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[QUOTE=Hlover]Checked out this place with my porteno friend last night.
Very stylish club but extremely expensive. We ordered a water and cappucino which amounted to 60 pesos! Ouch!
Lineup was okay. Pretty faces with below average bodies. Comments from previous posts are positive. Again, cost / benefit may not work to the mongers advantage.[/QUOTE]Hlover,
Sounds like you had a bad night at this place. All I've ever had were good times at this places (Except for when the chica stole my phone at my apartment, got it back the next day though) This seems to be one of the few boliches that can compete with the quality and time allowance of website chicas IMHO of course.
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I stopped in here, price for my drink was 25p. About 10 girls, no customers when I arrived though later two separate groups of Asians came in. There were a few cute girls. I approached this girl (I think her name was Fabiana) to come talk with me at my table, but she is very distant and says she can't join me, she is waiting for a customer. I ask how long the customer will be, she says maybe an hour. But she couldn't join me for a drink!
Later the girl's friend comes over to sit with me. She is cute and friendly, but I don't considered her a candidate for take out. We chat awhile and at some point she of course asks if I would buy her a drink. I politely said no, maybe later. Later on, she went over to speak with the waitress, then returned to my table. Couple minutes later, waitress comes over with a drink for the girl. I say I didn't order it, and the girl starts getting a worried / red-faced look and the waitress gives the girl a hostile glance. To defuse the situation I just say OK no problem, I'll buy her this drink. It was 40p. Two minutes later I had paid my bill and left the club to show my disdain.
To top it off, as I exit the front door into the street, this hot young girl is getting out of a taxi and heads into the club. She is far hotter than anything I saw inside, and I would have been interested in her, but of course now I can't go back inside.
Man, was I pissed. Fortunately, I went straight to a club in Recoleta and the rest of the night was fantastic. A total 180 reversal.
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Rio Cabana - was great
I was there last week at about 7pm and took a 19 yr old young knockout blonde (no kids) Low mileage.
She quoted,
130 pesos - 1hr.
170 pesos - 2 hr.
But the barmen charged me 200 pesos for 2hr.
With my drink 30 pesos & chica drink 40 pesos.
270 pesos + 80 pesos (to a love hotel close by- Room salome')
= 350 pesos.
No cola, everything else.
No waitress or chicas forced me to buy any drinks.
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Beware of overcharges
A great price / quality ratio place, but BE CAREFUL. Honesty is not the #1 priority at this otherwise fine place, surprisingly.
Your drink plus chica drink: 70P.
Fee to leave (you pay for girl at bar, you can tip or not if you want later):
1 hr. 160 P.
2 hr. 200 P.
All night 315 P (may depend on hour, and you need to confirm and be clear about total hours with chica)
But beware of 'house math' when the bill comes, particularly if involving the semi-cute waitress. In two visits I was overcharged 10 pesos, and another time given 5 pesos too little change. And also I covered a friend's drink on one of those visits, only to learn they charged him separately for it after I left.
They have lost my business, and I let them know that very loudly. To their credit they issued a refund.
Someone, if you know him, please tell owner: if you steal from gringo customers, you will lose them. And they talk to each other.
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Anybody been here recently? I've met some hot girls here and am thinking about returning on my next trip to Buenos Aires.
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Same problem as below
Overcharged, dodgy negotiations regarding chicas, best to avoid I think.
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I was there about 6 weeks ago and have been there 5-6 times over the past year.
I would agree that you have to watch the bartender. He will add the odd 20 pesos to your tab now and again. But, that's the only problem I've ever had in terms of negotiations. I would also note that their Quillmes smells a bit rank, but perhaps that's normal.
That said, the selection here has always been pretty good. It's a small, clean club with about 5-7 girls during the late afternoon, and a few more later at night. Generally, the quality is up there, at least in my opinion. And, for a boliche, the price is pretty good -- AR$130 for an hour.
I wouldn't avoid it because it's a clip joint. I don't think that's true. The bartender just seems a bit math-challenged, and the errors are always in his favor. Just don't run a tab and I doubt you'll have any problems.
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[b]Never[/b] run a tab in [b]any[/b] of these clubs. [b]Always[/b] pay every round and be very ostentatious about doing so. Tell the waiter, the bartender, and the manager that you are doing this.
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I am sitting in Rio Cabana with a couple of other guys and this dude enters. He goes straight to every girl, about 20 of them, stands a foot or two away from them and stares them down for a few seconds. Couple of minutes after entering, he has selected his target for the night. He asks the girl to come with him with his hand but she ignores him. He walks over the barman and with the help of a girl translator makes his wishes known. The girl in questions is not interested from what I could see. She makes an unhappy ugly face at the man when his back is turned towards her. She makes a big scene when the guy goes to the bathroom. She becomes calm as he returns from the bathroom and leaves with him.
This man has no idea what is going on behind his back. Based on what I saw he most likely doesn't care.
- I am wondering what kind of experience will he have with a gril who seems repulsed by his actions.
- And don't the girls have a choice in Rio Cabana who they want to leave with.
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No, one of the issues with RC is that the chicas pretty much have to leave with whoever. Nuevo Estilo is like that too. I mean, they can refuse a few guys here and there but if they do it too much they get an ultimatum or get fired. Some of the Flores clubs are like that, too. I don't like that at all.
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Thats why you'll find the very best Mongers are good Salesmen.
There's an art to being a good Monger, thats where "Price & Product" come to gather with "Marketabilty & Desire". A good Monger must sell himself to the chica. This is done with "Respect & Salesmanship"
Once this is done and the Chica is sold on the idea of fucking you for money one can resonably expect a good experience.
Exon
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I was just in Rio Cabana this past Friday night and I must say it did not disappoint. I took a newbie friend of mine to Madaho's and he was totally amazed. I was really disappointed to find that the rates really are 600p for the hour and these girls will not budge from their exhorbanent prices. I was also told that it is true that Argentinos only have to pay 450p. This is unacceptable to me and I refuse to pay those gringo prices. My friend really found it difficult to have the self control I did in turning these girls down but I kept him from wasting his money. I told him I would take him to a place with cute chicas at much lower prices.
Funny thing about Madaho's is we had girls after girls coming over to sit down and talk to us. They said the economy is hurting their business but it doesn't seem to affect their business, just their sell is a lot more aggresive than it used to be. They asked us to buy them chica drinks but at 120p for a chica drink, again, I refused to pay it and continually said no. The best part was when the waitress came over to me and said the girls cannot sit and talk with us if we don't buy them drinks. I told her, "I'm not inviting them to come over here, they keep coming on their own." She then whispered something into the girl's ear and she got up and left. My buddy continued to talk to his girl and we said we would rather get her number and make an arrangement for him to see her while she wasn't working. She agreed and we got her number and he ended up taking her out on a date totally unrelated to her business. Good for him.
So last night we ended up at Rio after a long night and there were about 10-12 girls working. We ended up pulling a couple of Paraguayan girls out of there and brought them back to our apartment. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that the price was still only 130p for the hour or 350 for TLN. Less than 1/4 of Madaho's prices. Chica drinks were only 40p too. It seems inflation isn't affecting Rio like it has Madaho's. We both opted for the hour and neither one was a clock watcher. The service varied. My buddy had Mariza and I had Abril, a cute 20 year old. Mine gave a BBBJ but Mariza did not offer that to my buddy. I liked her service so much I gave Abril a 100p tip. She was so happy and thankful.
My buddy and I decided to return to Rio last night around 4:15am. There were 6 girls all sitting around a table. My intention was only to have a beer to finish off the night and we had no intention of pulling girls out of there. Instead we went over to their table and just sat down with the girls, completely uninvited, to be a part of their conversation. The one girl who was talking just stopped in midsentence and gave me this look like, "What the hell are you doing?" I sat down and said, "No, continue." She then continues to tell her story about one of her clients who was into cross dressing. This girl was sooooo funny with her stories. I won't give details about what she said because I don't want to reveal too much or offend certain people.
My buddy and I ended up inviting the girls out to eat with us after work at 5am. 5 of the 6 girls accepted and we walked to Plaza Serrano to a 24 hour cafe for some pizza, beer and nibblets. We ended up having two girls come back to our apartment. My buddy got a new chica meanwhile I got a free repeat with mine from Friday night. My buddie's chica stayed about 4 hours and they even slept together after the deed while mine stayed until 3:30 in the afternoon. What a night!
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Here are some pictues we took during our time at the cafe with the girls from Rio Cabana. The one in red and the one in white are both named Naomi and the blonde one is Carolina. She was sooo funny and I think she would be a fun lay.
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A Tad Disappointed
I stopped by Rio Cabana 3 times during my last trip to BA in mid-November. We use Rio as an in-between point between the conclusion of the previous night's activities and a warm-up for the current evening's festivities.
I must say, I was a bit disappointed each of the times I was there and never did take anything out. We generally were there between 4 pm and 9 pm on weekdays. This certainly is not prime mongering time. At most, there were ten girls there closer to 9pm, but in the late afternoon there are between 3 - 6 girls. I found nothing I liked on any of the three occasions we went in. They weren't far off the mark -- probably 6s -- but just a little too far below my cut-off to bother with the belt. The price certainly is right, and I realize that one can be too picky when it's the afternoon. Still, I thought the quality of chicas had declined a bit. Had Art's gals been in there during my trip, I would not have left without making a selection. But, alas, they were nowhere to be found.
I will add a couple of other general observations. First, the beer in the place was much better this trip than before. They had been serving some extremely rank Quillmes in the past. I think they had problems with their keg refrigerator or something. This time, it was much better. Still Quillmes, but at least it didn't smell of rotten fruit.
Second, I have been in this joint every three months or so for the past year (5-6 trips total) The selection of chicas is different each time. With the exception of two girls, I have never seen the same chicas working there from one trip to the next. It's a pity as there were some gems in past trips that no longer work. But, it also gives me hope that this last trip was an aberration, and there will be an all new cast the next trip. I'll definitely check in again.
Finally, of all the boliches I've been to, this one is the most dysfunctional. I'm not saying that it's dirty or dangerous in any way. On the contrary, it's clean and in a safe part of town. However, they really don't seem to tend to the business side of things.
It's frequently difficult to get the bartender's attention for a beer, and even then, they only serve one kind. There is definitely a no-approach policy at play for the chicas, but they take it to the extreme. Most of the girls sit at a table in clusters of two and three and chat or text the whole time you're in there. Few ever get up, except to go in the back room, and virtually none make any effort at eye contact. After a while, you get the impression that they could care less whether you take them or not, and perhaps that's the truth.
My recommendations to the owner would be:
A. If a chica is working, then she must be out on the showroom floor. No lounging about in the back room the entire time, which seems to be what happens at this place with at least half the chicas. I get the impression that the girls are there 12 hours a day, but they only head out to the showroom floor when they have to. Frequently, when you show up, there's no chicas present. In 15 minutes, three will come out, and then 5 minutes later another 3-4 will drift out, and they then come and go between showroom and backroom at will. Put a stop to this. If you're working, you're on the showroom floor.
Be. No texting while on the job. It just leads to chicas who are more interested in their cell phones than a potential hook-up.
C. While in the bar area, girls must stand. They can cluster a bit and talk to each other, but get them on their feet so the customers can have a look at their wares. They can take a 5 minute sit-down break in the back room every hour.
D. Have the girls greet the customers on occasion. It doesn't have to be too pressured or forced. Just walk up and say "Buenos Dias" or something and then move aside and let the patrons see the menu.
E. Use that pole / stage area in the center of the room! Granted, it's small. But send a chica up there to writhe a bit every once in a while. It can't hurt, and I might not leave unaccompanied next time if something piques my interest.
At any rate, I still like this place, but I was a bit disappointed this past junket. Hopefully, things will improve.
[QUOTE=Art Vandalay]Here are some pictues we took during our time at the cafe with the girls from Rio Cabana. The one in red and the one in white are both named Naomi and the blonde one is Carolina. She was sooo funny and I think she would be a fun lay.[/QUOTE]
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I like this place. The selection of chicas last time (almost a year ago) was very good. In fact I thought this club was a hidden gem. Mostly 7s and 8s and a few 9s. Sounds like it may have changed. But will have to see for myself.
I agree with your observations about the club Stan. They don't seem to make much effort to welcome you or make a sell. The place has almost no ambiance. Definately an odd place. But very clean and safe.
Not sure I agree with having them stand all the time. But they should offer a "line up", where they come over - one at a time - and briefly introduce themselves. Only if requested by a customer of course. That way you could meet them all and see them up close and learn their names.
I found the girls warm up / open up when you invite them over to talk.
I 'interviewed' several and they were all friendly. All were girl-next-door type, regular girls, pretty, early twenties, no silicone here. Took one out, good service with BBBJ.
Glad to hear the prices are still low! I am looking forward to visiting this place again and seeing what is available.