What is a private apartment? Is it an MP? Sorry - I don't understand the concept.
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What is a private apartment? Is it an MP? Sorry - I don't understand the concept.
Private apartments are basically houses of prostitution set within apartments. In Buenos Aires there are literally hundreds. You go there and the madam will show you a lineup of available chicas and you select the one you want.
Prices are set by the madam not the chicas. They tend to be lower priced that the clubs even excluding the drinks that you must buy the chicas in the clubs.
Some apartments are pretty dreary but you are there to fuck. Many are pretty dark as well. Prices can go from about 50 pesos (17 dollars US) to 200 pesos. In my opinion reasonable prices for apartments are between 80-120 pesos for an hour however you can often buy 30 minutes.
Research this forum thoroughly and you will know pretty much all you need to know about the boliches (chica clubs) apartments and internet chicas.
Suerte.
Stowe
A few collected while walking around.
Jes
Private Apartments.
The vast majority of the ladies who work in Buenos Aires work in private apartments. In Argentina it is not against the law to pay or receive money for sex. It is however illegal to run a house of prostitution. Except that laws in this country are only made so the police can be bribed and ignore them.
It is not easy to rent an apartment in Buenos Aires, not for someone who has no job and no relatives who are willing to guarantee the rent for two years. This makes it very difficult for the average chica to rent her own apartment and be independent. Once you have the apartment you need to bribe the doormen, the police and be able to attract men, all of this takes experience and money.
On the other hand, there are many older women (and men) who are there to take advantage of the chicas and provide them with an apartment, usually shared with 2-5 other chicas. In return the house takes 50% of the income. And then charge the chica additional charges, from advertising (internet pages) to food and so forth. Some of those apartment owners treat the girls nice, others are bad news, so there is constant movement of chicas from one house to another. For someone who does not speak Spanish, private apartments are a good option, because the need to converse is limited.
There is a list (from the Dutch board) in this site of many apartments. One can just go there, ring the bell, go to the apartment and things can flow from there. You can expect to be greeted by a madam who will present you the chicas and tell you the price and services. You see who is available, if you like someone, pick her, pay the madam and you got yourself an experience. If you do not like anyone, you can expect a small discussion, before they will show you the door. Many places, only after you said, that you did not like anyone, will show you the most pretty girl in the house. In some cheap dirty places I encountered new phenomenon, where I was asked to pay a presentation fee some 10 or 20 pesos, and only after a small scandal was allowed to leave.
I found out that it is very difficult to find an attractive chica in a place that charges less than $100 pesos per hour. That scratches the majority of the Private Apartments off my of recommended list. But many of the girls working in those cheap and imes no so clean Apartments, can give you a nice experience for a mere 15-25 US Dollars, with kissing and all. Their bodies on the average are nice to pretty, so maybe a mask can help.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of such apartments. The owners, like any other businessman, try to increase the revenue, they might have two apartments, next to each other. Placing in the second apartment, the prize looking chica and advertising her as an independent. The practice is very common. Once I saw page in Bairesgirls of this hot chica (she must have 20 different names and is advertised on every internet site 3 times over) [url]http://grisell. Bgirls.com. Ar[/url]
I was told on the phone that her price is $500 pesos, I tried to negotiate, but nothing helped. I thought she might be all Photoshop and not a real person and did not go to see her. One day, I was in the Private Apartment of 1509 Peron Apt 4-E after doing Jessica I saw Barbie (Grisell in Bairesgirls) coming out of the bathroom. I asked the madam if I can do her, as well? . And for the basic price of 150 pesos she was right there with me, looking very very close to her pictures, a bit heavier, but still with the look of the "mothers of all wholes". By the way, she was a great experience.
In other words: many of the so called "independents" from BairesGirls, Platynum and even some of Area-vip, are just marked up regular Private Apartment chicas. In my experience if the phone number is not of a cell starting with 15, the chica you will meet works in an Apartment.
With so many apartments to chose from one need to create a short list. Plan to visit, at least, several Apartments, because going to a private apartment is very much a hit and miss type of experience. When you have an appointment with a lady you saw on the internet, you have only 50% chance that she is there and waiting for you. Better chances are that this particular one, left the house last week, or busy for the next 30 min with another costomer. Private apartment are very popular with the local crowd, between 5 and 8 pm it is very difficult to meet any chicas, as the nem getting off work fill the private apartment and some times stay on line.
Then, if you meet the chica you saw on the internet comes the issue of internet pictures vs, reality. Like all pictures on the Internet, you can never tell from the picture how the lady realy looks. With or without Photoshop, it is mind bugling, how one lady looks so pretty on her pictures and so ugly when you see her in person. However many times the lady is much more pretty in reality then her picture. Of course many pictures are fake, others photoshoped beyond recognition and all other types of surprises. I do not understand why there is not even one site in Buenos Aires that insists on verifying the model pictures and measurements and certify them to be correct. For example if you see a lady that claims to be 1. 70 tall it is almost guaranteed she is shorter, sometimes by 10 cm or more. On the other hand if she would write 1. 71 or 1. 72 (not a round number) chances are she is at that height.
Even when you find a miss universe type lady, and you take her to the room, you are just about to find what kind of service she provides. Just like anything else (or much more than most things) this is a very personalize matter. Because what is a great service in the eyes of one man, can be considered awful service by another man. Also the ladies, some are very accommodative and will try in any way they know to satisfy you, as a costumer, so you come back. Others have a list of limitations that is so long, you wished you never met them.
I personally found the majority of the Private apartment chicas to at least try. Of course everyone has good days and bad days so even the best chica might have days that her service stinks. Also here in Argentina, more than most places I know, the chicas are very sensitive. Give them a complement, be nice to them, or even bring a minor gift and you open their heart and the road to a great experience. Look dirty, be mean, or vulgar and you are assured to receive a very dry and sad experience. In my opinion if you try to treat them as you treat your girlfriend, they will in return, treat much better then your girlfriend. Because, chances are they are much more experienced and pretty then your girlfriend. Most feel that their job is to serve your needs, they are proud and some times even enjoy the act.
Of course some ladies are different they will refuse to kiss, refuse many other requests and give you a terrible experience. I, when confronted with such girl, will just get up in the middle, dress and tell the madam the chica was horrible (same word in Spanish). The few times it happened I was offered a replacement chica at a reduced rate.
If you like kissing, start kissing as early as possible, before you even start taking off your cloths. Many chicas look to you to set the tone and will follow you. If you hesitate they might be turned off by you and become colder. Once they freeze, it is kind of hard to bring them back, as they probably think you do not like them.
Here is my preferred list of Private Apartments
Corrientes 1373 piso 3 F 4373 2798 several very nice ladies 200p
Esmaralda 517 1B 4328 5707 Very busy very large choice ask for Bebota 150p
Franklin Roosevelt 2561 p1 apt5 4896 4503 conni is not so pretty but good service 150p
Larrea 1072 (at Santa Fe) Cielo 4824 8822 [url]www.cieloprivate.com.ar[/url] The best Apartment, the nicest chicas, the most expensive 300p
Junin 1631 p 3 D 4806 5147 15 6865 3560 Hit and miss here great looking blond with below average service 200p
Peron 1509 4E 4371 7591 Some great ladies good service 150p (30 min)
Paraguay 930 4d 4393 3452 4328 5797 lolita center so, so for me
Cuba 2526 h 4786 1594 4788 3772 lacasona belgrano [url]www.lacasonadebelgrano.com.ar[/url] in Belgrano very nice place but when visited all chicas were busy, did not wait.
Santa Fe 1707 Apt 3 4816 1490 4816 8926 try charo best tang in town.
Santa Fe 2036 piso 2-B [url]www.bonefemme.com.ar[/url] Hit and miss, but better than average.
Maipu 429 P5 Apt 5 4322 1895 nice place average chicas but good service 150p a good place to try for two ladies. [url]Www.templomarion.com[/url] They have another branch at Diagonal Norte 885
Apt 3 G 4326 2437
My next report Independent Chicas in 10 days
Smuler,
Great summary in my opinion of "the way things work", other than a few minor deviations here and there, I agree thats the way it works most times. Having hit the town a few times here in BA, I think your quick summary of the "better day houses" was a better than fair assesment for the guys with a desire for a higher std of girl. Not to say a solid performer can't be found elsewhere for a better value, but generally speaking you get what you pay for. (matter of fact you mentioned one or two I was not familiar with and named a few names, my little black book now has a few new places for me to visit - Thanx!
You missed Gysell's on Suipachi 834 Piso 7 apt C 4322-1274
I enjoy her place on occasion, and have an appt today at 3
Zhomeguy
Poker. Would like to add my compliments on your first-rate summary of the private apartment scene in BA. Should be read by all new visiting mongers.
Regarding your point on Internet girls with cell phone numbers only. It may be that the girl who only has a cell phone number is a genuine independent, but this is not infallible There are privados who market some of their better looking girls as independents with cell phone numbers, hoping clients will prepared to pay more than a regular privado girl. I was taken in a couple of times last year by this trick. As you have pointed, out some privados (e. G. Peron 1509) operate several apartments in the same building. Easy to be fooled into thinking you are seeing an exclusive independent girl in her own place, when she is in fact working for a nearby privado.
Hi All,
Does anyone know what is the address for the number 4373-0333. A lot of very interesting ladies (interesting to me, judging by the pictures) share the same number on 59. Com. Ar.
This is just part of creating my list (for when I manage to get out of the US)
For a bit of R & R! (pun intended) Will share this with all when I am done.
Best,
Ken
Hi All,
Does anyone know what is the address for the number 4373-0333. A lot of very interesting ladies (interesting to me, judging by the pictures) share the same number on 59. Com. Ar.
This is just part of creating my list (for when I manage to get out of the US)
For a bit of R & R! (pun intended) Will share this with all when I am done.
Best,
Ken
[QUOTE=Ken Brown]Hi All,
Does anyone know what is the address for the number 4373-0333. A lot of very interesting ladies (interesting to me, judging by the pictures) share the same number on 59. Com. Ar.
This is just part of creating my list (for when I manage to get out of the US)
For a bit of R & R! (pun intended) Will share this with all when I am done.
Best,
Ken[/QUOTE]While the number is registered to a different address (Correintes 1667) the number is associated with the privado 779 Esmerelda apt 4B (as are several other #s including 4373-1003, 4313-7751)
The 4373 exchange is micro centro.
From WT69's list:
☺Esmeralda 779, PB Apt 4, at Córdoba. 10 Chicas, in shifts. Prices: Conventional 150p 30 min. Complete 200p 30 min. Conventional 220p hour, Complete 250p hour, Full 300p hour. Tel: 4313-7751. Hours: 24/7.
Website:
[url]http://www.microcentrovip.com.ar/[/url]
Thread:
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/for...read.php?t=4898[/url]
Just plain curiosity, any experts here want to ponder a guess as to how many guys one of the girls at a private apartment would see in a week? How much they make in a week?
Newbie here, just wondering, I know that you are supposed to pay first, but is it customary or polite to tip after the time is over? Or is this just a waste of money?
Tarantula,
If you are paying like 150 or 200 pesos it is probably all included. But at least a 20 peso tip is probably still a good idea. But some of these places are 100 and then if you don't work a deal or discuss tipping more. You ain't getting no happy ending.
[QUOTE=Tarantula]Newbie here, just wondering, I know that you are supposed to pay first, but is it customary or polite to tip after the time is over? Or is this just a waste of money?[/QUOTE]Probably, with the exception of Gysell's, you pay before in any apartment, "Not" after.
Exon
Exon - do you have a thought on my question about hours a girl works per day and how much they make?
Use a girl from say Gysell's place and any other place as a comparison. If you have time and feel like giving your 2 cents. I am interested to hear what you think.
[QUOTE=El Caballero]Exon - do you have a thought on my question about hours a girl works per day and how much they make?
Use a girl from say Gysell's place and any other place as a comparison. If you have time and feel like giving your 2 cents. I am interested to hear what you think.[/QUOTE]I really don't have a Clue. I'd guess the pretty girls with good service do 4 or 5 guy's a day, but thats a guess.
I do know that they take home half or less of what their paid so "Tip's" are greatly appreciated.
Gysell's place is the exception of Apartments. Gysell has a lot of friends, (I'm one of them) so she's had the best coaching on how to run a "House of I'll Repute" by real professional mongers. In many case she's taken that advise and the reports on this forum speak for themself's.
Exon
Another question - do you or someone you know have an opinion of safest family neighborhoods to buy / rent an actual home (not apartment) north of the city. The closer to the city the better tho. I see areas like Florida, San Isidro, Olivos, La Lucila, just wondering. We may be moving to BA and I need to rent a nice 3 - 5 bedroom place. No more than 2200/ month US.
[QUOTE=El Caballero]Another question - do you or someone you know have an opinion of safest family neighborhoods to buy / rent an actual home (not apartment) north of the city. The closer to the city the better tho. I see areas like Florida, San Isidro, Olivos, La Lucila, just wondering. We may be moving to BA and I need to rent a nice 3 - 5 bedroom place. No more than 2200/ month US.[/QUOTE]Is that there are some beautiful places out in San Isidro. I would think that you can nail down a pretty sweet place for US$2,200/ mo.
If you work on an "American" schedule, you can beat the morning rush hour traffic to get down town.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye]Is that there are some beautiful places out in San Isidro. I would think that you can nail down a pretty sweet place for US$2,200/ mo.
If you work on an "American" schedule, you can beat the morning rush hour traffic to get down town.[/QUOTE]Vicente Lopez and San Isidro along the hill top that runs along the river.
There are some really beautiful places.
Mansions and Villas, etc.
Not in that price range but you can find something I'm sure.
Safe is hard to say!
Nobody is untouchable without a really professional body-guard!
TL
[QUOTE=El Caballero]Another question - do you or someone you know have an opinion of safest family neighborhoods to buy / rent an actual home (not apartment) north of the city. The closer to the city the better tho. I see areas like Florida, San Isidro, Olivos, La Lucila, just wondering. We may be moving to BA and I need to rent a nice 3 - 5 bedroom place. No more than 2200/ month US.[/QUOTE]El Caballero,
Go here -- [url]http://www.reynoldspropiedades.com/[/url]
There very creditable and will take good care of You.
Exon
Does anyone know the apartment number for LaCasona Belgrano.
On Cuba 2526. Does anyone know when they may open on a Monday?
[QUOTE=El Caballero]Another question - do you or someone you know have an opinion of safest family neighborhoods to buy / rent an actual home (not apartment) north of the city. The closer to the city the better tho. I see areas like Florida, San Isidro, Olivos, La Lucila, just wondering. We may be moving to BA and I need to rent a nice 3 - 5 bedroom place. No more than 2200/ month US.[/QUOTE]I live in Vte Lopez since I was born so any query please ask me.
Love.
G.
Hi Guys.
I was not in BA for 3 jears. That time I had a friend there which did know where to go.
This time I will stay for 3 days and will arrive on Sunday. Reading the forum I figured not some things out.
So my questions
Sunday.
- Which privados are open on Sunday. Any recommendations?
- Any other advice for a boring Sunday afternoon except for sightseeing?
Privados
- Are there any privados where you can take out a chica. What I prefer to do?
- Which privados have good selection right now. And are recomended at the moment?
Another thing which I did not really get out of the forum are the escort pages (never used in BA)
- Most girls there work in privados as far I understand. So they come to the hotel as well or you have to go to there place anyway?
-The telefon numbers are agencys or direct the girls?
-Thats probably the way to find someone for me on Sunday or?
And finally Clubs.
- Last time I was in Crocodilos in the morning. When it got crowded from all the other clubs. I liked it much better there because chicas where free. Could negitiate what they want. So I found one which stayd the next day with me. I did read the last reports but it seems now its very professional there with regular working girls. So that did change or still the same?
Thanks for the help guys. Some advice would be great.
How is the best to handle the Doorman?
Just tell him the apt. Number you want to go? Or just pass him?
Was not in BA quite a time but remember last time one of them wanted to call the apt? Which is some kind of strange because what you tell him? I am here to fuck?
Need advice for this time. But did find some spots last time as well.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Abrigado; 413917]Hi Guys.
. . .
Privados
- Are there any privados where you can take out a chica. What I prefer to do?
- Most girls there work in privados as far I understand. So they come to the hotel as well or you have to go to there place anyway?
-The telefon numbers are agencys or direct the girls?
. . [/QUOTE]Most, if not all, privados will provide outcall. Always they want taxi fare and sometimes an hour of outcall is more than an hour of incall.
The published telephone numbers are usually of the privado.
Bob
[QUOTE=Abrigado; 413920]How is the best to handle the Doorman?
Just tell him the apt. Number you want to go? Or just pass him? [/QUOTE]Don't worry about these guys. I usually just walk right by, sometimes with a brief glance of acknowledgement, like I've been there hundreds of times before.
In case I need help finding the elevator (rare) I'll ask. On rare occasion they ask where you are going, just say to floor X. And if they ask for the exact apartment just state it matter of fact. If they ask why say to see a friend. Although I'm sure some of them know the deal or wouldn't care, I would refrain from saying you are going to see a chica for massage or sex. Again I think it is uncommon they ask where you are going, and even less common ask the reason why.
It's been a while since I've been to BA but with the blue rate going strong I am considering a return this summer. One of the questions I have has to do with the new laws regarding privados. What has changed and what can I expect from the scene? My budget for pfp is no more than $50 a day. How many options would I have? Are guys handing out flyers anymore on Florida St. ? I'd be willing to do 30 minute sessions as long as BBBJ and DATY are included.
My other questions have to do with:
Cigars.
420.
Exchange Rate.
Food Prices.
If anyone wants to take a stab please PM me.
Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;439427]It's been a while since I've been to BA but with the blue rate going strong I am considering a return this summer. One of the questions I have has to do with the new laws regarding privados. What has changed and what can I expect from the scene? My budget for pfp is no more than $50 a day. How many options would I have? Are guys handing out flyers anymore on Florida St. ? I'd be willing to do 30 minute sessions as long as BBBJ and DATY are included.
My other questions have to do with:
Cigars.
420.
Exchange Rate.
Food Prices.
If anyone wants to take a stab please PM me.
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Cigars. This article sums it up well - [URL]http://landingpadba.com/where-to-buy-and-smoke-cigars-in-buenos-aires/[/URL] except the place at 399 independencia is bullshit. Its a rinky dink convenience store with a residential humidor that doesn't have real Cuban cigars, let alone any decent smoking cigars at all. Just rough smokes.
420 - best bet, San Telmo. I smelled it off of people outside of English pub and valentinos. I also smelled it at the Sunday morning street fair on Defensa. Just sniff around and if you smell it on someone, ask! Its not difficult. If you see someone with funky dreds, they probably imbibe. For the most part, what you see is what you get over here.
Exchange rate. Right now its 11.70 to the dollar on Florida St. There is a side mall I use just outside of Deportes Blue. BTW, I know nobody asked, but in case anybody is curious, Deportes Blue is the best place to buy running shoes because you won't get ripped off like you will elsewhere and you will get badass quality shoes! The Puma store and the Nike store are garbage.
Food prices. Very weird. I just don't get it. For a basic breakfast, (cheese sandwich, scrambled eggs, coffee) its 8 USD. But for a knock you off your feet steak dinner its only 4 dollars more! Fresh fruits are the best way to go but for about 4.5 lbs worth avg you will still walk out spending 12 USD and that too from the local market near Defensa (the historic one). Its nothing to cry about but it just makes me go "huh? Veggies here are fresh, but they are not particularly crisp like they are back home. You may get a touch of travelers runs but a dose of Immodium will clean that right up. Good artisan / specialty beer, wine, cheese, ice cream, and butter are fantastic quality and cheaper than back home. But water is 2 USD for 1.5 gallon. Of course lets not forget about the golden rule of location, location, location. These are approximations based on a first class tenderloin, in a first class restaurant: in San Telmo - 12.5 USD! In Recoleta - 85 USD in Puerto Madero - 95 USD.
So whether or not you get more for your peso will be a question of whether or not a given restaurant is appropriate for its location. For example, lets pick on Osaka. Its a Japanese Peruvian fusion place. Its run like a high-end, 4 star restaurant. The food is unique, and it doesn't really have a place outside of Puerto Madero. It is where it belongs. Avg lunch there will cost you 65 USD. Compare that to a 5 star restaurant I went to in Recoleta where I walked out spending 35 USD, but it served traditional cuisine. I got more for my money in Recoleta but when else am I going to get Japanese Peruvian fusion? See what I mean! but if I just wanted a tenderloin, I see absolutely no reason why I should pay 85 when I can pay 12.50. I simply can not justify it. I have had the best meat money can buy (outside of real Japanese kobe), and I can tell you that past a certain point, the differences are more subtle than not.
I know this was long winded, but I wrote it with not just you in mind, but anybody else who comes by with the same questions. I hope it was helpful.
Argentine government fighting prostitution and seems it's getting harder.
[URL]http://infojusnoticias.gov.ar/nacionales/allanan-veinte-prostibulos-vip-en-pleno-centro-porteno-4550.html[/URL]
Wow, this doesn't seem to jibe too well with the "prostitution is legal" angle. I know it says in some places that brothels themselves and "pimping" are illegal, but the act of prostitution itself is not (right?).
If those women had been walking the streets would there be a legal basis for a crackdown? If not, calling it a "rescue" seems dumb.
[QUOTE=Kwall;441935]Wow, this doesn't seem to jibe too well with the "prostitution is legal" angle. I know it says in some places that brothels themselves and "pimping" are illegal, but the act of prostitution itself is not (right?).
If those women had been walking the streets would there be a legal basis for a crackdown? If not, calling it a "rescue" seems dumb.[/QUOTE]Indeed. It's dumb.
Street walking also requires some pimping. Otherwise it's a target for easy robbery.
Denial of a safer place it's another word to say "we think prostitution must be terminated" since any other place such as a bar, club or a brothel should be organized by a third person.
This article I think explains the Gov'ts angle. They are "rescuing" these poor girls from slavery! (LOL!) In some instances that might be true and when it is I'm all for it. But if you follow their lead, every sex worker in Argentina is working against their will. This gives the Gov't a lot of international press and prestige when they "release" them from slavery! . I believe I read recently that Argentina and Cristina recently received some honors or awards for being so diligent in fighting against the illegal trafficking of people , etc. Etc. .......