. God I love this country.
I get back to my room with Solange (Sol) and she is very pleasant. Her face was disappointing in the lights of my hotel room. Turns out she has a kid that lives with her and her mom. Her mom knows about her job. She plans to work another year then quit. I really hope she sticks with her plan. On the bright side...when I asked what she did with all her money she made she told me she owns two houses. Smart girl. I started taking some pictures. All of the girls have let me so far. Those of you that also go to BA and have pictures..email me and maybe we can exchange some. Those of you that haven’t been to BA, please go down. I can’t email to everyone and their brother. (saintofba@hotmail.com)
Just be a nice guy and the girls will like you. Every one tells me I'm muy tranquilo which is true. I´m pretty easygoing. She provided a good GFE session. Her tits are nice and big at a D cup. Totally natural. She left at 7 AM and I slept till 11:30 AM. Talked to UWPhoto and we´ll hook up later. We have a date with some normal girls we know tonight. But gotta ditch them before midnight. Our last full night here. I gave Sol 200 pesos plus a little tip.
I´m gonna go eat and try some internet girls. I gotta say I´m disappointed a little with the girls from the clubs. Many are gone. Luckily I love this city so much it makes up for it. The economy must definitely be taking a toll. When I ask many say girls are moving to Chile for more money. Maybe we should be going there. I still love Buenos Aires.
More to come later.
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Quick update. I just got done with a fabulous session with Anastasia from Platynum. She has a GREAT body. Her face is also very pretty. I tried getting pictures but she is adamant about no pictures (even with her face covered or hiding). She said to download her pictures from Platynum. LOL. On the phone at first she was a shred businesswoman. I have the feeling she stays as busy as she wants to be. She asked for $120 US per hour at first and wouldn’t budge. I started joking around with her. Asked her if she had been drinking. and that kind of thing. She started laughing. Then she started lowering her price a little. I got her down to 250 pesos for 1 1/2 hours. I didn’t want to risk not having a little daytime fun. I’m damn glad I accepted. I was very happy with her looks. She looked great when she walked in my door. Had on a tight pair of jeans and a cashmere sweater. She looked like a million dollars.
Guys..I´m telling you. Learn some Spanish before you come. You’ll have a better time with the girls. If i didn´t know any spanish i have the feeling she could have been a lot colder. She really warmed up in bed and was GFE. At first she didn’t want to deep kiss that much but quickly changed her tune. Her body is tight. She works out 3-4 times a week. I’m not really into posting details and have a feeling it´s especially YMMV with her.
We seemed to click. I asked her if she was in town in December for when i return. She said yes. I asked her if she´d be interested in going to Mar Del Plata with me. I asked how much and she said 1000 pesos a day which didn´t seem too too out of line. (Trust me...I'd get my 1000 pesos worth in 24 hours) I told her i was poor but she could tell that wasn´t the case. (I forgot to take off my watch before her visit so she probably assumed i was not a mendigo...ha, ha). I´m not sure I´d take a girl to MDP with me but i´d strongly consider her. She is top shelf material and would be fun. I’m sure she would come down a little on the 24 hour rate. No mistake though. She likes money and I have the sense she might have came from money and readily admitted money is very important to her. I asked her if the BMW in the photos was hers and said no. She said she did have a small car though.
I'm also considering taking Sandy with me and just picking up girls down there with me. Or I might just fly down for 24 hours with Anastasia and then send her home the next day so I can go scouting for talent on my own.
After my session I called Sandy for my buddy Kick Stand. She immediately recognized my voice and thought I was calling back for ME. I started joking around and told her that I couldn’t because I was afraid I’d fall in love with her...ha, ha. She already knows my humor. I´m always joking around with these girls and they really seem to like it. I set up an appointment for Kick Stand for tomorrow. Then i asked her if she knew any hot girls that were into other girls as I plan to get a 2 girl before i leave and the clubs are struggling. She said that she wanted to do a 2 girl with me. I asked her if she really liked girls or was just an actress because I want the real deal.
She said that she liked girls. She said she had a friend also on Escorts-Argentina and would do a 2 girl for me for a good price since we had fun together a few days ago. Yippee. I hated to make my friend wait but he is here until Wednesday so he can wait. I asked her to describe her friend when she said her friend is Jenna. She couldn´t remember her friend´s ¨fake name¨. I think I know who it is but will wait till tomorrow to post the details. If it is who i think it is...i´ll be one happy camper. She quoted 200 pesos for each girl for 2 hours. That’s a bargain to me!!!!
I met UWPhoto earlier today for lunch. I stopped in his room (actually where i booked my session with Anastasia). He was 0/9 calling girls so i hope he scored. I got Anastasia on my first try and she came over in 20 minutes. God, I love the internet girls. 5 star dining at fast food prices to me.
Gotta head back to hotel to shower, change then get ready for our date. I feel bad because I saw my normal chica friend and I think she is developing feelings for me. I feel bad lying to her. UWPhoto and I are telling our girls we have to ¨work¨ at Midnight so we can go clubbing. We invited Latasian and Kick Stand to join us for dinner with our girls.
I´m gonna try to do a 2 girl tonight but it´s slim pickings in the clubs and tonight is Sunday. Typically a bad day for the clubs. If last night is any indicator of the club scene, I might as well bring a list of phone numbers for the internet girls. But one thing I love in the clubs is the experience. We have been having a lot of laughs hanging out together. Kick Stand is a really cool guy that I´ve enjoyed hanging out with. UWPhoto and I click and Latasian is a cool guy too. I plan to blow it out today and tomorrow. I leave tomorrow night. A damn short trip. I love this city. I´ll be sad when i leave.
It doesn´t seem as cold tonight. I exchanged $400 US more dollars today at 3.52 at the casa de cambio near Etoile. Dependable place. I don´t want to go to black market and rates are good enough for me. I´m not sure how i´m going through this much money but things add up. We hit just about every club last night even though we didn’t drink in all of them.
More later....
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Today´s update. Last night I met the boys (UWPhoto, Latasian, Kick Stand) in a bar in Recoleta. UWPhoto was supposed to meet his amiga and I was meeting mine. His never showed up so I didn’t want to go out to dinner with my girl and 3 other dudes. I took her to a very very nice place in Puerto Madero. This girl is very very sweet. She is pretty but not "escort hot". I feel bad as she told me again over dinner that I was special to her. I kept trying to tell her that I am not looking for serious now. She doesn’t know why I come to Buenos Aires and I don’t want her to know. She also wonders why I know so many Americans. Every trip one of my friends is here they say hi to her at the restaurant where she works. Needless to say she thinks I know everyone and their brother...LOL.
We stayed at the restaurant till close to midnight. Then I had to meet the fellas. We decided Hooks at midnight (even though i don´t like that place). Here is where the story gets interesting. I wait, wait, wait and they don’t show up. I conclude they aren’t gonna show. Then these two guys from the United States ask me if this is a strip club or what??? They just got in that day and had no clue of the riches that BA has to offer. They are only here 3 days on a layover to Cordoba. When i tell them what these places are and how they operate their eyes are as wide as my bed at the Art Suites. (Big). One is with his girlfriend so he obviously isn´t gonna play. They all were really nice and cool. None spoke spanish. I helped one with a very pretty girl. I negotiated $50 for two hours since he didn´t have pesos. He was staying right next door at that hotel so it was convenient.
Then i ask his girl who the girl with the prettiest face is in this club. She tells me. This is the first time I don´t want to share a name or possibly photos. I really really really clicked with this girl. She was pretty but more importantly really sweet. She is kind of new to the business still lives with her mom. She was 24 years old and blonde. She was very special. I did an overnighter with her. She didn´t leave till 7:30 this morning when I told her I had to at least get 3 or 4 hours of sleep. We stayed up all night making love (yes....I did say it...you didn´t read wrong..LOL). We also talked a lot. We joked around a lot.
The funny part of the evening was when she saw make up on the pillow from Anastasia, who i saw earlier in the day. Oopsssss. She started calling me "tramposo" (cheater). We had a good laugh. She loved my spanish-english translator so I gave it to her. When I told her it was hers..at first she thought i was saying it was instead of the payment. When she realized it was just a gift she was sooo excited. It probably was about $50 US but it was worth it to see the look on her face. She wanted 300 pesos for all night but I gave her more. When she left in the morning she told me to call her this afternoon before I left so we could at least do coffee or drinks. I’m not sure if it´s a good idea. She gave me her home phone number and her email address. Damn I had fun with her. It’s rare that an escort can touch my heart like this.
Guys, be very careful with your hearts in BA. In Buenos Aires, there is as good a chance of falling in love as there is a chance that a girl here needs braces. (by the way this girl had perfect teeth...maybe that´s why I liked her so much...LOL).
Oh well...at Hooks I ask the girl I’m with if my friends came by. She informs me that yes...indeed they were there but they were there at 11 PM NOT 12 PM. I ask her how long they stayed and she says no longer than 15-20 minutes. I don’t know what the deal is but I didn’t care at this point. At least I wasn’t alone. The 2 Americans kept me company and invited me over to their table. Today I find out from Kick Stand that they thought it was midnight. Idiots.... none of them had a watch on and none of them speak spanish at all (well....UWPhoto does a little but now I question his ability to count 1 -12 ). Not sure what they did but I´m sure Kick Stand will post too.
I called Sandy this morning and I’m still set up for her to come over and do the 2 girl. Get this. I find out her friend is Gema from Escorts-Argentina so this should be interesting. Did I tell you how much I love Buenos Aires????
Anyway, I’m sitting in an internet cafe and Kick Stand is here waiting on me. We’re supposed to meet UWPhoto for lunch but surprise surprise...he isn´t here. Coincidentally the time were supposed to meet is 12:00 so maybe he won’t show up again. LOL!
I exchanged $200 US more dollars today even though I´m leaving at 6 PM tonight. I figure I’ll spend it on something. I already have enough money for the 2 girl. The exchange rate was 3.58 by the casa de cambio near Etoile. The weather is getting warmer too.
I´ll probably post my final post tomorrow from USA.
Chau.