Iguazu

[Ben There]

I am coming back to BA for a business trip, but I am heading up to Iguazu for a quick trip before work. Anything about anything guys. Hotels, chicas. The board was good for my last visit to BA, so don't leave me hanging!

[SmilesX]

"if you go to the brazilian side there is a place called Crystals as soon as you cross the border from Argentina. I didn't go so I'm not sure how it is or how much is cost. Some friends went and they had fun but that is all the info I have. If your adventurous go check it out and report back."

Whatever you do don't look at Crystal, not even an eye blink. This place is pure evil. Their pricing sturcutre blows some of the LA / NY clubs away. I went in without knowing what the prices were and came out with a 150 $us tab. The chica I was with asked for a drink. The bartender comes back with a champagne bottle which I find out was 50 $us.

After and hour of misery. They had no strip show at the time, I decide to bolt. I refused to pay for the champagne. After much confrontation thru a translator (a taxi dude) we decided that I should only pay a chic drink ($20 US)

That's was an expensive lesson. Let no other monger fall victim to this overinflated hell hole. 75 bucks and saw no tits? If I wanted to drink beer there were cheaper ways.

As for the the chica pricing it's 150 us dollar an hour. Only two of which I saw were 8 material. Others just homely and 5-7 caliber.

But to repeat DON'T LAY A FOOT IN CRYSTAL. YOU'LL REGRET IT.

[Vertigo]

If you go to the brazilian side there is a place called Crystals as soon as you cross the border from Argentina. I didn't go so I'm not sure how it is or how much is cost. Some friends went and they had fun but that is all the info I have. If your adventurous go check it out and report back.

[Tequila Tim]

Count,

I was in Iguazu in March and stayed at Hotel Saint George on the Argentinian side. Nice location in centro (I'd rate it 3 stars) and they had a promotional rate on thier web site. I took a girl up so I'm not sure of the PFP scene but there is a casino there so I'd imagine you could troll there. Mayra, who's been mentioned on the board numerous times set the trip up for me and did a great job for a $us20 commission. One note: The hotel will try to sell you numerous tours but you can catch a municipal bus to the park for 4 pesos (I think) The falls are awesome, I'd definitely go again! Have a great time.

TT

[Count Chocula]

Anyone have information on Iquazu - recommended hotels, any chica action?

I will be visiting next week and will try a no visa taxi tour of Foz following justmoi's recommendations. Will post on my return.

[Roger]

I will be visiting Iguacu (Brazil) later this summer, with a possible trip to Iguazu (Argentina) I have read the information posted here, but would appreciate an update from anyone who has recently visited this part of Brazil / Argentina. Recommendations and updates regarding hotel and finding chicas will be greatly appreciated. I'll post a report after my return. Roger.

[Moore]

Big Ben is the colloquial name of the Clock Tower of the Palace of Westminster in London, and an informal name for the Great Bell of Westminster, the largest bell in the tower and part of the Great Clock of Westminster. Locals may refer to it by a different name.

I agree that one should visit many regions of Argentina but as Dirk says its a matter of preference. Pristine, alpine areas are more my idea of paradise and much of Patagonia does not have harsh weather (except wind on open plains that you dont visit anyway) due to its proximity to both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans (its not a continental climate). If one is accustomed to Cleveland winters, winter in Bariloche or even Ushuaia seems downright balmy, very mild with rain sometimes. Cordoba also kicks ass as a lake/hill/spring region with very pretty natives in the villages and beerhauses. Tell them you're German and you'll get a salute in some places

I personally don't care for climates that are hotter and more humid than the worst day of the year in New Orleans or Bangkok (I lived in one for years). Although Iguazu Falls may be untouched, it is naturally filthy, brown, and steamy like a midsummer turd in Saigon. Its just my opinion and I realize I may represent the minority, but Iguazu would not be higher than 4th on my list of recommended Argentine destinations outside of BA.

[Flexible Horn]

[QUOTE=Moore]DownSouth,

Everyone goes to Iguazu, that is what any travel guide recommends! Don't forget to visit Black and Big Ben too.

What or who is Big Ben?

FH

[Rock Harders]

Mongers-

I have been to both Patagonia (several places) and Iguazu, and I do not really think you can compare the two, because they are totally different. To begin with, one is located in a tropical rainforest with IMO, great weather (I'm a warm weather guy) and the other is located in a cold area with some of this planet's worst and most unpredicable weather. Perito Moreno and Las Cataratas are both visually stunning in their own way, the sheer massiveness of Perito is truly awe inspiring, while Las Cataratas give one the feeling of truly having "paradise found". On the one hand Patagonia is really not all touristed out, it is still truly wild and unconquered, and some hardcore adventures can be had, trekking, climbing etc. Iguazu is pretty touristy- the paths are paved, and even an elderly person could walk the trails and enjoy the views of the falls, and there are always tons of people around you are sharing the experience with. In much of my Patagonia experience, it was me, the trekking guide, the one other person on the trek, and at least 10 miles in every direction from any human being. It was so quiet, that the only noise you could hear was the occaisonal avalance on the other side of the valley. In the jungle outside Iguazu, I did go rappelling down waterfalls and fly through the jungle on a zipline, but it was way more touristed out than I like and not hardcore at all.

I think that every person on earth (or that has the brains to come to Argentina) should really see both Iguazu and Patagonia, because I feel that there really is nothing like them on this planet.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

[Moore]

DownSouth,

Scratch Iguazu and go to Perito Moreno glacier in Patagonia (entirely in Argentina, no visa req) instead. Much more impressive than Iguazu Falls in the opinion of this monger, who considers himself an aficionado of natural wonders.

Everyone goes to Iguazu, that is what any travel guide recommends! Don't forget to visit Black and Big Ben too

Perfect time of year for the glaciers (approaching autumn).

[Party BMW]

I was wondering if you had to have a visa to enter Brasil? Will taking a taxi across the border get you around this problem? I will be in BA in 10 days and plan a side trip to the falls.

Thanks in advance!

Taking a taxi will get around this problem. The taxi will take you through the Brazil border he will submit your passport and into Brazil you go. Its like the taxi is your tour guide and return ticket.

[Rock Harders]

Downsouth-

I have been to Iguazu, and I can say that the views from the Argentine and Brasilian sides are different in the way that apples and bananas are different- its all personal preference. The Argentine side has better jungle trails, and you walk out right over the rivers that lead to the waterfalls, giving the feeling of being "in the middle" of the falls. The Brasilian side offers a more panoramic view, photogenic view of the falls. Technically, a visa is needed to cross into Brasil-HOWEVER- the guy at the borderpost just stamped the entry / exit at the same time and did not do the Interpol entry or the fingerprinting that is required as a reciprocy for US policy because there was a futbol game he was in the middle of watching. Also, I heard from reliable sources that if you take a taxi or public bus across the border that the authorities just look the other way.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

[Flexible Horn]

IMHO, the best side to take pictures from is the Brazilian side looking towards the Argentinian side.

The most fun is taking the speed boat ride up into the falls.

FH

[AllIWantIsLove]

I was wondering if you had to have a visa to enter Brasil? Will taking a taxi across the border get you around this problem? I will be in BA in 10 days and plan a side trip to the falls.

You don't need to go to Brazil to see the falls. You can view them from the Argentine side. There are debates about which view is better, but I can tell you that the view from the Argentine side is spectacular. I can't compare the two views because I have never viewed them from the Brazilian side.

Bob

[DownSouth]

There is a way to cross the border into Brazil. Take a tour with a taxi into Foz no visa.

Went to Crystal no lookers in 10 minutes it was empty. Went to a local club at the sheraton or nice hotel can't remember. Beautiful girls dancing, didnt mingle much.

Remember Brazil is 1 hour ahead of Argentina.

I was wondering if you had to have a visa to enter Brasil? Will taking a taxi across the border get you around this problem? I will be in BA in 10 days and plan a side trip to the falls.

Thanks in advance!