Airlines

Doggboy,

Send the chica to purchase both tickets, and have her pay cash.

I fly frequently Bs. As. - La Rioja, and my tickets are always purchased by my Argentine business partners. It might happen that at check in they require you to pay the foreigner's surcharge, but I think it happened once out of 10 times to me. Usually, the agents could not care less about their employer getting fucked.

The only thing my friends do when buying my tickets is using the spanish form of my first name. Also never made problems.

And, yes, 2 tier pricing sucks. No matter if it is for flights, hotels or chicas.

2 centavos de.

El Alemán

Thanks to El Aleman and others for their advise. Due to time constraints I was not able to use all advise given, but did get the gf's resident rate, while I am paying non resident. I will be better equiped to perform subterfuge next time.

Hello,

I just wanted to share some inside info on AA. This October they will be adding their 5th flight to B. A.. This flight will be from ORD. United had this route but they gave it away. So AA will be picking it up if the goverment approves, which I am sure they will. Also United will stop flying to Montevideo on June the 8 of this year.

Take care.

Tiger

Just in the interest of accuracy. United didn't "give up" the ORD-EZE route. It is a seasonal routing that they only fly during the Argentine summers. Last year they decided not to operate that route, but they retain the authority to operate it.

AA is going to operate the route starting in the North American fall and will also probably operate a MIA-MVD non-stop on a daily basis starting in Sept./ Oct. timeframe.

The last UAL flight to MVD will be tomorrow, June 6th.

DL and AA are attacking each other for their fares to Buenos Aires. So you can get a $640 all in fare on DL from SFO or DEN, or $615 from Atlanta and SLC on AA. These fare wars usually don't last long. If DL or AA have a hub in a city, check the other airline for good fares.

Ah, I love the smell of airlines fighting each other!

I just recieved an email from LAN saying they are doing direct flights from NYC to Chile. There are several planes a day that leave Chile for Buenos Aires so If you miss your connection your not screwed like I was going through Lima.

I still think a coach ticket on LAN to BA through Chile is better than coach on American Airlines. If you can afford business class by all means do AA non stop.

Gentlemen,

Delta is having a fare promotion. You can get this fare for ALL this summer and into next March or April of 2008. Yesterday the prices dropped from about 1500$ for December travel to 540 plus tax or 630$ RT. In December only Dec. 24th was at this price, however the complete months of June, July, August, Sept. October had this price as well as after Jan. 16 2008. This morning they are all 950 to 1900$. HOWEVER check every few hours as Delta will drop the price today to below what I paid yesterday (per the same email alert service that informed me yesterday). It comes and goes in a few hours, act quickly.

Not a promotion, as much as a fare war against UA.

Good from WAS, DEN and SFO. Get them while you can!

[QUOTE=BundaLover]Gentlemen,

Delta is having a fare promotion. You can get this fare for ALL this summer and into next march or April of 2008. Yesterday the prices dropped from about 1500$ for December travel to 540 plus tax or 630$ RT. In December only Dec. 24th was at this price, however the complete months of June, July, August, Sept. October had this price as well as after Jan. 16 2008. This morning they are all 950 to 1900$. HOWEVER check every few hours as Delta will drop the price today to below what I paid yesterday (per the same email alert service that informed me yesterday) It comes and goes in a few hours, act quickly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sidney]Mandatory! His private affairs are our business! Ex-communicate him![/QUOTE]Hey, what's going on! I'm not in Buenos Aires. Out of the loop?

[QUOTE=Sidney]Mandatory! His private affairs are our business! Ex-communicate him![/QUOTE]And what does this have to do with Airlines?

Those 600 dollar fares now appear to be gone. 800+ now.

Best of all in the good old days at the nadir of the Argie currency crisis - flights were mainly empty, leading to 400 dollar RT fares. At that price, I even slipped away for a couple of long weekend trips.

I was unpacking today and realized that a zipper had been torn off my suitcase. When I opened it things were tossed all over. The odd thing was all they stole was a carton of cigarettes. I had a 2 pairs of nice shoes 2 ties and a few other things.

I invested $400 in that suitcase just this christmas. I thought I deserved a good suitcase instead of buying a new cheapo every other trip.

By the way the line for Aerolineas Argentinas was sickining. The day before there was overcast so they couldnt fly and man were they paying the price. It was like the caos that goes on with cheapo american carriers.

I made my 55 minute connection. I was so pleased.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I was unpacking today and realized that a zipper had been torn off my suitcase. When I opened it things were tossed all over. The odd thing was all they stole was a carton of cigarettes. I had a 2 pairs of nice shoes 2 ties and a few other things.[/QUOTE]Maybe those shoes aren't as nice as you think?:p

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I was unpacking today and realized that a zipper had been torn off my suitcase. When I opened it things were tossed all over. The odd thing was all they stole was a carton of cigarettes. I had a 2 pairs of nice shoes 2 ties and a few other things.

I invested $400 in that suitcase just this christmas. I thought I deserved a good suitcase instead of buying a new cheapo every other trip.[/QUOTE]Make a claim with the airline. In fact, how do you know it happened at EZE? I've had more theft at some airports in the US (MIA in particular), than at foreign ones.

I get a decent quality of luggage from Costco, usually $100-$120 each piece. They will also replace them, with no questions asked. I usually get 300,000-500,000 miles out of a piece of luggage before it needs to be replaced.

No Delta cheap flights for the last several days. I'll post when I see it again. Stay tuned. Does anyone have more information? On the flight that I purchased both SFO-ATL and ATL to EZE was empty on outbound and return.

[QUOTE=BundaLover]No Delta cheap flights for the last several days. I'll post when I see it again. Stay tuned. Does anyone have more information? On the flight that I purchased both SFO-ATL and ATL to EZE was empty on outbound and return.[/QUOTE]It was empty? You bought and flew it already? If you're talking about the seat map, then many people who buy tickets don't select the seats until they get to the airport, or a month or two before the flight. The seat map doesn't mean much, in this case.

The recent fare wars are just that, a war against the other airlines flying the route. They often last just hours, or a few days as it was here. If you see a really good fare, don't sit on your dick, buy it!

I suggest you research your hotel / apartment situation before booking your flight. As I was leaving alot of tourists were coming.

Yup. It was the seat map. However note that the airlines don't sell tickets and THEN fill out the seat map. They don't sell 200 seats and leave the seat map empty. I purchased my ticket for 630$ then the next day a friend purchased the same ticket for 545$ with all taxes for the same flights. (for Dec 2007 / Jan 2008). Now they are posting at about 1200$ plus tax and up.

Delta, American and Continental have established routes. Its not like they are expanding new service or openning up new gateways. In a fare war other airlines will compete. I didnt see anyone competing against Delta hence how is it a 'fare war'? They just decided to cut fares in half on their own. They are not cheap today, I just checked.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I suggest you research your hotel / apartment situation before booking your flight. As I was leaving alot of tourists were coming.[/QUOTE]What the fuck does this mean? There are always lots of people leaving, and lots of people coming. If you're booking a flight 8 months in advance, you *will* be able to find an apartment if you plan ahead. If you wait until one month before, you might have a problem.

[QUOTE=BundaLover]Yup. It was the seat map. However note that the airlines don't sell tickets and THEN fill out the seat map. They don't sell 200 seats and leave the seat map empty. I purchased my ticket for 630$ then the next day a friend purchased the same ticket for 545$ with all taxes for the same flights. (for Dec. 2007 / Jan. 2008) Now they are posting at about 1200$ plus tax and up.

Delta, American and Continental have established routes. Its not like they are expanding new service or openning up new gateways. In a fare war other airlines will compete. I didnt see anyone competing against Delta hence how is it a 'fare war'? They just decided to cut fares in half on their own. They are not cheap today, I just checked.[/QUOTE]What airline did you buy your ticket on? Many airlines have a best fare guarantee, or will refund your money withing 24 hours of purchase. This is a good thing to know, as if a deal comes up, refund the first one, and buy another, or they will often just change the original ticket and give you a refund on the difference.

It was a fare war because UA was attacking Delta's hubs (ATL, SLC, etc) and DL responded by attacking UA hubs (SFO, ORD, DEN) When Delta first entered the market (2005, I think) the others attacked it, so there were a lot of $369 and $399 fares to EZE. Quite nice if you knew about it and scooped up some tickets.

If you know where to look you would have even seen a DFW-EZE fare in Business class for the cost of a coach seat a couple of weeks ago.

Delta. The below is cut from their web page. So I could have purchased and the next day swapped out for a savings. Live and learn. I am still happy with 630$ SFO-EZE and my buddy got a fantastic price. Thanks JC.

Risk-free Cancellation.

As part of our Low Fare Guarantee, you can now get a refund for e>tickets you purchased directly through Delta. You don't even have to call.

Once you've bought your e>ticket, you have a day to cancel it for any reason and receive a full refund—including any prepaid fees and Direct Ticketing Charges—with no cancellation fee.

See full terms and conditions for additional details.

Here's how it works:

Use your name and flight confirmation number or your SkyMiles number and PIN to search for your itinerary. Then, cancel your e>ticket. Your refund will be automatically applied to your original form of payment.

If you purchased your e>ticket at a Delta ticket office or airport ticket counter, e-mail your receipt number (beginning with 006) for a refund of the Direct Ticketing Charge.

Terms & Conditions.

Tickets / Cancellation:

Cancellation request must be made by midnight of the day after the e>ticket is purchased or midnight of the departure date of the first flight, whichever comes first. Available only for e>tickets purchased at the time of reservation through Delta ticket offices and airport ticket counters, Reservation Sales, or at delta. Com or flysong. Com.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]What the fuck does this mean? There are always lots of people leaving, and lots of people coming. If you're booking a flight 8 months in advance, you *will* be able to find an apartment if you plan ahead. If you wait until one month before, you might have a problem.[/ QUOTE]It means yeah plan ahead and make sure you know more or less where you want to stay. I researched it for almost a month and it was not easy on a budget.

Not everbody has the luxury of booking 8 months in advance or wants to rent an apartment. I prefer hotels.

Newberry Airport in the midst of another disaster. 10,000 people affected by the recent fog cancellations and then the unions went on strike because people got upset with service and employees felt threatened, so they closed down the airport.

Lots of upset travellers who have dealt with this before and tourists who are saying this is their last trip.

Infrstructure continues to break down in the face of growth.

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Newberry airport in the midst of another disaster. 10,000 people affected by the recent fog cancellations and then the unions went on strike because people got upset with service and employees felt threatened, so they closed down the airport.

Lots of upset travellers who have dealt with this before and tourists who are saying this is their last trip.

Infrstructure continues to break down in the face of growth.[/QUOTE]More evidence of increasing mob mentality out at Jorge Newberry. God knows the airline business here is a mess, but if the airport is socked in due to fog, what are they supposed to do? The response by infuriated customers, including threats and assault, is also an indication of societal breakdown. Seems we have been seeing more of this lately in BsAs. The rabble is restless!

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]It means yeah plan ahead and make sure you know more or less where you want to stay. I researched it for almost a month and it was not easy on a budget.

Not everbody has the luxury of booking 8 months in advance or wants to rent an apartment. I prefer hotels.[/QUOTE]To say that you shouldn't book your flight before you have a hotel, is just plain wrong. Unless you're buying a ticket for one or two weeks out, you shouldn't have a problem with finding reasonable lodging. I booked my ticket about two months out, and had no problem whatsoever finding lodging.

I booked the Intercontinental hotel for $50 a night using a special promotion while I was there last month. Much better than the $200 a night they normally charge. Otherwise, a $20-$40 a night apartment works well. If anyone wanted a nice hotel for a good price, I posted the deal months ago. It's probably not available any more.

I think that giving bad advice is much worse than giving no advice at all.

I had a reservation with a certain local firm that rents out apartments. A month later I was told that the owner needed the apartment back and so they offered other accomodations. I did not like any of them so I easily found another company. The key is that if you have a certain budget for lodging then it becomes more difficult. There are plenty of organizations that are available on the net. Of course, be careful. Do not send any funds via wiregram or Moneygram or any type of wire transaction. Once it is gone it is gone. This is why I think Jackson's setup is above the rest. It just happens that this trip I needed a two bedroom in Recoleta.

Joe Vato

[QUOTE=Joe Vato] This is why I think Jackson's setup is above the rest. It just happens that this trip I needed a two bedroom in Recoleta.

Joe Vato[/QUOTE]How is Jackson's setup above the rest?

Jackson's apt is overpriced @ $90 a night, I don't know the monthly rate 30x$90 = $2700 x 75% = $2025-00

Jackson's apt is in a good location is modern and has good fixtures, but IMHO its overpriced.

I have stayed in 5 different apts in BsAs, used 4 different companys with no major problems. I have always had 100% of my deposit's returned.

So again why is Jackson's setup above the rest?

Jackson's apartment is overpriced if he cannot get it rented at his asking rate. As long as he can keep it occupied at this price, I would say he exactly hit the market. If you see a line of wannabe renters all the way to Madaho's, he probably is to cheap.

And, as can be seen frequently here on the board, sometimes he gives specials to fill upcoming vacancies.

It is a different thing, if some consider $90 too much, but that's their personal idea, not to generalize.

2 centavos onto supply and demand.

El Alemán

Unless something has changed in the last week, I think it is no longer Jackson's apartment, so the point is rather moot.

Last time I was in Argentina I rented an apartment from Alojargentina. The two heaters went out over the course of a three days. The weather became very cold and it was difficult to have someone come on over to fix the heater. I was going to buy a portable heater but I was told that they would send a repairman over. When he contacted me he said that Recoleta was a dangerous area and he refused to make an evening repair. The guy did not show up until 10:30 A. M. The next day. It was a real hassle. I was also told that the owner of the apartment would not spring for a new portable heater to replace the old one. He was short on money.

First of all I bet Jackson would of taken care of any problem right away. Second I understand that there is no need to send a deposit for the apartment. As I remember I also had to wait for someone to arrive to let me into the apartment. It was a real hassle. So Jackson's apartment is above the going rate. Maybe he uses it as a business tool to earn money. Who cares? It is smart if he does rent it out for a profit. The area is very good for a visitor but there is less worry during the stay if something does not go right.

Just my two cents.

Joe Vato

[QUOTE=Joe Vato]....When he contacted me he said that Recoleta was a dangerous area and he refused to make an evening repair....[/QUOTE][blue]What? He told you that Recoleta was a "dangerous area".

LOTFLMAO.

I can't think of many places in BA that are safer than Recoleta.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I know. This is just one reason I refuse to do business with this one company. In fact there is a police station just around the corner staffed with an officer 24/7 at the entrance of the station. I found Recoleta to be very safe even walking at 4:00 A. M. I just think that the repair man was lazy and did not want to come out to make the repair because of the very cold weather.

[QUOTE=Joe Vato]I know. This is just one reason I refuse to do business with this one company. In fact there is a police station just around the corner staffed with an officer 24/7 at the entrance of the station. I found Recoleta to be very safe even walking at 4:00 A. M. I just think that the repair man was lazy and did not want to come out to make the repair because of the very cold weather.[/QUOTE]He was probably taking a shit upstairs at New Port.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]To say that you shouldn't book your flight before you have a hotel, is just plain wrong. Unless you're buying a ticket for one or two weeks out, you shouldn't have a problem with finding reasonable lodging. I booked my ticket about two months out, and had no problem whatsoever finding lodging.

I think that giving bad advice is much worse than giving no advice at all.[/QUOTE]I agree with JC, BsAs has lots of places to stay, but cheap airfare is hard to come by.

The radar was OUT again on my last 2 trips to Bs As. My departure flight was on the tarmac for 50 minutes, as all the backed up planes were lined up to leave. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact that they were not "blindly" sending planes down the runways. I just wish they had a way to keep the radar up and running! This is not the first couple times it has been out when I have visited. Seems like a pretty important piece of equipment they might want to keep running correctly.

Coach

Does Jacksons apartment have functional radar? I don't want to be off topic about 'airlines' so perhaps we can combine them. Do the other apartments have beverage service?

I'm sure there have been many temporairly BACKED up problems in Jackson's apartment! I am also confident that many of the flights were able to get off. Finally! The beverage service has got to be an EXTRA perk! LOL.

Coach

When I was leaving EZE a couple of weeks ago, they said a loaner radar was on a boat from Spain, and was supposed to arrive mid June. I think everyone spent 45 minutes to an hour on the tarmac!