Envidia

[b]Envidia[/b] Rivadavia & Argerich (near Nazca) (in Flores)

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Envidia is located just off Rivadavia on Avenida Argerich in Flores. I don't know the street address. Just tell the cab the cross streets. Once you reach Argerich, coming from Centro on Rivadavia, look to your right. The club will be on the left side of Argerich about 2 or 3 buildings from the corner.

Entrance is 10p and you receive a large bottle of Bud. Chica services are 50p 1/2 100p hr. The place is much smaller than Doly's. It was fairly crowded with about 25-30 girls working. The quality of chicas, in my opinion, is better than both Affaire locations and Salome. A friend of mine, whose never been to the club, commented on the abundance of doable chicas. One girl who showed up late was a "Black" level chica. Every dude in the club was calling her over to get an up close look at this girl and her assets. I had just sessioned or I would have took her up for a spin.

I chose a girl with a killer ass. She was one of those Eastern European types with the black hair, short bangs, light skin look. Her performance was simply okay with no sparks flying. She got a little into it towards the end of the session, but was definitely not a GFE experience. I don't have any problem if the chica disconnects in this type of environment. This is the type of service that I've come to expect from these high volume clubs and apartments. That's what makes my experience over at Doly's so special.

Conversly, my buddy picked out a girl he wanted. He was walking over to the bar to feel her out when he bumped into another chica. He thought she was hot. He didn't try and chit chat with her, but just took her up to the room cold. He had a very enjoyable experience with this girl. I will try to pump him for more info about this chica. I talked with my girl for at least 15 minutes, and thought I had a good feeling about her. You never know what can happen at these sorta clubs. One thing I do like about both Clubs in Flores. If the girl turns out to be a dud your only out 50/60 pesos as opposed to 200-300p at the recoleta clubs. you can always ask a waiter who'se known for giving good service. I always forget to exercise this tip until I get subpar service.

Envidia has more hot women than Doly's (Doly's has more girls in total). The girls outfits are little skimpier than Doly's. There's something cool about seeing chicas walking around with their asses hanging out, especially when they are playing pool. However, my experiences with the NVidia girls (I think I've sessioned 6 times) has only netted 2 memorable experiences. Both of these places are at least a 20 minute cab ride from Recoleta. It will run you about 30p roundtrip. Its best to come with a couple of dudes to split the cabfare, and canvas the joints.

Later,

Judd

Judd,

Thanks for the info. Is this place a brothel with in-house rooms, etc or a club like Madahos? If its the former, sounds almost like a termas in Brazil.

" Chica services are 50p 1/2 100p hr."

Does this mean the prices are fixed? This would actually be nice.

Cheers.

Crypton

All the prices are set. The bang rooms are located off premise in a hotel next door. There's probably an ordinance against mixing alcohol with poontang within the city limits of BA!

Last night after dinner with Jackson and Capt Dave, two fellow mongers and I decided to visit Envidia in Flores. I had not been there before and it was on my list of new places to visit on this trip. Judd has recently done a detailed review of this place including address, entrance fee, setup, etc. so I won´t rehash those aspects of the place.

The first thing I noticed (after the skimpy outfits worn by the girls that don´t cover their asses) was that it is a very young local crowd. I was easily the oldest monger in the place. However, there were some very doable chicas as noted by Judd. Apparently the drill is that after you select your girl and buy her a drink, you have the option of taking her upstairs to an area where there are some sofas to chat and check out her assets before taking her to the “hotel” next door. If you decide to go next door you pay the girl upfront before you leave.

I selected arguably the sexiest chica in the place. Her name sounded like “Simena” although it is probably has a different spelling. She was 21, slim, about 5´7”, with a beautiful ass that was not covered by the little thing that she was wearing. She told me that she had only started there 4 nights previous. However, you never know what to believe with these girls. I paid her 100 pesos for the hour as 30 minutes isn´t usually enough time for me to get the job done being an older monger.

Anyway, we go next door, which is really about a half a dozen rooms directly above the Club as near as I could tell. There was a 20 minute lineup for the rooms. I saw 3 or 4 guys go into one of the rooms with one chica. Interesting. Finally it was our turn. To say that I was not impressed with the room would be an understatement It made the rooms at 1707 Sante Fe look upscale by comparison. It was filthy from all the traffic and was barely big enough to contain the double bed which I didn´t even want to lie on. The walls don´t go to the ceiling and are more like partitions. The advantage to this was that you could her the other chicas moaning as they were getting banged.

Unfortunately, I was not about to get any moans out of my Chica or anything else for that matter. Kissing was out of the question, the suggestion of oral on her horrified her, and she was reluctant to blow me even with a condom on. I pondered as to how I was going to fuck this chica without actually touching her. Anyway, I did figure out a way but I had to keep checking her pulse to see if she was still alive. It seemed that she was fixated with something on the ceiling.

After about 15 minutes of this I decided “no mas” and ended the session. I was a bit upset but this was my only bad experience on this trip and you know that you are going to have the occassional bad one. In fairness to her perhaps it was inexperience on her part after only a few nights on the job, but I suspect that being banged by the oldest guy in the place was less than inspiring for her. My companions had left and I was not about to complain management about the session, being less than fluent in Spanish and being alone in this area of town.

I was, however, in no mood to try out Dolly´s, which had been the original plan.

Chica seeker, we all have those experiences from time to time. I wouldn't worry too much about your age. It just depends on the girl. I am a younger guy, fairly good looking guy and I was after this chica with an amazing ass. I approached her and she was all stuck up and a few minutes later she went over to a table of a 70 year old guy. You should know in the bar whether the chica is interested in you or not. Don't take it personally because one girl didn't like you, it happens to all of us frequently no matter who we are.

Also I agree about the brothel rooms which are a little hardcore, but still usable. Its much better to use any of the love hotels (albergue transitorios) that are all over the place in Flores. You can ask the door man or the chica where one is, and usually it is in walking distance. They are much cheaper than the ones in Centro or Recoleta, usually 25 pesos/$8.

Envidia is a great place and my favorites cabaret/bar in Flores. The girls are absolutely amazing here, the prices are cheap and anything you want is on the table. I sometimes like to take out two or three girls to a love hotel for an hour (you can arrange for 150 pesos/$50 for two girls for an hour).

Buenos Aires in general is a city of great tits and ass, all of that pasta and beef they constantly eat goes to all of the right places, but in Envidia its magnified 5 fold. Many girls wear these hot as hell white, green or red tights with their asses hanging out. Often they'll play pool, bending over the pull stick right in front of you. There ain't no finer sight than hot, semi-naked chicas playing pool.

The only problem with Envidia, and the Flores clubs in general, is that the guys to chica ratio is not very good. On a busy night there might be 40 girls working in Envidia, but only 10 at any given time due to all of the guys constantly taking them out. It also makes getting the finest chicas a little difficult.

The best time to go to Envidia is on the slow nights, i.e. Sunday through Tuesday, or very early (11:30 PM or earlier) or very late (4:30 AM or later). Otherwise there will be 40 guys oggling over 10 chicas. On a Monday night at 12 AM you have your own personal harem of some of the finest girls in the city.

As far as the performance of the girls, it varies from girl to girl as always but in general I've had outstanding experiences. These girls know how to have sex, and seem to enjoy it greatly. However its always a good idea to avoid the girls fresh on the scene, as you get the kind of experience that Chica Seeker had. The best type of girls are not the fresh ones, nor the hardened pros, but the ones in between who are experienced and comfortable in what they are doing.

I went to Envidia days after Easter Sunday.
My taxi driver had a hard time finding the place even with correct address.
I pay 10 Peso entrance and get my large bottle of Bud, I see around 50 to 60 Local Argentine Men around 8 working woman sitting next to some men. More Men than woman.It was crowded not a place for me to sit so I stood by the bar looking at some of the ladies walk by. Which is worth 10 P to me.Thats why its so crowded. I love the skimpy outfits the ladies were thats why I came here. I do not speak spanish and it was challenging for me. One of the girls got the doorman to help me out, his english is as bad as my spanish.
Anyhow I got a lady for 100P. We go outside upstairs, and yes the dirty filthy bed sheets looks like have not been washed for a week and open roof so you could here everyone else doing there thing loud and clear. For 100p I got a 7 body 6 face and BBBJ and multiposition. The Community bathroom/shower looks well used the shower portion has cement floor like the kind in the street were car drives over.
The prices are fixed 10p entrance include bottle of bud. 100p for lady. I would like to try Dolys before coming back here but for 10p cant go wrong. Some doable working woman here.

Ive been remiss about carrying my camera about, but I promise to be more dilligent in the future. Envidia in Zona Flores 1/2 block from Rivadarvia and Guirno, on Guirno. 50 pesos the 1/2 hour or 100 the hour. For that price you can go upstairs in rooms where I'm sure 1000s have layed before you where suspiciously thin sheets cover a very tired looking mattress, or you can take the girl to a motel around the corner and pay 30 pesos for a the luxury of clean sheets, jucuzzi and no strange smell of musk.

Out of the 15 girls that were there 4 were smoking hot. by hot i mean 23 y/o uruguayan 34dd, 34 waist and very friendly and accomodating. tip the bar tender 2 pesos when she brings u your drink thats included in the 10 peso admission fee and ask her "QUIEN ES DE BUENA ONDA" or who gives good service. no one there spoke english.

Had great times at Envidia.

Found 2 girls that were some of the prettiest and nicest anywhere. One is 18, the other 19. Will post some pictures after some editing since they don't want their faces shown.

It's very nice to have multiple sessions with these nice girls and hang around the bar socializing with the local guys. They love to practice their English and will pour out their life story. The rooms upstairs are old and dirty but bar is very friendly and the whole place reeks of local flavors.

Argentinians are easily the nicest people you will find anywhere.

They also offered me a 20 minute, 40 peso visit. I didn't pull any chicas here, but did check it out last month when I did my tour of Flores.

I opened my boliche hopping at this establishment, very early by BA standards (11:30 PM)

I was really reluctant to visit a place like this because many boliches get jam packed on Fridays. However, due to being at the end of the month (people didn't cash their salaries yet) the place didn't get that busy by 12:15 AM.

As an early-bird fringe, entrance was free for me. Nice!

Very few things changed there from my last visit, for good or for bad (same decor, same girls but 1-2 new, and I'm talking 9 months ago. There were few girls in the premises, and more were coming, but same-old-same-old. Prices the same, too (ar$50 for half hour and ar$100 for the hour)

By 12:15, I left for Dolys.

Take-aways: There are 2 girls ho were new and doable (nice bodies, cute faces) One of them is a brunette misionera called Roxana.

May visit next week.

Hope this helps.

Andres

Andres,

As you probably suspected, 12:15 is just a tad too early to leave Envidia, especially on a Friday. If you had stayed until 1:00 I bet you would have seen a lot more talent.

When I went last week the taxi took a slightly different, but quicker, route using some smaller roads in Flores. That area is loaded with streetwalkers / cornerstanders if you're into that.

Envidia is apparently reading the notes in their suggestions box. Recently they began changing the sheets. Next improvement, raising the room dividers to actually be walls. Regardless, I give Envidia two thumbs up.

FYI, Envidia recently increased prices. I hadnt been there in several weeks. Cover is still p10 which includes one 500ml beer. 1/2 hour session up to p60 from p50. Additional beers up to p10 from p5. It looks like there may have been some management change there as I didnt recognize most of the doormen / bartenders - I used to know them all.

The chicas are mostly the same, but there are usually a couple new faces every time I go.

[QUOTE=Moore]Andres,

Envidia is apparently reading the notes in their suggestions box. Recently they began changing the sheets. Next improvement, raising the room dividers to actually be walls. Regardless, I give Envidia two thumbs up.[/QUOTE]Sheets? There was no sheet at all on the dirty matress in the partition that I used. The filth, the sounds other guys make, and the darkness, are all part of the experience.

What kind of bussiness people run a pig pen like that? And you guys should be willing to pay for a transatorio room, that is clean and has a nice shower. Dirty sheets dirty matress, how do you know who was on them before you. Is that one piece of ass, worth gone home with a case of body lice. I don't think I would want to hook up with any of those chicas knowing they screw under those conditions. Be smart go where its clean.

Sconjo USA

I went to Dolly's and Envidia on two occasions. The first night, there was a power outtage and Envidia was closed. We checked Envidia out on Friday. I'm sorry to report but there's been a dramatic shift in quality at Envidia. In the past, the chicas at Envidia were hotter than their counterpart but service was just okay. When we went into Envidia on a Friday night, arguably their busiest night, the quality was terrible. Only 1 doable chica in the entire boliche! As we're ditching this place, I caught sight of another doable chica. This was never the case in the past. The half dozen times I visited this place in the past, there was at least a dozen 7's and 8's. It's a damn shame this place has gone downhill. Talking with Moore, who has the numbers of a couple of the hottest and most popular chicas at the club, they were not working this Friday. He seems to think they are working at another club or have a steady stream of clients to service outside the club. Moore, keep abreast of the situation here. Avoid til the talent pool increases.

Doly's, on the other hand, had plenty of doable chicas. A funny thing happened on Wednesday night. I arrived with El Greco around 12 in the am. The place was jumping with a good dozen doable chicas. We have our beer and shue away the persistent 4 and 5's. We get down to calling over a couple of 7's and 8'. When all of a sudden the place empties of nearly all doable chicas. It was somewhat surreal. One minute we're like "okay, what about that one over there or the tall blonde by the lockers." Ala Gazaam, Bada Bing Bada Boom, there gone. I'm left with ½ bottle of warm Quilmes, a hardon, and about 20 4's and 5's! What's a horny monger to do? For me, I can't bang a chica in one of these places if I know she just finished with another dude, unless, it's another monger. I realize this is a stupid statement as they were probably getting banged before I arrive at the joint. Nevertheless, If I see a chica walking thru the front door and put her coat away, I check her off my list.

Luckily, I spot the one remaining hot chica. I quickly point at her and waive her over. She does the "who me" gesture. Yeah you, the lone hot chica, "Venga por favor." She's a little thin for my taste, but she is damn hot. El Greco even commented on how pretty she was. I think her name was Carina but don't quote me. She's pretty easy to spot because she's really tall. Both times I visited the place she wore a white 2 piece outfit. She's 22, has short black hair, alabaster skin, and a shamrock tattoo on the back of her shoulder. Again, can't say enough about her face, very attractive. She sits on my lap and we exchange pleasantries. After a few minutes of the "how old are you" and "when did you arrive" bs, I get a fairly good read on this chica and head upstairs wit her. 70P ½ hour.

In the room, she reveals a wonderful set of natural large be small C rack. I was also surprised to see a nice ass. Although it wasn't big, it had a nice round shape. Great BBBJ mixed with ball licking. I really enjoyed banging this chica in several positions. I go til the point of exhaustion. She's wondering why it's taking me so long to blow. I told her to be patient with me (as my cock is still in shock from being in sex prison for the past 4 months). If you haven't figured it out, I'm somewhat voyeuristic. I have her get in a really nice position so I can watch her play and lick her perky Nips. I'm still having trouble finishing when she asks me, "would you like to cum on tits?" Thank you Monger Gods! I think that's an absolutely smashing idea! It goes without saying, I had a great jerk all over her Ta's. Visions of marriage are quickly dashed as she heads upstairs with a Porteno about 5 minutes after we finished. Poor sap doesn't know he's getting trace samples of Judd's Jizz when he gets friendly with her boobies. Irony being, I'm probably a sap as well as some dude probably did the same thing to her before me. It is what it is!

So that was Wednesday night. On Friday night, we leave Envidia since it completely sucked! Doly's is even better than Wednesday night. We survey the scene, and I spot the hot blonde I wanted on Wednesday night before the mass exodus occurred. She is built for fucking! Another tall one with tits and ass. I don't waste any time and motion her over to our table. She comes over with 2 of her friends which are good quality. Maybe it's the blonde in her, but she comes over and sits on El Greco's lap. I feel like the guy in the movie who puts his arms out for the girl and she hugs the dude behind him. It's not a problem as El Greco knows I want this chica. He also said he wasn't going to session tonight (little did he know he would change his mind). I point upstairs and we're gone.

Her name is Liliana, and she is a baller! I'd say she's in her early 30's. Her tits aren't as perky as her counterpart, but has a killer full ass! Again, she's tall, and her body is perfectly porpotioned. I can't begin to describe how good in bed this chica was, but will do my best. Her CBJ was outstanding. I didn't mind the BJ being CBJ (she will BBBJ if asked no propina needed) as I probably would have nutted. Very energetic. I basically had to pull her off my dick. We start to go at it, and she really likes the hard bang. It's awesome, as I'm spanking her ass and she's spanking me back. She pulls me off the bed, positions herself by a wall, and sticks her ass out at me. Because she so tall, I have easy access to drill her hard from behind. Finish with a nice release. Forgot to mention, she only work Thu/Fri/Sat.

Another tremendous session with a chica from Doly's. That makes it 4 for 4 with me at this place. All 4 sessions I've had at Doly's have been fantastic ball busting experiences for me. I head downstairs and give the juicy details to El Greco. He admits, he doesn't like to monger late in the evening. However, his interest is peaked when I tell him Liliana is a nasty little fuck buddy. He talks with her to makes sure she will BBBJ. Not a problem. He tells me, "I'll be right back, I just want to get a nice BBBJ from her." I'm thinking to myself, there's no way he will just get a BBBJ from her. He'll lay some pipe. He comes back ½ hour later, flushed in the face. He's like "Rain Man". "Was the BBBJ good?" "Yeahh." "Did you fuck her?" "Yeahh." "Did you Nut?" "Yeahh." We left the place snickering like a couple of school kids playing hooky.

Another thumbs up for Doly's.

Late,

Judd

After Dolys, we visited Envidia.

ARS 10 entrance.

Many more doable girls than at Dolys. In fact, El Flaco and I spotted a nice girl whose name started with D. She would perfectly fit in any Recoleta club, since has perfect legs, a great butt and very nice face (although small tits) Unfortunately, she doesn't provide BBBJ, so no deal. ARS 60 for 30 minutes, ARS 100 the hour.

There were 2 or 3 more who were worth the try, but they were taken before I approached them. Too bad.

I will come back, for dure.

Left the place to visit Salomé

Andres

Thanks Andres,

I will go back for sure now. Envidia was much better than Dolys based on my visits there. Nice to hear that its doing well again.

I went there today at about 2 am. There were 9 chicas all but two were not even deserving of my time let alone my plata (dinero) The two that were I did like were also very popular with the other chicos, since I am not one to wait in line I made it over to Doly's. See Doly report. With all due respect to those that like Envidia, it all yours.

EG

[QUOTE=Judd] He tells me, "I'll be right back, I just want to get a nice BBBJ from her." I'm thinking to myself, there's no way he will just get a BBBJ from her. He'll lay some pipe. He comes back ½ hour later, flushed in the face. He's like "Rain Man". "Was the BBBJ good?" "Yeahh." "Did you fuck her?" "Yeahh." "Did you Nut?" "Yeahh." We left the place snickering like a couple of school kids playing hooky.

Another thumbs up for Doly's.

Late,

Judd[/QUOTE]Thank you for reminding me that evening. It was great fun.

El Greco

[QUOTE=El Grandote]I went there today at about 2 am. There were 9 chicas all but two were not even deserving of my time let alone my plata (dinero) The two that were I did like were also very popular with the other chicos, since I am not one to wait in line I made it over to Doly's. See Doly report. With all due respect to those that like Envidia, it all yours.

EG[/QUOTE]You may have caught it on a bad night. 2am is peak time and I'm guessing that the cream of the crop were upstairs fucking. The fuck area is often full, unlike many other boliches'. I always arrive about 11:30.

I've been into Dolys a few times and despite the large selection never saw anything shagable. So it may be a preferences issue.

I went there 2 weeks ago. Same prices as posted before.

There were many more girls than on Monday. After a little while, a very young girl came from the cloak room. Nice face and body, looking like a newbie (no "professional uniform", as if it was improvised at home) Curly hair, dark eyes but light skin, no more than 20 why / o. She promised BBBJ for a tip, so we went upstairs.

Although she didn't had the best technique (kind of newbie sign, too) she made me CIM and then she spread the semen over my body with her hand sayng "is good for your skin". Sticky but lovely.

Left happy, just ARS 90 (ARS 60 for the service + ARS 30 for the tip)

Hope this helps,

Andres

I visited Envidia recently after a long hiatus. There was a decent lineup of whoares and the prices are the same. Now they do a metal detector sweep on you at the door and they've lowered the lights inside. Harder to see.

Nothing else to report. Jacked a chica upstairs for p60. Yawn.

After the AMA dinner last night (Friday) Judd, CO2 and another guy (forgot your handle! Headed over to Alamo, where we didn't dally long. We then decided to hit Flores around midnight, although Judd warned us that we had perhaps missed out on the best chicas already.

It's a fairly long cab ride out to Flores, which isn't a bad neighborhood at all - probably a very typical middle-class area with lots of restaurants, bars, etc. On Ave. Rivadivia. In other words, there's no reason to fear going out there.

Anyway, we arrived at Envidia, paid our 10 pesos each to get in, and luckily found a table for 3 without problems. The cover gets you a Budweiser grande or a soft drink.

Well, there were a bunch of chicas, but nothing that CO2 or I were particularly excited about. However, a tall chica with a baseball cap tickled Judd's fancy. She wouldn't agree to a 1/2 hour, so he took her out and up for an hour. Was it only an hour? He might still be banging her. At that point, Co2 and I decided that we'd wait for him and then head over to Doly's.

Doly's was way too crowded with dudes. Virtually every chica was occupied, so the 3 of us headed back to Envidia (where the girls looked doable and were available) Judd took off to pursue other temptations, while CO2 and I just wanted to bang it out with the first decent chick we saw back at Envidia.

I talked the doorman out of charging us again, which, as CO2 pointed out, just meant that we'd have to buy a regular-priced drink. Ha ha. Fortunately we didn't have to bother. CO2 and I both found some prey quickly. Mine was a thin, fairly tall bleach blond, dumb as a post, with no titties whatsoever. In other words, not for everyone, but I value the tall and thin above other things. I bought her a cheap drink (20p) and took her upstairs for a test drive. Things looked promising so we agreed to the standard 1/2 hour for 70p. Oh, I told her I was 1/2 Japanese and 1/2 Venezuelan (good line, Judd) and she either really believed that or is a magnificent actress.

Then something a bit odd happened. The place was so packed that there was a freaking line to get a room! We sat there with her on my lap for a good 15 minutes while other dudes banged it out in the surrounding rooms with their chicas. I guess that's Friday night for you.

No need for a lot of details here - good CBJ (I didn't even ask for uncovered) really good sex, but colita was off limits. Her name is Maita (My-EE-tah)

Headed out, found a taxi quickly and had an interesting conversation about all things BsAs related with the veteran cabbie. He told me of the evils of prosititution and I just smiled.

Good post Slugfest. That was my first time at Envidia too. That was kind of humorous when we returned and grabbed chicas within two minutes of walking in the place. No chit chat necessary there. The chica I acquired, "Marlyn" was actually a pretty good performer with a nice thin body. I wanted the chica Judd had acquired earlier but just could not bring myself to it. She was definitely the hottest in the place. After paying for my chica and going upstairs, we went straight into a room and apparently had jumped in front of people waiting in line. Someone opened the door while we were engaged in activities and informed us, we apologized and laughed. Not too much privacy there! I think they never set the clock on us there so a half hour turned into almost an hour. Apparently, I think a light is supposed to go on when time is up. Total cost was 60p plus a 20p tip. Overall, it was good experience. They are open Sundays and Marlyn asked me to return. I'll return again but not on this trip. Oh, and those rooms are really awful.

Interestingly, I did not feel that that area was unsafe, it seemed very middle class, but my taxi driver asked me why I was out there and said that the area is "medio peligroso".

Tuesday night (1:00) was very quiet, as I arrived there were only 2 girls, but then there came about 6 that were up at the rooms. I didn't find the girls I've seen before, so I left for Nuevo Estilo (fortunately, I've found them there)

Spent a number of nights at Envidia early, with a follow up at Doly's. Overall I found more attractive girls at Doly's, but I liked the smaller club scene and less expensive services at Envidia. With that said, I probably had sex with about 6 or 7 different girls over the few nights I visited (I like to sample a couple of girls each time I visit) Most of the girls were in the 5-7 range. I usually showed up at 11 PM, but the place didn't really get going until after about 12 AM or 12:30 AM. However, a reasonable selection of girls was available even at 11 PM.

I paid 15 p entrance including one drink. Girls charge 60 p for 30 minutes and 100 p for one hour. Kissing, DATY, CBJ included. None of the girls pushed me for any drinks. The rooms, as mentioned, are basic. A very funny experience: every time I went up to a room next door, the girl handed me a little wash cloth and pointed me to the common bathroom. I did not really know what to do, so pretty much I just washed my hands each time (I suppose a gentleman would wash his dick) That towel is pretty small, though. They had a shower in the bathroom, but I really don't know who would use it.

I liked Envidia. Thanks for the forum members for sharing. Its easy enough to chat with the locals. One night I even played some pool.

Ak233

After Nuevo Estilo I took a cab to Envidia since I got tons of time to kill. Man it seemed really far from Nuevo Estilo. About 20 minutes to get there. Questionable area and kind of a neighborhood bar. I forgot how much entry as it is little and included a drink. I sit down by the pool tables and check the action. I compare this to like Orleans to Excedra. Both places don't have real stunners but like Excedra it is hard to find a diamond in the rough.

I sit down and the blonde waitresses who is really friendly says we have lots of nice girls. I said ok bring me one. She brings a blond over who face wise is a 5 but the brown roots on her hair and the sloppy body told me no. But I said do you suck dick like you are sucking on the lollipop. She says I suck on the lollipop to stay in practise. I say good cuz I only want a blowjob for 60 pesos. She goes she was only joking and doesn't really like to do it. I tell her to take a hike.

The waitress comes back over and says what happened and said I want somebody flaca and short and petite. She says that will be tough but will bring one if she finds one. I waited and then left.

This place not worth the trip for me.

So, to be completely honest, except for meeting up with a couple of my monger pals, my short time here in BA has totally sucked! My last night, I said, "fuck it!", and decided to take a ride out to the clubs of the Flores District. Once again, the tables have turned. Nvidia, once the redheaded step child to Dolly's has gotten in some hot young / middle aged sluts. Still 15p to get in and 60 for 1/2 hour. The place had a good 20-25 chicas and about the same amount of dudes. I did see about 3 stunners, and a good 10-12 chicas I would have no problem doing. Of course, there we're a few non doables, but the ratio was really good.

I broke from tradition and chose a little blonde spinner named Veronica. Veronica (30 years young) was a thin blonde in great shape who reminded me of my German ex-girl friend. Pretty easy to spot as there was maybe only 3 blondes in the place. She's the shorter one with a nice big nose, and a tight little ass! I had one of the waitresses call her over. She started to babble in Castelluano, and I simply pointed to the ceiling above where the fuck rooms are located.

In la cama, she was a good little fuck. She didn't have any titties but a great little semi-round ass. She gave a good albeit brief CBJ with ball washing, then sat on Junior Judd. At first, I was letting her control things, but sensed she wanted more. I pulled her little body close to mine and started to bang away. The hard bang was on. We switched positions and went at it doggy style. I must say I rather enjoyed hittin that tight little body of hers. I could tell she like this position as she reached around to grab my ass signaling me to pump harder. I obliged. I got her in the position where her ass was sticking in the air while the rest of her body lay on the bed. Man, that felt good and tight. It was great cuz as I would pump she let out a loud moan. Doesn't get much better than that for 60p. No reason to bang her missionary as she wouldn't have anything jiggling, plus I was nearly out of breath.

I'm in the worst shape of my life so I went into jerk mode. She helped me finish up with a nice jerk. It felt like we had fucked for the entire 30 minutes. I look at my watch, just past 15 minutes. What a sorry excuse for a monger I've become!

Anyways, Envidia is definitely heading back in the right direction. I would do this chica again if given the chance along with about a dozen others. Cab fare is not cheap probably 40p round trip from Excedra. Get a couple of dudes together and roll down there. Remember, to get there early so you can get the chicas while they're fresh out of the oven (10:30-11:00pm)

Later Gents,

Judd

There were about 15-20 girls. Rated between 5s and 8s. There quickly ended up an imbalance of about 2:1 guys to girls. Most of the girls would stick together and the end of the bar and chat and dance together. Others would be playing pool. If watching girls play pool is your thing, this would be the place to go. Just try not to sit on the stools next to the table. I saw one of the chicas playing pool almost knock somebody in the head with the pool cue. I was only approached by 1 chica. But she was not my type.

I finished my drink and watched the girls but nobody caught my attention. I ended up leaving. This place is small and ended up getting really smoky really quick. *cough cough*. I'd recommend you take your chica to the chairs upstairs if you want to have a drink with her if you like to breathe.

Fees I payed:

$20 Door / Drink (1 tall bottle of Budweiser)

A bunch of us mongers are getting together to go to Envidia or some other clubs in Flores, including Jackson, Punter etc. If anybody else is interested, Please show up at Exedra at 8 '0 clock Tonight.

SM

I had to visit this place after hearing that they upgraded their facilities. It seems that they now have rooms with real beds and private toilets.

I arrived there by 11:45 PM. Before entering I saw the new floor from the outside. I guess that there they have the upgraded facilities.

ARS 15 the entrance. By that time, only 10-15 girls, but as many arrived during the next hour.

I would say that 5 of them are fuckable. Some spinners, many of them Paraguayans and Dominicans. Setup and decoration downstairs remain the same, except that now they have a gorgeous waitress (I wonder if she would go upstairs) I liked a Paraguayan one called Karina, big butt, normal to small tits, naughty-looking face. Since I wanted to continue my search, I passed. Maybe another time.

Of all the boliches in Flores that I visited that day, it was clearly the better in terms of quality of girls.

Hope this helps,

Andres

IIRC 30p to enter now (as of Friday). 70p for a 20 minute session.

As I noted in another club review, it seems the chicas arrive en masse at about 12 now when I know it used to be 11pm. That was the hora clave when I always arrived - plenty of open space and you get to see the girls walking in in street clothes.

By 1230 there were about 12 girls, only one that turned me on. As noted below, the upstairs has been completely revamped and seems much cleaner. I didn't know any of the chicas from prior visits.

If Black Cubanas / Dominicanas are your thing there were a couple there thta night just as there always have been.

I will return midweek. BTW taxi from Recoleta is now 20p compared to 13p in 2006.

Envidias. Didn't go upstairs, don't remember how it used to be so can't comment on the rennovations. The girl told me I could take her upstairs or there was a motel down the block.

Thursday night, 20 girls, a few Dominicanas, one black girl with the most amazing booty who I would have jumped on in a New York minute but she was already taken. Sorry, I can't help it.

Place was packed with Argentines.

As I said in my Doly's report, worth a visit to go out to Flores and check out this place and Doly's.

Can't report on any of the other clubs in the neighborhood but I passed one on the way over from Envidia, can't remember the name, 2 blocks from Directoria, poked my head in and just continued on.

How is Envidia on Sunday? Dolys?

I am back in Buenos Aires and returned to Envidia. With the higher taxi prices, it now costs about 25 pesos from Microcenter to Flores. Since my last visit two years ago, the upstairs rooms have been updated. They now all have aircon, toilets, bidets, sinks, and a shower. You are still only given a little hand towel and a small bar of soap, so it is unlikely that anyone is really taking a shower, but I guess it is now possible. The rooms are still small, but have a mattress on a frame in each room. I doubt that any of the sheets are changed between clients.

The prices are a bit higher since my last visit. Entrance is 20 pesos and includes one drink. The girls charge 100 p for 30 minutes in a room. I am not sure of the hourly rate. There have been 15 to 20 different girls on the two nights I visited, most ages in their 20s, with solid 6-7s as the norm. True, I did not see any 8s or 9s, but then again I did not really seen any ugly, dirty, skanky, old, or fat girls either. Just a lot of nice clean-looking girls ready for sex. About 5 girls were black from the Dominican Republic. I was very happy with my experience here and plan to return. Some (but not all) will kiss on the mouth a little, DATY accepted by all of my choices, all were CBJ, didn't try cola or request it. There were girls here at 11 pm, with the place really going at 1 am or so. I like getting there early, as there is little competition for the girls. Almost no pressure to buy a drink for the girls, and they don't seem to care either.

Not sure why this place doesn't get more attention on this forum, I think it is an excellent venue for the budget minded monger. Never felt unsafe. The taxi ride kinda sucks, though.

Ak233

This could be old news, but I understand Envidia is closed. It seems that many of their girls are now working at Plays in Recoleta.

Anybody recognizes this chica who worked at Envidia? Sorry I don't want to show her face.

She's a nice, sweet, sexy young girl with a very pretty face, perfect lean body, unblemished skin, mi favorita in all BsAs. She beats the girls from clubs Madaho, Black, Solid Gold etc. By a very wide margin.

Anybody knows where I can find her now?

Update from the Spanish forum.

Algerich 34, at Rivadavia, Flores. 10+ Chicas. Prices: Cover 100 p, Chicas 360 p 30 min., 480 p hour, includes hotel. Tel: _ Hours: _.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;438390]Update from the Spanish forum.

Algerich 34, at Rivadavia, Flores. 10+ Chicas. Prices: Cover 100 p, Chicas 360 p 30 min., 480 p hour, includes hotel. Tel: _ Hours: _.[/QUOTE]Enigma?

It's just hard to figure out!

A faceless girl from YEARS ago?

Get real!

TL.