Dealing with Forum Traitors

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

I have received incontrovertible proof that a member of this forum has been contacting chicas whose photos are on the forum and specifically directing them to their photos, including sending them links and providing them with his username and password so they can view their photos personally.

My question for the membership is simple: What should we do with Forum Traitors?

This is a multiple choice poll.

The poll does not display individual voter's choices.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

I would say sleep on it to make sure in your own mind the proof is incontrovertible, then pretty much all of the above. This person should be both identified and banned. Maybe hook him up with Irina and (you know who) for a dupla.

WTF is up with that? Hurts all of us. Reason #167 why I don't take photos.

Post his username and password so that in the future we can post all of our photos using his username!

[blue]DH makes a valid point. I have received on several past occasions subjective reports that one forum member or another was showing the chicas their photos. However, in this latest incident the incontrovertible proof that I have is the traitor's email to the chica that was forwarded to me by the chica in her request that I remove her photos.

There's a copy of the email sans any identifying info:[/blue]

[quote]From: "XXXXXXX" <XXXXXXX>

To: XXXXXXX.

Subject: Fotos.

Date: Thu, 24 Aug. 2006 19:23:26 -0300

Jelowww.

Weno, lo que sigue son las fotos que están en el site de Argentinaprivate.

[blue]Links to photos deleted by admin.[/blue]

Si te pide usuario why contraseña ponele.

User: XXXXXXX.

Password: XXXXXXX.

Que son los que yo uso.

Mirando el sitio, este es el mail de XXXXXXX.

Cualquier cosa llamame k no problem.

Kisses.

XXXXXXX[/quote]

[QUOTE=Jackson][blue]Greetings Everyone,

I have received incontrovertible proof that a member of this forum has been contacting chicas whose photos are on the forum and specifically directing them to their photos, including sending them links and providing them with his username and password so they can view their photos personally.

My question for the membership is simple: What should we do with Forum Traitors?

This is a multiple choice poll.

The poll does not display individual voter's choices.

Thanks,[/quote]You left out castration.

Dave

This is why I no longer post photos. I also vote for castration. If he has any balls!

Okay, so the tattoo tells me who the chica is. Didn't this chica have her own website at one time? Yes, she did. So why the fuck does she care where the hell her photos are posted?

None of which excuses the behavior of the poster. Now that I know the chica, I can figure out who the traitor is, so you might as well out him or I will do it for you. Ha ha.

Also I would say that between Jellloooow and Weno, do not use her English tutor.

If guilty, an example must be made for all the neighborhood to see.

Yes I agree that showing the photos to the chicas is an act only a traitor would commit. While I think this is a very bad thing to do, outing somebodies handle to the chicas so they can read what we post is even worse. For this reason I have choosen not to post anything about the chicas. All who know me, can remember when I used to enjoy posting for my fellow mongers to enjoy as well. I only do PMs and photos to email addresses of mongers I know. I would like nothing more than to publically post the guilty parties names but then I would be sinking to their level. But rarther let this be a private message to those that have publically denounced me to some of the chicas (you know who you are); try to deal with your own inadequacies by other means. In other words if the chica doesn't like you don't blame the monger she does. Move on, there are thousands to pick from.

El G

Jackson,

For the benefit of all of us and especially those living in BA, you should publish who this dic* is so we all know what an AH he is.

Suerte.

Stowe

Banning there IP ain't shit, anyone who has basic internet knowledge knows you can get a new IP in about 10 mins time, banning user name don't do much of shit either, as they can still read the posts here.

I say name him publicly, and let him tuck tail and hide.

I think you need to have a chat with the member about it before taking action. If he is just a friend trying to help her "cleanup" her past after retirement, he just needs to understand that a different approach was needed, I. E. He should have just relayed her request to you rather than giving her the information. If it was just poor judgement and you think it won't be repeated, forgiveness is warrented. If this is just the latest in questionable actions, that's a different story.

The problem with banning is that it isn't that effective since it isn't hard to get another username from a different IP address.

Anybody that posts anything thinking that it's going to be kept private to the board is living in a fantasy world. That's why the T & Cs forbid posting personal details.

From Jackson's report it looks like this guy has informed more than one chica about her photos. So, any idea that his sole motivation is to "help" the chica is bullshit. He's an asshole. Out him and ban him.

Guys, this is an easy one. We don't need a jury to spend years debating whether or not to put this guy on death row. THIS IS ARGIE. What would any good Porteno do? Get a bunch of his buddies / henchmen, slip them like 100 pesos and tell them to go beat the fu*ck out of him.

Out his ass and his IP address so that all the hackers can take care of him. This forum is not for chicas, its for the American, English speaking monger. This is our best tool for not getting gringo prices wherever we go. Whoever outs this secret society should not be allowed.

First rule about fight club: NO ONE TALKS ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

2nd Rule about fight club: NO ONE TALKS ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

Anyone else can go to hell. Just my thoughts. Jackson, you are the commander in chief. Do what you want. Screw this asshole.

[QUOTE=TangoManiac]

First rule about fight club: NO ONE TALKS ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

2nd Rule about fight club: NO ONE TALKS ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

Anyone else can go to hell. Just my thoughts. Jackson, you are the commander in chief. Do what you want. Screw this asshole.[/QUOTE]I agree,

I also have to say, is there something that can be done with the picture section or the thumbsnails so only " trusted " posters can access the pictures?

I will be in BA in a few weeks, and I was planning on taking massive loads of pics and posting them on here, and although I personaly don't give a shit if some provider finds out, I do think it takes away from the whole Argentina " Private " theme.

Would it be possible to add some script that allowed only " trusted and proven " posters to access attached pics using a seperate password?

Then if a " trusted " poster commits the unspeakable treacherous seditious act of giving a chica his trusted password. Then you can ban him and I will personaly pay 5 Argie knuckleheads to go and " soften him up ", what I really mean is have them kick 7 shades of shit out of his pansy ass.

I say OUT him, let everyone know who this chump is. Banning an IP address won't do. I have a few as we speak.

Whoever this guy is, he should not be allowed to post on here.

I would say ban him and revoke his password, but seeing as that won't help much, It would be nice to see if something could be implemented so other turn coat punk asses won't be able to pull the same be. S.

Just my two cents,

The Bad One

I see two problems here. I agree with DH that the girl has advertised on the Web in the past and some of the photos are from here webpages. Not exactly the perfect victim, as opposed to someone who prefers privacy due to family or or personal concerns.

The second problem is this guy did not just sit down with a girl and show her the photos during a session (which I do not condone either) but he emailed her the info! He could be doing that for dozens of other photos from the forum. I would be interested to know what his motive is.

The member should simply leave the board because he fails to understand the basic premise of membership. Post his handle, then ban him. He violated the rule of not identifying others personal information by sending this e-mail.

[QUOTE=Papa Benito]Also, ban all the women ''posters'' such as Sol, Luciana, Lashamy, etc. Why should they have access to our information? Eventually, their access will come back to haunt one of us.[/QUOTE]This can't be done unless we go to a private, paid-board status. Which I am all in favor of, by the way. But until and unless that happens, the board is open for all the world to see (which isn't entirely a bad thing) and that includes chicas being able to read the posts. So long as we tolerate posters whose main contribution is off-topic nonsense, allowing chicas to participate in making on-topic contributions isn't a bad thing.

Out him, Jackson. You should certainly publicly name his handle and ban him.

[QUOTE=Hunt99]This can't be done unless we go to a private, paid-board status. So long as we tolerate posters whose main contribution is off-topic nonsense, allowing chicas to participate in making on-topic contributions isn't a bad thing.[/QUOTE]I think having a paid board status or even an all paid membership forum isn't a bad idea at all. I mean that would eliminate people running around the board threatening banishment to anyone with opposing views or beliefs.

It might also allow people to feel more at ease with posting pictures and writing more honest reviews. I got the mastercard at the ready.

Great idea Hunt.

A good example is.

[url]http://www.captain69.co.uk/[/url]

Though they mostly specialize in reviews.

Badboy

I second the motion to making this a private board and am more than willing to pay for those services. The day this becomes a private board (paying) and removing the chicas, I will post photos and reviews again for the enjoyment of other mongers. Just an example of photos I will post again.

El G

Maybe for photo section you need to be someone who has posted something MEANINGFUL. There are far too many lurkers on here.

If you come to Bs. As. and engage in the mongering lifestyle, post about it and what your experiences were. Once we know you are a native english speaking person who isn't a chica using babelfish you should be able to have access to other parts of the site.

If we go to membership paid, can it be something cheap like five bucks? I need to save the rest for the chicas!:-)

TM

IMHO, I think making donations towards something meaningful like the comedores that Capt Dave supports is a great idea and they are always in need of help. Maybe the site needs to promote more of that so we get better PR. If this were a paid site some of the money could go toward that, it could filter out the lurkers who only abuse the privileges of this board. Just an idea!

El G

I am in for making this a private, pay site. I live here in BA, and yes, there are way too many lurkers here. When I go to my posts and look at the number of views (not sure if this is the number of views of my post or the entire thread) but regardless it is way too high. Even my post about a little shit privado up in Martinez has over 500 views. Too many people looking at information that doesn't concern them. Let chicas advertise here, but stay off the board. We have to find a way to fight chica inflation and maybe this would help.

BTW, make the guy's handle public and ban him. Not sure you can do much else. Online, at least.

I think it would be interesting to see how many of the posters who frequent this site would actually be willing to pay $5-$10 monthly for a paid membership forum, that even though had sections for meaningless BS and chit chat, also had a huge archive of good honest unrestrained reviews and tons of graphic pictures. From someone moving to BA and planning to partake in ALL Madahos uhhh I mean BA has to offer. That sounds really good.

Charity is a good Idea for what to do with the proceeds, but it ain't my money so I'll leave that up to Jackson.

Despite the fact that I agree that showing chicas the forum is basically a BAD idea, I would like to point out that this forum already has an unusually large number of "rules", including some I personally think are counter-productive (specifically the brain-dead editing program that serves no purpose except to irritate legitimate posters and obscure some illiterate ones.)

Reviewing them, there is nothing that specifically prohibits someone from doing what this guy did, therefor it seems to me a little bogus to inflict such serious sanctions on him under the guise of some sort of violation of some unspecified but presumably universally acknowledged code of conduct practiced by a bunch of emotionally underdeveloped deviants (my ex-wifes description of what I prefer to think of as my hobby)

:)

David

I admit that I lurk too much and don't make very many worthwhile posts. I am coming down again and will rectify that this time around. I have some good pictures that I would like to post but I haven't. I know a guy that showed one of his regulars her pictures on here. I have no idea what he was thinking. She got pissed and told him that she remembered who took the pictures. I go with a lot of one timers but I have my share of regulars also. I would hate for one of my regulars to see her pictures, remember that I took them, and get pissed off at me. A happy chica is a good chica. Even if there were a way to restrict access, there is no way to guarantee someone not showing a chica her pictures. I have even had chicas not allow me to take pictures and tell me it was because they didn't want them on the internet. Michelle from Exedra was one. I got pictures with her clothes on, but she wouldn't let me get any pictures of those big natural tits.

[QUOTE=Capt Dave]Despite the fact that I agree that showing chicas the forum is basically a BAD idea, I would like to point out that this forum already has an unusually large number of "rules", including some I personally think are counter-productive (specifically the brain-dead editing program that serves no purpose except to irritate legitimate posters and obscure some illiterate ones.

Reviewing them, there is nothing that specifically prohibits someone from doing what this guy did, therefor it seems to me a little bogus to inflict such serious sanctions on him under the guise of some sort of violation of some unspecified but presumably universally acknowledged code of conduct practiced by a bunch of emotionally underdeveloped deviants (my ex-wifes description of what I prefer to think of as my hobby)

:)

David[/QUOTE]Come on give me a break, this guy is a cum sucking cocksucker!:eek: (want to know how I really feel?) You don't need a written rule for this kind of thing!:rolleyes:

I guess on balance I'd rather see this side remain free. I don't mind the idea of paying something for its use, but US$5/ mo. Would be about my limit. I wouldn't mind if in addition I was required to make a US$60/ yr. Donation to the WSG Charity.

BUT. What I would mind is a paper trail that connects me to this site. No matter how closely Jackson guards it, it could get out. I'm sure that there are people out there who would just love to out us. I assume, as things currently stand, that LE would have no problem determining that I participate here. But I also assume / hope that otherwise my secret is safe.

I guess what I would do is pay Jackson in cash while I am there in BsAs. (Small bills, maybe coins! If I had to use a credit card I think that I'd have to give up this forum. (If you know how to get a credit card in a fake name, and at a reasonable cost, let me know.

Bob

Hey whats up? A few days ago on the Howard Stern show Howard was talking about a company called pure vanilla. This company specializes on keeping your identity a secret. So you pay them with your credit card and then they somehow keep your identity secret. By doing this supposedly no one knows or has access to the purchases of your credit card and you can do all the memberships you want to adult orientated web sites. I have not tried it or even checked it out, but if your worried about someone knowing what your credit card was used for and want it to be a secret, then check out the web site. You will probobly have to search for it. Google pure vanilla and check it out.

I am all for a yearly fee (small of course) and the money should all be donated to the fund for those children Captain Dave is always talking about.

[QUOTE=AllIWantisLove]I guess on balance I'd rather see this side remain free. I don't mind the idea of paying something for its use, but US$5/ mo. Would be about my limit. I wouldn't mind if in addition I was required to make a US$60/ yr. Donation to the WSG Charity.

BUT. What I would mind is a paper trail that connects me to this site. No matter how closely Jackson guards it, it could get out. I'm sure that there are people out there who would just love to out us. I assume, as things currently stand, that LE would have no problem determining that I participate here. But I also assume / hope that otherwise my secret is safe.

I guess what I would do is pay Jackson in cash while I am there in BsAs. (Small bills, maybe coins! If I had to use a credit card I think that I'd have to give up this forum. (If you know how to get a credit card in a fake name, and at a reasonable cost, let me know.

Bob[/QUOTE]

I personaly use epassporte, it is what all european punters use for online purchases, it's basically a transaction from your email to jacksons email.

I have never had a privacy issues with them, and all the adult websites I work with use them as a preffered billing option.

Well then there it is, two good choices, Pure Vanilla and epassporte.

Though I don't think this website is going to move to a payed membership anytime soon. It was a nice thought.

Badboy

1) It is a fact that some girls read and post on this forum.

2) More than half the girls have web photos on the various web sites.

3) Our photos of them are typically fuzzy because their asses don't stay still while shooting them while fucking them. That is if you can get an Argentinine to pose. The Brasilians grab the camera and start shooting.

I say out the miserable bastard, that way everyone will be able to point him out at any of the haunts.

TheKnife,

Thats the way I voted.

There's something about peer pressure that humbles the shit out of people. If you've ever been in the Army when one guy fucks up they punnish the whole unit. Thats when the blanket party starts.

Exon

We should be able to see him to know who he is. That way we can all see the traitor to this forum.

Jackson,

Yesterday I voted and post voting there were 10 members who voted "nothing just let it go" or something similiar. One day later there are only 8 members counted as such. This is interesting. Is this poll being monitorred by the Mexican or Afgans?

[blue]Hi BundaLover,

I have no idea what you mean by your statement "Is this poll being monitorred by the Mexican or Afgans", but if you're questioning wether I or some outside entity doctored the poll results, then I can respond with a resounding "NO!".

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson,

Unfortunately you only gave us one choice. I would recommend both outing the dirtbag and putting the Scarlet Letter and Forum Traitor markings on them. Any further action should be a "Death Penalty" aka a permanent banishment.

T Tuna

If this guy is still active on this board, I would like him to tell us his reasons for showing chicas their pictures. I know he probably hasn't got the balls but you never know.

I remember making a mistake in March this year, a chica kept asking why I was fucking her friends and not her, I told her I fucked her 2 years ago but she wouldn't believe me no matter how many times I told her. The next time I took one of her friends I showed her a picture of her friend on my laptop naked, legs wide open. You know the type of pic. The next time I went to that club the chica who wouldn't believe me pulled me to one side and told me in no uncertain terms not to ever show anybody her naked pics. Bad boy FH.

Don't know what she would do if she found out I posted them on the old site over 2 years ago and I think they have over 10,000 hits, but I did blank out her face. She has the longest nipples I have ever had the pleasure with and thought my fellow mongers would enjoy.

FH

This may not be an actual rule, but this goes completely against the "unwritten code of ethics". Also it is completely counterproductive to the members' contributions to this site.

OD

[QUOTE=Ampfofu] I am all for a yearly fee (small of course) and the money should all be donated to the fund for those children Captain Dave is always talking about.[/QUOTE]Ampfofu

I happen to know from personal observation (and living with the guy for a couple of years at the mansion) that Jackson, as you might well imagine if you think about it, spends MANY hours a day (and quite a bit of cash) working on the forum (s) in a fairly successful effort to keep them junk-free and informative. I have had many a chuckle when the suggestion of an "alternative forum" has been made, thinking about how the poor bas**rd who suggests that has NO IDEA of the amount of work and time it takes to keep the forum working (and spam-free!)

I consider the ability to use the forum to raise money for those kids to be Jacksons extremely valuable contribution to the charity, and want and expect no other contribution from him.

The comedore charity is an entirely separate undertaking, and donations to the kids should NOT be mixed in with contributions to the forum.

Thanks,

David