2004 Reports - Edited

My trip is winding down, so just a couple of brief reviews. I tend to be a creature of habit and will go back to the same places if the service has been good.

Went back to the privado on Arenales for another 30 peso per hour experience. Picked Carolina, a porteña about 28 years old, brunette. Nothing particularly special, but did enjoy the "in-between" time. She did have pretty good oral skills.

Another trip to Corrientes 1965, that is becoming my reference point in BA. Lorena always seems to be there, but I picked a brunette with a nice bosom that had caught my eye the previous time. Her name was Nicole, also a paraguaya. Excellent bbbj, then she urged me to DATY after I had been working on her nice tits, so I obliged since she was fairly well-shaved and smelled clean. If she was putting on an act, it certainly fooled the both of us. A couple of positions in FS for a nice finish. I keep going back because it´s good value for money (this time was 30 pesos for the half hour), there´s always at least a couple fo girls I want to do, and the service is reliable.

[b] Madahos raises entrance (drink prices) to 30 pesos now[/b]


Madahos celebrated their 2 year anniversary last night. I didn't make that party but I went tonight with my buddy, Kickstand, who is in town. We went to Madahos and starting tonight they raised the entrance price for guys to 30 pesos per drink. The chica drinks are still at 50 pesos but this is still disturbing that it is now more expensive to enter Madahos than Black. I just drink bottled water so a 30 peso glass of water is steep.

Most of the girls were not good tonight. In fact, you could argue aweful. I spotted one blonde that was an angel. Model type. Literally. She is a model in her country. I didn't know if it was the truth or not until we got to my apartment and she showed me a website from a fashion show and there were tons of pictures of her. Anyway, I had a great session. I haven't sessioned in Madahos since I moved here but had to celebrate seeing my good friend again.

Bobby wasn't working tonight but if he isn't working you can tell them you are a friend of Gabrielle (another waiter) and he said they will waive the cover for you too. This is a good strategy if you just want to see the action and then leave. Try to tip these bartenders if you can. I'm on a limited budget but I'll never stop tipping these guys. For the most part they are really great and make very little and only on tips so be good to them. I've been with some guys that don't leave anything and it makes me never want to hang out with them again. One time these dudes invited me out. I thought I'd be nice and go with them even though I didn't really want to because it's expensive for me. Long story short, they didn't tip the waiter and I ended up spending my own money to tip for all their drinks. Not cool. If you can afford to come to these type of places, you can at least afford to leave a decent tip. JMHO.

We did leave Madahos to see what the downtown clubs had to offer. I never see anything worth pulling out of Hook's, Ness, Cattos, etc. In fact, I thought most of them were damn scarey. Oh well. We went back to Madahos so I could talk to my blondie. She had a great personality and was really funny. She was really great and she left her phone number on my bedside table when she left, so I probably will hook up with her at some point again in the future.

Anyway, I doubt I'll pull out of Madahos much but there always are those special occasions.

Hi guys wondering if some of you can help me out.

I arrived in BA late last night, and was supposed to have spent the last week planning my trip to BA. But have instead been distracted by the charms of Rio.

If any of you are planning on making any excursions to any of the bars or clubs tonight, I would really appreciate it if I could come along.

If you can just hit me with a PM this afternoon with a time, a place or a telephone number, and I´ll be there!

City Angel

Go to mansion party on Saturday night - great way to hook up with fellow mongers !!

Just caught a Madahos chica from BA double mailing me and another monger. Pretty funny. She mistakenly mailed me with another guys name in the salution. Its going to be fun to watch her try and explain this....

Report on Nuevo Estilo Boliche on Saturday Night

The place was packed on Saturday night and I chanced to meet one Malena (who was sent over to sit in my lap by Dickhead who then proceded to tell me she had picked me out of all the men in the place. Even if it was a damn lie, it was enjoyable. )
The initial attraction of Malena is that she strongly resembles the immortal Laura, the blond cheerleader and wild woman who was dismissed from Nuevo Estilo for being too wild and crazy.
Malena is five inches taller, with the same striking blond hair and pigtails. She is not crazy, but is very amiable and so a trip to the hotel was negotiated for 150 p. and Dickhead and two friends were left to the winds of fate. Malena's service was very good, with dfk, daty, cbj (fairly standard at NEB) and the rest
but no anal. After she was very cuddly and friendly until the hour was up. I would repeat. She does have a number of tattos, so if that is a turn off, she is not the one for you.

I did have a problem with the hotel we went to. In the past the girls used the hotel around the corner and across the street, that hotel had small rooms, but nice showers and was very much like a good love hotel. The one we went to was around the corner and on the same side of the street across the street from the one mentioned above. The rooms were much larger, but the bathrooms were small and although the bed was clean and nicely done, the floor was dirty. Also the halls had a number of men walking about with brooms and mops who were evidently working there, but should not have been seen. They probably would make a new person feel pretty uneasy. Also, there was a knock on the door too early and she called down to complain. I would not return to that hotel and will make that clear to the management of NEB.
Malena indicated that they were no longer using the original hotel. That may have been baloney or not.

Saint, that sucks to hear that Madaho's is charging 30 pesos now. It was just 20 pesos 6 months back. Combine that with the fact that I couldn't get any girl to go below 300 pesos is a deal killer for me. All this puts it in Blacks range and when all is said and done, Blacks is better. Madahos is just not worth going to anymore as far as I'm concerned.

I like the downtown clubs. The talent is definitely not up to the Recoleta clubs in terms of looks for the most part, but you can still find a jewel. More importantly the girls there still think 150-200 pesos is the right price. I think it's really what atmosphere you like. Madaho's and Blacks is more dance club like. The downtown clubs are more old fashion neighborhood dive.

The apartments are the way to go. For the price of one Madaho's girl, you can go to the apartments and get three doubles from two girls that could easily work at Madaho's.

Justgotback,

I totally agree with you. Like I said. I rarely pull girls out of Madahos anymore. Sometimes when a friend is in town I'll go with them to look and I'll just have ONE water and chat with the girls. Some of them have given me their phone numbers but many of them I find won't give you their number unless you leave with them at least one time. My friends asked a few girls and they didn't give them their numbers.

Last night the girl I left with asked for 300 pesos and I of course refused. She didn't leave for less than 2 hours so I couldn't get an hour rate. I paid 250 pesos for about 3 hours which she said is the absolute lowest she would go and I believe her. The thing to do when you can't get them down on price is to negotiate more time. It's marketing 101. They have a fixed number in their head so as long as they get close to it they are happy. If you're getting more time it's not too bad of a price, all things considered. She was the only hot girl in there as far as I'm concerned.

Most girls from Black I can still negotiate down to 300 pesos for a few hours so really they are about the same price now. Madahos is making a killing. They have to be making much more than Black now. I still think the overall quality of girls is better at Black.

There might be a "jewel" to be found in the downtown clubs but so far all I have seen is "coal". I've tried it a number of times since coming down with various friends in town and each and every time most girls I wouldn't leave with for free. I guess that's just me. We all have our certain types and I guess I just can't find it in the downtown clubs.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sex is a supply and demand type business. As long as there are guys willing to pay the prices, the girls won't back down on their prices. That is the way it has always been and the way it will always be.

Exon Reporting: This News From Saint Is Very Troubleing.

I consider myself to be a Buenos Aires veteran having made my first trip to Argentina before the devaluation of the peso almost three years ago.

Being the despicable Monger that I am, (In DickHeads Class), I had fallen it love with the girls I'd seen on varrious websites including Escorts-Argentina and others. I had to go, for too me as an American it was impossable for working girls to be as beautiful as they appeared on the web.

It was the the 9-11-01 attacks in New York that sealed my fate as the airfare dropped to $500 round trip. So armed with $5,000 dollars in USD cash my 10 day solo trip began.

I had a ball, the time of my life in the most fabulouse city in the world I'd ever been too. I fell in love with Buenos Aires, its culture and of course its women. But the 5 grand I took with me had disappered leaving only plesant memories. B.A. was a little pricey even for big shot mongers such as myself.

Then the delaluation some three months later and instantly Argentina became the mongers meca offering world class service at a fraction of the cost of Mexico, Europe, and other famous world class monger destinations.

This same devaluation has made it possiable for many fellow hard core mongers to move to Buenos Aires and enjoy the good life at a fraction of the price it would cost to be here in sex prison. ( You fellow Mongers know who you are ).

Exon is worried, Were watching inflation creap which effects the affordabilty of Mongering in the most beautiful city with the nices't people in the world.

Each time I return I find that steak in my favorite restaurants a few peso's more, the taxi ride just a little more, the hotel just a few dollars more. Inflation creap.

The price of pussy is a true benchmark of inflation in Buenos Aires. For example, Cafe Orleans my favorite day time hang out, it used to be you could have any girl in the place for $150 pesos, now their quoteing $200. Sure I still have some old friends that will still do me for $150, but for the most part any new relationship is going to cost $200 peso's.

This news about Madaho's is particularly troubleing as I remember two years ago when mens drinks were $20 peso's and 90% of the girls were For Sale for $150 peso's. Even the Super Stars could only command $200 pesos for multiple hours of bliss, sometimes LTN for that kind of money.

Yes this is Recoleta but were seeing it all over town. Course we can still negociate in places like Excedra & New Port with independant's and semi pro's. But over all the price of pussy has gone up. ( reminds me of a story. In the early 1970's I was in a cat house in Wells Nevada durning the gas embargo. The gal I was negociating with quoted some strange new prices. I said "why so high", she came back and stated " Ass And Gas Have Gone Up In Price"). Maybe history is repeating it self.

Anyway Im troubled by Saints report regarding Madaho's. Madaho's being a benchmark or staple of the Mongering world in B.A. and here were looking at 50% precent price increases in about two years, Outrageous.

And Moreover, in my humble option, the talent in Madaho's is not what it was two years ago, yet their commanding $300 pesos and for the most part getting it. Thats $100 US Dollars. Even Jackson admitts to paying $200 pesos in their.

Its no wonder that reputable Mongers such as DickHead, The Mouse and others won't even go to Recoleta.

Some Thoughts By Exon

Are these price increases merely reflecting the overall recovery in the Argentine economy since the days of the devaluation ? It sounds like it. Low prices have attracted mongers, who have effectively bid up the price of chicas and steaks. If the economy continues to improve, the prices will continue to increase. Thinking about it, as I write, why would the economy not improve from here on ?

Would be interested in the comments of the learned gentlemen who read this forum.

Well, I don't know about Black (never been there) or Madaho's (went there once) but I think I get some pretty fine pussy in BA for around 125 pesos. Like Rafaela, Michaela, Barbara, and Jhana from Catto's. Or Lorena from Ness. Or Yesica from Hook. Or Araceli from Exedra. But maybe I am wrong.

Exon,

Yep. The cost of coming here is definitely going up. You'll find that some hotels have raised their prices or are in the middle of raising their prices. Some hotels are planning on raising their rates up to 50% soon. The simple reason is that there are plenty of tourists here and more on their way. Buenos Aires is actively promoting tourism around the world. I read in a local paper that they want to try to increase tourism by over 40% in the next few years. Their main targets are Chile, Brazil, USA, Canada and all of Europe and Asia.

Just the other night I was in a popular Recoleta restaurant with HobbyinHouston. They had a singer and she went around the entire restaurant asking where everyone was from. The restaurant was packed. Believe it or not, we were the only Americans in the entire restaurant. The rest were from Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and Europe. It's not just more Americans that are coming here. It's everyone.

Sometimes mongers think we are such a huge number. We might be a sizeable amount of people but it is very very small compared to just ordinary businessmen and other tourists coming to Buenos Aires. This isn't a town like Rio where the locals just assume if you are middle aged, not traveling with your wife that you are a monger. That isn't the case here and I love Buenos Aires for that.

You guys can try to "boycott" places like Madahos or Black but IMHO, it will do very little good. Go to Black or Madahos on any given night. It's NOT filled with tons of Americans. It's filled with locals. That's the reason why it's so dead on Saturdays. Madahos and Black are a 'cheaters' hangout. Many locals come here after work during the week. Black is mostly comprised of wealthy locals and businessmen staying at the Alvear Palace.

I've been coming here very often the past 2.5 years. I definitely see a trend and I think that trend will continue. Buenos Aires is still a relatively affordable destination but you have to factor in the costs of an expensive airplane ticket, hotels/apartments, dining out, etc.

It does bother me a little that mongering is more expensive but I don't monger too much like you guys so it doesn't affect me too much. The people here are still some of the friendliest in the world. Just today, Kickstand and I were having lunch at Grant's in Recoleta. An elderly lady asked me where the ice cream was. She was surprised that I could understand her and she asked if I lived here. I told her I do now but that I am American. Kick Stand was next to me and she smiled and told us how we were such beautiful Americans. It's that kind of feeling that I love about being in Buenos Aires. You just don't get that in many parts of the world. That's the reason I'm living in this city. Not for the sex.

I also agree with you about the quality across the board. Not just in the Recoleta clubs but in all the clubs here in Buenos Aires. The quality has steadily gone down over the years. MANY girls have headed to Europe or Mexico City. Just today, an amiga from Madahos called me. She is coming here in a little bit to my apartment and will go out to dinner with Kick Stand and I. She told me how this foreigner is taking 8 of the hottest girls from Madahos and flying them next week to Cancun, Mexico to work until December. She is included in these 8 girls. This isn't just a one time occurence. This will happen more and more.

Guys might complain about the price of sessions here but in the grand scheme of things, it's still not expensive compared to other areas in the world. Most of these girls will easily get $300 US per hour in Cancun. Trust me. I can speak from experience.

The thing of it is...you guys couldn't expect prices to stay so low forever. There still are affordable places. Read Dickhead's posts. He seems to find good value. I'm just not sure how the quality is. I've tried some of the places he goes to and just can't find what I'm looking for the times I have been there.

Exon Reporting: DickHead I would appreciate a few comments from You as our resident Economist regarding Jack Daniels post.

I personally blame it on President Bush and his policy of letting the dollar go to hell against the Euro in order to save the US economy so he can be relected.

Remembering that the Peso was pegged against the dollar but most of the money spent in Argentina is from Europe. And the Euro has been kicking the dollar's ass for sometime now.

Exon

Well Jack Daniels,

My objective and experienced opinion is that we are our worse enemies. We (not me) arrive in paradise from sex prison with worthless Gringas and go nuts with the beauties in Baires and give them pretty much what they want. Ya know what? I think I ma underpaid by about 200k a year, but I cannot and do not get it. The chicks need to be brought down to earth. When a cab driver makes 700 to 1000 pesos a month after expenses, and raises a family on this income, that 100 dollar an hour or even all night long piece of ass, is totally ludicrous.

Like I have said many times before, I met a solid 9.5 at Newport last summer and had great honeymoon sex all night long till noon for 150 pesos. THAT is even high by my standards but not nearly so rediculous.

Ok now guys, remember, this is just the opinion of Latina Addict and in no way reflects the opinions of the man Jackson. Although, I know for a fact Mr. J himself is EXTREMELY upset about what some of us did to some of his ex favorite boliches by raising the prices.

Latina Addict

Saint,

You have only been in B.A. for 6 weeks. Give yourself a chance to catch up on your mongering. Once your businesses are up and running so should your mongering. Don't despair just yet. You set the bar pretty high for most of us out here over the last 2 years. Few of us could keep pace with your " carousing " thoughout the world. You were non stop. A 6 week break is a good thing!

I expect that you will be back in your old form in a few short months.

Starfe

Starfe,

You know me better than probably anyone. Maybe you are right. While I don't see myself "hobbying" too much, when it comes down to it I love having sex with various gorgeous model quality girls. I always have and I suspect I always will. That's why I don't consider myself a good candidate for ever getting married.

It's very easy for me to meet normal beautiful girls here. My biggest problem is that I get bored easily and let's face it. These hobby girls can be pretty exciting. Also, some of the hottest non-pros here are even higher maitenance, believe it or not, than US girls. We'll see what happens. Stay tuned....

Saint

P.S. Latina Addict, you can't compare what a taxi driver makes or any other type of job to what these girls make. Once a "taxi driver" starts to make you feel as good as one of these girls makes you feel then you can start comparing what each one makes. (And if that happens I'd be really scared..ha, ha). Some of you forget that these girls have a really tough job. Yes, it is a job. You can't compare what the typical wage is for a worker vs. one of these girls working. Honestly, if we were one of these girls working in one of these clubs we would charge as damn much as we could get as well. Just something to think about...