Exactly what kind of help do you expect to receive?
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Exactly what kind of help do you expect to receive?
[blue]Ferrari,
Silvina wrote a very polite response to your post, but after I talked with her about the situation and I read the dozens of PM's she has exchanged with you over the past month, I decided to delete her post and instead take this opportunity to set you straight.
You're an asshole, or at least you play one on the Internet.
Here are the facts.
In the past several weeks, since you first contacted her about your visit to BA, Silvina has responded to dozens of your PMs answering countless of your questions about BA and the scene here.
Eventually, you sent her a list of 12 Internet chicas that interested you, along with your request that she contact them and offer each of them $100 pesos per hour for the pleasure of your company. Silvina advised you then that it was very doubtful that any of the model quality chicas you selected would be interested in $100 pesos per hour, but that she would call all the chicas, ascertain their situation (nationality, authenticity of their photos, age, services offered, price, availability, etc), all for a paltry $20.00 USD, which you subsequently agreed to pay.
In the next couple of days she called (or left messages and waited for return calls and then called again and again and again until she made contact) every chica on your list, upon which she sent you a written summary with each chica's details, including the fact that none of the chicas you selected were interested in working for $100 pesos per hour.
BTW, she's still waiting to see the money in her PayPal account.
In the mean time, you also asked her to help you find a hotel for "under $50.00 dollars" per night. Even though that's not her job, she went online and made some telephone calls and send you information on several hotels that fit your budget. Of course, after deciding that the $50.00 per night hotels weren't up to your standards, you advised her that you would be willing to pay $60.00 per night, upon which she made more telephone calls and sent you additional hotel information.
You also asked her for advice on finding a suitable transitorio near your hotel because your "traveling companion" in your hotel room couldn't know of your mongering activities, and thus you would need to meet the chicas elsewhere. Again, even though it's not her job, she made the calls and sent you the information on several local transitorios.
A couple of days ago, after realizing that you weren't going to get any top Internet chicas for a 50% discount, you sent Silvina another list of 5 chicas culled from your original list, along with your request that she call the 5 chicas again and offer them $200 pesos per hour, with a specific list of days and times you would be available. The best part was your condition that you would only pay Silvina her $10 dollar appointment fee if the chica that showed up for the appointment matched the photo on the website, otherwise too bad. What a fucking asshole!
Silvina advised you, as she had all along, that the majority of the photos of internet girls are either doctored, outdated, come-ons, or otherwise disingenuous, and that the only chicas that she could personally guarantee would match the photos were the girls she has featured in her section of this website because she knew the girls personally and took these photos herself. Of course, she had been telling you this all along, but the advice apparently continued to fall on deaf ears.
Anyway, Silvina did what you asked, left messages with all the chicas, and waited for their return call, and then called them again until she got through to each of them, only to learn that four of them were simply not available at any time during your three day visit, and the 5th chica wanted $100 USD per hour. Nevertheless, Silvina prepared a written summary of the situation of each chica, which she sent to you yesterday. This is apparently the information upon which you based your "no chicas" comment.
BTW, she's still waiting to see the money in her PayPal account.
The fact is that Silvina went out of her way to try to help you, in which she has expended many hours of her time and which has cost her several dozen pesos in cellphone airtime, and for which she has received nothing more than your publicly posted complaint, for which you so richly deserve this public rebuke.
[b]Asshole, call the chicas yourself and make your own appointments.[/b]
Forget about the $20.00 you owe to Silvina, I'll give her the money myself.
Sincerely,
Jackson[/blue]
[I]"Never argue with a man who buys ink by the gallon."[/i]
Good for you Jackson for calling him out.
Atention asshole mongers: Please go to Brazil, Thailand or Costa Rica. Leave the graceful city of BA and its passionate and lovely chicas alone.
"Never argue with a man who buys ink by the gallon."
Also, never dick around the girlfriend of the guy who writes in blue I reckon. This guy does seem like an asshole. Christ He's cheaper than Richard T.
Thumbs up for Jackson.
Silvina has been a lady about it.
What this dumb Mother Fucker "Ferrari" doesn't realize is that Roxana & Silvina are trying to make a living out of servicing us Mongers with service's we cannot provide for ourselves. I. E. They know Buenos Aires, its customs & cultures, plus the fact they speak Spanish which most of us don't or at least not like they do.
Having heard the whole story from Jackson, Silvina's boy friend, I come to find out this Fucker has sent Silvina countless e-mails which she has followed up on using her cell phone and of course the minutes and charges that come with it, not to mention the time involved. (Time is Money) Then the Cocksucker "Stiff's" her, doesn't pay her.
All of us Mongers, especially the Newbies, should realize that no one works for "Nothing" and the same holds true in Argentina. Thease girls have become prostitutes because they need the money. Argentina is a very poor country with over 40 percent of the country living below the poverty line.
I have many, many friends in Buenos Aires both Chica's and Chico's and the principle reason is I pay my own way. I'll give the waiter an extra 10 peso's in the restruant, (think about it $3 bucks US dollars) or the girl a little extra money for the Taxi, that will buy more good will than anything one can do.
Maybe, I guess the bottom line is in Argentina as in anywhere else if you treat people with respect pay them fairly it will come back to you 10 fold. You get what you pay for.
All over the world Money dosen't talk, "It Screams"
Exon
I just finished reading the posts on Ferreri. As a consultant, I am well aware you can not please every client, but having met both these ladies, IMHO they both have too much class to tell a client to "F*** Off", even one like Ferreri. Glad Jackson is around to do it for her. As for me, I have nothing but praise for them both as their assistance during my trip has been invaluable.
FYI, I believe I may have seen this "gentleman" in Cafe Orleans on the 28th, seemed to have a really bad attitude, but just my opinion.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]Good for you Jackson for calling him out.
Atention asshole mongers: Please go to Brazil, Thailand or Costa Rica. Leave the graceful city of BA and its passionate and lovely chicas alone.[/QUOTE]No, not Brazil, anywhere else, please.:)
[QUOTE=MoonDog]No, not Brazil, anywhere else, please.:)[/QUOTE]Can't we just make them stay in the US? I don't do much in CR or Thailand, but they deserve better as well! Let see, maybe keep all the Ferrari's in Italy?
[QUOTE=MoonDog]No, not Brazil, anywhere else, please.:)[/QUOTE]We drop them off in the middle of a favela (sp?) At midnight, wearing a nice shiny watch and bling bling around their neck! Problem solved!
Bro if you are still in BA, let me know.
Strad.
[QUOTE=Ferrari]Hey guys,
I am flying off tomorrow. I am going to Santiago de Chile first. I will be in BA on 28, 29, 30 June. Let's meet at either Cafe Orlean if any of you are free. I will be wearing a black jacket, a blue jean and a black boots. Black hair and about 6 feet tall.
Say after 10pm? See you there.
Ciao.
Ferrari[/QUOTE]
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
During the dinner for Roxana's birthday on Monday, she happen to ask me if I knew a forum member that goes by the handle "BigAsian". It seems that she and / or her assistant had made 16 appointments for the guy and his friend and apparently they both left town without paying her for the last 11 appointments. I didn't know who he was, but I told her that perhaps it was just a mistake and maybe the guy forgot to leave an envelope for her at the hotel's front desk, etc. and that I would send him an email.
So the next day I sent him the following email:
[quote=Jackson]Hi Dave,
Roxana advised me today that you apparently forgot to pay her for all the of the appointments that she and Mariana made for you and your associate.
As I understand it, she and Mariana made a total of 14 appointments for you and your friend, and that you paid her for 5 of the appointments, with a remaining balance of 9 appointments plus $10 for the taxi to go to your hotel to collect the fee, for a balance of $100 USD.
Is or was there some reason that you don't wish to pay her? Was there some problem with her service? If not, can you pay her this last $100 by Paypal? Or would you prefer to mail the cash or a check to me and I will pay her myself in your behalf?
Please let me know your thinking.
Thanks,
Jackson[/quote]Please Note: Roxana and Mariana made a total of 16 appointments for these guys, but Roxana credited Big Asian for 2 appointments wherein he ultimately rejected the chica that arrived.
The next day I received the following response:
[quote=BigAsian]I guess she apprently DIDN"T tell you that there were a few no-shows. Her asst was very differicult to deal with. I only pay for services render. If I ask to change a time; FUCKING CHANGE THE TIME. You are nothing but a fucking secretary. I don't need you fucking tell me the long winded story about babh bah bah; I'm going to screw up the girl schedule blah blah blah. I don't need a fucking lecture. If I wanted a lecture I would just talk to my girlfriend.
I also don't appricate the fact that you tell me that you are sending over "2 tall model, I ask for their photo, you have none, and 2 short fucking ugly chick showed up". NOT TALL MODEL. NOT EVEN TALL! I was nice enough to give me taxi money back. Who should pay for this? Dare I say "BAIT AND SWITCH"
FYI: this would not have happen if I just deal w / roxanne. I was down there last yr. Roxanne made sure everything was smooth. Her asst fucking sucks.
END OF DISCUSSION.[/quote]Whoa! Such an aggressive attitude, like a thief who's been caught in the act. What I can't figure is, if Roxana's assistant was so bad, then why did they continue calling her and requesting additional appointments, 16 in total?
Wait, I know the answer: He was planning to skip town without paying her, so it didn't matter.
Now Roxana had told me that "BigAsian" and his friend had proven to be very difficult to work with, including making several last minute cancellations that cost the chicas their time, plus insisting that Roxana somehow guarantee the authenticity of the girls that they selected that Roxana didn't even know.
I responded as follows:
[quote=Jackson]Yeah, right.
1. If her assistant was so bad, then why did you continue to request additional appointments?
2. Neither Roxana or her assistant have any control of what chick actually shows up for the appointment, but then you already know what, don't you?
Jackson[/quote]Out of my own curousity, I decided to see what, if anything, this guy may have posted in the Forum:
[quote=BigAsian]Yo man, You can't keep that shit to yourself. Post that shit. Or send me a copy w / your face wipe out. I really don't need to see your ugly face. (or hairy ass)[/quote]And.
[quote=BigAsian]What time on March 3?
And we should be allow to bet chica. I call your (chica) and raise you (chica) payment made at end of night. You could have 5-10 chica all line up for you after the game!
Or even better: Topless Chica Dealers![/quote]Well, it's obvious to me that this guy has a real attitude problem, and with equal certainty he isn't going to pay Roxana as he agreed now that he's successfully skipped town.
Anyway, here's his email address in case some of you might want to send him a message letting him know what you think of his behavior.
[email]motrader@hotmail.com[/email]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
I have had the pleasure of using both Roxana and her assistant over the years and have never had a complaint. They are only the middle man (uh woman) and control neither the product nor its quality. If this guy had such a problem, he should be making his own appointments. Wait a minute, I'll bet he does not speak Spanish so that is why he used Roxana in the first place.
It is a shame there is always a turd in the puch bowl making us look bad. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=Ferrari]Let's meet up at Cafe Orlean. I would love to meet you guys. I am an Italian Chinese. Look more Chinese than Italian.
Ferrari.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ferrari]Hey guys,
I will be wearing a black jacket, a blue jean and a black boots. Black hair and about 6 feet tall.
Ferrari[/QUOTE]Any chance Big Asian and Ferrari are the same asshole?
It sure does sound like these 2 guys are the same guy or clones!
Coach