American Politics during the Bush Presidency

Don't confuse him with facts. Just let him keep believing his illusions. No doubt he will ignore the McClatchy report as being a liberal rag specifically because it doesn't agree with his preconceived ideas.

Suerte.

Stowe

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]Actually, that's a popular talking point against Democrats but apparently not true. Here's the nut of the reason followed by a link to the article at McClatchy News:

" Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren't true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.

Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height from 2004 to 2006.

Federal Reserve Board data show that:

* More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.

* Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.

* Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics."

[url]http://www.mcclatchydc.com/104/story/53802.html[/url][/QUOTE]

The TV has been on for about 4 hours while I do various things half paying attention:

Obama at least 10 commercials.

McCain zero.

Has McCain given up on southeast florida: Miami / Ft Lauderdale? Or is he low on $$$$$? Maybe the state republican party has already fixed the election, like.

2000? So why waste money?

[QUOTE=InArgentina][QUOTE=Punter 127][i]"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. "

Except of course when my bank is about to bust.

Then watch these 'No government types' cry like babies for help from the government.

No Government.deregulated economics just doesn't work.

It is about getting the right balance between the Private and Government sectors.

It is about good governement rather than no government. [/QUOTE]Who do you know that has lost money in an American bank "bust " that kept their deposits within the limits of the FDIC?

You seem to know little about the American system, but I would like to know which superior socialist government system you think the United States should pattern itself after?

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[quote]"I had a copy of the Soviet Constitution and I read it with great interest. And I saw all kinds of terms in there that sound just exactly like our own: 'Freedom of assembly' and 'freedom of speech' and so forth. Of course, they don't allow them to have those things, but they're in there in the constitution. But I began to wonder about the other constitutions.- everyone has one.- and our own, and why so much emphasis on ours. And then I found out, and the answer was very simple.- that's why you don't notice it at first. But it is so great that it tells the entire difference. All those other constitutions are documents that say, 'We, the government, allow the people the following rights, ' and our Constitution says 'We the People, allow the government the following privileges and rights. ' We give our permission to government to do the things that it does. And that's the whole story of the difference.- why we're unique in the world and why no matter what our troubles may be, we're going to overcome. "-- Ronald Reagan [/quote]

Why didn't President Raygun ever wear a flag pin? Was he embarrassed to be an American? Perhaps he was a secret Muslim. Seems very unpatriotic to me.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz] Whats up with the Gipper.

Why didn't President Raygun ever wear a flag pin? Was he embarrassed to be an American? Perhaps he was a secret Muslim. Seems very unpatriotic to me.[/QUOTE]"There you go again."……. Daddy, “I'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponents youth and inexperience."

Early voting started in my home state yesterday, so I did my duty and cast my vote.

I should be able to vote everyday between now and the election, thanks ACORN!

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[I]To quote a famous Chicagoan "vote early and vote often"![/i]

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Early voting started in my home state yesterday, so I did my duty and cast my vote.

I should be able to vote everyday between now and the election, thanks ACORN!

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[I]To quote a famous Chicagoan "vote early and vote often"![/i][/QUOTE]McOldGuy might win if you could.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz] Well then.

McOldGuy might win if you could.[/QUOTE] "There you go again."……Spoken like a true Obama Sheeple.

I cast my vote against the messiah and socialism, as I refuse to bow down to Obama, but that doesn ’t necessarily equal a vote for McCain.

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[I] The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson [/i]

[I] The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin [/i]

[QUOTE=Miami Bob]Maybe the state republican party has already fixed the election, like.

2000? So why waste money?[/QUOTE]And 2004!

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]McOldGuy might win if you could.[/QUOTE]I think you are not being fair to McCain by calling him McOldGuy. I think a more accurate name is McAngryOldGuy.

Suerte.

Stowe

SF is a city that provides so many interesting pieces of news.

First, they are trying to prevent / outlaw the ROTC from all schools which I think is absolutely wrong and contrary to freedom of choice.

Then then are planning to rename a sewer plant to be named Bush Sewer facility. That is soooo appropriate as the only thing that is more full of shit than a sewer plant is George Bush.

Suerte.

Stowe

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Who do you know that has lost money in an American bank "bust " that kept their deposits within the limits of the FDIC?[/quote]Punter 127 or should I call you Comrade? Finally you see the light.

The FDIC is a GOVERNMENT agency set up to protect depositors from PRIVATE banks failing.

Your question simply proves my point. The Government needs to get involved.

[QUOTE=Punter 127]". But I would like to know which superior socialist government system you think the United States should pattern itself after?"[/quote]Why not borrow ideas from different countries? You have already adopted a Swedish style bailout of the banks. Actually in the long run Sweden is not a bad model.

The USSA must care for the healthcare needs and education needs of millions of poor Mexicans etc that are migrating to the country. This is a huge task that can only be dealt with by a Government willing to get involved.

Do you want migrants to learn English - who is going to teach them? McDonalds? The local drug gang?

I say be compassionate and embrace socialism.

The USSA needs to reduce its dependence on oil. Again the Government needs to get involved.

The USSA needs to address Climate Change with greater urgency. Again the Government needs to get more actively involved.

[QUOTE=Stowe]I think you are not being fair to McCain by calling him McOldGuy. I think a more accurate name is McAngryOldGuy.

Suerte.

Stowe[/QUOTE]There's some more of that famous liberal name-calling.

Can't you guys make a point without personally denigrating people?

Apparently not.

Thanks,

Jackson

I find your post totally ludicrous and really unworthy of a reply, however being the tolerant and compassionate person that I am, I ’m going to reply anyway. (This time)

[QUOTE=InArgentina] Punter 127 or should I call you Comrade? Finally you see the light. [/quote] You can call me anything you like from the safety of your computer, but don ’t be fooled by my mild-mannered demeanor; you would be [b] gravely mistaken [/b]to think I won’t stand and fight for freedom!

[QUOTE=InArgentina]The FDIC is a GOVERNMENT agency set up to protect depositors from PRIVATE banks failing. [/quote]FDIC has been part of the American system for 75 years, it’s nothing new.

[QUOTE=InArgentina]Your question simply proves my point. The Government needs to get involved. [/quote]Wrong again, we’re a free country that was founded on the concept of limited government, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have laws and limited regulations.

[QUOTE=InArgentina]Why not borrow ideas from different countries? You have already adopted a Swedish style bailout of the banks. Actually in the long run Sweden is not a bad model. [/quote] El Alamo in the stock market thread said it best; “The U. S. Economy is the race horse and will should always do well relative to other economies.” I agree with him and I think it also applies to the USA in general.

BTW I did not favor the bank bailout, but please if you really like the Swedish system so much feel free to catch the next flight. I would offer to contribute to the cost, but that would be a little to socialist for me.

[QUOTE=InArgentina] The USSA must care for the healthcare needs and education needs of millions of poor Mexicans etc that are migrating to the country. This is a huge task that can only be dealt with by a Government willing to get involved. [/quote]The hell you say, I agree the government needs to get involved, but what they need to do is close the borders and send these illegals back where they came from. We don’t owe these people a damn thing, not one red cent!

[QUOTE=InArgentina] Do you want migrants to learn English - who is going to teach them? McDonalds? The local drug gang? [/quote]I want to send them back where they came from, if they are illegally in the USA. Learning English should be a condition of gaining citizenship, but not the government’s responsibility to teach it.

If I migrate to Sweden or Argentina or any other country will any of their governments take the responsibility to teach me their language? If they will lets send them our illegals.

[QUOTE=InArgentina] I say be compassionate and embrace socialism. [/quote] Yes Sirree Bob, that’s going to happen!

I hope you and your socialist buddies hold your breath waiting for me to “embrace socialism”!

Socialism is great for sheeple who are unable or unwilling to make decisions about their own destiny and those that need someone to take them by the hand and show them the way.

My forefathers came to the USA to escape government and religious oppression, and my family members have fought to defend our freedom, (and the freedom of others) I plan to continue supporting that family tradition.

[QUOTE=InArgentina] The USSA needs to reduce its dependence on oil. Again the Government needs to get involved. [/quote]Government involvement is the reason we’re dependent on foreign oil, when it becomes cost effective private enterprise will end that dependency.

[QUOTE=InArgentina]The USSA needs to address Climate Change with greater urgency. Again the Government needs to get more actively involved. [/quote]I think we have a thread for this subject and I’m not going to debate it here.

[b]I’m a flag waving, tax paying United States Citizen, and I’m proud of it! With all it’s imperfections our system is still the best system in the world, bar none! [/b]

I find it interesting that you seem to always speak of the United States as a third party, so that brings a burning question to mind; Are you a United States Citizen?