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Saint
I havent been on this board in months but am just starting to research my next trip down to Argentina (with what is clearly going to be a really long trawl through the 2004 posts) and am very pleasantly surprised to see that you have moved down to Argentina permanently - and that you seem so happy with the move. You (and Andres) were one of the original inspirations for me for my first trip (this will be my third) so I very much hope that things are working out for you in BA, and I would love to make the move myself one day so I look forward to reading your updates.
suerte - best of luck with your move,
MH.
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So it's time to plan another trip. I'm trying to decide if I should go back to BA or maybe strike out for Rio/San Paulo. One thing that was off putting about my last BA trip was that the prices the girls were asking for had jumped significantly. I didn't end up taking any girls from Madaho's because they were asking for 300 and wouldn't budge. It used to be 100-150. Are the prices there still Blacks level or have they come back down to earth?
Saint, you have my admiration. I think we made our first trips at the same time. Often I've thought about doing what you've done, but I haven't pulled the trigger.
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Knuckhead,
Thank you, thank you! Bravisimo the reporte! Very complete in juicy detail. Good, that's how reports should be done.
Let me ask you a few questions, if you don't mind.
How was the weather? Was it pleasant? Cold?. Did you visit Blacks, Madaho's or Salome?.Did you find the cost of the trip significantly more expensive than let's say last year? Taxis, lunches, drinks etc.. Do you have pictures of Natalia and Karina? Or are they at platynum.com? Thanks, Knuckhead Again excellent report Bravisimo, Opera Man, Grande Stiffo!
DWC
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Thanks for the nice words and well wishes guys. I mean that. It's great here but again life here is great when you're on vacation and still making money. Not so easy not making money. Hopefully my happy posts don't delude guys into thinking it's easy. It's not.
Justgotback,
Yes. We took our first trips at the same time. As far as prices at Madaho's I believe the absolute minimum they will ask you for is 200 pesos. Last trip I got one girl down to 150 pesos. They all told me they were charging "local" prices to me. The prices that they charge to local Portenos. They have a two tiered pricing system there for the most part. One for Yankees and one for locals who they know make much less. The Black's girls were charging a local minimum of 300 pesos.
I don't pull girls out of those clubs now. Too pricey. However, I do sometimes go with friends that are in town. Sterling V and I went in there the other night. Most of the girls weren't that good but there were some cute girls there. An old friend came over last night that used to work at Madaho's and she said they have lowered their standard for working there. Now, any girl that basically agrees to show up at least 5 days a week can work there. It shows........ One of the best strategies is just getting their phone numbers and then seeing them during the day. The girls have less to worry about during the day when they don't have to worry about catching a bigger fish with more money, you don't have to pay exit fees or drinks either. It's a good strategy. One girl even gave me her # without me asking for it. The chances she will stay with you longer during the day are high too. You can take them out to lunch, get to know them and then go back to your pad for some fun. Always been a good strategy for me.
If you have the money and don't mind spending it than Black and Madahos are still good options. I was having dinner with a guy the other night at the Mansion and he kept harping how he couldn't believe guys would pay 200 pesos for a short time session. Then went on to tell how he was picking up girls (no women..I think he said she was 50+). To each his own. Everyone has their own tastes, budgets, style, etc. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same taste.
Have fun guys.
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DWC:
Thanks for the kind words. You asked:
"- How was the weather? Was it pleasant? Cold?":
I would say it was pleasantly cool. It rained for 3 out of the 4 days I was there, but not heavily. I had a light jacket on, but it was very interesting to see some porteƱos with heavy winter coats :).
"- Did you visit Blacks, Madaho's or Salome?"
No, not this time. I didn't visit any of these "higher end" boliches last time either. I don't like the smoke filled, loud environments as well as having to buy chica drinks. I feel that between the internet girls and privados there are plenty of good values to be found. Still, one of these days I am going to have to visit Black, just to see what all the hype is about.
"-Did you find the cost of the trip significantly more
expensive than let's say last year? Taxis, lunches,
drinks etc...."
No, there wasn't much difference between August and March. Then again, consider that I didn't visit Madahos, etc... this trip. I visited Madahos once in Ocotber of last year, and I pulled two chicas out for a total of AR$300 (together) then. From what I am told, it is now hard to even pull one chica out for AR$200, but this is second hand information.
"- Do you have pictures of Natalia and Karina? or are
they at platynum.com?"
Unfortunately no. I did search platynum and "reverse google'ed" Santa Fe 1707's telephone number, but came out empty-handed. If anybody else knows of pictures of other talent at SF 1707, please come forward!
Hope this helped!
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DWC,
The night I went in, both Karina and Natalia were in the line up. Natalia is short and average looking. But has a great attitude. Instantly, I realized that one would have a great time with her. Karina is pretty, nice figure, but was kind of reserved. But when Romina walked in, the room was filled with 1000 Watts bulbs. I didn't have to think twice for my choice. That night, I forgot to take money (100's) and I counted all my 10's and 5's and 2's and I came up with 87 Peso and 2 dollar bills. I was ashamed to tip her 7 peso. She gave me back 5 peso for my taxi back to my apt. Never asked for any money for BBBJ and other extras. Absolutely my kind of girl!
Bandy
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$10 PESO CHUPA
I've been in Buenos Aires for 5 days now and have been really enjoying myself to the max.
Besides going to my usual haunts along Ave. Cordoba like Cafe Exedra, Cafe Orleans and Castelars, I've been going out to the Constitution area.
On Sunday I saw a real cute )innocent looking) girl on Juan Garay, so I approached her and asked what she wanted for a chupa. My mouth dropped open when she said $10 pesos )$3.30) I couldnt believe it. So I said lets go, and we went to one of those albergue transitorios and got a room. This girl was so shy and quiet it was hard to get anything from her in the way of info except that she was from Paraguay had 2 kids and was 30 years old. Rosa was her name.
Anyway it ended up a pretty good chupa session. Another time I met an Alejandra on the same street )older, tall blonde) and she only wanted $15 pesos )$5) for chupa, another mouth opener sort of speak.
Anyway, there's some inexpensive action out there now, take care.
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Actaully Bad Boy reminds me of Nibu Raphael(with better English). If anyone could get to the bottom, and I really mean the "BOTTOM" of the mongering scene it was Nibu Rapheal.
I was reading his section recently and noticed his English has really improved. I remember a few years ago when it was almost torture trying to read his posts. By the latest counts he's up to 3425 posts. All I have to say is WOW!!!
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Not sure if Bad Boy can be compared to Nibu.
Nibu's 30000+ posts are mostly "GuYS, Do yoU haVe aNy infO on xXxX ?" He sometimes hits several countries with the same question and sometimes the same country more than once in a day. Hence the high count.
Not sure if Bad Boy wants to be compared to Nibu !
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Please gang DO NOT compare me to Nibu. I try to come out of the basura once in a while HA HA.
For those who don't know a 'chupa' is a BJ.
I'll continue to keep up the hunt for 'bargains' out there in the wilds of BA. Take care -- bayboy
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Take you camera sometime. I'd like to see what a 10 peso girl looks like. :)
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First timer does the traditional tour:
During the week I was in Buenos Aires I was taking huge hits in the stock market. The value of my portfolio had gone down enough to cover my vacations for the year and half of next's years. I did the only sane thing a man can do. I decided to go to the most expensive place that I knew - Black.
I like Black. I was only there for a half hour or so but I think it is nice pond to fish in if you do not mind spending some money.
One thing is that the girls do not approach you until you invite them over. If you invite them over then they expect you to buy them a drink in fairly short order. I met Paula and she told me that she would not discuss price until I bought her a drink. It was the practice at this club. I imagine you can work around this rule but I was interested in the this lady Paula.
Paula is a brunette, very petite with a very large natural breasts. Her only flaw is crooked teeth but I have that one too. She speaks very good English. She says she has been studying since February. The girl has some ambition. Maybe a Jennifer Love Hewitt type look. Not as beautiful as Jennifer but definitely pretty.
She asked for $200 US out the gate and I laughed. We finally settled on $350 AR.
Actually her petiteness proved to be a problem as I was a little big for her. Some girls have said to me that I am a little thicker than normal. These are girls that have seen a few. Believe what you want to believe. I did not spend much time screwing because she was not comfortable. She did give head and was the only one in Argentina that allowed CIM. Even the the BJ was difficult because because I felt a lot of teeth.
What was classic about the time I had with her is that she brought back many of my own foibles. I typically fall for petite women and yet I an just not the type that these women go for. Petite women as a rule are very neat and precise. I am more a person that lives in chaos. Never the twain shall meet. In fact she gave me the classic line that I have heard maybe five or six times in my life. "I am just a girl." The ones that use this line are the ones that are burning with passion and about to burst out to become supernovas. The first time I heard it was from the first person from my university ever to be accepted to Harvard Medical school. I still think about her sometimes.
It reminds me of the Seinfield where George feels his line "It's not you, it's me" is co-opted by his girlfriend.
Paula riffled through my things. She saw all the phone numbers I had collected during the week. She commented that I had already seen a girl named Paula that week. She gave me the "I am just a girl" and left without leaving a phone number.
So it just goes to prove that you can go to Buenos Aires and monger but you cannot hide. You cannot really escape who you are.
I will go to Black again.
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A couple of years back I got a decent low dollar Chulpa at a bordello. I think it was 12 pesos, maybe 15. I forget now. No special bargaining it was fixed price. You're not getting a TLN, more like a Amsterdam window experience. Search the archives for my post. One of the poster's lead me on to it. As for the girl. She could have easily worked at Madaho's. I kept thinking why is she working here? It's all about volume. A lot of the Madaho's girls don't get choosen all night. This girl was constantly working. I had to wait for her. After me, she was in the "lobby" for about 5 seconds before she was heading back with another client.
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I just got back from Buenos Aires and stayed in an apartment in Las Canitas/Palermo. Great place but could not fine much mongering. Does anyone know how I should go about finding private apartments or clubs/strip clubs where mongering is available. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. I am going back down in November and want to be prepared.