5. 20 today on S. Ortiz, up from 5. 00 yesterday. That is a 4% increase in one day. The sky is falling.
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5. 20 today on S. Ortiz, up from 5. 00 yesterday. That is a 4% increase in one day. The sky is falling.
Supposedly this a flight to safety. Fairly amazing given the US debt load and unwillingness of Americans to raise taxes or cut government spending. I know Government workers who's pension relies on taxes who do not want to pay taxes. It's all magic now.
[QUOTE=Big Boss Man;422499]Supposedly this a flight to safety. Fairly amazing given the US debt load and unwillingness of Americans to raise taxes or cut government spending. I know Government workers who's pension relies on taxes who do not want to pay taxes. It's all magic now.[/QUOTE]As much as $5. 65 to 1 Boys!
If you can find it!
On Lavalle the guy told me :
$5. 15 for less than a grand.
$5. 20 for $1000. 00 to $4999. 00.
$5. 25 for $5000. 00 and up.
That was the carnival barker but if I go straight to the owner there is no commission so it should be higher.
A few of us should pool our resources and get a better deal.
Maybe hit $5.65 .
Say each of us has to exchange 2k or something like that?
TL
Somehow my original post on the casa de cambio on Scalabrini Ortiz got edited but it is the first or second door on the right as you cross Cervino (that should have a tilde) coming from Las Heras towards Libertador. I think it is the 3200 block of S. Ortiz but cross Cervino and there is a discreet little door with frosted glass and a buzzer. If you can't find it based on these directions, go to the corner of Park, Waite, and Hope and hacete una paja.
Like that damn pig commercial. It's on a ride. Jumped to 5. 5 after 4pm.
[url]http://www.ambito.com/economia/mercados/dolar.asp[/url]
To think 3 weeks ago I would have jumped up and down saying ATMs are the way to go when you travel. My large investment house broker is now charging 2% at the ATM so really I was at 4. 20 to 1 last Saturday when I arrived. I could swear it was only 1% fee last year. The big banks are broke guys. They recruited too many people from the same schools, slept together, and now their progeny are idiots. IMO it is an extreme negative sign in an economy when everybody goes off system. Between Dickhead's and Gatohunter's advice I am probably getting a go or two for free.
Get a Schwab ATM card, they refund all fees and if you have enough in there there is no forex fee's also.
I tried an old trick yesterday. The AMEX office in retro once upon a time would give you 1000 USD as a chas advance. I was going to try to get the USD and hop on a bus to Palermo to make 120$ in 30 minutes. Unfortunately they are only giving pesos now at the blanco rate.
There is a reliable black market no questions asked exchange place located on Arenales between Talcahuano and Libertad. If you are walking on Arenales toward 9 de Julio, it is on the left hand side halfway between the aforementioned streets. The sign outside says Exchange and Antiques and the phone number is 4813 7978. Their most recent buy / sell spread was $5. 40/$5. 65.
Earlier this week I went to my two favorite no-name-on-the-door places on Corrientes near Florida with 2k to exchange.
I observed that their street presence is somewhat diminished than it was in the past. The places used to have 2-4 cops standing in front of the door, but no more. At one place the employees were blocking the door and challenging anyone who wanted to enter, and the other's front door was locked and they appeared closed until a guy inside apparently recognized me through the one way glass and opened the door to let me in.
Unfortunately, both places were stuck on 5.1, so I left.
Congratulations to everyone getting these 5.2-5.4 rates.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;422605]There is a reliable black market no questions asked exchange place located on Arenales between Talcahuano and Libertad. If you are walking on Arenales toward 9 de Julio, it is on the left hand side halfway between the aforementioned streets. The sign outside says Exchange and Antiques and the phone number is 4813 7978. Their most recent buy / sell spread was $5. 40/$5. 65.[/QUOTE]Interestingly I found this to be a good place to exchange greens on my last trip. When the guy asked me how much I wanted to change I said 200. Thousand! I was of course joking but he said with a bit of notice it wouldn't be a problem!
[QUOTE=Amantelondres;422616]Interestingly I found this to be a good place to exchange greens on my last trip. When the guy asked me how much I wanted to change I said 200. Thousand! I was of course joking but he said with a bit of notice it wouldn't be a problem![/QUOTE]Can you be reasonably sure at a place like this that you are not getting fake pesos for your greenbacks?
[QUOTE=Jim Mac;422727]Can you be reasonably sure at a place like this that you are not getting fake pesos for your greenbacks?[/QUOTE]I had no problem re fake pesos. I'm sure other mongers who've changed greens here would have posted had they experienced a problem
[QUOTE=Jackson; 422608]Earlier this week I went to my two favorite no-name-on-the-door places on Corrientes near Florida with 2k to exchange.
I observed that their street presence is somewhat diminished than it was in the past. The places used to have 2-4 cops standing in front of the door, but no more. At one place the employees were blocking the door and challenging anyone who wanted to enter, and the other's front door was locked and they appeared closed until a guy inside apparently recognized me through the one way glass and opened the door to let me in.
Unfortunately, both places were stuck on 5. 1, so I left.
Congratulations to everyone getting these 5. 2-5. 4 rates.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]New Law!
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/argentina-more-controls-buying-us-dollars-180240507.html[/url]
I can get over 5. 3 at the grocery store!
One of those Asian mini markets.
She has tons of cash ready to go in bundles of 10k.
TL
Xoom offering 5. 63.
[url]https://www.xoom.com/argentina/fees[/url]
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 422773]New Law!
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/argentina-more-controls-buying-us-dollars-180240507.html[/url]
I can get over 5. 3 at the grocery store!
One of those Asian mini markets.
She has tons of cash ready to go in bundles of 10k.
TL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canardly; 422807]Xoom offering 5. 63.
[url]https://www.xoom.com/argentina/fees[/url][/QUOTE]That's excellent but I live here so how can I send them money?
What happens if I just show up and ask them to exchange dollars?
TL
Key words with Xoom are "US based bank account or credit card".
[QUOTE=Gato Hunter;422811]Key words with Xoom are "US based bank account or credit card".[/QUOTE]Yep that be true. I have a USD account and VISA but not with a US bank and I am out of luck using xoom. Com. Though I can though send money to a friend in the USA via PayPal and have them send me the money via xoom. I'd have to check all the fees to see if it would be worth it though.
What is the daily limit for usd withdrawal in Uruguay?
I completed a test transfer of USD $200 using the XOOM service. I was sufficiently satisfied that I transferred another USD $500. Here is the 411 on my transfer-by the numbers.
I got 5. 6238 pesos to 1 USD. After you apply the xoom service charge, that works out to about 5. 46 pesos to 1 USD.
1. The web address is [url]www.xoom.com.[/url]
2. You must have a USA bank account or credit / debit card. (I used a debit card for the test transfer and a bank account for the second transfer) If you do not have a USA bank account or credit card, you need a TRUSTED friend with one.
3. You can pick up the cash at any MORE Money Transfers or Banco Frances location. The MORE locations are akin to Western Union, and I prefer them. You are in and out very quickly. I am told that some Banco Frances locations require an account. You can also have the money transferred to a bank account.
4. The xoom service charge is variable. It goes up with the amount transferred, so there is only the convenience advantage of transferring a large amount.
5. I had no trouble with the authorities. I do not know whether they make random investigations or if their investigations are based on the size of the transfer.
6. Some credit cards have their own fees which can be quite onerous. For example, I carry one card that has no annual fee, but has a currency conversion fee, a cash advance fee, a "foreign" transaction fee, and starts charging interest as soon as a cash transfer is made. I used a debit / ATM card issued by my bank, that is also a Mastercard. For the second transfer I went directly to my bank account because the xoom service charge is lower for a bank account transfer vice a credit / debit card.
7. You have to have TWO different email addresses in order to send money to yourself. Xoom asks for two email addresses (one for the sender and a different one for the receiver) , and they cannot be the same. I use AOL, so this was not a problem. I am pretty sure that hotmail, yahoo, and gmail all accommodate multiple email addresses.
8. You must have an Argentina address and telephone number. I used the apartment I am renting, and it worked just fine. I am sure that you can use a hotel with no problem.
9. I gave the person behind the CAJA window at MORE a slip of paper with the transaction number, the amount of pesos I was expecting and my USA passport. He counted the money and I was out of there. I used the MORE on Libertad in Retiro.
10. The xoom online form has a space for a coupon code, but they also say that they do not accept coupons. I could not find a code that worked and paid the service charge.
Tres3
Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?
[QUOTE=Yujin; 422897]Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?[/QUOTE]Banks in Argentina are more or less under the control of the government (the law requires them to "invest 50% of their deposits in government bonds etc. Which give the president a lot of say in the way banks operate here. That said I would not advise anyone from keeping more then a few thousand pesos (for day to day use) in ANY bank here. Most people here with money keep a "stash" at home which is why there are so many home invasions and kidnappings. The people with money here, if they are intelligent need to keep a low profile because #1 the banks are thieves #2 the police are worthless (they get paid nothing!) and very often are connected to the crime #3 The law gives minors immunity to do what ever they please. Most crimes are committed by minors although often under the direction of adults. #4 there are too many poor people here that think the rich should support them. A theme that the government tends to underwrite.
Tourists may change their pesos into dollars only if they can show a receipt from a legit "casa de cambio" and then the can only change up to the amount shown on the receipt.
[QUOTE=Yujin; 422897]Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?[/QUOTE]It is hearsay, but I have heard it from more than one person. An Argentinian citizen now must "prove" (whatever that means) that he got the pesos "legally" before he is allowed to change them to dollars. I do not know about legal residents who carry USA passports, but if you travel to the USA or Europe a lot, I would recommend a foreign bank account with some dollars or euros on deposit. For a tourist (or anyone carrying a foreign passport) to change pesos back to dollars, you need a receipt from a licensed "casa de cambio", and a lot of patience. You will still take a haircut, but it is better than nothing. You should plan your travels to leave the country with very few pesos.
Unless you are going to change dollars to pesos on the "bolsa negro", I advise using plastic and ATMs for most of your transactions. They give you close to the "official" exchange rate at the time of the transaction, and you do not have the hassle of going to a "casa de cambio" to obtain pesos. You should carry an ATM card that rebates ATM fees, and a credit card with no "foreign transaction" fees. If you have a frequent flyer miles credit card, you get miles for your vacation expenditures.
Tres3
[QUOTE=Yujin; 422897]Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?[/QUOTE]I put on my best gringo tourista face and tried this before I left for shits and giggles.
The answer is "NO".
This made me watch my peso count the last few days I was there. In the end I gave one of my long time favoritas a nice tip on my last day, and a bought 120 pesos worth of alphahores, postcards and other touristy shit to make it look like I was actually on vacation and not fucking every hot chica on a whim.
[QUOTE=Yujin; 422897]Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?[/QUOTE]I kept my pesos knowing I would be coming back (big grin). Another 4 days!
I just completed a transfer using Xoom. I was very impressed with the simplicity.
I sent $1700 USD, at an exchange rate of 5.63, via the debit card attached to my bank account. The fee was 46.70, which is higher using a debit card (30 would have been a direct bank debit) , but I wanted to try this first. I have since added my bank account to my Xoom account to try it that way next time.
My effective exchange rate including the fees, then, was 5. 48 pesos to the dollar.
I had to fill out a form there in the office, when I went to pick up my money. As I understand it, locally, there is a $5000 ARS limit on how much a recipient can pick up without filling out a form which has both the sender and recipient's information. I filled out both sides since it was me at both ends, and had no problems. I put my same email address in both recipient and sender and nothing was remarked. I signed some receipts and they counted out the money.
There are limits on Xoom transfers. Check the site to get the correct information, under "Help". Easy to find.
I believe that the declaration you fill out here to receive the money is based on the local ARS $5000 limit that was mentioned for More to give out money. But since More is here locally, I don't know that the Xoom forms and the MMT (More) forms serve the same purpose. As I understand it, to raise my limit to send from Xoom, I have to declare other documentation with them.
To send more than Xoom's default limits you need to fill out more information with Xoom. The website gives you telephone numbers to use to contact them to file this additional information. They mention something like an official government-issued I'd (such as a driver's license) to be on file to comply with US regulations. They also say that if you try to send more than the limit, that you will automatically prompted to fill in the required information at the point you send on the website.
It took me about a total of ten minutes to complete the transfer. The girl behind the glass was pleasant and professional. They give you the money in an envelope, but be ready to put it somewhere quickly. But you're only 2/3 block from Santa Fe anyway.
The area's quite safe overall. Technically it is in Retiro (I was surprised, thinking Retiro ended at 9 de Julio until I looked on a barrio map) , but it's effectively part (or outskirts of) Recoleta. It's actually safer than parts of Recoleta where it gets closer to the Villa nearby.
[QUOTE=Yujin; 422897]Given the Argentinean government's restriction on currency exchange from pesos to dollars, I'm wondering if anyone can share their recent experience with currency exchange from peso to US dollar. Are tourists able to exchange their peso to US dollar at local banks before they depart? Is official pre-approval necessary for the currency exchange?
The recent attempts to "de-dollarize" the Argentinean economy raises a question for those who permanently reside in Argentina. I'm going to guess that you don't deposit your US dollars or Euros into local banks (or do you?). If not, are you 'squirreling' your dollars under a mattress or do you deposit them into an overseas account?[/QUOTE]I did my last two exchanges from dollars to pesos at a bank. Then before I left I went to the same bank (although I don't think that mattered) and gave them pesos and one of the receipts, which was for more than the number of pesos I gave them, and received dollars. But that was a few months ago.
Bob
Becareful out there, we've had a number of people that have received fake 50s amd 100s peso notes. Taxi cab drivers can be notorious for this and we even had a fake $50 peso note come from an ATM. Look at them closely!
[QUOTE=Gtbguy;423029]Becareful out there, we've had a number of people that have received fake 50s amd 100s peso notes. Taxi cab drivers can be notorious for this and we even had a fake $50 peso note come from an ATM. Look at them closely![/QUOTE]Who's "we"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? What does getting fake money from a taxista have to do with the subject of this thread? And what happens if you "look closely" at all the bills you get from an ATM and you think one is fake? What exactly do you plan to do then?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;422505]Somehow my original post on the casa de cambio on Scalabrini Ortiz got edited but it is the first or second door on the right as you cross Cervino (that should have a tilde) coming from Las Heras towards Libertador. I think it is the 3200 block of S. Ortiz but cross Cervino and there is a discreet little door with frosted glass and a buzzer. If you can't find it based on these directions, go to the corner of Park, Waite, and Hope and hacete una paja.[/QUOTE]Found the place no problem after finding your post. Has a sign "Dollar Euro" and a green awning. I had not gone far enough on Scalabrini this morning. 5.4 today for 5 x $100 bills. No sense changing more at one time if the rate continues to climb.
Equivalent with xoom.com, including the $15 service fee paying with a bank account, would get you $2684.85 (5.3697 - 1). Almost the same as the cambio gave today.
[QUOTE=SunSeeker; 423055]Found the place no problem after finding your post. Has a sign "Dollar Euro" and a green awning. I had not gone far enough on Scalabrini this morning. 5.4 today for 5 x $100 bills. No sense changing more at one time if the rate continues to climb.
Equivalent with xoom. Com, including the $15 service fee paying with a bank account, would get you $2684. 85 (5. 3697. 1). Almost the same as the cambio gave today.[/QUOTE]I have a better deal for you Boys!
Nestor Umere
He is paying $5. 65 today if it's at least a grand.
You call him and he will bring it to your hotel or apartment.
Super Safe to do things this way.
I'm pissed because I only got $5. 30 from him just recently but the dollar keeps jumping!
Nestor 153 517 0377.
Tell him Tejano Libre sent you!
TL
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 423172]I have a better deal for you Boys!
Nestor Umere
He is paying $5. 65 today if it's at least a grand.
You call him and he will bring it to your hotel or apartment.
Super Safe to do things this way.
I'm pissed because I only got $5. 30 from him just recently but the dollar keeps jumping!
Nestor 153 517 0377.
Tell him Tejano Libre sent you!
TL[/QUOTE]A friend of "OURS" on this board received counterfit pesos from the Xoom affiliate here in BA.
Don't know how much or how many $100. 00 peso bills they gave him but an exchange house should know better!
TL.
I'm sticking to Nestor
TL,
Nestor phone# not working. Updated ph# for exchange? Gracie.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 423281]A friend of "OURS" on this board received counterfit pesos from the Xoom affiliate here in BA.
Don't know how much or how many $100. 00 peso bills they gave him but an exchange house should know better!
TL.
I'm sticking to Nestor[/QUOTE]
Western Union at Lavalle and Florida in Microcenter offered 5. 50p for a dollar today.
Much better than 4. 32 offered by the cambio de casas next door to them.
Inflation here is crazy now.
[QUOTE=Lgover; 423648]TL,
Nestor phone# not working. Updated ph# for exchange? Gracie.[/QUOTE]
The zoom rate is over 6 now that sounds like a low rateI have stopped using more MT using BBVA bank transfer now.
People have gotten truchos from an ATM
From a security standpoint I would never invite some stranger to my apartment for a money deal now they know where to send the ladrons for all Of your shit or worse.
I wor not do a large amount either the rate is not doing down anytime soon
[QUOTE=Lgover; 423648]TL,
Nestor phone# not working. Updated ph# for exchange? Gracie.[/QUOTE]The phone number rings and goes into his voice mailbox so I don't know.
At first I had the same thoughts as GH about having someone come over but if you have an apartment with an entryway downstairs that's good enough.
The Money Man will not know which unit you live in and if you are in a hotel then it does not matter and the lobby is good enough.
And if that's not good enough you can go and see him on Lavalle where he will take you to a Chino grocery store in broad daylight and the old woman will hand you stacks of $10. 000. 00 pesos stacks.
I need to go look for him tomorrow.
Also, you boys should pool your cash before you exchange to get the highest rates.
Bank Transfers :
A ROYAL PAIN the last time I tried
It must go to the Central Bank first and if not claimed by a certain day it will be returned to the USA, a lot of paper work and red tape and questions and after all that if you do get your money it will be in pesos and at the official rate I'm sure.
Maybe things have changed?
TL
5. 7 there this morning. Xoom shows 5. 9 so pretty much equal after fees.
I went there today also with 200$ in ratty 20$ got 5. 7 if there is anyone that needs help finding this place sendmea pm I'll show you just pay my bus fare $2. 50 round trip I'm going to go every two or three days I'm just changing enough for a few days worth of lomo matte and empanadas I'm suprised how cheap I can live when I'm not buying chica drinks and paying two or three chicas a day the rate is not going down anytime soon. This place always seems to change increments by 5 centavos. Will probably be 5. 75 next time
Also there was a PFA inside as a guard today. Only in Argentina is there a federal officer in an illegal casa de cambio.
[QUOTE=Gato Hunter;423745]I'm surprised how cheap I can live when I'm not buying chica drinks and paying two or three chicas a day.[/QUOTE]HAH! Ain't that the truth! I've hit the place 3 times in the last month and the rate has gone 5. 5,5. 6, and today's 5. 7. Yeah there is no reason to change a lot each time. If the rate gets high enough I may go buy the color photo printer I saw for $3100 pesos!
6 to 1 the other day from a friend!
As for the printer, realize that it's probably $299. 99 Dollars on E-Bay!
TL.
Man it's out of control Boys!
Price of Pussy is getting pretty high! Like Giraffe Pussy and that's really up there!
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 423752]6 to 1 the other day from a friend!
As for the printer, realize that it's probably $299. 99 Dollars on E-Bay!
TL.
Man it's out of control Boys!
Price of Pussy is getting pretty high! Like Giraffe Pussy and that's really up there![/QUOTE]Yep, online it is around $375-$400 USD, but at 34lbs I wouldn't want to try and bring it here. Or pay whatever the extortion would be to buy it from Amazon and get it shipped here. Hey at 8-1 it is 400! Jajaja. Canon Pixma Pro9000 MarkII.
What pussy has been getting pretty high? Lots for less than 500 pesos. Some high quality and some lower quality. A person just needs to take some time and do some research.
A 7 or 8 will cost 500 with no arguments AMD basic Spanish. With BBBJ