MONGERS! Really? Can't we find a better monicker than that?

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I try to be a gentleman, and I may visit a massage with happy ending, and maybe more, but it is just a way of having a date that you know will finish the way you'd like.

Why Monger? That is a name like we are attacking them. Shoot, we are just having a relationship with them that deals with money.

If you have a wife or girlfriend, most likely your relationship also often revolves around money. So ya know, we aren't some dark, evil guys. So can't we find a better monicker (name) for us?

Oh, you know, this is pretty harmless. I agree that one can find definitions of "monger" that don't sound so great, like this from Merriam Websters dictionary: "A person who attempts to spread or stir up something, that is usually pretty discreditable--usually used in combination <war-monger>"

But its common use by those of us who "practice the hobby" is as an abbreviated version of the word "whoremonger", defined in various dictionaries as synonymous with "whoremaster".

And "whoremaster", as per yourdictionary.com, is defined as: " (Archaic) a man who has sexual intercourse or associates with whores".

Who can argue?

I personally prefer the terms "sport fucking" and "sport fucker".

Interesting thought. This did occur to me too. I prefer the moniker " Connoisseur d'amor" or "Un Querido". Its true, "Monger" reminds one of the word "Mongrel", a half bred cur belonging to the bottom of the pecking order in all of natures creations, not the polished urbanites we all profess (and occasionally believe! To be.

Ken

I love my sports. I second Jackson.

[QUOTE=Ken Brown]Interesting thought. This did occur to me too. I prefer the moniker " Connoisseur d'amor" or "Un Querido". Its true, "Monger" reminds one of the word "Mongrel", a half bred cur belonging to the bottom of the pecking order in all of natures creations, not the polished urbanites we all profess (and occasionally believe! To be.

Ken[/QUOTE]"Querido" comes closest to "one who is loved". Or "mi querido," which means "the one I want," or loosely "my love".

It might be better to use "queriendo," or "querendo," which comes closer to meaning "the one who wants" or "the one who loves".

The American Heritage Dictionary (New College Edition, 1975) defined "monger" as (1) a dealer in a specific commodity (such as "ironmonger"); (2) a person promoting something undesirable (such as "warmonger") And yes, "whoremonger" is defined as "a fornicator"; whoremaster as "one who consorts with whores; a fornicator".

Our hobby is not well-regarded in "polite society." Are we surprised? Then how can we be surprised that the labels for our hobby are, shall we say, less than compliments? "Polite society" would properly see us married-off, and suffering the slings and arrows of the matrimonial condition; or seeking a mate to marry, and suffering THOSE slings and arrows.

I, for one, would rather buy the milk than buy and keep the cow. I'm not offended to call myself a "monger," even if it does sound like "mongrel." There are young ladies' mothers, no doubt, who regard me as a "cur" because I don't come tipping my hat to them and cravenly craving the privilege of courting their overweight, over-"privileged," self-important daughters. (But yeah, "sport-fucker" is a more pleasant if "obscene" term!)

[QUOTE=Big Travel Guy] the word "whoremonger", defined in various dictionaries as synonymous with "whoremaster".[/QUOTE]So, then, we could start calling ourselves "masters"!

Silly.

Makes me think of some 17th century Dutch guy doing a painting. Although, I bet those guys got a lot of pussy, too.

An alliterative phrase sometimes used in U. K. Is C#nt Hunter. This may be seen by many as rather crude but how about "Pussy Pursuers?" or, more relevant to S. America, "Chica Chasers!"

Regards,

Hotman

[QUOTE=Hotman 666]An alliterative phrase sometimes used in U. K. Is C#nt Hunter. This may be seen by many as rather crude but how about "Pussy Pursuers?" or, more relevant to S. America, "Chica Chasers!"

Regards,

Hotman[/QUOTE]The prevailing nomenclature or vernacular in the UK for a monger is "punter." While still being a pejorative term, it is a little more polite than the aforementioned term. This idiomatic expression can also refer to a gambler, speculator, beginner (as in rookie-type) or other form of dolt.

There is a monger herein that contains this term within his moniker.

Strictly speaking monger means a seller of certain goods. Hardware sellers were ironmongers, fresh fish shopkeepers were and are fishmongers and the boss of a brothel was a whoremonger. People who told tales were gossip-mongers. So rather than being the sellers of poon tang, we are instead the buyers, but as Shakespeare wrote, 'A rose by any other name still smells as sweet'.

Argento

Pussy Connoisseur.

It's the only time I wanted to be PC my entire life;-)

Sysco

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye]The prevailing nomenclature or vernacular in the UK for a monger is "punter." While still being a pejorative term, it is a little more polite than the aforementioned term. This idiomatic expression can also refer to a gambler, speculator, beginner (as in rookie-type) or other form of dolt.

There is a monger herein that contains this term within his moniker.[/QUOTE]Near enough WW. As we know in this sport of ours (punting) even with the help of boards like this, there is a huge element of chance and unpredictability involved. It seems to me that punter (I. E gambler or speculator, naive customer) is a much better term than monger. The most popular UK prostitute reviewing board is [url]www.Punternet.co.uk[/url].

By the way Hotman, I have never once heard anyone use the rather ugly term "c**t-hunter".

[QUOTE=El Caballero]Why Monger? That is a name like we are attacking them. Shoot, we are just having a relationship with them that deals with money. [/QUOTE]Personally, I've grown rather fond of "monger". It is rather off-putting at first. Kind of sounds low class. But, you can get accustomed to it. "Fellow mongers" sounds better to me than "fellow sport fuckers" or "fellow c*nt hunters." Also, it gives rise to phrases like "gentlemonger", or "monger on, dude."

Punter also works, but that seems more English and genteel to my ear -- sort of like drinking tea with your pinkie out.

Am pleased to finally confirm what I have been theorising for ages. Gentlemen that are open to / frequent places that are supposedly of ill repute (and I refer to the puritanical sense of the term) and are possessing of the gall to discuss this in a perfectly sensible way, are quite more the level headed and (dare I say) intellectually honest breed of an ever dwindling number of cads ('cads' in the sense of Mr. Doolittle, from 'My Fair Lady', for those who are familiar with this film)

Quite the contrast with the stuffy, correct and 'WASP'y folks that have smoldering fires within, but represent serene lakes outside.

In my emotive mood, so forgive the hyperbole.

Ken

[QUOTE=Lysander]Near enough WW. As we know in this sport of ours (punting) even with the help of boards like this, there is a huge element of chance and unpredictability involved. It seems to me that punter (I. E gambler or speculator, naive customer) is a much better term than monger.[/QUOTE]Ours is a game of speculation, anticipation, disappointment and elation (along with a few other words ending in -tion)

[quote=] The most popular UK prostitute reviewing board is [url]www. Punternet. Co. Uk[/QUOTE]I intentionally left that gem out. While I have happily navigated many moons (not the kind in the sky) in London, particularly around Shepherds Market thanks to PN (anybody remember Barbie (I forget the West London neighborhood but she was a legend); AP has provided me with much, much more.

"Punter" - that sounds good.

I brought all this up, because what we do is similar to regular dating. Some men want an actual partner to share their life with, but all of us want to find someone who will give us sex.

If you want a woman for sex, and are not planning on trying to find a life-partner, who could read the following and choose to be a regular date?

Gets ready for the date / night-out:

Monger & regular date both shower and get clean. However the regular dater has to possibly spend money to make sure he has the right outfit to impress ($$$) Monger, if he reserves a chica he knows is good, sets aside 150 pesos for a night he is almost 100% assure will have a happy-ending. The regular date may set aside 60 pesos for meal, 20-40 for entry to fancy club, 20-40 for drinks & tips just for self, 40-80 for drinks & tips for the girls he tries to entertain, 10-20 for the rose you buy to impress, 40 more just for taxi or something else you will probaby have to buy for her.

We choose a place to checkout for ladies:

Monger looks on the sites for chicas & regular dater checks out the bar.

We look for our type:

Monger looks on the sites and picks a girl & regular dater scopes out the bar until he finds someone who MAY not shut-him-down.

We start the connection:

Monger calls or emails until one of his choices is available or just stops by a location and takes his chances & regular dater buys her a drink, asks her to dance or makes small talk.

The attempt for intimacy:

Monger arrives and is treated like a king, by a girl in almost no clothes, she doesn't ask him 'where have you been!', or say 'I don't like your friends', or 'did you pay the phone bill'. Etc, and she takes him straight to a cozy room where she is happy to see him, focuses on him, and makes him feel her top priority, then she massages him and gives him great sex.

The regular dater, after failing to connect with several girls that evening or several evenings in a row, finally listens to enough crap and works hard enough to get a girl interested (he may have had to settle down a level of looks he'd have preferred not to) so he tries to get her to go to a temp hotel or back to his place. 2 out of 4 says no. But maybe he'll get a kiss (whoopee)

The follow-up:

Monger finishes and pays, and tips well, so that he can return and to make it a happy good-bye, because he chooses to. He never has to see or talk to her again and he can call her for another get together whenever he wants without any awkward feelings or worry of rejection.

The regular date, finally got lucky - the girl was so-so and now she either 1) doesn't want to leave and she is not someone he feels a connection to - and she keeps calling and calling like a crazy *****, or 2) he wants to see her again and she might make it seem like she is interested but never returns calls or she definitely didn't like being with him and rejects him immediately from calling ever again, or 3) neither one of you enjoyed being together and there is an awkard end to the good-bye.

Which one of the Monger actions makes us sound more evil, or more like a predator than the regular dater? Neither - hence why I don't like "Monger". In fact, the females are in the cruel and Monger'ish role in a regular date scene. The manner of western dating and men's inability to be in control of the situation causes the need to Monger & a lot of the negative crap you see on TV / Movies about dating - think about it.

Which made us sound like were out for just sex more? - Neither - trust me. Even nice guys, almost always have just one thing on their mind when they go out - No it's not necessarily "TONIGHT I MUST HAVE SEX" - but it is almost always the desire for "I REALLY WANT INTIMACY (which could just be intense kissing, touching, and passion) AND A WOMAN TO MAKE ME FEEL SHE IS INTO ME".

My point is, we are just being guys, when we are called "Mongers". We are just guys who are lucky enough to be in a financial situation and location to pay for a more direct approach at what we all want. Heck, I even "like" the girls I am with. I'd help them if I wanted to and be their friend. But IF I WANTED TO. See I am no longer required to do so, just to get what I want from her. It's kind of like a tax payer who pays all his bills and a welfare recipient. I am made to help that person, when I'd rather it be a choice.

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I have to admit I always liked the term "Hobbyist" !

Butthole Surfers.

I've always preferred the term "[I]Sport Fucker[/I]" or "[I]Sport Fuckers[/I]".

Jax.

[QUOTE=Doggboy;439842]Butthole Surfers.[/QUOTE]That stinks.

Tres3.

In English I'm a fucking monger. In Spanish a putañero. Call a spade a spade is what I say. I fucking love hookers and don't need to sugarcoat it.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439848]In English I'm a fucking monger. In Spanish a putaero. Call a spade a spade is what I say. I fucking love hookers and don't need to sugarcoat it.[/QUOTE]Butthole Surfers doesn't blow your hair back Daddy? I thought it might. ;)

[QUOTE=Doggboy;439849]Butthole Surfers doesn't blow your hair back Daddy? I thought it might. ;)[/QUOTE]But I had a couple experiences lately that have kinda put me off surfing the booties.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;439850]But I had a couple experiences lately that have kinda put me off surfing the booties.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that Daddy. A vocational hazard as it were.

[QUOTE=ElCaballero;411662]I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I try to be a gentleman, and I may visit a massage with happy ending, and maybe more, but it is just a way of having a date that you know will finish the way you'd like.

Why Monger? That is a name like we are attacking them. Shoot, we are just having a relationship with them that deals with money.

If you have a wife or girlfriend, most likely your relationship also often revolves around money. So ya know, we aren't some dark, evil guys. So can't we find a better monicker (name) for us?[/QUOTE]How about a Love Broker?

TL.