Words of Wisdom: Always negotiate!
[blue]I was motivated by a recent conversation with some well-heeled mongers to post a few of the best worded arguments for why guys need to negotiate with chicas regardless of their financial ability or personal disposition to pay the chicas whatever they ask.
[quote=Combo]This goes back to my ultimate reason for bargaining. If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)[/QUOTE][quote=Combo]In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.[/QUOTE][quote=Daddy Rulz]The way chicas respect strong men and hold weakness in contempt is a subject that can never be overstated. If you have her thinking she needs to impress you to get the dollars, then you're half way to a good fuck for less money. If on the other hand she senses blood in the water like the perfect predator she is, you're chum.[/quote][/blue]
The girls talk to each other and sometimes this is to our detriment
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It has happened to me that after three or four times doing this a girl I fancied the first time will come up and tell me she'll go out for what I originally offered.
The girls talk to each other and sometimes, bless them, it's to our benefit[/QUOTE]Yes the girls do talk to each other. And this does not always work in your favour. This can happen in clubs, in privados, and in Cafe Orleans. Say you've you've been taking girls out of a club for 300 then you weaken one night and take a girl out for 500. You may find that when next you try to negotiate with some of the other girls they are asking for 500 and won't come down in price. In a privado, if you feel tempted to offer a tip of 50p for "outstanding service" don't be surprised when you go with another girl from the same place, she goes cool on you when you don't give her a 50p propina as well. In Orleans last year I took out a couple of nice looking looking girls for 200p and had a good time with both. Then one day in walks a real stunner. I paid 300p. The sex was well below average. Next time I went in there, both girls I had previously taken out for 200p absolutely refused to budge below 300p.
Extranjeros should pay more - why? Because they can?
[QUOTE=Isola2000]Maybe I started this "not to negotiate thing", but I did not mean that you accept what a chica asks for.
YOU set the price, and NO negotiations and no talk.
Re price.[/QUOTE]My apartment is not far from a number of Recoleta boliches and I've been taking advantage of 'special' offers to have a drink and chat with some of the girls on evenings when things are quiet. The girls invariably start asking a minimum 300p or US$100, and will often ask 350p, 400p or US$150. Except in Madahos I have had no trouble in getting girls to accept 200p for the hour. I took a Paraguaya spinner out the last week for 200p. Perfect body and good company, but disappointingly restrained in bed for a Paraguaya. Afterwards we were having a chat about business and she said normally with extranjeros she never accepts less than 300p, but admitted that she has no problem going with locals for 200p. Then why did you go with me for 200p? I asked, is it because I speak Spanish? No she laughed, your Spanish isn't that great, but you speak Portena Spanish, and you seemed to know your way around here, so I decided to accept 200p. She continued, "The thing is that extranjeros, especially the North Americans, usually just accept it when I ask 300p or even 350p. It's not just me, its the same with all the girls. Some of the Europeans and the Brazilians try to bargain, but because they are usually here for a short time on business or holiday they usually don't seem to mind paying more either. Anyway they've got much more money so its only fair they should pay more. "
I've had conversations about this with girls in other clubs around here and in Newport and get much the same story. I can't help feeling that this two level pricing structure is going to become the norm in clubs frequented by well-heeled short-term visitors.