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[QUOTE=Tiny12;426451]When someone intentionally tries to mislead people, I consider it just as bad as an outright lie.[/QUOTE]Esten is NOT built of the kind of stuff that could even comprehend the "real truth" in your statement dude. I arrive in BA late next week. If you are in BA the first beer is on me! WELL SAID. BRAVO!
Monger on TinyDude. Toymann
From liberal yahoo tonight. Just the opening except."President Barack Obama's campaign on Monday tried to tamp down expectations for his debate performance against Mitt Romney, and acknowledged that the former law professor needs to learn to shorten his answers."
Translation. Get ready for Romney to rip Obomanation to shreads in the debates. Head-to-head, we all know what will happen. Substance kicks bullsh*t's ass everytime. Hope we can get it in Argentina. I can hardly wait. This will totally drive Esten and WT69 crazy. Like a maggot on a rabbit chop, Romney will simply take pee wee herman and expose him for what he is! You heard it here first dudes. Happy Mongering All. Toymann
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 426445]He paid 13% taxes.
I paid 38.[/QUOTE]Okay, but I bet his check had a lot more zeros on it, and that's what counts.
Besides, if you don't like the fact that capital gains on investments is taxed at 15%, then lobby your congressmen to change the tax code, but don't expect Romney or anybody else to idiotically pay more than the current tax code specifies.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE]"Leaked video of Republican nominee Mitt Romney at closed-door fundraisers show him saying that 'no matter what' he does. 47 percent of the population is going to vote for Obama because they 'are dependent upon government. ' Tonight in California, Romney did not back down from what he had said."[/QUOTE]Hey WT,
This Romney quote is entirely accurate.
47 percent of the population is going to vote for Obama because they are dependent upon government.
What I don't understand is why you think that stating this fact is somehow detrimental to Mitt Romney?
Really, I'd like to know.
Thanks,
Jackson
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and / or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Romney wins!
Hands down!
TL
Dependent on the Government, that is.
Almost more than half the 47% are White.
Blacks are only 12%.
By the Way I am like Romne,y my Taxes are Secret. But I did pay more than him.
[QUOTE=Jackson; 426455]Hey WT,
This Romney quote is entirely accurate.
47 percent of the population is going to vote for Obama because they 'are dependent upon government.
What I don't understand is why you think that stating this fact is somehow detrimental to Mitt Romney?
Really, I'd like to know.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
Romney's latest gaffe has just gone to show what I have said all along: Romney is an out of touch Wall Street slimebag who has no empathy for those who are not in his financial class. His "47%" commentary along with the later released commentary on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have essentially made him UNELECTABLE in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia at this point.
Actually it is 46%, not 47%.
Here is the break down on who those are:
[url]http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/1001547-Why-No-Income-Tax.pdf[/url]
The map shows what states paid little or no Taxes. Red means None. Blue pays a little. Yes the map is old, but I am sure it is about the same as today.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 426462]Dependent on the Government, that is.
Almost more than half the 47% are White.
Blacks are only 12%.
By the Way I am like Romne, why my Taxes are Secret. But I did pay more than him.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;426464]Romney's latest gaffe has just gone to show what I have said all along: Romney is an out of touch Wall Street slimebag who has no empathy for those who are not in his financial class. His "47%" commentary along with the later released commentary on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have essentially made him UNELECTABLE in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia at this point.[/QUOTE]Hey SOS,
I understand that you and Esten will categorize everything Romney says as a "gaffe", but we all know it's just spin.
Anyway...
The Romney quote is entirely accurate.
[i]"47 percent of the population is going to vote for Obama because they are dependent upon government."[/i]
What I don't understand is why you think that stating this fact is somehow detrimental to Mitt Romney?
In other words, how exactly does this fact make Romney unelectable anywhere?
It can't be because the statement would embarrass the little piggies feeding at the government trough, because these leaches are obviously not embarrassed by their own failures as they long ago sold their dignity and their freedom along with their vote to the liberal Democrats who promised to continue giving them other people's hard-earned money. The 47% of the country who is taking a government handout isn't now and never was going to vote for Romney.
And it can't be because the 53% who are working to support these leaches would find some motivation in this statement to vote against Romney, because they're the ones getting fucked by the leaches and Romney is their only hope for keeping these leaches under control.
Thanks,
Jackson
WT69 the fact that the 47% of folks who don't pay taxes are more likely to vote for Obama is news?
The fact that those folks receiving funds / support for the government are more likely to vote for Obama's handout bandwagon is news?
About the only thing I can see as news worthy is the fact Romney is at least honest about it.
When Team Obama says he is a president who represents ALL the people I guess they are referring to the fact he is trying to fleece the money from the 53% who pay taxes so he can give it to the 47% who don't. I guess you could call that "representing" all the folks.
I agree completely with Jackson. What we respect is someone who tells it the way it is. Romney with his ' Obama and his supporters are a bunch of lazy, shiftless freeloaders dependent on welfare' was telling it like it is. I for one, appreciate straight talk. And I think you would be surprised how many other people appreciate straight talk.
[quote]Hey SOS,
I understand that you and Esten will categorize everything Romney says as a "gaffe", but we all know it's just spin.[/quote]I am wondering SOS stand for. I can think of several possibilities.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 426469]WT69 the fact that the 47% of folks who don't pay taxes are more likely to vote for Obama is news?
The fact that those folks receiving funds / support for the government are more likely to vote for Obama's handout bandwagon is news?
About the only thing I can see as news worthy is the fact Romney is at least honest about it.
When Team Obama says he is a president who represents ALL the people I guess they are referring to the fact he is trying to fleece the money from the 53% who pay taxes so he can give it to the 47% who don't. I guess you could call that "representing" all the folks.[/QUOTE]First of all I bet the plurality of non-income tax payers do not vote given 62% turnout in the 2008 election. Second senior citizens more likely to have social security as their sole income and they vote in higher numbers than the rest of us. Senior citizens are more likely to vote for Romney than Obama. It might even be worth a proposition bet that Romney carries the 47% if someone gave big enough odds. People are so adamant about this issue you might be able to sucker someone by saying Obama will carry the 47% by less than 10% and give you 10 to 1 odds. I don't know the outcome but I would like to see the stats on this one. Maybe Sydney could structure a sure proposition bet winner.
A lot of those people are working, but are in the poverty level so they do not pay Federal Taxes, but pay taxes on what they buy.
I heard what the break down of the 46% was, which is in part, is in my earlier post.
I will post the complete break down later, unless you feel like looking it up yourself. Then I don't have to repeat myself.
Thanks.
Also if you look at the Chart I posted you will see that the Red states do not pay Taxes are mostly Republican. And the Blue are Swing states; half Republicans.
In other words the Republican states do not pay enough to the people for them to pay Taxes.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger; 426469]WT69 the fact that the 47% of folks who don't pay taxes are more likely to vote for Obama is news?
The fact that those folks receiving funds / support for the government are more likely to vote for Obama's handout bandwagon is news?
About the only thing I can see as news worthy is the fact Romney is at least honest about it.
When Team Obama says he is a president who represents ALL the people I guess they are referring to the fact he is trying to fleece the money from the 53% who pay taxes so he can give it to the 47% who don't. I guess you could call that "representing" all the folks.[/QUOTE]