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Inflation is almost zero in Argentina. Rise is chica-prices is due to an increased tourism/ foreigner mongering.
The prices for chicas where very low 2002-2003 but now they have reached their "normal" level. The Argentine economy has stabilised. There still exist inflation, but it is due to secondary-factors like taxes, increased costs for imports etc.. The important thing is that the underlaying inflation in the economy is at a level that predicts almost pricestability. This is at an macroeconomic level. But it should follow that prices for personal services, which are mainly exposed to the Argentines', like restaurants, taxi, sex etc..should be stabilised.
Mongers should consider the above basic facts. But chica price might have risen for tourists as an effect of our much more frequent visits to Argentina since the devaluation. Our respond to this must be to join the local boards at Yahoo and Bairesgirls(...and maybe there are more of thoose). I have followed the boards at Yahoo and Bairesgirls and I can not agree with the idea that the prices continue to rice. Macroeconomic facts still tells us that the unemployment rate is very high and that wages do not increase much at all. Fellow mongerers- DO NOT PANIC. Argentina seems to have gained pricestability at an exchange-level that is very favourable for foreigners. Look at http://www.indec.gov.ar/ for more information.
My advise for not going right into tourist traps are;
1. Learn spanish at least basic level.
2. This will bring you a new dimension of the mongering scene in Baires which gives you access to the information how to find young good looking girls at prices still very low.
Chicas have learned through the Latin Chica Network to pull up prices for foreigners. With the right information you can aviod the most obvious tourist traps.
I hopes this helps,
Decamerone
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Saint,
you said >>>That's why I don't consider myself a good candidate for ever getting married.<<<
oh no!! don't say that!! I have (among everyone else here) have the same problem!!!:)
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I agree with you all who have said that the quality is decreasing in BA. My first trip 2.5 years ago, I was walking around with my mouth hanging open. But now, the girls you settle for were the ones you wouldn't give the time of day to before. There were much hotter girls around. Sure you can still find the occassional 10, but it's far and few in between. What has kept me coming was that it was cheap compared to other places in the world. But know, with the price creep, high flight prices, higher hotels, etc, etc. It's just not what it once was. My tastes run toward the European ideal of beauty. And many places in Europe are a good alternative again. What with the bar fee and the 300 pesos price, that's about as much as an hour with a absolutely hot girl in Edinburgh who would be just as friendly and wild. In fact the wildest girls I've been with have been Scottish. The only part that sucks is that it's fun to hang around BA while not in bed. Scotland, is a little less exciting.
I'm thinking about going to Rio this time instead. I've never been there before and from what the people say in the Rio thread, it's still reasonable.
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JustgotBack,
Yep. I've always been straight. The sex scene in BA is not the greatest anymore. It's still good but not what it was. That's the God's honest truth. I also consider the European bombshell type to be the most beautiful girl.
Rio sex scene beats BA hands down. No questions. Especially with the termas. The internet girls in Rio are not as good, IMHO but you have Help Disco which can be pretty amazing but I hear that prices have crept up there too.
Europe is expensive but there still is some value in places like Prague where I found some hot girls in apartments. Lugano, Switzerland is a very expensive town but had some of the hottest girls out of any club I've been to in the world. Many Brasileras and girls from Russia, Hungary, Czech Republic, Colombia, Italy and even Argentina. I loved the variety. I posted a trip report in that section. But it isn't the city you go to if you're only looking for sex.
BA is still BA though. There will always be some action here but I think the glory days from right after the devaluation are gone forever. While everyone is complaining about the prices for sex here the hottest girls are still leaving because they can make much more in other places.
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Beating the Golden Goose to Death,
Just don't blame me for any of the girls leaving. I always pay the the fair market price ( maybe 25 u.s. more a pop ). All this nickel and diming by so many posters here has helped to ruin the market. So many of you who are beating these girls down for a few pesos have been killing it for the rest of us. It works both ways. I am so sick and tired of reading about how cheap someone paid to get laid. You make US look like the cheap whores. For those still chasing price all the time, Bangledesh is wide open for you.
A little more generousity would keep more girls in town but most of you are just to stupid to think ahead.
In Italy they have a nickname for you're type
" SHIT FOR BRAINS "
Starfe
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Hi, Guys:
I'm not going to be in Buenos Aires from September,23rd to October,5th.
So for the translation service/ the appointments with the girls, you'll need to contact Mayra at MY CELL. PHONE: 155 103 3905, I will leave it with her.
You can email me, I will check my emails once a day. But for appts. while I'm not there it will be better for you to call Mayra at my cell. phone directly.
Kisses, Roxana.
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Starfe:
I don't think that girls looked for greener pastures because of foreigners bargaining. Visitors still encomprise a very small fraction of mongers, being the locals the mainstream source.
Andres
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Andres,
On my flight back in July there were 8 guys in first class who went down on a hunting trip for birds. All big dollar guys who were pullling girls out of Blacks and the other joint ( 2 or 3 per person ). They make this trip 4 times a year. A lot of it has to do with the girls. These are not posters . I would not under estimate the buying power of the visiting foreigner. This was just 1 group. I assume there are many more like them coming from the United States. I would like to think that helps to balance out those that pay per minute. You need the high rollers in every city. It also keeps the girls off balance knowing they could hit a jackpot at any given moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a side note; I used to watch my father buy me callgirls at the Desert Inn in Vegas while he played Bacarat. I was a mere 18 at the time ( 69-72 my college years ). Now that's what I call shopping.
I just used to " point and click "
Starfe
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Starfe,
You are right about the need for high rollers: it works out the same in any society. I have sat amongst some real players: serious money, on a flight to Paris so I know what you mean. There are pros and cons here, but in the final analysis people will spend what they want. One mans $50 is another mans$5 and so the world turns.
Whilst at college, my father brought a pack of condoms for me and asked me if I knew what they were and how to use them. He added that all he wanted me to bring back form college was my education: grandchildren could wait. You are one lucky man with a father such as yours!
Regards,
Havanaman
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". . . All this nickel and diming by so many posters here has helped to ruin the market. So many of you who are beating these girls down for a few pesos have been killing it for the rest of us"
Paying $50,000 for a car with a $25,000 list price isn't being generous. You are merely viewed as a "Chump" by the salesman and instead of generating respect and appreciation, you get more distain. What most people suggest here is to know the market and the going market price. Be fair, but over-paying makes little sense and I have seen it lead to worse service and attitude. As Jackson and others have pointed out repeatedly, there is no real connection between price and service. The under 100 peso girl is just as likely to provide great service as a 300 peso girl. The "Rich American Chump" or Sugar-Daddy syndrome is worse for the vast majority of mongers than being too cheap. Try to use a little charm, personal attention and a fair market price instead of relying only on a fat wallet. The results are usually better . . . Just my 2 cents.
Peace -P
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I agree with Andres. I know some of these girls leaving for greener pastures. As Andres mentioned, the action here is still mainly comprised of locals. Look at places like Rio with TONS of tourists and still the hottest girls are going to Europe. They want EUROS and US$ not Pesos or Reals.
I somewhat agree with Prokofiev but I disagree when he says it's like "paying $50,000 for a car with a list price of $25,000". Sex isn't like that. It's more like buying a diamond with no set price tag. The diamond is worth only as much as someone will pay. Some know the ins and outs of buying a diamond and some don't. Some just walk into a store and buy it because they have the money while the smarter consumer will let the seller of the diamond know that it's overpriced and try to reach a fairer price.
Girls are realizing what they are worth in other parts of the world. That's all. They realize they can invest $1,000 in a flight to Europe or Mexico and can maybe make that make in 1-2 days then make big money. These girls here don't need a visa to visit Europe so it's very easy for them. I just talked to two more girls I know that are heading to Spain in a month. Honestly, I don't blame them. It's like us. Would you stay in the same city if you knew you could go to Europe, do the same exact job you are doing here (maybe even easier there since sessions are VERY quick) and you would make 4/5/6 X your salary?? I doubt it. Think objectively and subjectively when you think about all of this. Not just how much more YOU are paying.
Too many guys look at the hobby as Me, me, me. Think of things more in terms of what would you do if you were the girl. It will help you understand them more. All you guys think that these girls are making "easy money". They probably have the toughest job in the world. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We are all not Prince fricking charming. Most of us have sisters or daughters. So needless to say we wouldn't want to see them doing this profession because it's NOT as easy as guys make it appear. These girls are angels for doing what they are doing.
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The quality of girls in Buenos Aires is extremely poor and everybody should stay away. Go to México instead. The girls there are much better looking and a much better value.
Just my opinion.
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DH,
Must be difficult to talk with your tongue stuck in your cheek that way.
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Saint,
"I somewhat agree with Prokofiev but I disagree when he says it's like "paying $50,000 for a car with a list price of $25,000". Sex isn't like that. It's more like buying a diamond with no set price tag. The diamond is worth only as much as someone will pay. Some know the ins and outs of buying a diamond and some don't. "
But the point of the WSG Forum is to EXPLAIN the ins and outs of buying a "diamond". That's one of the most useful things here - it establishes the fair market value in each location by comparing what each guy paid. Information is power. Yes, there IS a set price tag -more or less- on each "piece" and we are here to reveal that oh-so-important bit of secret info.
What costs DickHead 100 pesos might cost me 150 because I'm not going to cook dinner or use a vibrator and it might cost another guy 200 cause he doesn't speak Spanish or bargain. That's cool. But when someone grossly overspends after reading this forum, he's not helping himself or his fellow mongers. And especially not the local guys who can't compete. And worst of all, instead of looking generous, you can wind up looking like a target or a "mark" to the girls.
Starfe,
"For the record my sister and my mother were both working girls at 1 time or another"
"I used to watch my father buy me callgirls at the Desert Inn in Vegas while he played Bacarat. I was a mere 18 at the time . . ."
Does that mean what it sounds like?? You had one hell of a childhood . . .
Peace -P
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Prokofiev,
The mother - sister part was over the top but not the Vegas part.
You are right about being at a major disadvantage by not speaking spanish. That makes my negotiating skills nil if they speak very little english. Time is a major constraint, so I am not willing to walk away from a nice piece of tail for that reason. I have certain goals in mind on every trip.
85% of the girls i see on any given trip are from Area - vip ONLY. All are booked through the front desk at Loisuites. I love that staff.
Starfe