Hey Ruf,
Don't worry about what these people say about money. Go and have a great time. Hopefully you will get what you want, and pay a good price to you.
Good Luck and Have fun.
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Hey Ruf,
Don't worry about what these people say about money. Go and have a great time. Hopefully you will get what you want, and pay a good price to you.
Good Luck and Have fun.
300 pesos, a good attitude and patience will get you a great time. Like you I am American and I tend to look for the young top caliber looking girls. For the most attractive girls at Madahos you will have to spend 300 pesos. If you are nice and have some chemistry you will be surprised as to how long they stay. I find that more often then not the girl will want to stay several hours or the entire night with me. Like everyone else I have some bad esperiences but for the most part things go well and that is why I feel Buenos Aires is better than Brazil, Europe or anywhere else.
As I am not trying to save money I trypically stick around the club for awhile and buy several drinks. If I like a girl I buy her a drink. The girls almost never will drink any alcohol. If they do get a drink with alcohol it will usually be a weak drink unless they get a beer. I am a big fan of drinking so usually end up buying a girl many drinks so I have a better chance of developing a little chemistry before going to my hotel room.
Madahos is my favorite club. I also like Solid Gold and Black and am excited to try La Lopez in November. I have not heard much about it so hopefully you can go and let us know how it is.
One piece of advice I give to everybody is that if a girl starts with a ridiculous price or at any time tries to take advantage of you get rid of her immediately. Any girl who does this has a strong chance at being a hustler and the sooner you cut her loose the better it will be. Every time I ignore this rule I regret it and I now have a zero tolerance rule for anyone that would try to take advantage.
Hope this helps and feel free to pm me if you have any specific questions I can help with.
I had 100, 150, 200 and 300 peso chicas, all sort of experiences between lousy and great, but in all my 8 or 10 visits to BA I could not find any relation between quality of the session and price.
Some other relations, however do exist:
Very good look sometimes comes with an attitude. They know they look good and think that's enough. No need to give good service.
Price is related to the location you pick her up. Or how comes it otherwise that you can pull a U$S 200 Black chica for A$R 150 out of Cocodrillo's after hours?
There is a strong correlation between the way you treat a girl and the way she treats you. Treat her like your girlfriend and you stand a good chance to be treated like her boyfriend. Treat her like a *****, and get treated like a john.
In Madaho's, the going rate may well be A$R 300, that's the reason why I have not been there too often during the last 1 1/2 years. Going there, one probably will have to accept paying that price. Just don't fall for anything higher, or we will next year discuss 400 as the "going price". Just be advised, you don't get better service than from a A$R 150 or 200 girl you get in the triangle. If on the other side you click with the Madaho's girl, have a good feeling about it then take her.
And if you are a fan of drinking, go to a bar. A normal one. Or go to Newport where you get your drinks at a reasonable price and still have a good selection of chicas around. And no "house rules" about minimum chica fees. Throwing around money in madaho's et al, does not impress any chica, it just outs you as an ATM. You will impress the girls by being nice to them (they get that too seldom) make them lough, giving them a good time.
Btw. A lawyer in Buenos Aires bills A$R 200 to 300 per hour, just to put the prices discussed into some relation.
I am certainly not a member of the "price police" on that board that points fingers towards anybody who admits having paid more than 99 pesos for a fuck, but I also don't like that money-is-no-concern attitude. It drives inflation, and anybody suffering from the urge to throw away his money should do so in places deliberately constructed for the purpose, for example Las Vegas.
Just 2 centavos.
El Alemán
[QUOTE=Jazz Doc]My feeling is, Life is short, if I find another girl in Black like that, and the price is high, I'm going for it. And if it drives the price up, so be it. I've got one shot a year, I don't speak Spanish, but I don't care. Most of my mongereng is going to be cheaper, but I don't mind an occasional high dollar hottie. Blast away if you wish, but that is reality.[/QUOTE]So let's see. You want us to flame you in advance for something you didn't do?
Fortunately (or unfortunatly) you probably won't find that girl at Black (or anywhere) since she's probably in Barcelona or Cancun, so it would be a scolding for nothing, and a good flame is a terrible thing to waste!
You will find, I'm sure, many other ladies, although perhaps lesser quality, who will be happy to relieve you of a months (Argentinian) wages.
Through it all though, please keep in mind though that generally when an Argentine hooker asks for a crazy number like that it's because she doesn't want to screw you, and even though she may (if you pay her that outrageous amount) your chances of having a memorable experience are pretty limited.
:)
David
Quote "Through it all though, please keep in mind though that generally when an Argentine hooker asks for a crazy number like that it's because she doesn't want to screw you, and even though she may (if you pay her that outrageous amount) your chances of having a memorable experience are pretty limited. "
I don't think any girl in Black, or Madahoes, or whatever, wants to screw me, unless she is paid. If she is there, she has a price. If she is absolutely beautiful and has a smoking body, I'm willing to pay for it. I'll make believe that she likes it, if I have to, but it is much more pleasant to me to fuck a gorgeous woman than a plump or ugly woman who fakes it better. The point is, is that there is an economic principal going on here. To get the same quality woman in the US is 500 US in Vegas. You can get the same in Blacks for 200. Its a no brainer for me.
I agree with Capt Dave. I've found through many years of mongering that if one just pays what the chick asks for, the experience is likely to be lackluster. I'm not sure what it is, but my guess is that the chick respects you more if you challenge her a bit. Women, pro or non-pro, generally are turned off by guys that just do what they ask for. I've gotten to know a few girls in Rio over the years and they actually make fun of the guys that pay their "asking price."
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Hi Combo,
At last, somebody finally voiced the correct reason for negotiating with a chica even if you are willing to pay her "asking price".*
It's all about resepct, gentlemen, not about saving a few pesos.
If a chica respects you as a man, she will give more of herself to you.
Thanks,
Jackson
*Actually, there shouldn't even be an "asking price" because you shouldn't ask her what her price is, you should be just telling her what you'll pay, but that's a subject for a different day.[/blue]
I agree with all of you that find important:
- Find the right one.
- Treat her as your GF.
- Make her understand that you are concious of the "market right price" of the club you are picking her up (one is Madaho, one is Cocodrilo regardless if is the same girl)
- If she ask you more try to negotiate kindly and funny.
- If she doesn't accept the market rate (300 for ex at madaho) AVOID HER!
A question for all of you: what do you think is the "right market price" at Black at the moment?
Thanks
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A question for all of you: what do you think is the "right market price" at Black at the moment?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Why, do you work there?
David
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Hi Combo,
At last, somebody finally voiced the correct reason for negotiating with a chica even if you are willing to pay her "asking price".*
It's all about resepct, gentlemen, not about saving a few pesos.
If a chica respects you as a man, she will give more of herself to you.
Thanks,
Jackson
*Actually, there shouldn't even be an "asking price" because you shouldn't ask her what her price is, you should be just telling her what you'll pay, but that's a subject for a different day.[/blue][/QUOTE]Ok, that made complete sense, I will from now on start the " negociations " with what I am willing to pay, if the Chica doesn't accept, I will move on. Thanks again Jackson, your comment about respect made alot of sense.
Badboy
I negotiate for a living. I've never heard of a successful negotiation strategy whereby you state your bottom line and then refuse to budge from it. It might work from time to time, but I don't think it makes sense.
What tends to work for me in Black is for me to require the other side to give an opening offer and then work down from there. In a friendly, bantering manner.
Capt Dave,
Thanks god I don't work at Black, jajajaja.
Anyway I took the right way your joke and I'm still laughing.
Simply, I was asking only because I don't like go to a club without knowing the average rate. Simple as that. If you go to a restaurant, before you go you know the range.
I know, for example, that at Madaho I don't have to negotiate either.
I accept the standard price 300 pesos that seems to me fair.
At Black, sometimes, 600 pesos seems to me outrageous only because I don't find any differece within those that work there in relation to the Madaho ones.
I only picked them up twice at around 300 / 400 pesos with full satisfaction.
One time a really, absolutely, stunning beauty asked me 300 dollars and I declined, even if in my own country this could be cheap.
I like to stay here, thinking in pesos, respect and be respected.
As Jackson properly underlined.
Price control should always be on our mind. Knowing that when you walk in a club you know the rate that you should pay for that place regardless of how good looking is a girl if she is in that place she is worth the going rate if she ask you for even 10 more pesos you have to decline and bring her back to standing rate or else the next time you approach an other girl in that place you might be asked that new going rate that you just paid and you are driving the going rate of that place up. Knowing for a fact since 2001 the going rate has gone up from the 100-150 to 300 range in most club. And that is for the fact that we keep paying the increase saying well if I was in the states this would cost me much more. But you are not the going rate here at madahos is 300 pesos. If they want more money they should move to a more upscale place and try their luck to compete in this new upscale environement so we would have upscale place where you would find the best looking the best serving type of girls at a fixed price competing against each other rather than us competing paying more for a girl.
I haven't been in Ba for a couple of years and all my favorite places are closed. Salome and now Rio Cabana. I liked these places cuz they seemed to be like low mileage college girls. Good things never stay the same.
[QUOTE=Member #1036]I haven't been in Ba for a couple of years and all my favorite places are closed. Salome and now Rio Cabana. I liked these places cuz they seemed to be like low mileage college girls. Good things never stay the same.[/QUOTE]1036
Salome is open again, although when I stopped by a few days ago the selection was pretty grim!
MANY girls are on vacation this month, so things may improve shortly.
Rio Cabana was still closed last time I checked (a few days ago) as was Dolys in Flores.
Sigh.
David
Can you update your top 10 Clubs for BA.
I like the GFE. Not to be rushed.
Some what like the termas in RIO not to sure if you are familiar.
I know there are no termas. But I like to hangout for a while at the club with out all the constant pressure.
Anyways if others want to post an updated top 10 locations to visit. Please post. 18 days away from my first trip to BA.
Thanks,
OMG