Perspective of a American-Argentine girl on prostitution

I was having a chitchat with a non-pro today.

She is Argentine but grew up in the US.

And guess what she says about prostitution in BA.

" Its not fair. Prostitution should be banned in Argentina. Its such a big problem for us girls. Guys aren't trying hard enough for real women. Plus those in a relationship, can go and get laid anytime they feel like and his poor gf / wife won't even come to know!"

" These prostitutes only know how to sell their body. They don't want to real jobs."

"I am so happy prostitution is illegal in US. Guys can't get laid and must run after real girls"

[QUOTE=Member #3320;426508]Guys aren't trying hard enough for real women.[/QUOTE]There's a couple of things you need to straighten her out on:

1. Working girls are also real women.

2. If the 'real women' she's referring to weren't such bloody hard work that we have to 'try hard', they'd get a lot more attention!

Gents,

The quote I always remember is from a street interview on CNN with a mid-30's woman "[i]If men can just buy sex, then they won't try as hard.[/i]"

These comments belie the real reason why women lobby to use the law to criminalize commercial sex.

It has [u]NOTHING[/u] to do with their usual claims that prostitution "encourages child abuse", "encourages human trafficking", "destroys family relationships", "encourage violence against women", etc, etc, etc.

It has [u]EVERYTHING[/u] to do with women losing their control as the gatekeepers to the sexual playground.

If men have this option, then they no longer need to kiss individual women's asses.

Without this option, they are reduced to begging for sex.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Member #3320; 426508]I was having a chitchat with a non-pro today.

She is Argentine but grew up in the US.

And guess what she says about prostitution in BA.

" Its not fair. Prostitution should be banned in Argentina. Its such a big problem for us girls. Guys aren't trying hard enough for real women. Plus those in a relationship, can go and get laid anytime they feel like and his poor gf / wife won't even come to know!"

" These prostitutes only know how to sell their body. They don't want to real jobs."

"I am so happy prostitution is illegal in US. Guys can't get laid and must run after real girls"[/QUOTE]Hahahaha lolololololol ROTFLMAO! Sounds like your friend is pissed that guys are no longer willing to play her "what can you do / buy for me", cock teasing, controlling games.

"Try hard enough" hahahahahaha in other words "spend a ton of $$$ on me and MAYBE I will bless you with some pussy, if I feel like it, and don't need to wash my hair". Lololol.

"those in a relationship can go and get laid", if she was giving him enough maybe he wouldn't step out on her, sounds like she is "americanized" alright. Using her pussy to try and control a man.

While talking to this girl, I actually told her I am sexually very active and regularly go to prostitutes.

She exclaimed so loudly!

She took my name like loudly.

"[i]XYZ, I can' t believe it. You of all the people resorting to such low things in life. You have become so desperate! Shocking! Unbelievable! I always thought you were a gentleman![/i]"

I replied "[i]Yes, I am a gentleman even now but I have physical needs and I have no time or patience to run after non-pros![/i]"

She replied "[i]How much it can cost?[/i]"

I told her "[i]If I am feeling cheap and stingy, I can get a decent BBBJ in 200 pesos.[/i]"

She squealed sooooo LOUDLY and almost started crying.

"[i]I am sure my bf must be cheating on me, then![/i]"

And then she abused "her" country.

"[i]I hate this country. Why don't they have a proper legal system. What kind of country is this allowing guys to have sex for 200 pesos![/i]"

[QUOTE=Member #3320;426516]If I am feeling cheap and stingy, I can get a decent BBBJ in 200 pesos"[/QUOTE]Hehehe 3320 you should have told her "[i]less than what it is costing me to sit here talking to you[/i]" LOL

[QUOTE=Member #3320; 426516]

She replied "[i]How much it can cost? [/i]"

I told her "[i]If I am feeling cheap and stingy, I can get a decent BBBJ in 200 pesos. [/i]"[/QUOTE]Imagine what she would have said if you told her it was available for 100p!

Hi Guys: Long time no communication. I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

I really don't like to use the word prostitution. What we are really talking about here is 'contractual sex'. The idea of contractual sex is negotiating with a woman like this: ' If I do X then you will repay me with sex? '. It is not important if X is money or concert tickets. I think that we men can help ourselves if we start thinking of this and referring to it as 'contractual sex'.

If you think about it, all forms of contractual sex outside of marriage are illegal in the US. Trying to form a contract for sex is solicitation. Executing the contract is prostitution. Both are illegal. Marriage used to be contractual sex directly, when it was 'love, honor, and obey'. Now it no longer is. I believe it still gives one the right to negotiate. I don't think one can be charged for soliciting their wife. Any lawyers? However, since marriage is mostly a one way commitment (the man is committed to much by law and the woman is committed to very little by anything) the right to negotiate in marriage doesn't mean much.

This is because one can't just walk away when the price gets too high.

This discussion is right on about why women hate contractual sex. They virtually HAVE to be in control constantly, so they love the idea that they rarely have to commit to anything, especially sex. They have an idea of 'Just keep doing things for me and if I am sufficiently happy I might give you sex'. It is a very good means of manipulating men.

Without going into details here, American culture is rife with examples of this idea that women use sex to control men and to buy marriage. One example, I remember in my youth women saying about sex and marriage: 'Why buy the cow if you can get the milk free? '

I think that understanding this issue and framing it correctly is very important for maintaining our self esteem, fighting for men's rights, and not being embarrassed discussing this issue with so called 'non-pro women'.

Interesting points here but also contradictory. I know women who are happily married with kids who want NSA sex because their husbands don't turn them on anymore. Its quite possible those same husbands are paying for the sex they don't think they could get at home!

The question that married men who are not happy with their sex lives at home NEVER ask their wives is ' so, if you don't want to have sex with me, do you mind if I have sex with someone else? '.

But then, there are also men, like me, who have a perfectly satisfying sex life at home, but still want to fuck anything that moves. Paid for or not. No man ever died saying he wished he had fucked fewer women.

[QUOTE=Lexton; 426527]Hi Guys: Long time no communication. I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

I really don't like to use the word prostitution. What we are really talking about here is 'contractual sex'. The idea of contractual sex is negotiating with a woman like this: ' If I do X then you will repay me with sex? '. It is not important if X is money or concert tickets. I think that we men can help ourselves if we start thinking of this and referring to it as 'contractual sex'.

If you think about it, all forms of contractual sex outside of marriage are illegal in the US. Trying to form a contract for sex is solicitation. Executing the contract is prostitution. Both are illegal. Marriage used to be contractual sex directly, when it was 'love, honor, and obey'. Now it no longer is. I believe it still gives one the right to negotiate. I don't think one can be charged for soliciting their wife. Any lawyers? However, since marriage is mostly a one way commitment (the man is committed to much by law and the woman is committed to very little by anything) the right to negotiate in marriage doesn't mean much.

This is because one can't just walk away when the price gets too high.

This discussion is right on about why women hate contractual sex. They virtually HAVE to be in control constantly, so they love the idea that they rarely have to commit to anything, especially sex. They have an idea of 'Just keep doing things for me and if I am sufficiently happy I might give you sex'. It is a very good means of manipulating men.

Without going into details here, American culture is rife with examples of this idea that women use sex to control men and to buy marriage. One example, I remember in my youth women saying about sex and marriage: 'Why buy the cow if you can get the milk free? '

I think that understanding this issue and framing it correctly is very important for maintaining our self esteem, fighting for men's rights, and not being embarrassed discussing this issue with so called 'non-pro women'.[/QUOTE]

Paid sex, contractual sex, prostitution or call it as you want, it's also available in the US, Europe, but quality it's less or the market rates are higher. On the other hand, some high end luxury escorts are not available in Argentina.

For some guys, the only reason to get married it's to make sure they get laid in a regular basis.

It's a form of social control.

By the way,

I met her again today and conveyed all your viewpoints to her.

She was laughing and saying that we guys are lucky to have got it all solved out by traveling to places like Argentina.

And she said, majority of the men are still struck in US and Europe and would continue to be for rest of their life and henceforth she is not worried for the fate of women/ women's power over men in US and Europe.

And she said, she was happy that I was getting laid and am not sexually frustrated in BA. Though she felt, I was eligible enough to get good sex from a non-pro without resorting to availing prostitutes.

She said: [i]"XYZ, Look around you. Open your eyes. So many normal girls looking for love, affection and a man like you to take care of them. Why are you burning your hard earned money on prostitutes!"[/i]

I replied [i]"I appreciate your comments. But I have already burned my money ( and my heart!) for major part of my life on non -pros. I am over and done with it. Now, only "pay for play" works for me and nothing else!"[/i]

[QUOTE=Member #3320; 426545]

"I appreciate your comments. But I have already burned my money (and my heart!) for major part of my life on non.pros. I am over and done with it. Now, only "pay for play" works for me and nothing else!"[/QUOTE]Excellent!

[QUOTE=Member #3320;426545]I replied [i]"I appreciate your comments. But I have already burned my money ( and my heart!) for major part of my life on non -pros. I am over and done with it. Now, only "pay for play" works for me and nothing else!"[/i][/QUOTE]Gentlemen,

1. All women are prostitutes.

2. All men pay for sex. The only difference is how the payments are structured.

For those of you who find these truisms a bit harsh, let me rephrase it another way: All sexually active men provide some form of consideration to their sex partners, and all sexually active women regularly accept said considerations.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=SimpleWrangler;426546]Excellent![/QUOTE]The reason we pay is not to have them come with us, but to leave when we are done.

I'm somewhere in between Jax and Member on this. I've gotten to the point where I'm just not into the game anymore and prefer the conveniance of P4P, but I do believe that there are women (the minority though) that still involve themselves with men and gladly share sexual relationships for the closeness and intimacy they feel. I will also grant that by and large the women here are looking for a guy that can provide and while that is an exchange it's more of a traditional values kind of thing and I'm ok with that.