Black

[QUOTE=Exon123]Well it won't be me, I charge considerably more that $300, with No Completeo or BBBJ.

Exon.

CockSucker[/QUOTE]What are you doing on here? Don't you have a trout to abuse or something? I thought the coast was clear to insult you behind your back!

So I guess what you all are saying is that Blacks is over priced and to have 1 beer is ok. But stick to the other clubs?

I hear all the girls in London look like Exon. OMG. Id leave the country.

JK.

All the best. I will be on my way March 12. First timer.

Any tips appreciated.

Regards.

Alex

[QUOTE=Hunt99]It's possible I may be in London on business soon, and yesterday I was doing some looking around to see what might be available in the P4P area. 300 dollars will get me an hour with a hooker that looks like Exon. Brrrrrr.[/QUOTE]The escort services will charge way more than that. But go to some of the places that are advertised on flyers in phone booths all around town. They are usually apartments with a few chicas, some hot hidden gems, often from E or even S Europe. I banged a nice Italian one close to the Gloucester Road tube station for £100 which ain't bad considering London prices. It was a good session/apt, I was pleasantly surprised.

Hello All,

Have we all lost our minds? You are trying to compare some 100 eruo Ho to what is available in BA. Lets get real for a second! Although I have been mostly quiet on this board, I just can't let this pass! I have mongered all over the us and europe the past 5 years. Lets set the record straight! In nevada, you can have a porn star experience for 250 US if you are smart! In europe, the same is true. However, in BA I can get a threesome (PSE w / toys) TWICE for this price! I have already set up two such appointments for my upcoming trip (350 pesos all in for two PSE Ho's) to BA, have we all have gone mad? Furhermore, the latin women are absolutely totally HOT! If you just email a few pro's and follow the advice on this board you will not be dissapointed in BA! This will be my fourth trip to Ba in the last year and though I should have posted most of my experiences, I have NOT. I will begin on my next trip. I plan to give KG a run for his money for "rookie" of the year award (I already have on my last 10 day trip but let my shyness get the beter of me - no posts) This forumn is GREAT and I have used many posts to set up my upcoming encounters (many thanks to BadBoy. Your posts absolutely ROCK!). Enough said. But please! Lets be real! Europe vs BA. No competiton. Ar Ho's Rock. Period. My two cents. Toymann

Just to make one thing clear: I was just talking about quality of girls in Black, and, as I said, that I'm giving up on the place. I'm not giving up on BA. Every time I come here I meet some unbelievable girls that for very little money provide service far beyond anything I know how to find in the US or Europe. Just this last trip I have met two girls that have completely blown my mind. They practially move in and I pay them very very little. In addition, BA is fantastic city. None of the the other good mongering places in the world can compare to BA. So it's a prefect combination.

[QUOTE]I hear all the girls in London look like Exon. OMG. I'd leave the country.

Alex[/QUOTE]When guys on the board ask where all the 9s and 10s have gone, try LONDON. Agency's have many Argentinian girls on their books charging from £250 upwards an hour.

You have to go where you can earn the dough!

FH

[QUOTE=Toymann]Have we all lost our minds? You are trying to compare some 100 eruo Ho to what is available in BA.[/QUOTE]It was only pointed out that there is at least some decent p4p available in London at reasonable prices for London if one happens to be stuck in London. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the BsAs scene.

Wednesday a week ago I went to Black after wasting a half hour at Salome. I had heard much about Black's and wanted to see it for myself. I arrived there about 12:45 am and it was loaded with lot's of chicas. Some very hot, some just ok. I think the chicas at Madaho's may be better looking, but it's very close. I was walking in by myself when I overheard two guys speaking in english. What great luck I thought, so I asked them if they are from the USA, they said yes, so we hung out for the next hour. The thing that struck me about Black was how all the chicas were staring us down. I said to one of the guys, I now know what it feels like to be hot chick in a bar in the States, with every guy staring at you, except here all the chicas are staring at us. These guys were on business for 3 days and each night they had come down to Black's and left with a girl. We started talking about chica experiences and told them about ArgentinaPrivate which they had never heard off.

Anyway on to the girl. One of the guys had his girl for the night hanging with him and he mentioned that she had a friend across the bar. The "friend" had walked by me earlier and she was petite and small and very attractive, which is my type. So I walked closer to where she was hanging with 4 other chicas and motioned her over to me. She came over and I immediately asked if she would be interested for 300 pesos for a hour. She hardly spoke any english and I speak very little spanish. She wanted me to buy her a drink first and I said no that I wanted her to agree to a price. I let this conversation go for about 30 seconds and then I said ciao and left her and went back to were my "new friends" were standing. Within 2 minutes she came over to me with another chica who could speak more english and this girls said 300 was ok. It is amazing how the price drops as the night progresses (It's now 2am)

I have to thank you guys on this forum for teaching me some very good negotiating tactics. Thanks!

Monica must be about 21 - 22, very young looking and she is from Paraquay. I had heard good things about Paraquaian (sic) girls so I was very interested. She is about 4' 11'' and dark hair and eyes, about c cups that are totally natural. I found her to be more attractive than Priscilla which I talked about in my other review. She has a scar on her right cheek. Monica is like the girl next door but extremely petite and extremely cute with a nice set of tits. Perfect! Anyway her friend who was really looking out for her asked me if I was solo. She asked this because I told Monica I wanted to take back to my apartment and I guess they didn't want me taking back for a gang bang or something. That shit must happen a lot! Yea I told her I was solo. So we are getting comfortable while she is nursing her drink and I finally convinced her to leave with me. So far, 50 peso entry fee, and 80 peso chica drink.

As we are leaving Black she tells me to tip the guy who is following us out the door. His job is to get us a taxi. Is this normal? I open my wallet and I have one "dos peso" note and three "cien peso" notes. Oh Shit! I showed the guy what I had and he said no problem and closed the taxi door for us.

Now I'm thinking how am I going to pay this damn taxi driver. I have heard ripoff stories about these taxi drivers. So I stupidly ask Monica if she has change and of course she doesn't. As we are driving back to my apartment I notice the fricking driver never turned on his clock. Fuck! That is one of their tricks. So I complain and to him and he pretends that either he can't understand me or that the clock is broken. I don't know what the fuck he is saying. I have got to learn Spanish! It's now 2:45am so I decide to not get into a huge argument with the guy. We get to my apartment on Baez street and ask him how much and he says 20 pesos which I know is too high. It should have been 12-14 pesos. After some bickering between him and me I hand him my cien note and he hands me back 80 pesos in change. I figure fuck it, it's only 6-8 pesos that he is screwing me out of. I'm pretty sure the change was not counterfit which was my other concern.

Monica and I go up to my apartment and I notice she is almost looking around, almost like to see if there is anyone else there. After she realizes it's just her and me she relaxes and I get us something to drink. She then reiterates that she is only staying for one hour.

This girl was a total GFE, we were making out look school kids. It was great. So we go upstairs to the bed and she goes into the bathroom to get ready and she comes out with one of the big towels and proceeds to stand on the bed and do a strip tease for me with the towel. When that towel came off I new I had hit the jackpot with this chica. She had the most adorable petite body, with beautiful natural c-cup tits and a nice ass and kitty and the softest skin. Wow!

She starts kissing and licking my dick and rubbing it all over her tits. She was not a seasoned pro but more like an amature who had just started as a working girl. She told me she had been at black's for 6 months and working girl for a year. Then she put on the condom with hands and mouth and started the blow job. It was not the best I ever had but I would give her and A for effort. She then jumped on top and started banging me. Within 5 minutes she started moaning like she was having an orgasm. Except that I thought, at the time, that she was overdoing this "fake orgasm" moaning. Well I wasn't finished, so we went to missionary then doggie and then my favorite position (her laying face down and me on top) We did that for quite a while until I was sweating and I finally came. The next thing she did surprised me, right after I finished while her face was still in the pillows she raised her left arm up and pointed up two fingers. She was announcing her second orgasm. It was then that I realized the first orgasm was real. Pretty cool I thought!

Well we had such a good time cuddling and talking that she hung out until 5am. We didn't go for a round two only because I was spent. She ended up staying for 2 hours not just the one. She had a fantastic romantic attitude that turned out to be exactly what I was looking for that night.

She gave me two different phone numbers to call her with, but when I tried two times to call them, I heard some spanish recording which I didn't understand. Damn, I really wanted to see Monica for a second round, but it never happend.

If you are interested I can PM her numbers to you. I'm really pissed that I forgot to take her picture.

This little girl was a real gem. She made me feel 21 all over again. This was the only girl on the whole trip that made me feel that way and I saw some hotties.

Well played, Wayne. Your post demonstrates precisely how a new guy can enjoy himself at this club, if only he does a little homework first. I have frankly grown tired of the many posts in which poster which complain about asking prices, but fail to respond accordingly. Your experience is a road map which they should follow.

One tip your post also highlights - keep breaking 100 peso notes, and keep a large supply of small bills available all the time. They'll be necessary for taxis, tips, small purchases, etc.

Shit that Cocksuker has never even been here.

What you need to do is always be breaking those hundreds into smaller bills, you need them for Taxis, tips and other small purchases, etc.

Oh by the way, great job with the girl, shows what a sharp negotiator can do when supplied with good info.

I've had the same problem with Taxi drivers, I ask them to turn on the meter and if they don't I give them two pesos.

It is truely unreal what these taxi drivers do. Most of them are scam artists.

I speak english and spanish and when I go into speaking spanish they treat me diffrently than when I speak their language. Once again the people are very dishonest.

Good posts WayneWill thanks for the updates. Now Exon can call me cheap. Blacks was 50+80, taxi and pussy was 320 for total of 450pesos for about 2 hours if I understand you correctly. You had the girl in bed starting at around 3 am. Call me stupid but you can avoid the smoke atmosphere and fuck your brains out at 1707 Santa Fe for about 100 pesos at normal hours. Has anybody fucked Exon yet? Was he worth 300+?

But not worth 300 P for sure, 60 or 80 maybe.

Went here last night with a fellow monger. We arrived around 02:45 and there was a lot of beautiful talent available.

But the place was emptying fast. At 03:30 the place was empty. The men had left and the chicas had left and with them the girls I wanted.

So I talked to a petit girl with short black hair named Loudres and the kind of body I like. Nice firm petit ass and nice set of tetas, but she had bad breath. She was eager for me to buy her a drink but I refused and wanted to finish negotiations first.

She quoted med US$ 300 and I actually made her repeat to be sure about the quote. I told her no way and offered her AR 300. She just turned around and left.

Is any girl worth that kind of money? I think not in this country.

I was in Black with my friend Moe last trip.

Since I knew the door man "Heckor" admission was free, (though I did give him a 5 peso tip apon leaving) We spent nothing while we were in their approx 45 minutes reviewing Chica's. Monger drinks are $40 peso's.

Moe, possibly the cheapest Monger I've ever met, (and hornyest too) spoted a beautiful blond girl about 30 and was quoted $300 USD, (I'd of paid it in a second up here in sex prison) That number quickly changed to $300 peso's when Moe explained in Spanish that he was "Not" a tourist and owned an apartment in Buenos Aires.

She would not move on price and wanted us to buy her an $80 peso drink. Moe, "cheap skate fuck" that he is said no, and asked for her phone number.

Well to make the long story short, Moe called her durning the day sometime afterwards and now the price is $200 peso's. And has committed to Fuck for $200 peso's. Thats $66 dollars compared too $300 USD.

Thats the way you negoicate in the High End Clubs in Recoleta.

Exon

My problem of course is that I do not have Moe's striking good looks, big Congreso apartment and fleet of limousines in combination with fluent Spanish and the company of handsome eloquent American mongers like Exon.

Gentleman I am returning to BA in a few weeks and was wondering if the pricing is still the same at Black. I remember before that most girls wanted $200 US to leave with you. Is that still the case or is the post below true and the girls are now asking for $300? Will most everyone leave for $200? Before I get yelled at I know that others get better than $200 but that is what I pay with my level of spanish.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Lego Maniac]Gentleman I am returning to BA in a few weeks and was wondering if the pricing is still the same at Black. I remember before that most girls wanted $200 US to leave with you. Is that still the case or is the post below true and the girls are now asking for $300? Will most everyone leave for $200? Before I get yelled at I know that others get better than $200 but that is what I pay with my level of spanish.

Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]They will quote what they think they can get, and will settle for what you can negotiate. One tip: go armed with a pen and a note pad, and get the names and mobile numbers of chicas which suit your fancy. You will be able to get a large number of them to meet you for a daytime fuck at a fraction of the U$S200 rate you mention. Exon recently mentioned a strategy which is my usual modus operandi in these places too - I tend to do my drilling during the day, and use my evenings at these places as scouting expeditions.

Except when they work together in a boliche.

I kept Thursday night for my annual visit to Black. I met my girl Karen last year. From a distant I realised she is somewhat different. She became very confident. Last year I got her in her first few days of work. Now she knows how to work the rope. Actually, she looked the best in the boliche today. She gave me a kiss and wanted to give me discount as a former customer. 300 Peso for one hour. She became a 200 USD girl. I paid her 300 Peso for a 12 hour TLN last year. It was too much for me to swallow. I gave her a kiss and said goodbye. If anybody deserves 200 USD (not in my book) she was the only girl in the boliche could ask for it!

Danny was surprised. He was wondering whether some kind convention going on. Too many of us from the USA are at the boliche tonight. I was nursing my drink. Then met a couple of Brazillians. One of them, from the northern part of Brazil, was very sweet. I started coversing her with my portugese to break the ice. Things were going very well. She was willing to go for 300 Peso for 2 hours. We were about to order the drink. Then her idiot roommate / friend, ruined everything. She was forcing her to make me take both of them. I said no way! I quickly left. She had a helpless look on her face. Go room with a dyke!

I was furious. Stopped by Newport. Broke all ethicks of value. Took the Brazillera Canmilla and fucked my heart out!

Bandy

First time in Buenos Aires, and decided to stop by Black based on a suggestion from an old friend. The atmosphere was good, nice dancers and music. That's about where it stops.

Perhaps because several of the alternative places were closed because of some holiday, not quite sure what. Something about some election I think. But, I was quoted by three different girls (the best looking ones) that they wanted 300USD to go back to my apartment. Based off of browswing on this site yesterday before I went out, that place seems way out of line. My Spanish is limited, so it was difficult to negociate.

I finally met one girl who was 'average', definitely not as good looking as some previous girlfriends I have had in the past, and she began with 600Pesos, and I settled for 400Pesos, which I thought at that point was a fairly large change in price considering the first 3 girls want 300USD /1000Pesos.

The girl came back to my apartment which she stated that she would normally never do, and then she asked for the money up front, again not too big of a deal to me. After perhaps an hour long of decent / not great sex, she rushed off to the bathroom, and returned to the bedroom fully dressed and stated that she had to get going. Her additude that I thought was much better than the rest of the girl's at the club, disapeared as soon as the first session was over. I had assumed that 400 pesos would mean 3-4 good sessions over 6 hours. In my very limited Spanish I asked her what she was doing, and stated something along the lines that she what I gave her was not much and that she would need more to stay the whole night.

All in all, I am not used to the language barrier, and also as my first time in Buenos Aires, I was somewhat dissapointed.

I went to Black for the sole purpose of being able to walk around a bit, meet several girls, see who I liked, take her home, and then if I liked her, stick with her as my regular go-to girl, including dinner dates and so forth.

Was I robbed? Is this the normal additude in Black? Can any of you offer any suggestions for meeting a good go-to girl, no additude who enjoys dinner dates, spending over than 45 minutes before stating some lame excuse as to why she has to run off to go somewhere.

I will not return to Black that is for sure.

[QUOTE=Charlie1983]The girl came back to my apartment which she stated that she would normally never do, and then she asked for the money up front, again not too big of a deal to me. [/QUOTE]Hi Charlie,

Every guy (who has mongered) reading your report as soon as they read the above part new the ending.

I'll wager a guess that it's stated a 100 times in all the treads, Don't pay before the deed, if they insist just open your door and say goodbye, many more fish in the sea.

Charlie1983,

I know what you are after and I don't think you can force it to happen if they do not want it to happen, I. E. Go to girl. While some may say negotiate every detail before you leave to your place, that might be asking for a pretty steep tab like filling your shopping cart, then when you get home you find it is half empty.

My approach, with no science behind it, is based on my preference for all nighters, but only if the chemistry is right. So I tend to make a deal with the ones I seem to get along with, let them know they can stay if they want to, (si quieres) Mention it again after the deed, at their election. Some simply cannot with babysitters, can't sleep except in their own bed, etc. Some just are not into it. I pay well, (read excessive to some, average for others) but I have never payed or been asked for more when they stay longer. Oh, also knowing the club hr / drink rules to make sure they do not have to go back or get a drink fine.

Btm line, mostly all nighters, some longer then I want as I have other things to do, and these girls know how to sleep when they get comfortable.

Now a little help please. Went to Black about a month ago showing a newbie. Very pretty Peruvian came up and I got her number then lost it, name like Cristina I think. I think she spoke some english also. Anyone with experience or know her number? I would desperatly not want to pull her out of Black because I can't afford the drinks and general cost structure for an all nighter.

MAG

Stopped in to Black the other day with an amigo. Place was half full at 11:30pm and close to 3/4 full by 12:30am. Maybe 60 girls and 40 guys. Girls generally in the 7-9 range with a few real hotties and a few milfs for variety. High percentage of big chests here relative to other clubs. I don't mind that. As usual lots of eye contact being exchanged.

Chatted with a couple girls briefly. Saw a hottie dancing seductively 10 feet away and giving me the eye. I motioned her over and we chatted some. Her name was Adriana. About 5'3, light brown / dirty blond straight hair, impressive DD (implants but soft) slim waist. Maybe mid-twenties. I think she's portena. An 8.5 for me. Bought her a 80p drink. Chatted some more then began negotiations. I started by telling her my limit was 400p and she laughed a little. She explained her usual price was 600p. I held firm. After a couple minutes she accepted the 400p. For about 90min. I was quite pleased I got this deal on my first try. However - she then added I would have to buy a second drink at 80p. Totally caught me off guard. Never heard of this before. She said it was the rules. I excused myself for a minute and went to do a bit of research. One hostess confirmed it was the rule, a couple of other people I got some fuzzy answers from. Came back and told Adriana OK. My amigo also struck the exact same deal with another girl (400p plus 2 drinks 80p / ea) Adriana and I were soon off to my hotel.

Adriana has a hot slim body and is very service oriented in a good way. Accomodated all my requests. Light kissing. I asked her what she likes and she would only respond it's what I like. Danced and stripped to a few songs for me, making sure I was at full attention as my clothes also came off. Serviced me with various requests, then fucked in several positions. To finish I lay back on a chair while she knelt in front and slowly tittyfucked me with her breasts, up and down. After 5-10 minutes I let loose with two powerful shots which, without going into too much detail, were very messy for me and the furniture. Incredible. She stayed about 1h20. This was more a 'hottie rocks my world' session than GFE. I would highly recommend this girl.

If anyone has any intel on the chica drink policies in Black, please post. Did I get hit for 2 drinks because the negotiated time was more than the standard hour? I heard the girls get 50% of each drink. One male staff member said the number of drinks depends on your negotiating skills. He mentioned there's a 120p drink and a 160p drink also. I hope the reason in my case is because of the 90min, and that this doesn't apply for strictly 1-hour sessions.

I do not believe there is a 2-drink rule; I have never bought more than one drink for a girl, though perhaps the rules have changed.

More likely, she made you buy her a second drink because you got her down to 400 pesos. By Black standards, you still actually did quite well.

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Of course, if you go to a staff member and ask him or her if there is a rule that you have to buy a girl two drinks, it's pretty obvious you've just been told that by a girl, and there may be reluctance on the part of the staff member to contradict that (or, in general, discourage you from buying more drinks).

Went by Black this evening and the ratio was really bad, more dicks than chicks. The two I talked to were asking US$200 each for one hour. Sat down at the bar and noticed the girl next to me but did not start up a conversation for about 30 minutes and she never attempted to either, just smiled when I looked her way.

Pretty attractive blond with long hair very fair and a C rack. Valeria and I chatted for a while and she was not pushy about asking for a drink, when we got down to numbers she started with the same US$200 for an hour. Switched the currency to Pesos and started over. Got to $400 for two hours and the bar fine was only one drink at midnight.

Took her back to the apartment and it was a great natural C rack. Started at the door, moved to the couch, the floor finally got to the bed after an hour. Covered BJ, vocal, multiple positions, did not ask for cola since she got all I had before I could get there. After 2 1/2 hours she changed shoes, put on street cloths, left her number caught a taxi and went home not back to the club.

Tried to get photos but she did not want any. Would repeat. Probably got the lower price since it was Sunday, if you can consider $400 low. No problem on the single drink either. All in all not a bad ride at all.

I would suggest Madahos regulars give Black another try. With the rising prices at Madahos, Black is looking more and more attractive to me. There are more girls, less guys and the prices, if you can believe it are becoming cheaper than Madahos. The quality of the girls is also alot better. Much more 8's in here and the majority are solid 7.5's.

Entrance remains the same at 40 pesos and is cheaper than Madahos,

Chica drink prices are the same at 80 pesos.

The main difference is at Madahos, girls will try to charge you 600 pesos for an hour and if you want a TLN you have to pay the club 3 drinks on top of what you pay the girl. Black is much more practical. The girls don't have to come back, You pick up a young honey at 1 am, you pay for one drink. And if you pay the 600 AR, you keep her all night or until at least 5-6 in the morning. And the girls aren't pressured to return to the club.

The only thing that is somewhat unsettling to me is, since the girls can't just walk up and talk to you, you end up feeling like a piece of meat with all the girls staring at you like their only meal ticket.

Have fun,

Bad

Rock on, Bad. I like Black!

Both Jackson and Bad Boy say Blacks is back in the running.

OK, it's time to go and see for myself. I went Friday night, Saturday morning 2am. I have not slept 4 hours in the last 36 hours--too pooped to pop. This was a scouting trip.

I was very surprised: Luis at the door let me in without the cover. I told him that I had not been to Blacks in 4 years, I was there because Jackson told me to look inside.

There is a higher concentration of 8's + than the other clubs. After a 20 minute walk around, I selected a solid 9 in my book, just to talk and get info--too pooped to pop. I was seriously over tired--having trouble in english much less spanish. The young lady was charming and thought my too tired routine was my form negotiating--she went from 600 pesos to 400 peso for 2 hours. When I still was not ready to leave with her-- At 3:30am I heard 300 pesos for one hour of message with a bbbj relax and she wanted me to have her cel number for another day when I had more energy.

Blacks' chicas are becoming more flexible. This woman was very. Very. Very hot looking. 5'5", 115, c breasts, tight curvey body with a cover girl face--an "A" girl anywhere in the world. There just were not enough guys spending money and too many girls asking for US$200. The laws of supply and demand eventually swing into action. Everyone of the chicas is asking us$200 and not enough guys are paying the asking price. The results of this scouting mission:

Hot desireable girls for 400 pesos for 2 hours with 50 pesos
Cover and 80 peso drink.

Under the current house policies at the two other recoleta high end clubs--if the chica is not back in 90 minutes, a second drink fee kicks in that either the customer or the chica pays. The Blacks pricing in many situations is the same or, for longer sessions, cheaper than the competition. Blacks is back in the game. .....no three drinks for all night .

Who has the better looking chicas? That's like arguing over the best flavor of ice cream. There are gems available elsewhere for 150 to 200 pesos if you look. The best looking chicas are not always the best providers and blah, blah, blah. This posting is about the competition between three high end clubs that market glamor and illusion, not necessarily the best erotic experience. In my mind:

BLACKS IN BACK IN THE RUNNING. THE OWNERS AT LAS LOPEZ AND MADAHOS HAVE HIT THE TOP PRICING IN THEIR MARKET WITH THE CLUBS' ADD-ON FEES. [See my posting on a 700 peso experiece at las lopez] BLACKS HAS NOT AND CURRENTLY MAY OFFER EQUAL OR BETTER VALUE. I am not going to argue that one flavor of ice cream is better than another. With any luck, I'll have hours of fun with my Blacks fantasy girl for 300 pesos within a few days. Blacks will sell me more 80 pesos glasses of orange juice for the opportunity to feast on the illusion of glamor. I will make a few less visits to madahos and las lopez[Bobby, your add on fees are just too high]

Miami Bob

ps BB, please contact me

I visited Black on Thursday night. There are several girls at Blacks that deserve a 7 or 8 in my book. I don't' think there were any 9's. The place is very upbeat and it could be fun to hang out here, but I don't believe the girls here are worth the asking price of 600 pesos for one hour, plus the 2 beers at 80 pesos each.

If you take into account the 40 peso entrance and drink fees that you end up paying about 800 pesos for one hour with an 8 looking chica. That amount translates to about US$ 270. I think that it is absurd, if I am flying all the way to B. Aires, and paying $270 per hour for a chica.

I am a resonably high payer. I negotiated with a girl in Black and she started with 900 pesos, I start thinking in my head that with this starting price attitude why she don't just ask $900.

I mean that is a ridiculous starting point. I negotiate her down to 500 pesos, and I ask her if she will do 2 hours or more for that price. The girl's attitude was more or less hour and a half, and I have to buy 2 drink at 80 pesos, plus 500 pesos for her. At this point in time I am just pissed off and completely turned of with this girls attitude I just tell tell her that I will think about it and let her go.

I looked at my watch and it's about 3:30 am. I decided that there is no sense negotiating any more just decided to go to the Cocodrillos. As soon as I leave the bar, this girl that I was negotiating with also leaves the club without any guy with her. The attitude is that leave home alone without any money, but not be nice about the negotiations.

On the other hand my friend Marco Chileno left with a 7 looking girl for 450 pesos *2 hours* plus two drinks. He had a good time that night but agreed with me next day that Buenos Aires clubs like Black and Madahos have priced themselves out of the market.

On a side note I think there is alot of inflation in Buenos Aires right now and the peso will eventually have to go down back to 4 pesos to a dollar, for Buenos Aires to be competitive in almost all traits. The above note can be argued separately, but I know my Economics and that is just my analysis and that conclusion is made not only Chica prices but including food prices, property prices, and several other day to day expenses.

Regards,

John.

You hit the wrong girl. Don't give-up!

Last night I thought that I hit the right girl. She showed up today. Well over 30 in day light, but still got my hormones pumping. I'll change the rating from 9 to 7.5+ because she still is beautiful and has[ to me] a perfect body which I only got to start exploring. She wants to go on the internet and pick-out a girl to join us and she'll extend from 2 to 4 hours for the same price---please, please! Sounds interesting.

WE pull-up a website. And then. I want to be paid first.

I put the money out under an ashtray so she could see it clearly and know it is all there. I say, " after my love. I'm putting the money where you can see it. It will be yours. We are going to become good friends. Blah, blah, blah." She threatens to leave. I ask if there is a compromise possible. She says NO and puts her clothes back on and I walk her to the front door. So much for my Blacks fantacy of glamor. And erotic bliss.

No problem. One phone call later, my old friend the blow job queen is free tonight for us$150 pesos per hora /300 for all night. She is a shure thing and no body would throw this girl out of bed once she learns what blows the top off of your head---she has a god given talent---now I'm not quite sure why I spent 150 pesos last night to be entertained for 1:45 minutes and obtain a useless telephone number.

Call me crazy, I'll be buying another 80peso orange juice at blacks within a few days. Always the optimist! ---In search of glamor and fantacy at the high end clubs.

Bob

I stumbled into Black at about 3am on Thursday. There were about 30 chica's working, and maybe 2 or 3 that I was interested in. After careful inspection (I. E. Using my flashlight so I could actually see them;) the place is dark! I selected a girl and started negotiating. She started out at 600 pesos and I quickly countered with 400 (I was feeling generous at that hour) she countered back with 500, I said 400 was as much as I would pay. I had already bought her a drink thinking with my great negotiating skills that 400 would be no problema and we'd get the hell out quickly. Well apparently my negotiating skills are not as good as I thought:(oh well.

To make a long story short, I left Black (no chica in hand) and went back to El Alamo and hooked up with this Paraguayan girl (7 face 9 body and loud! Had a TNL for 200 pesos. I'll post more about her in another thread.

All in all I like Black. I think the staff is friendly and it has a pretty good vibe. I wouldn't suggest going in after 3am though (at least on Thursday night)

I'm still undecided about going back.

Cheers!

Dude, stoked you did not pay marginal black chicas gringo rates.

Keep posting El Alamo conquests!

I usually have a backup plan when I hit the clubs in the evening. If I don't see something I like in the first club and / or I can't negotiate a reasonable rate, I leave. The second club is one I can usually count on.

For Black, I ALWAYS have a backup plan. I don't expect to pull someone out. I go in with an open mind and 'see what happens'. Quality is generally not the issue here, rather price. I'm prepared to move on if I can't negotiate a reasonable price.

I always leave Black in a good mood, because either:

(a) I got a deal I was happy with, or,

(b) I leave knowing I contributed (even in a very small way) to price control and sending the message that there are guys who are just not going to pay inflated prices.

I usually buy the girl a drink first before I negotiate. If we can't agree on price she wasted a half hour or more with me. Unless the girl is my ultimate fantasy girl, I have no problem walking away from the failed deal. I'll find something good at another club. And I get a small satisfaction from having sent her a message (and any girls nearby who may have witnessed the failed deal) that her price is too high.

Up until last year I never paid more than 300p at Black. This year was the first I paid 400p which is my new current acceptable price point here.

I met a Chica that works in Black at a swim party.

She wanted $120 peso's to go upstairs and get it on for an hour.

We ended up sharing a taxi back to town and she told me that once she set foot in Black her price was $400 peso's.

My suggestion is that you get her phone number for the $80 peso drink.

And either call her yourself or have Roxana do it for you.

Exon

"Always have a backup plan."

I second that. Go check it out and be prepared to leave alone and go somewhere else. Have fun in Black.

I spent about 1:30 at Blacks: 2:00-3:30. No desirable chicas would go for less than 500 pesos. This place still has glamor and beauty, but this boy is not paying 500pesos plus 80pesos for the chica drink for 90 minutes with a stranger when I am tired and have to get up the next morning.

Tomorrow afternoon I'll have three hours of bliss with a beautiful newbie who has intense orgasms and doesn't realize just how beautiful she is. She'll be happy with 200 pesos and likely inspire a good tip with great service. Life is good even if I have to live without the illusion of glamor and beauty which blacks exudes.

Miami Bob will keep searching for the unattainable at an inflated, but not too outrageous, price. Maybe I'll buy this sweet girl a Blacks' style dress and sexy pumps. Save money and be with someone who really wants to give me pleasure.

Bad Boy, where is the master? BB I am seeking what you have found. Share your hard earned wisdom with your eager students

Monday night--federal holiday time-- at Blacks. The sweet blond over 30 who I have my eye on is not here tonight. I've bought her a drink and almost closed the deal twice. We have some chemistry and she is my preferred target. She has a perfect body and when she smiles my heart skips a beat. She the type of girl that provides a reason for blacks to exist.

I see the other blond who belongs in playboy--she's a waste of time: she starts at us$300 and will not go below us$200 for one hour. I truly believe that she will get up and leave after 59 minutes. She's not a good candidate despite her 9.5 looks. The truth is that I'd almost be willing to pay money to just look at her. Blacks does really have a number of breath taking young ladies.

First new candidate. An 8.0--really elegant and sexy dress. 80 peso drink and after 30 minutes of chat, a little kiss-kiss we get down to particulars as she strokes my inner thigh.

This should work! She would love to share everything I want+. Looking good------now $$. I suggest that let's avoid negotiation and pretend that she asks for us$200 and I discuss 300 pesos and that we compromise on 450 pesos. I have a 500 pesos limit. She looks upset and lets me know that she doesn't do anything for less than 600 pesos. Then she tells me about a recent us$400 todo el noche. I go to 500 pesos and she gets up and leaves.

She just walks away! I get up and follow to whisper in her ear--500 pesos is just for the first 90 minutes--I really want her. She kisses my cheek and says, "No, gracias" I am shocked.

The waitress gets her tip from me and chats me up. She points in the corner and says that the young girls in the far corner will be more flexible. I go look. Three 6-7's 20 years olds--They look like triangle girls. I've wanted the Blacks glamor plus experience, not a triangle girl.

I sit down in the far corner by myself to finish my drink and think about Cattos-- it's about 2:15 and I can still do it. A tall slender blond starts to dance in front of me-shaking a sexy booty in my face. This is worth a drink.

Chemistry and hormones kick in. She's kissing my neck and doing the sell. She is not leaving for less than 600.

OK, I'm a sucker. I need it now. She says 3 hour are just fine, time is not an issue--she likes my skin. She goes for the waitress--lets go now. The waitress she brings over is not my buddy who I usually look for and talk to. The new blond waitress says the chica drink is 120 pesos. Some disagreement ensues. When did the price of the chica drink increase from the 80 pesos I paid for the same champaign that I purchased 45 minutes ago. MY girl tells me to pay at the bar. At the bar they verify 80 pesos is the price. Scams. I'd bet my girl was in on it, but was smart enough to back off when I was not buying. This is cheap hooker click-joint bar stuff. What happened to the glamor and illusion of Blacks? It's really a cheap hooker bar with an exaggerated image it tries to sell. But the upper end girls are the best in terms of looks and image. I am not willing to pay what the want.

She girl is better than average. She knows her job well and is a type that I like. She provides 3 hours of good solid service. She admits that there are many nights that all she does is sell drinks. There is pressure to raise the rates to 600 pesos, she tells me. She tells that the rates are high and that we have good chemistry and will become friends.

She then sits at my laptop to have me send her a mail and gives me her home and cel number. She will be happy to come over for two hours before work for 300 pesos and so will her sister, who also works at Blacks. I guess that we may have some chemistry and she is a solid 7.5 to 8.0 a repeat would be likely, but I have three other girls I know where there is mutual chemistry in full bloom who are happy with 150 to 200 pesos and enjoy my pleasure and I enjoy theirs.

In retrospect, I should have left and gone to Cattos. I might go back again, but only to look for my blond who I was intending to meet when I walked in through the door.

She'll eventually go for 500 pesos and we have great chemistry in the bar or at least she is a better actress. Her face does make my heart skip a beat and this is only thing that Blacks has, if you are willing to pay: some of the most beautiful women in Bs As.

Nice report Bob.