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Should Israel be running American foreign policy? Better yet, Netanyahu should be Secretary of State should Romney wins. Wait, I think he should run for president in place of Romney. I am sure he has dual ciitizenship.
If there is one thing I miss out here in Bangkok, it is a Jewish deli. Corned beef & pastrami sandwiches, cabbage slaw, potato salad, lox, cream cheese & bagel, gerkins. I'm about to cum.
[QUOTE=Black Shirt; 426351]Should Israel be running American foreign policy? Better yet, Netanyahu should be Secretary of State should Romney wins. Wait, I think he should run for president in place of Romney. I am sure he has dual ciitizenship.
If there is one thing I miss out here in Bangkok, it is a Jewish deli. Corned beef & pastrami sandwiches, cabbage slaw, potato salad, lox, cream cheese & bagel, gerkins. I'm about to cum.[/QUOTE]I believe that the USA should support Israel both politically and militarily, but I also believe that Israel exercises a bit too much influence in America's foreign affairs to the determent of our relations with some of the rest of the mid-east.
I'm also tired of hearing the same old line about "Israel is our strongest ally in the Mid-East". The fact is that while Israel is technically an ally of the USA, they will never be able to cooperate or participate with the USA in any military action. For example, you didn't see any Israel military participation in the USA's liberation of Afghanistan or Iraq.
Having Israel as an ally is like having the biggest bully in the school yard as your ally, but the bully is always in detention.
Thanks,
Jackson
BTW: Black Shirt, Thanks for lunch!
[QUOTE=Jackson; 426356]I believe that the USA should support Israel both politically and militarily, but I also believe that Israel exercises a bit too much influence in America's foreign affairs to the determent of our relations with some of the rest of the mid-east.
I'm also tired of hearing the same old line about "Israel is our strongest ally in the Mid-East". The fact is that while Israel is technically an ally of the USA, they will never be able to cooperate or participate with the USA in any military action. For example, you didn't see any Israel military participation in the USA's liberation of Afghanistan or Iraq.
Having Israel as an ally is like having the biggest bully in the school yard as your ally, but the bully is always in detention.
Thanks,
Jackson.
BTW: Black Shirt, Thanks for lunch![/QUOTE]Spot On El Jefe.
Rommney will be the pawn of Isreal and send our boys to win oil wars.
Jackpot
[QUOTE=Jackson; 426356]I believe that the USA should support Israel both politically and militarily, but I also believe that Israel exercises a bit too much influence in America's foreign affairs to the determent of our relations with some of the rest of the mid-east.
I'm also tired of hearing the same old line about "Israel is our strongest ally in the Mid-East". The fact is that while Israel is technically an ally of the USA, they will never be able to cooperate or participate with the USA in any military action. For example, you didn't see any Israel military participation in the USA's liberation of Afghanistan or Iraq.
Having Israel as an ally is like having the biggest bully in the school yard as your ally, but the bully is always in detention.
Thanks,
Jackson.
BTW: Black Shirt, Thanks for lunch![/QUOTE]Now there's something we can definitely agree on. That tail has been wagging the dog for too long. Ridiculous.
If the USA really wanted to play realpolitik, they would gradually increase support for the modern and pragmatic states in the Mideast, and lessen the absurdly out of proportion support for Israel. Everybody knows that the "impartial" stance posited by the USA is a very poor joke. A bit more leverage would be the result.
It won't happen though. Too many electoral votes to lose come election time. For both parties.
[QUOTE=Jackson;426356]I believe that the USA should support Israel both politically and militarily, but I also believe that Israel exercises a bit too much influence in America's foreign affairs to the determent of our relations with some of the rest of the mid-east.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
[QUOTE=Jackpot;426357]Rommney will be the pawn of Isreal and send our boys to win oil wars.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think the odds are > 50% we go to war if Romney is elected.
Toymann,
At some point you have to start asking serious questions about whether Romney is fit for president. His screw-up this week was his worst yet.
Repeating the lie that the administration apologized for the attacks, doesn't make it true. It's a bald-faced lie. I'd ask you to post a link to back this up, but we all know you can't. You're in the gutter with Romney with this line of response.
Romney foreign policy attack was disgraceful
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/opinion/avlon-romney-libya-attack/index.html[/url]
How badly did Romney botch response to Libya attack?
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57511707/how-badly-did-romney-botch-response-to-libya-attack/[/url]
[i]"The comments were a big mistake, and the decision to double down on them was an even bigger mistake," Steve Schmidt, senior campaign strategist to Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign, told CBS News."There are legitimate criticisms to be made but you foreclose on your ability to make them when you try to score easy political points. And the American people, when the country is attacked, whether they're a Republican or Democrat or independent, want to see leaders who have measured responses, not leaders whose first instinct is to try to score political points."[/i]
I really love all this talk about 'moderate' Arab states, would that be Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq or perhaps Egypt? As I recall when the current despot took over Syria the US had high hopes he would be a 'moderate', guess that didn't work out so well did it.
How about Egypt, really 'moderate' and steadfast 'ally' there; or Iraq after liberation from Saddam and billions in aid, another sterling example of a 'moderate' Arab country.
There is no such thing as a 'moderate' Arab country; they live by a code from the 4th century and respect only one thing, force, so why do we want to give 'moderate' Arabs more money.
Nearly $2 Billion has not bought us much in Egypt, we spent even move in Iraq and still more in Afghanistan where we are losing more troops to Green on Blue than to combat operations.
Say what you will about Israel, they have mastered one thing we continue to let our political leaders steal from us, Israel has learned to WIN and WIN EVERYTIME.
Israel is the closest think to an ally we have in the area, like it or not it is just the truth. Anytime you think we need to just cut them lose, take a little stroll down memory lane circa 1939 to 1944, or listen to Louis Farrakhan or your 'moderate' Arabs.
Unlike Obama and the liberals I don't give a damn if the Arabs love us, so long as they FEAR US, I'm good with that. It's just the way the world is like it or not, civilization is but a very thin veneer easily cast aside.
Esten, the only people pounding anyone about the "new Arab spring" are the liberal media pounding Romney and not asking a single hard ball question of Obama because they are too busy pandering over him.
What is really sad is the comment they choose to pounce on was made BEFORE the attacks, but both you and they seem to let this little fact slip past you.
The second saddest thing is Clinton and Obama blaming a UTUBE video of causing all this havoc, ignoring 9/11 altogether. You have to ask yourself, what sort of people become so upset with a video which they feel demeans their 'religion' that they have to go kill 'crusaders'? See my earlier post about their 4th century mentality and what they respect.
After three years of limp wristed genuflecting to the 'Arabs' this is what we get, they perceived weakness and pounced. 'Bring them to justice', now just how is His Highness going to do that in a foreign country? He is not about to launch a hellfire missile attack from a drone or manned military aircraft in Libya or Egypt. The FBI is on the ground, give me a break. A bunch of FBI guys knocking around in a foreign country with no jurisdiction or powers are going to doing to do exactly what? Go check your history of the FBI's 'success' in dealing with Arab states on investigates. They are mushrooms, kept in the dark and covered with shit.
Get your jacket today.
[QUOTE=Esten; 426364]Toymann,
At some point you have to start asking serious questions about whether Romney is fit for president. His screw-up this week was his worst yet.
Repeating the lie that the administration apologized for the attacks, doesn't make it true. It's a bald-faced lie. I'd ask you to post a link to back this up, but we all know you can't. You're in the gutter with Romney with this line of response.
Romney foreign policy attack was disgraceful.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/opinion/avlon-romney-libya-attack/index.html[/url]
How badly did Romney botch response to Libya attack?
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57511707/how-badly-did-romney-botch-response-to-libya-attack/[/url]
[i]"The comments were a big mistake, and the decision to double down on them was an even bigger mistake," Steve Schmidt, senior campaign strategist to Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign, told CBS News."There are legitimate criticisms to be made but you foreclose on your ability to make them when you try to score easy political points. And the American people, when the country is attacked, whether they're a Republican or Democrat or independent, want to see leaders who have measured responses, not leaders whose first instinct is to try to score political points."[/i][/QUOTE]
Will it be a portena, saltena, chakena, missionera or paraguaya that I will select from Madahos using your donation to my mongering fund. These are the truely tough decions that occupy my mind these days. This election is all but over dude. The media can keep on prasing Obomanation and demonizing Romney all they want. It's all over but the crying. Get your towel out (and you wallet, jejejejeje). Monger on Esten. Toymann.
Ps. You so underestimate Americans dude. Shame. Shame. Shame.
[QUOTE=Esten;426330]Please, double and triple-down on the Republican strategy, "We can say anything and make believe it's true." Obama's post-convention bounce is largely because Democrats helped more people realize just how much deception Republicans were spewing. Continuing that strategy won't reverse the recent trend.[/QUOTE]Esten, That's one of several posts where you said Romney and Republicans are liars. Are you clear minded enough to realize your side is just as bad or worse? The foremost reason Obama probably will win is because he's a better liar than Romney.
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;426348]do you REALLY still believe at this point that Romney still has a chance to win this election? The Fed has now launched QE3 and the European Central Bank has made it clear it will support the PIGS bonds for the time being so essentially the stock market is going to be floating on cloud 9 until at least Election Day.[/QUOTE]Good point Snake. And the second reason Obama will probably win. Obama has been spending like there's no tomorrow and the Fed is pitching in and doing its share, buying lots and lots of debt and guaranteeing interest rates will be close to "0" for 7 years (2008 to 2015). Future generations will pay, with debt they will never be able to pay back and high inflation. Obama and Bernanke are the principal culprits, although Bush and Congressional leaders share the blame.
You Are TOOOO UP TIGHT.
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Because they need US.
Where are You, On Romney's Planet? GOPLASHIT. Where is That?
Sorry, I am late to reply, so much Republican Bull Shit Going On, it is tough to keep up with It, let alone the Fucking Lies, with NO PROOF.
READ Rowney's BOOK,"No Apologies" Read the Reviews!
ALL the Countries He Mentioned in his B00K, there are No Facts, just Lies. No, Just Cold War Make Believes. Romney says are main opponent is Russia.
He is Stuck in the Long Ago, Cold War.
Romney Said No Apologizes will given by Him.
All of Obama's speeches were checked. Not One Apology to any Country that he mentioned his Bull Shit Book were made.
I feel sorry for you wanting a new leader, but come on, not TWO MORE, Sarah Palin Dumb Shits, they will not MAKE A New COUNTRY.
I REALLY FEEL YOUR PAIN!
Our Country Needs You, Not A Bought and Paid for Government.
What the Constitution Wanted Was "One Man One Vote".
It did not say Company Operations were People, to Be Bought For, by the Rich Men or Women and their Corporations," but was approved by the Supreme Court in The Super-Pac Ruling. I Wish I had the under the table money they got for that Vote.
Gee, it does not sound Fishy to me and I guess to You.
SELL OUR COUNTRY TO THE RICH?
Tell us where it is said the Boss's were it charge?
"Lincoln Said NO More Slaves."
SOME OF YOU ARE SLAVES TO MONEY!
[QUOTE=Rocky2;426091]Why and the hell would we want to be like those other countries?[/QUOTE]
Worldtravel69.
After reading your last dozen political rants without comment, it appears everything you are upset about and constantly spam-spew on the board can be much more easily and concisely written. May I suggest you just merely copy paste this so at least we all can scroll less?
'random rant re: [insert topic here]
-Everything I say is right.
-Everything the other side says is wrong and has no proof even when credentialed sources provides facts. "Facts" from the other side are lies, lies from my side are clearly always "facts"
-I actually have no proof that my side has any better "proof", or proof that the other side has no proof, but that's ok, my opinion just routes back to logic line #1.
-if you disagree with me, you must be evil, a traitor, or clearly a no-proof other side guy and hence, automatically I am right. '
And p.s. as often as it is referenced the original Constitution is an amazingly concise document - easily downloaded, easily read/searched. I suggest you do so.
The Constituion did NOT want one man one vote. In fact, the Constitution has very little re voting rights, it left that to the states, but what it DOES say right up front in Article 2 is: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
Clearly, as bad as this idea sounds to modern society of all major political parties in the US, back then it was one man one representation unless you are colored, free loading Indians, etc - then it's just 3/5th of you.
Good thing the Republican party,founded by anti-slavery activists, led the way with like minded people on both parties to free the slaves.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 426380]Because they need US.
Where are You, On Romney's Planet? GOPLASHIT. Where is That?
Sorry, I am late to reply, so much Republican Bull Shit Going On, it is tough to keep up with It, let alone the Fucking Lies, with NO PROOF.
READ Rowney's BOOK,"No Apologies" Read the Reviews!
ALL the Countries He Mentioned in his B00K, they are No Facts, just Lies. No, Just Cold War Make Believes. Romney main opponent is Russian.
He is Stuck in the Long Ago, Cold War Past.
Romney Said No Apologizes will given by Him.
All of Obama's speeches were checked. Not One Apology to any Country that he mentioned his Bull Shit Book were made.
I feel sorry for you wanting a new leader, but come on, not TWO MORE, Sarah Palin Dumb Shits, they will not MAKE A New COUNTRY.
I REALLY FEEL YOUR PAIN!
Our Country Needs You, Not A Bought and Paid for Government.
What the Constitution Wanted Was "One Man One Vote".
It did not say Company Operations were People, to Be Bought For, by the Rich Men or Women and their Corporations," but was approved by the Supreme Court in The Super-Pac Ruling. I Wish I had the under the table money they got for that Vote.
Gee, it does not sound Fishy to me and I guess to You.
SELL OUR COUNTRY TO THE RICH?
Tell us where it is said the Boss's were it charge?
"Lincoln Said NO More Slaves."
SOME OF YOU ARE SLAVES TO MONEY![/QUOTE]
It is Okay for Rush Limbaugh to Rant and Rave with his Lies, but not me with The Truth.
I'm Hurt.
[QUOTE=Mpexy; 426382]Worldtravel69.
After reading your last dozen political rants without comment, it appears everything you are upset about and constantly spam-spew on the board can be much more easily and concisely written. May I suggest you just merely copy paste this so at least we all can scroll less?
'random rant re: [insert topic here]
-Everything I say is right.
-Everything the other side says is wrong and has no proof even when credentialed sources provides facts."Facts" from the other side are lies, lies from my side are clearly always "facts"
-I actually have no proof that my side has any better "proof", or proof that the other side has no proof, but that's ok, my opinion just routes back to logic line #1.
-if you disagree with me, you must be evil, a traitor, or clearly a no-proof other side guy and hence, automatically I am right. '
And p. S. As often as it is referenced the original Constitution is an amazingly concise document. Easily downloaded, easily read / searched. I suggest you do so.
The Constituion did NOT want one man one vote. In fact, the Constitution has very little re voting rights, it left that to the states, but what it DOES say right up front in Article 2 is: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
Clearly, as bad as this idea sounds to modern society of all major political parties in the US, back then it was one man one representation unless you are colored, free loading Indians, etc. Then it's just 3/5th of you.
Good thing the Republican party, founded by anti-slavery activists, led the way with like minded people on both parties to free the slaves.[/QUOTE]