2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=Jackson;425966]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about Mitt Romney's tax returns.

Nobody gives a fuck about Mitt Romney's tax returns EXCEPT liberals who fantasize about endlessly parsing every line item therein. Romney is too smart to fall for this trap.[/QUOTE]

Polls show most Americans, including [b]most independents[/b], think Romney should release his tax returns. This is standard for anyone running for President. Why should Romney get an exemption ? What the fuck is the guy hiding ?

[QUOTE]Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen
[/QUOTE]

You forgot something: [b]And what's responsible for these numbers ?[/b]

It's a 'gift' from Republicans just as much as from Democrats. Too bad John Boehner walked away from the table when they had a chance to cut $4 Trillion last year.

[QUOTE=Mpexy;425978]You will be a number. Your net positive future "contribution" will be a number. Grandma WILL be allowed to die because health care must be rationed against both the continually shrinking services supply (eg doctors and high-q nurses) and the funding available.[/QUOTE]Guess what. You're already a number. Your healthcare is already rationed. I liked your last post, but the Grandma talk makes you sound like Sarah Palin.

Personally, I don't like the idea of being denied coverage if I have a pre-existing condition. Or going bankrupt if I get sick. And I really don't like the idea of having my Medicare RATIONED through a Romney / Ryan voucher program.

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;425984]The budget deficit was $438 Billion in FY 2008. Who was the president in FY 2008, which by the way, almost entirely took place BEFORE the economic crash.[/QUOTE]This election is [u]NOT[/u] about the federal budget deficit 4 years ago under a different administration.

This election is about the federal budget deficit today under the Obama Administration.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

[size=3][b]- 8.3% unemployment
- $3.80 per gallon gas
- $1,000,000,000,000 annual budget deficits
- $16,000,000,000,000 national debt
- $51,074.84 of national debt owed by each citizen[/b][/size]

Thanks,

Jackson

Very good first night. San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro gave a great speech, he countered some of the Republican themes head on:

[QUOTE]"We know that in our free market economy some will prosper more than others. What we don't accept is the idea that some folks won't even get a chance. And the thing is, Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are perfectly comfortable with that America. In fact, that's exactly what they're promising us."[/QUOTE]

Clinton is on tomorrow. You guys should tune in, to get another perspective on Democratic views. Not just the programming from the right wing media, where they repeat simple messages over and over, without any critical thinking....

[QUOTE=Sidney;425999]I have scheduled cataract surgery, Oct 7. Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15! The 'Death Panel'![/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us why Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15 rather than politicizing it. Sarah Palin is long gone, a victim of her own uselessness. When she pose for Playboy, then I will acknowlege her assets.

There was not any job growth for twelve months before Obama was in office.

In other words the Job Losses started with the Republican President. The Job Creators were not hiring, just laying off workers.

4 million jobs have been created since then.

The Jobs Bill would have created 3 million more Jobs.

But the Republican Congress voted it down.

The Job Creators are waiting for more tax cuts.

Hypocrites.

P.S.
There are 3 millions jobs going unfilled, because of our education system. Our people are not qualified.
And the Republicans want to cut teachers and schools again. Sounds like they are making our country a Third World Country for Cheaper Workers.

"You Can't Handle The Truth!"

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425997]This election is [u]NOT[/u] About the federal budget deficit 4 years ago under a different administration.

This election is about the federal budget deficit today under the Obama Administration.

Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Yes, Obama caused all of these in less than 4 years.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 425973]Gentlemen, please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;426007]Yes, Obama caused all of these in less than 4 years.[/QUOTE]Let's not forget 2 wars started by the Republican's and funded by the US tax payers. We are talking about trillions of dollars, here.

Now, Romney and the neo-cons, including Senator McCain, are posturing to enter additional conflicts & WARS with countries like Iran and Syria.

Where would that money come from?

These war mongers are completely silent about that.

Obama's acceptance speech has been moved from a 73, 000 seat stadium to a 500 seat closet. Obama says it is because of weather concerns. The mayor of Charlotte says it is because there are not more than 500 Obama supporters in all of north carolina and these 500 Obama supporters are all long term residents of mental institutions.

We are approaching the end times. The sun does not shine, rain does not fall, crops wither, people go hungry, unemployment soars, crime is everpresent and overlooking all is darth vader aka Barrak Obama. A sinister creature from another continent.

[QUOTE=El Alamo;426028]We are approaching the end times. The sun does not shine, rain does not fall, crops wither, people go hungry, unemployment soars, crime is everpresent and overlooking all is darth vader aka Barrak Obama. A sinister creature from another continent.[/QUOTE]Just put on your raincoat, and go to the bus shelter. Put a empty giant 7-11 cup in front of you and a hopeful face, you will be alright! Fresh air, open space, a steady stream of visitors, no stress, man!

I know somewhat know about your goals.

Profit. Give me some insider Help.

I will check how many Republicans voted with the Demos on your time frame.

But Bush went to War Without the UN's Help. WMDs? And Cried later that he needed them.

I know that you are not in complete agreement with the Republican Party.

They do not your same your Social Interests.

Republicans plans do not agree with Co-Operation within the Parties.

Check Bill Clinton's SPEECH, it is Not Too Be Missed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5knEXDsrL4

[url]http://www.policymic.com/articles/14181/dnc-schedule-of-speakers-live-bill-clinton-speech-time-video-of-all-wednesday-speeches[/url]

Unless you are really dumb and can't Read.

Check it on YouTube.

I listened to the Republicans in Tampa, they left me with Ice Sickles in my Heart.

I Cried during a lot of the Demo's Speeches.
Especially the Woman War Iraq War Vets speech, that serviced for You and Me that Lost Her Legs for Our Country.

The Republicans did not mention Our Vets or their Wars, that were lies?

But Bill said was We Need Co-Operation between the All Parties, not just the Republicans, Indies, Etc. included.
Which the Republicans have not Done.


[QUOTE=Sidney; 426018]A little history lesson.

A lot of people don't care for Bush but here is the story.

This tells the story, why Bush appeared so bad at the end of his term.

Don't just skim over this, it is not very long, read it slowly and let it sink in. If in doubt, check it out!

The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007 the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:

January 3rd. 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

The DOW Jones closed at 12, 621. 77.

The GDP for the previous quarter was 3. 5%

The Unemployment rate was 4. 6%

George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH.

Remember the day. January 3rd. 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

Unemployment. To this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie. Starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA.

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA and the Democrat Congress.

So when someone tries to blame Bush.

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd. 2007. THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 &2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Senator Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sidney; 426018]A little history lesson.

A lot of people don't care for Bush but here is the story.[/QUOTE]Here is the story about Sidney. A nice guy, a good friend to mongers, but also the biggest ranter against "Obamanation" this board ever saw. How else did his post count get so high? Be prepared to be inundated with right wing nonsense if he returns to his old ways.

His "history lesson" is a copy and paste from the right wing blogosphere. It has a simple rebuttal - the financial "greed is good" house of cards was built between 2001-2006 when Republicans controlled every branch of the federal government. All that was left was for it to come crashing down, regardless of who was in power afterwards.

[QUOTE=Sidney;425999]I have scheduled cataract surgery, Oct 7. Medicare will not pay after Oct. 15! The 'Death Panel'![/QUOTE]Sidney, oddly enough I can't find a peep about this on google. Please provide a credible link! Or be known as just another Republican peddling deception.