Madahos

[QUOTE=Tiny12]Twelve inches? Hmm.

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_frequency.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]There I am, over on the right side of those charts, in fact, off to the right of the chart of itself. Not many fellows can match my huge cock, apparently.:p

[QUOTE=Tiny12]Twelve inches? Hmm.

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_frequency.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]I had no idea I had such a big Dick.

Exon

Great link tiny,

That looks about right, I wonder where they got that picture of me?

Bad

Mongers,

Made a visit to Madahos last night with Erkinator73 in search of some top notch professional poontang around 2am. The price of admission remains $50AR and chica drinks remain at $80AR. The truth is there are lots of hot girls in this place and they are much younger and fresher looking than Newport, for example. I negotiated a $300 AR price for my buddy Erkinator73 for an 18 year old flaquita from the southern suburbs of Buenos Aires. Afterwards, I wandered around and was able to spot a truly beautiful half Brasilian / half Paraguayan whom I recognized from my office. I approached her and let it be known that I was very interested in her services. She then proceeded to ask me if I knew the "tarifa" at Madahos, to which I responsed $300AR, and she informed me that it was actually $450AR. Naturally I told her I would not pay that and she claimed the owner would "killer her" if she took any less. I walked away and about 5 minutes later she comes up to me and says she only asked for the higher number because another girl was listening and she would be happy to take the $300AR. So off we went to Penguin's apartment for some action.

Erkinator73 and I arrive at Penguin's apartment with the two chicas and immediatly open a bottle of Chandon and start caressing, kissing, and generally molesting the chicas. After about 40 minutes of messing around drinking champagne and watching Penguin's 42 inch wall-mounted plasma tv, I take "Yanina" (not real name) to Penguin's bed and get to business. This girl has a truly amazing body with the finest natural breasts I have ever had to pleasure to get my hands on. She also has a very exotic look, as she was born in Belo Horizonte to a Brasilian father and and a Paraguayan mother. Amazing, skin, hair, and body and with several sessions over the 2 hours of actual action she was well worth the $300AR (which is by FAR the most I have ever paid in Argentina) Good bareback bj but unfortunatly she would not let me penetrate bareback, but I had no problem cumming twice nevertheless using the rubber.

My overall impression of Madahos is that it is expensive, yes, however it overall has the highest bar of chica standard of all the boliches of Buenos Aires. If you pull a chica out later in the night (after 2:30) you can avoid all the multiple chica drinks nonsense and you can get the multiple hour session you want for the same univerally acceptable $300AR price. This was the first time I pulled a chica out of Madahos since November 2005 (see report) and I will not pull one out for probably another 2 years, but I concer that I am very satisfied with the experience on this occaison.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

I've been window shopping there from time to time Dirk and I must agree with you theres some really beautiful women in their.

Its sorta like anything else in life, You get what you pay for. Theres a girl I've met in their that quoted me $600 peso's and I'm actually thinking about it. Gorgeous MotherFucker and the memory of the experience might be worth $200 bucks.

Exon

Ex! Are you under the influence of some sort of mind bending drug? Has it been far too long since you have dipped your fly-line? Anymore posts like this and I may start to confuse you with BAD! We'll discuss this and other more important issues (ie. 8 wt fully bent) in early November Cocksucker! Happy Mongering. T

Went by Saturday night mostly to sight see as the prices seem a bit high for my taste. The place was full of quality chicas. One told me they had over a hundred girls working that night. Not sure if there were quite that many, but easily 60-80. They all started with $200 US and I couldn't get any below $400 pesos for an hour. After two 50 peso beers this domican chica starts shaking her booty in my face. I've never had a domican, and after Masthopes influence from Cattos I was a little intrigued. She started with $200 US as well, but quickly came down to 300 pesos for and hour and half completo with photos. She is far from the best at Madahos, but price seemed reasonable for this place and she had some great moves. So after a drink for both of us we left for my apartment.

After many drinks that night, I required a lot of work to get the job done, but as I said this chica had the moves. Nice big booty, big natural tits, but a little more of a tummy than I saw in the darkness of the bar. I guess the spandex pants probably concealed some as well. The cola was fairly tight and she seemed to enjoy it. Pics to follow later as my internet connection is too slow tonight to upload. I would not repeat at that price, but it was a fun night. I took her at about 2am and she was going back to the club at 3:30am so I guess you have to go later than that if you want to keep them for the night. She quoted 200 pesos in the day, but suspect she could be talked down to 150. PM me for the digits.

Face shot to follow in the private gallery.

I was asked by a couple of friends to show them around town on Monday night. It was their first trip to BsAs and they wanted a some help with translation and to get the "lay of the land" a little before venturing out on their own. After a great dinner, we started at Jazz club, drank one beer and left as quick as possible. We were the only guys and they only had about 6-7 girls, nothing better than a 5 or 6.

I told them we should go to Madahos and off we went. I experienced the sticker shock of entrance fees (sadly, gone are the days or entering free on Jackson's name) and we found a seat. I will say one thing, the dancers in this place are smoking hot. I don't know what the going rate for a date with one of them would cost in total, but all the ones I saw were 9's. There weren't a lot of girls, being Monday and all, but a few cuties. I told my friends to enjoy their drinks slowly, as replacements are 70p each and if they spotted something they wanted to talk to, let me know. One choose a good looking blonde in a smoking hot dress. She came over and I tried to act as a translator. My buddy was interested, so I told her that he would pay 250p (knowing it was a low ball offer) She acted a little offended and said her minimum was 450p, I asked if that was for all night long or until my friend asked her to leave. She said no, only for 1 1/2 to 2 hours. I told her that he didn't want to buy her only rent for a few hours. This got a smile out of her. I told her that he would pay 300p for the 1 1/2 hour session, but no more. She said that 400 was her lowest. I told her he wouldn't pay that, so she walked off. We talked to a couple more and had one girl offer 350p for short time, but my buddies weren't interested.

We left after paying for the second round and went to La Lopez, no cover charge to enter this time, and there weren't more than 20 girls, a couple I remember from Madahos 2-3 years ago. We sat at the bar and talked to a couple of girls. My buddies bought a couple of girls a drink and I thought that for sure something was brewing. It was now about 4 am and I figured they had some barganing power since we were the only guys in the place. I again offered 250p and was told no that 450 was a min. I told her that he would pay 300p for todo la noche and she said she had to do something with her kids the next day and couldn't stay all night. We were pretty tired and they were frustrated so we started to leave (after paying a 300p bar tab for 5 drinks) on the way out I spoke to a real cute gal that looked pretty young. I had seen her dance a little, but my buddy asked me to see if she would leave with him. He was only interested in a longer time, because it was late and he was tired. She agreed to 300p, but only a 1 1/2 hour visit, because she had to go home with her girlfriend. She said she had only been working for a couple of weeks and I believe it.

We decide to leave without and on the way out saw the first two ladies waiting for a taxi, I asked them if they wanted to reconsider and got a "no gracias".

I am continously surprised by the rate of "tang" inflation. I know it is more expensive these days, but a 100% increase in the last two years or so is incredible. I told my freinds to try the triangle clubs last night or Excedra, but don't have a report as of yet.

I know that quality at a resonable price is available, it just looks like it will take a little more work to uncover it. The joy of the search!

Sky

Last time I was there the dancers looked the best. Are they available. How are they best approached? When they took a break they disappeared.

Thanks for the input.

WhiteCat,

I've heard the dancers are sometimes available. But the fees are double or triple the normal fees (both for the girl and for her drink) You can discuss with your waiter about the dancer (s) you are interested in. Tell him you want to take the girl out, not just buy her a drink. You are willing to pay a 'reasonable' fee but no more. Hopefully he will give you correct information. He will speak with the dancer and send her over if she's interested. A 10-20p tip to him would be appropriate. If the fees are too high, you could also ask her for her phone number to hook up another time outside the club.

I've never done this. But in a roundabout way I've had 2 dancers from Madahos over the years. One a few years ago when dancing was banned in the clubs for a few weeks. I picked up a girl in Black who said she was a dancer in Madahos (and had the body to prove it) The other two years ago I took out Giselle who was a regular girl at the time, and then later became a Madahos dancer.

For fun I did some calculations to put the Recoleta price increases in perspective. I've used Madahos price structure as an example. Comments welcome.

2005
Entry- 30p.
Chica Drink- 50p.
Chica- 275p (avg 250-300)
Tip- 20p.
Total- 375p.
(375p)/(2.90p/USD) = $130 USD.

2007
Entry- 50p.
Chica Drink- 80p.
Chica- 375p (avg 350-400)
Tip- 20p.
Total- 525p.
(525p)/(3.10p/USD) = $170 USD.

10 visits to Madahos (or similar Recoleta club)
2005- $1300
2007- $1700
Local Increase = 400/1300 = 30% = 15% annual.
Increase vs Income = 400/3000* = 14% = 7% annual.

* Assumes increase in disposable income of $3000 USD over 2 years.

[QUOTE=Esten]For fun I did some calculations to put the Recoleta price increases in perspective. I've used Madahos price structure as an example. Comments welcome.

2005

(375p)2.90p / USD) = $130 USD.

2007

(525p)3.10p / USD) = $170 USD.[/QUOTE]You have to consider weakness in the dollar as well and its fall relative to other currencies. It's not all necessarily a function of inflation. If you do the same calculations with euro:

October 2005 $130 USD = €108

October 2007 $170 USD = €118

Total Change 9.3% or 4.6% per year. That isn't really all that bad. If you're getting paid in euro it doesn't suck. Real life implications: huge budget deficits in the US have weakened the currency so the Iraq war makes the hotties at Madahos less affordable.

The place was packed with good looking women last night. I was talking to one girl and then I saw a girl I had a crazy 3 some with my last trip. I ended up taking her home.

We had a discussion about the chica drinks. There is no "time limit" Its made up by the girls. Also the "minimum price" is told by the club to be no less than 350 pesos.

This being said if the girl likes you it does not matter.

I paid 300 + drink to get her out and she was here until 11 am.

There is something nice about waking up and having a very hot chica next to you and getting your morning wood taken care of first thing in the morning.

I think another 3 some is in order for another day.

The best upscale boliche club around, better than Blacks. When you envision visiting Buenos Aires for the first time and think of the gorgeous women, your thinking about this place. But the best comes with a price. 60p entrance includes a drink. Chica drinks are 100p. Take out, average about 400p 1 1/2 hrs, but after intense negotiations. If your really lucky, maybe 300p 1 1/2 hrs. Last time I was here 5 months ago, chicas were readily available for 300p take out, some even 250p, now its much harder. But the overall ambience is upscale and polished with the shows. Its a very cool place to hang out.

Dos Luna

You get what you pay for with atmosphere. The girls are better looking than most, but it is still luck and a little skill to have a good first experience with a new girl. My most recent madahos special was 400 pesos, she stayed a few hours.

She was beautiful--9.0 to 9.5--face, body--the works. I chatted her up for at least 30 minutes and had good vibs, but in the apartment----the discussion about the promised bbbj poisoned the rest of the experience. Then she decided that although dfk was ok at the club, it was not promised in the apartment. You get the drift.

Some of my best experiences have been at the recoleta high end clubs and lots of mediocre wastes of leche--at 55
I only have so much leche per week.

My recent week in ba lead to 6 encounters. The two worst were the most expensive--blacks and madahos.

I agree with your comment on the atmosphere - Madahos is excellent in that regard. So too is Black. Things have changed alot. Previously the clubs did not have good dancers, the atmosphere was not great, and quite frankly, the main objective was to grab a girl and get out as quick as possible. On the other hand, the quality of chica was extremely high and the prices were not as insulting as they are today. Consistent with the inconsistency of Argentina, the more girls there are in a club, the higher the prices and the lower the quality of service (it should be the opposite)

These days, with Black and Madahos, unless you know a girl from a previous encounter, it is just too risky taking out a chica. Besides, look at what is available on the internet and the pricing, then compare it to a night in Madahos or Blacks. Supreme sex experiences from Area Vip range from 300 to 400, and there is no risk of poor performance as most of the chicas are known entities. Platynum and Baires? Well, from 100 to 300, and you get a guaranteed good time. Compare that with the Russian Roulette of Madahos and Black.

Anyway, this year I made a good few visits to both of these clubs. I NEVER enter with a "must leave with a chica" attitude. I always have in my pocket phone numbers of internet girls who work during the night (Baires Girls has a list of Saturday, Sunday, Feriado and all night girls) On 3 occasions this year I took girls out of Madahos, I already knew 1 of them, and paid them 250, 300 and 350 pesos. In fact, one of them was an all nighter as it suited her not to travel home.

During the year I took 4 girls out of Black for 400, 450, 350 and 500 pesos. I knew two of these girls from before, and each time I went in after 2.30 on a Saturday night.

In both clubs, 50 pesos is quite a good deal to sit and watch the dancers - who I think are just awesome (I plan to marry and have children with one of the Blackettes)

On a few occasions, I have gone on to Salome and Cocodrilo. Coco is a great place as some of the Recoleta chicas go there after 4 am, and charge 150 to 200 pesos. Salome, for my money, at 10 pesos a drink, is always worth a drive-by, and the telo used by the chicas there has some excellent rooms (jacuzzis, all around mirrors and sex furniture)

On the new codes of behaviour in the Recoleta clubs: this crap about a chica demanding you buy her a drink before telling you her rate - ciao, go and find another fool. That sort of carry-on belongs outside the strip clubs on Corrientes.

Another thing - the chicas in Madahos are very fond of claiming that the management demand they charge at least 400 pesos, and because of that they cannot go any lower. That is the excuse they throw out. This is a bald and brutal lie. The Madahos management do not care a toss what the girls charge. The thing the management controls rigorously is the time the girl spends with each client (the girl actually signs out)

Finally, last time I was in Black and was negotiating price - the chica said - yo cobro 900 pesos. I replied - vos cobras cuando yo te pago. She thought this was a laugh and I ended up paying 500 pesos. The point of the anecdote is: the price is not what the chica asks for, it is what you agree to pay.

These days, I have fun negotiating price - I view it as foreplay and am extremely diligent in the development of my technique.

Sorry for going on so long. Although I have long read this forum, I don't contribute. But, I was reading some of the Madahos and Black reports and I wanted to contribute my experience. For what it is worth, the Foro Escorts forum has called a boycott on Madahos.

Happy Hunting

Great first post Deebeeay. Welcome to the forum.

Excellent post and everything stated is quite true.

Exon

"the price is not what the chica asks for, it is what you agree to pay."

That should be the base of every monger to consider himself a graduated monger. Unfortunally, that does not happens often. And that's the reason for Madaho took so much prestige among the touristy mongering scene.

In year 2000, Madaho used to be a limousine rental agency. I remember the glasses and the limos inside and the gay-taxi-boys were in the corner of the grave yard along with some travestites. In fact, some travestites moved just two blocks away, close to Pueyrredon a few years ago, and I don't know if they still there, as I'm not into it.

However, Black is an old time classic, and Madaho is the brand new shiny competitor, took a similar place, feeded by the mongering tourism. Guys who want to stay at Recoleta and as you mentioned, overpay and get submitted to these bad-performing girls. YOU ARE the monger, and what happened to "the client has the prerogative"?

I think it's unavoidable the crowd get informed about better places to go, such as mentioned, cocodrilo, or having a list from AV and other sources. But I also think that if you don't have good communication skills and after all, you are traveling for sex, not everyone is able to pay an admission to enter as you did, without the "must leave with a chica" attitude. The thing is, many of the mongers are in town for just a week, or just few days. That makes us understand that overpaying may result, looked by the individual point of view, less expensive than traveling down to BA for entering to the club for just watching and conversation.

I understand that is the key that made possible not only for Madaho, but for other clubs to succeed. And that is also the key that made girls to feel they are in the freeway with secured clients for rise their fees, and not only that, but disrespecting the client. Let me add that that many of the girls, at some point they buy their own lie, (after all, Madaho, and other clubs are the imitation of a normal club, where you buy a nice lady a drink and kindly invite her to leave with you to another place) and they think they are going for a date, the mentality of both girl and client gets confused at some point and (some times) she takes advantage because she confuses a guy who treats her gently and she translates that behavior into weakness. As they can also smell the desperation of a short-mongering visit to Buenos Aires.

Two very interessant post. That opened wide my mind.

MSCE could you translate AV as I don't find it in forum's abbreviations.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kleinberg]Two very interessant post. That opened wide my mind.

MSCE could you translate AV as I don't find it in forum's abbreviations.

Thanks[/QUOTE]AV= Area Vip.

[url]www.area-vip.com.ar[/url]

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3007[/url]

[QUOTE=MCSE]AV= Area Vip.

[url]www.area-vip.com.ar[/url]

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3007[/url][/QUOTE]How dummy am I. Shame on me;)

Reading other posts I realise how ignorant I am of the reality of the business traveler and tourists. These poor devils do not have time to kill and tend to be desperate to score some tail before returning to their own little sex hell. Also, although I have strong reservations about Madahos and Black, they are the only two places I feel comfortable recommending to guys in on a business trip. For all their weaknesses, both are extremely professional establishments. I would not dream of suggesting an out of towner wind his weary way to Cocodrilo.

MCSE - these forums are the world of the client / monger. There is an entirely different world - that of the provider. This came to mind when I read about ". The lies the chicas tell themselves.". There is a world of lies going on between the girls themselves. Especially regarding how much they receive from a client. In other words, the prices are actually inflated by lies. One girl says she receives 400 (when she only received 300) and so it goes on. Next thing there is a price increase. All based on fiction. The story of the newcomer holding his ground on 250 pesos with a Black girl, does not surprise me a bit. I find that 100% credible.

The amound of snobbishness going on amongst the girls is earth shattering. Oddly enough, being a gringo can be an advantage as practically all the girls want to be seen leaving with a gringo. It elevates their status with their colleagues. I guess the trick is work out what it is worth to her to leave with you and not one of the notoriously mean Argentines (you wouldn't believe some of the scams the Argentines pull)

Finally, the chicas also enjoy telling their pals that their client is a "piloto, doctor, abogado". The importance placed on professions and careers is absurd (as it is in the country in general)

I am going to try this myself, but if someone wants to give it a go before me I would be interested in the results.". I am a doctor in town at a medical conference.". Could be interesting as, while they occupy a position of prestige in Argentina, they are in general poorly paid. And for the spanish challenged."medico. Conferencia. Poco dinero. Muy pobre.". I mean, who is going to overcharge and give a bad service to a doctor?

Who knows, if this is a good strategy, might not be a bad idea to invent a monthly medical conference.

Is this wrong?

"piloto, doctor, abogado?"

I said "no," laughing and answered back, "I am in internet porn."

I think she was just as impressed as if I were a "piloto, doctor, abogado."

I think my watch (G-shock) may through them off. It is not fancy just not a type you see a lot here.

One's professional prestige may be something about which the girls talk amongst themselves, but revealing such information (which admittedly I am guilty of doing myself- - abogado) may inspire ideas that they can extract more money from you. Regardless, as a gringo one probably will be charged more. Just a thought.

Try telling them you are a priest! They may do charity work for you.

[QUOTE=Aqualung]Try telling them you are a priest! They may do charity work for you.[/QUOTE]But what happens when you say you are a priest and they want to make a confession of all their past sins?

What are the recommmended penitences prior to Christmas?

[QUOTE=JuanCaminante]But what happens when you say you are a priest and they want to make a confession of all their past sins?

What are the recommmended penitences prior to Christmas?[/QUOTE]I suppose when you have them there on their knees in front of you, you can come up with some kind of penitence!

Economics 101, get a rich client, provide superior service, perhaps at a discount perhaps not. Make more money in the long run due to repeat business.

Chica economics Sos de los EEUU cien pesos mas, sos medico, dame tetas why dos cientos mas!

I've seen girls leave with Argies for less because an American wouldn't pay more. If you tell them you're a doctor they will want more money because you have more money.

Do what a former member used to do, pretend to be Bulgarian, pretend to be a drunk Bulgarian but he wasn't pretending about the drunk part.

Indirectly, you hit the nail on the head. (1) Chicas assume that if you are from the USA, you have loads of cash (2) The chicas - as they should be - are always working to extract the maximum amount possible from the target. So regardless of the amount being negotiated, if there is something you have done or said that indicates you have more cash than you are putting in front of her, she will be pissed off. That is why the same girl will refuse 400 pesos from an American and leave with an Argie for 300: she won't leave with the American because she thinks he has more, but is holding back; whereas she will leave with the Argie because she believes he is holding nothing back. Pride is a strong contributing factor to chica logic.

Kind of related, and included for anecdotal titillation, some girls who refuse 400 pesos, are known to blow the remisero for a free taxi ride home at the end of the night.

The girls don't charge what they think they are worth, they charge what they think you can pay them!

Americans have more money (and for most of them their knowledge of geography goes as far as anyone who doesn't speak Spanish is an American) so they have more to pay with!

And it's no good saying your Dutch or Rumanian or Greek - you might as well say you are from Texas, New York or Seattle!

They also still see blowing a cab driver for the journey home as good business as they get a free ride and they don't see how many trips they could have paid for with 400 pesos.

It's absolutely frustrating trying to make them understand the basics of economy 101.

[QUOTE=Aqualung]The girls don't charge what they think they are worth, they charge what they think you can pay them!

Americans have more money (and fr most of them their knowledge of geography goes as far as anyone who doesn't speak Spanish is an American) so they have more to pay with!

And it's no good saying your Dutch or Rumanian or Greek - you might as well say you are from Texas, New York or Seattle!

They also still see blowing a cab driver for the journey home as good business as they get a free ride and they don't see how many trips they could have paid for with 400 pesos.

It's absolutely frustrating trying to make them understand the basics of economy 101.[/QUOTE]They are as dumb as a doornob. That is the reason they do what they do.

In addition to that they are women, they are emotional and do not think with logic, most of these women have do not have an education and it is easier to spread your legs than use your head.

They have no concept of the outside world, just their little 30 mile area where they have lived all thier life.

I totally agree with your comments guys. They are just like you described. Congratulations!

Business mentality in argentina, in general it's something similar. For example, if you quote a photo shooting their first question is: who the client is and how big the campaign, if it's a big one, they will charge up to 5 times more. But the job, the amount of hours it's the same. Besides of the inflation, if you hire a service like keymaker, air conditioner installation, etc. They will charge differently based in the quality of the furniture, neighborhood, etc. That's why I try to keep the property as ugly as possible and quote for everything before I begin a renovation. Otherwise, when they see it's getting better, the more they quote.

Regarding the best way to negotiate a deal with the girls, being foreigner, they know you are liying since the lie it's so weak "I'm a poor american who saved for years to travel to Argentina to fuck" No, they won't buy that lie. Best thing you can do it's to learn the less bussier days, and if possible get there together with more guys, take a table and have a negotiator to deal for you. Negotiator should convince two / three / four of them to go for a flat rate, I have done this many times and 90% worked. It's a collective negotiation. Instead of hiding the money, you show that you have a lot of money to spend that night. However, just one person from your group will deal with the money issues. If you are not assigned as the negotiator, you should say, sure, I can give you a tip AFTERWARDS but I'm not carrying money right now. He is inviting us because a game / bet he lose. That way, the girl who refuses (if there is a girl who refuses to go for less and / or she wants to charge more) going for less she will see an opportunity a remote opportunity to make more cash for herself and balance her supposed lose. Another interesting factor it's the other girls will encourage the "overcharger" to go for the deal, as they see unfair another girl to be more "valuable" than herself. No matter if is true or not, what I do it's to tell the girl who accepted the deal: "look baby, I think you are much beautiful than she is, I don't see the reason why she wants more, and we have a limited budget, please talk to her, my friends and I will be very gentle and kind". So now she negotiates for me.

Also, in my opinion, and please, this is just my opinion, I don't see a good deal saving 100 pesos for a Madaho's girl. She will perform the minumum and she will biitch everything.

"Also, in my opinion, and please, this is just my opinion, I don't see a good deal saving 100 pesos for a Madaho's girl. She will perform the minumum and she will biitch everything."

Spot on bro.

I guess when a place is top dog, (or Puteria) over the competition, it will attract a certain amount of criticism.

A couple of points:

1. For a newcomer, Madaho is not to be missed as it is the largest joint in town now and is at the top of its game.

2. As with any top attraction, you usually pay the price, probably too much.

3. Not all girls can be painted with one brush, and that includes Dolly girls, Madaho girls, Hook girls, Apartment girls, and Internet girls.

4. Always remember that YMMV.

For sure check out all venues but don't miss the top attraction.

Mis 4 centavos.

MAG

I posted my comparison of Madahos, La Lpoez and Black in the general category. I am posting the link here to avoid cross posting.

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