An older monger´s perspective
Last night after dinner with Jackson and Capt Dave, two fellow mongers and I decided to visit Envidia in Flores. I had not been there before and it was on my list of new places to visit on this trip. Judd has recently done a detailed review of this place including address, entrance fee, setup, etc. so I won´t rehash those aspects of the place.
The first thing I noticed (after the skimpy outfits worn by the girls that don´t cover their asses) was that it is a very young local crowd. I was easily the oldest monger in the place. However, there were some very doable chicas as noted by Judd. Apparently the drill is that after you select your girl and buy her a drink, you have the option of taking her upstairs to an area where there are some sofas to chat and check out her assets before taking her to the “hotel” next door. If you decide to go next door you pay the girl upfront before you leave.
I selected arguably the sexiest chica in the place. Her name sounded like “Simena” although it is probably has a different spelling. She was 21, slim, about 5´7”, with a beautiful ass that was not covered by the little thing that she was wearing. She told me that she had only started there 4 nights previous. However, you never know what to believe with these girls. I paid her 100 pesos for the hour as 30 minutes isn´t usually enough time for me to get the job done being an older monger.
Anyway, we go next door, which is really about a half a dozen rooms directly above the Club as near as I could tell. There was a 20 minute lineup for the rooms. I saw 3 or 4 guys go into one of the rooms with one chica. Interesting. Finally it was our turn. To say that I was not impressed with the room would be an understatement It made the rooms at 1707 Sante Fe look upscale by comparison. It was filthy from all the traffic and was barely big enough to contain the double bed which I didn´t even want to lie on. The walls don´t go to the ceiling and are more like partitions. The advantage to this was that you could her the other chicas moaning as they were getting banged.
Unfortunately, I was not about to get any moans out of my Chica or anything else for that matter. Kissing was out of the question, the suggestion of oral on her horrified her, and she was reluctant to blow me even with a condom on. I pondered as to how I was going to fuck this chica without actually touching her. Anyway, I did figure out a way but I had to keep checking her pulse to see if she was still alive. It seemed that she was fixated with something on the ceiling.
After about 15 minutes of this I decided “no mas” and ended the session. I was a bit upset but this was my only bad experience on this trip and you know that you are going to have the occassional bad one. In fairness to her perhaps it was inexperience on her part after only a few nights on the job, but I suspect that being banged by the oldest guy in the place was less than inspiring for her. My companions had left and I was not about to complain management about the session, being less than fluent in Spanish and being alone in this area of town.
I was, however, in no mood to try out Dolly´s, which had been the original plan.
Delayed report from Envidia days after Easter day.
I went to Envidia days after Easter Sunday.
My taxi driver had a hard time finding the place even with correct address.
I pay 10 Peso entrance and get my large bottle of Bud, I see around 50 to 60 Local Argentine Men around 8 working woman sitting next to some men. More Men than woman.It was crowded not a place for me to sit so I stood by the bar looking at some of the ladies walk by. Which is worth 10 P to me.Thats why its so crowded. I love the skimpy outfits the ladies were thats why I came here. I do not speak spanish and it was challenging for me. One of the girls got the doorman to help me out, his english is as bad as my spanish.
Anyhow I got a lady for 100P. We go outside upstairs, and yes the dirty filthy bed sheets looks like have not been washed for a week and open roof so you could here everyone else doing there thing loud and clear. For 100p I got a 7 body 6 face and BBBJ and multiposition. The Community bathroom/shower looks well used the shower portion has cement floor like the kind in the street were car drives over.
The prices are fixed 10p entrance include bottle of bud. 100p for lady. I would like to try Dolys before coming back here but for 10p cant go wrong. Some doable working woman here.
Envidia is full of local flavors
Had great times at Envidia.
Found 2 girls that were some of the prettiest and nicest anywhere. One is 18, the other 19. Will post some pictures after some editing since they don't want their faces shown.
It's very nice to have multiple sessions with these nice girls and hang around the bar socializing with the local guys. They love to practice their English and will pour out their life story. The rooms upstairs are old and dirty but bar is very friendly and the whole place reeks of local flavors.
Argentinians are easily the nicest people you will find anywhere.
Doly's versus Envidia: The Epic Boliche Battle!
I went to Dolly's and Envidia on two occasions. The first night, there was a power outtage and Envidia was closed. We checked Envidia out on Friday. I'm sorry to report but there's been a dramatic shift in quality at Envidia. In the past, the chicas at Envidia were hotter than their counterpart but service was just okay. When we went into Envidia on a Friday night, arguably their busiest night, the quality was terrible. Only 1 doable chica in the entire boliche! As we're ditching this place, I caught sight of another doable chica. This was never the case in the past. The half dozen times I visited this place in the past, there was at least a dozen 7's and 8's. It's a damn shame this place has gone downhill. Talking with Moore, who has the numbers of a couple of the hottest and most popular chicas at the club, they were not working this Friday. He seems to think they are working at another club or have a steady stream of clients to service outside the club. Moore, keep abreast of the situation here. Avoid til the talent pool increases.
Doly's, on the other hand, had plenty of doable chicas. A funny thing happened on Wednesday night. I arrived with El Greco around 12 in the am. The place was jumping with a good dozen doable chicas. We have our beer and shue away the persistent 4 and 5's. We get down to calling over a couple of 7's and 8'. When all of a sudden the place empties of nearly all doable chicas. It was somewhat surreal. One minute we're like "okay, what about that one over there or the tall blonde by the lockers." Ala Gazaam, Bada Bing Bada Boom, there gone. I'm left with ½ bottle of warm Quilmes, a hardon, and about 20 4's and 5's! What's a horny monger to do? For me, I can't bang a chica in one of these places if I know she just finished with another dude, unless, it's another monger. I realize this is a stupid statement as they were probably getting banged before I arrive at the joint. Nevertheless, If I see a chica walking thru the front door and put her coat away, I check her off my list.
Luckily, I spot the one remaining hot chica. I quickly point at her and waive her over. She does the "who me" gesture. Yeah you, the lone hot chica, "Venga por favor." She's a little thin for my taste, but she is damn hot. El Greco even commented on how pretty she was. I think her name was Carina but don't quote me. She's pretty easy to spot because she's really tall. Both times I visited the place she wore a white 2 piece outfit. She's 22, has short black hair, alabaster skin, and a shamrock tattoo on the back of her shoulder. Again, can't say enough about her face, very attractive. She sits on my lap and we exchange pleasantries. After a few minutes of the "how old are you" and "when did you arrive" bs, I get a fairly good read on this chica and head upstairs wit her. 70P ½ hour.
In the room, she reveals a wonderful set of natural large be small C rack. I was also surprised to see a nice ass. Although it wasn't big, it had a nice round shape. Great BBBJ mixed with ball licking. I really enjoyed banging this chica in several positions. I go til the point of exhaustion. She's wondering why it's taking me so long to blow. I told her to be patient with me (as my cock is still in shock from being in sex prison for the past 4 months). If you haven't figured it out, I'm somewhat voyeuristic. I have her get in a really nice position so I can watch her play and lick her perky Nips. I'm still having trouble finishing when she asks me, "would you like to cum on tits?" Thank you Monger Gods! I think that's an absolutely smashing idea! It goes without saying, I had a great jerk all over her Ta's. Visions of marriage are quickly dashed as she heads upstairs with a Porteno about 5 minutes after we finished. Poor sap doesn't know he's getting trace samples of Judd's Jizz when he gets friendly with her boobies. Irony being, I'm probably a sap as well as some dude probably did the same thing to her before me. It is what it is!
So that was Wednesday night. On Friday night, we leave Envidia since it completely sucked! Doly's is even better than Wednesday night. We survey the scene, and I spot the hot blonde I wanted on Wednesday night before the mass exodus occurred. She is built for fucking! Another tall one with tits and ass. I don't waste any time and motion her over to our table. She comes over with 2 of her friends which are good quality. Maybe it's the blonde in her, but she comes over and sits on El Greco's lap. I feel like the guy in the movie who puts his arms out for the girl and she hugs the dude behind him. It's not a problem as El Greco knows I want this chica. He also said he wasn't going to session tonight (little did he know he would change his mind). I point upstairs and we're gone.
Her name is Liliana, and she is a baller! I'd say she's in her early 30's. Her tits aren't as perky as her counterpart, but has a killer full ass! Again, she's tall, and her body is perfectly porpotioned. I can't begin to describe how good in bed this chica was, but will do my best. Her CBJ was outstanding. I didn't mind the BJ being CBJ (she will BBBJ if asked no propina needed) as I probably would have nutted. Very energetic. I basically had to pull her off my dick. We start to go at it, and she really likes the hard bang. It's awesome, as I'm spanking her ass and she's spanking me back. She pulls me off the bed, positions herself by a wall, and sticks her ass out at me. Because she so tall, I have easy access to drill her hard from behind. Finish with a nice release. Forgot to mention, she only work Thu/Fri/Sat.
Another tremendous session with a chica from Doly's. That makes it 4 for 4 with me at this place. All 4 sessions I've had at Doly's have been fantastic ball busting experiences for me. I head downstairs and give the juicy details to El Greco. He admits, he doesn't like to monger late in the evening. However, his interest is peaked when I tell him Liliana is a nasty little fuck buddy. He talks with her to makes sure she will BBBJ. Not a problem. He tells me, "I'll be right back, I just want to get a nice BBBJ from her." I'm thinking to myself, there's no way he will just get a BBBJ from her. He'll lay some pipe. He comes back ½ hour later, flushed in the face. He's like "Rain Man". "Was the BBBJ good?" "Yeahh." "Did you fuck her?" "Yeahh." "Did you Nut?" "Yeahh." We left the place snickering like a couple of school kids playing hooky.
Another thumbs up for Doly's.
Late,
Judd
Excellent experience with Nati - 05/11
I went there 2 weeks ago. Same prices as posted before.
There were many more girls than on Monday. After a little while, a very young girl came from the cloak room. Nice face and body, looking like a newbie (no "professional uniform", as if it was improvised at home) Curly hair, dark eyes but light skin, no more than 20 why / o. She promised BBBJ for a tip, so we went upstairs.
Although she didn't had the best technique (kind of newbie sign, too) she made me CIM and then she spread the semen over my body with her hand sayng "is good for your skin". Sticky but lovely.
Left happy, just ARS 90 (ARS 60 for the service + ARS 30 for the tip)
Hope this helps,
Andres
Trip Report: July 4th 2007
There were about 15-20 girls. Rated between 5s and 8s. There quickly ended up an imbalance of about 2:1 guys to girls. Most of the girls would stick together and the end of the bar and chat and dance together. Others would be playing pool. If watching girls play pool is your thing, this would be the place to go. Just try not to sit on the stools next to the table. I saw one of the chicas playing pool almost knock somebody in the head with the pool cue. I was only approached by 1 chica. But she was not my type.
I finished my drink and watched the girls but nobody caught my attention. I ended up leaving. This place is small and ended up getting really smoky really quick. *cough cough*. I'd recommend you take your chica to the chairs upstairs if you want to have a drink with her if you like to breathe.
Fees I payed:
$20 Door / Drink (1 tall bottle of Budweiser)
Want to go to Envidia tonight?
A bunch of us mongers are getting together to go to Envidia or some other clubs in Flores, including Jackson, Punter etc. If anybody else is interested, Please show up at Exedra at 8 '0 clock Tonight.
SM
Envidia Update November 2008
I am back in Buenos Aires and returned to Envidia. With the higher taxi prices, it now costs about 25 pesos from Microcenter to Flores. Since my last visit two years ago, the upstairs rooms have been updated. They now all have aircon, toilets, bidets, sinks, and a shower. You are still only given a little hand towel and a small bar of soap, so it is unlikely that anyone is really taking a shower, but I guess it is now possible. The rooms are still small, but have a mattress on a frame in each room. I doubt that any of the sheets are changed between clients.
The prices are a bit higher since my last visit. Entrance is 20 pesos and includes one drink. The girls charge 100 p for 30 minutes in a room. I am not sure of the hourly rate. There have been 15 to 20 different girls on the two nights I visited, most ages in their 20s, with solid 6-7s as the norm. True, I did not see any 8s or 9s, but then again I did not really seen any ugly, dirty, skanky, old, or fat girls either. Just a lot of nice clean-looking girls ready for sex. About 5 girls were black from the Dominican Republic. I was very happy with my experience here and plan to return. Some (but not all) will kiss on the mouth a little, DATY accepted by all of my choices, all were CBJ, didn't try cola or request it. There were girls here at 11 pm, with the place really going at 1 am or so. I like getting there early, as there is little competition for the girls. Almost no pressure to buy a drink for the girls, and they don't seem to care either.
Not sure why this place doesn't get more attention on this forum, I think it is an excellent venue for the budget minded monger. Never felt unsafe. The taxi ride kinda sucks, though.
Ak233
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Where is this Envidia girl
Anybody recognizes this chica who worked at Envidia? Sorry I don't want to show her face.
She's a nice, sweet, sexy young girl with a very pretty face, perfect lean body, unblemished skin, mi favorita in all BsAs. She beats the girls from clubs Madaho, Black, Solid Gold etc. By a very wide margin.
Anybody knows where I can find her now?