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  1. #70
    Larry, I have a quick question, and it's not meant to be a smart ass one. Why would you need to lie to a pro? You're paying more than top dollar, and they know you're there to screw. What difference does it make to lie to them, other than they'll quickly think that all guys will lie about any and everything. (They probably have that opinion anyway.)

    I understand that sometimes if you're looking to hook up with a non-pro that you're not going to tell her that you're there banging anything decent that moves.

  2. #69
    Hey Saint! Everything worked out great with the apartment and the Four Seasons. As always thanks for all your great info. (I'm really itching to get back to Columbia after reading your reports.)

    Also--big thanks to Moondog for his great guidance.

    PART TWO: RECOLETA AND AMATUERS

    First night in BA I was intent on hitting all my favorite clubs in Recoletta, figuring to see some old stalwarts and some new faces. After my excellent experience with Laura from Orleans, I cabbed it back to the Four Seasons. Lounged around in my boxers. Took a long soak in the tub. Then got dressed and walked to the main tourist area of Recoleta around 9ish.

    The weather was truly superb. Like something out of postcard. I ended up trying a place that was new to me on that main carless drag (where the Etoile is located). The restaurant's name was Lola and the fare was above average. (I normally don't like eating in this area as it reminds me of a tourist trap but since it was such a damn pleasant evening--and i wanted to hit the clubs earlier rather than later, I subcombed to the restaurants charms. I dined solo and read the Buenos Aires Herald and Clarin. The meal for one that included a bottle of wine and three courses came to 44 pesos. Not bad, eh?

    It was now getting close to 11pm so I decided to check my email in the underground internet center next door to Newports. And around 11:30 I ambled over to Madajos for my first taste of the recoleta club scene in several months.

    On this the club had approximately 20 chicas working. 15 of them were not really up to my standards (i would have happily banged any of them, but the truth is when you're in one of these clubs you're really fishing for something extraordinary. After about 45 minutes of spying the talent I grab hold of a very tan skinny gal, age 24, with what appears to be legitimate C cups and very attractive face. I would conservative rate her as a 7--probably the prettiest girl in the club on this night. She had the look of a Jersey Italian chick from my college days down the shore. She said her name was Barbara. And after talking for a good ten minutes I bought her a drink. She asked me where I was staying and I told her that I just relocated to BA for 6 months and that I was moving into an apartment in a day. But tonight I was staying at a regular hotel.

    This chica seemed a bit professional to me. She didn't come across anywhere nears as warm as my Columbian from earlier in the day, but this one was much hotter and I wanted to test drive as many hotties as possible on this trip.

    So with no futher ado, I negotiated 3 hours for $250 pesos with the promise of a propina if she performed well.

    We leave the club and are back at my regular hotel in 5 minutes in a cab. The girl immediate perks up when she sees the hotel. And when we enter my suite all of the hardness melts away. She feels the need to confirm the fib I told her about staying in BA for six months. "yes, mi amor, its the god's honest truth".

    I run the shower. Hand her a towel and nicely direct her into the shower. Afterwhich, I do the same. And then we get down to business.

    We start with an above average BBBJ. She has a tiny mouth, and does a little too much shaft licking for my tastes. After only 5 minutes, I decide to get down to some straight humping. She puts the rubber on with her mouth and I enter her missionary style. PROBLEMO NUMERO UNO. Barbara won't allow me to really nail her. She keeps her hips angled away from me so that I can't really deeply enter her. What's more, she won't let me bend her legs back.

    I request doggie and its more of the same. She's pretty tight and she keeps up the "protect the snatch game". I then have her climb on top of me and she rides me very tentatively.

    Finally I ask to finish me off with her mouth. This request she meets with a bit of what I perceived to be aggravation.

    I take the condom off and she proceeds with her below average skills. I coach her to use her hands and she finally gets me off with a yank job that made me wish I had repeated with my columbian spinner from Orleans.

    An hour has passed and I have no desire to try to repeat with this girl. She isn't mean. She just isn't into getting slammed in bed. And quite frankly, I really want to ram these girls. I don't want to make love to them. NOTE TO SELF: choose bigger girls next time.

    I ask Barbara to leave (its around 1AM by now) and she seems shocked that I don't want her to stay. She quickly dresses and leaves without a propina. She asks for taxi fare back to the club. (And I tell her that the fare was 2.30 and she laughs at my excellent point).

    I consider calling in some snapper from Clarin but decide to call it night.

    DAY TWO

    Today I make a vow to myself that I am going to proposition ten hot chicks that work in the stores of Florida street. I ve always been a firm believer in the numbers game and when I was in college, I used to hit everything that moved with a high degree of success. (Sure 7 out of 10 girls would tell me to piss off, but the 3 that said yes usually were wild sluts).

    Anyway, I breakfast at the FS and head down to Flordia street around 11:30 am.
    I won't bore you with the details of my exploits, but it took me a while to find ten chicas to proposition. Many of the girls in the stores where a bit too young, others were a tad too middle-class to picked up by a gringo business man with little spanish. Needless to say, I completed my task around 1pm and was outrightly rejected by 5 girls....4 girls seemed flattered by my overtures but our language barrier prevented me putting in the kill. And 1 girl that worked in a lingerie store seemed like a full-blown player. She gave me here telephono number and we made a date for that night. (her name was Noemi and she was around 32; very tall; big knockers and a healthy ass; she probably was 20 lbs overweight and had a small tummy. But her face was very sexy and tan.)

    That afternoon, I went back to the FS and had a date with the famous escort Sandra (Escorts-Argentina). This was the first time that I've seen her. On previous trips, she was never reachable. I negotiated two hours at 300 pesos. She arrived promptly and looked great. She's probably 35 years old but sexy as hell. And her skills are excellent as is her personality. The two hours went by like a flash because we talked a great deal. If she wasn't a pro, I would enjoy having her as a regular girlfriend. As it was, I made an appointment for her to visit me at my new apartment wth one of her girlfriends later in the week.

    That night, I took my amatuer Noemi from the lingerie store to dinner in Palermo Soho at restaurant whose name escapes me in the famous circle plaza with all the other restaurants. Very fun area with young kinds in their twenties. After dinner we went for a drink at a pretentious club that reminded me of a Russian cum Miami lounge. It was called Public. The girl new it well. And we set in the back of the restaurant in the garden (two tables only). Most of the night was exhausting because of my lack of spanish. Luckily for me she did most of the talking in the form of statements that didn't require my responses. And thankfully most of her statements contained words that I understood so that I could generally follow the gist of her talk, if not the complete ideas. Every now and then, I would ask her a simple quesion. But I must say that its pretty tough dragging out a meal without a translator with a regular girl.

    Be that as it may, at a certain point the booze kicked in and I simply reached over and felt her breast while we sipped wine in the garden at public. She didn't slap my face. So I took this as a sign to kiss her. She went along with this so I asked her to accompany back to my hotel for a drink. She looked at me with a knowing smile and agreed. We cab it back for around 5 pesos, and up in my suite I'm thinking that this girl is probably a semi-pro or at the least an opportunistic free-lancer. But my jadded world view was off this time.

    She was legitimate amatuer. And she would only make out with me. And anytime I would place her hand on my shlong she would laugh and pull away and say "too soon!"

    After an hour of playing this high school game she could sense that was getting frustrated. And in fact, I tried to bring the evening's silly farce to an end. Here she surprised me and finally relented to fucking me. But it was really a blah experience with a woman that I felt remorse for afterwards. She really was looking for a boyfriend and I had deceived her. To make matters worse, later on, to assuage my guilty conscience I offered her taxi fare (100 pesos; pretending that I didn't have change--and she bristled; highly insulted that I thought she was a puta)

    I would have been wiser calling up 6 hardened hookers from clarin than wasting this woman's time.

    I packed her off with promises (more lies) to call her soon and went to bed after draining the mini-bar of scotch. No amount of booze could wipe away my guilt. For whatever reason, this woman really depressed me. Life (and men) had run her through the mill and she was destined to always be a victim.

    NEXT REPORT: MY APARTMENT & A DUPLA FROM THE NEW PLAYWOMAN

  3. #68
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    LA Larry,

    Glad you are having fun. It's hard to do BA wrong huh? You're living it up in style! The Four Seasons is awesome. I told you! I'm glad it's all working out. I want to thank you again as your series of initial reports 2 years ago helped convince me to go to Buenos Aires. Do you ever go back and read the old reports? It's kind of fun to reminisce the first couple trips. Eh?

    I hope your apartment works out great. I told you that you had nothing to worry about with the big deposit you put down. I'm glad it's working out for you.

    Congratulations on your divorce. I remember reading you might get divorced. I'm sure you got hit as hard as I did (maybe worse). Once you survive a divorce and shelling out all that money you can make it through anything in life.

    I'm looking forward to reading more of your reports. I'm planning on hitting Eastern Europe this summer so maybe we can share a drink and talk about our favorite city. Take it easy amigo.

    Saint

    P.S. Yeah, the nicer places add up and aren't cheap but you can't take money with you when you're in the ground. Ha, ha. Glad you're living it up. You only live once.

  4. #67
    LA - Well I'm sure you might get some extra service, but it has a tendancy to make all the girls ask for more. They figure that all gringos have a lot of money. This is one reason that I always negotiate price before I leave. One of the reasons why BA is so attractive to come to is that most of the country is affordable. Apartments, food and chicas.

    I haven't pulled from Excedra, but I think 100-150 is average. I should ask the masters, Exon or El Raton.

  5. #66
    MM, it's sad to hear about the waiter/hustler at Hook. I had a lot of good times there, and never had any fake money or hustle whatsoever. Guys like this will only drive good customers away. I'd go in there with the other two guys and confront the owner with this info.

    I've never been ripped off for more than a few pesos from a bartender (who seemed to think they should take the tip out themselves), but I remember what I and the girl drink.

  6. #65
    Short Trip Report March 2004 Buenos Aires

    Part one

    Note: I've visted BA a number of times and I am a huge fan of the city. Before delving into my report, I should fill you in a tiny bit about my background so that you can understand what informs my opinions.

    I'm from LA. I work for an Multi-national Company. I'm in my mid forties. Recently divorced. And for the last couple of years, I have been "stationed" in Eastern Europe. (Mostly Moscow, Prague, Budapest.). I make a decent salary, spend 80% of my time in large International Hotels, and have a fairly liberal expense account. Therefore, when I hobby, I'm not into negotiating too much with the chicas in so far as price is concerned. (However, I do negotiate what I expect in "la cama"). I mention all this because I probably spent an extra 1000 bucks over the course of three weeks being overly generous with the chicas. My rationale is that its chicken feed to me and it seems to definately make a difference to the girls (and the waiters, cab drivers, concierges, etc). Moreover, without question, the girls perform better when they think they have a potential sugar daddy on the hook. That's an out and out fact. Especially if you rent and apartment in the city (and you tell them that you've been relocated there for a year).

    At the time of this writing 200 pesos is around 69 US Dollars. The weather was truly exceptional (compared to Moscow) around 26 C every day with bright sun and low humidity. The evenings were cool but not chilly; sometimes I would wear a light sweater. I never wore a coat. Nor did I ever use the big golf umbrella I packed.

    Also--as a test, I decided that I would try an herbal supplement of "horny goat weed plus" distributed by a company called Only Natural Inc. (www.onlynaturalinc.com). Had read about it on the CH board and figured that it was worth a test. I took two tablets a day approx. 2 weeks prior to my trip. And I tried to take 3 tablets per day in Argentina. I also drank a ton of water. IMHO, the stuff really works great. Not as instantly intense as Viagra. But I definitely sensed a significant difference in my performace. Viagra seems to give me instant wood whereas Horny Goat Weed Plus didn't, but once I was hard, I remained hard just like viagra. I also experienced no side affects. Later on in my trip I ran out of the pills and defaulted back to Vitamin V. In the future I will always make this stuff a part of my routine. (I bought the tablets at the chain store "The Vitamin Shoppe" for 8 bucks.)

    I flew down to BA on American. Smooth, uneventful flight. (Took some melatonin and slept soundly for at least 6 hours--doubled the recommened dose). Forwhatever reason, I never experience jet lag flying to Argentina on these overnight trips.

    At EZE, breezed through customs and was greeted by my driver (arranged by the Four Seasons). Arrived at the Four Seasons in about 25 minutes; no traffic.

    This is the first time I have stayed at the FS in BA, but Saint recommended it to me highly and I thank him for the endoresment. The hotel is very plush and the staff is extremely accomodating. I stayed in the tower in a suite that ran me approximately 400 US dollars per night (after two nights I moved on to my rented apartment). Very pricey, but I wanted this trip to be really special.

    Anyway, Hit the ground running. Took a quick shower, a long nap, woke around 4pm and made some phone calls to the states and then proceeded directly to Cafe Orleans. There was a smattering of some 12 girls. Mostly 5s with a couple of decent 6s thrown in. Nothing exceptional, But I wasn't expecting anything exceptional (there also were a ton of guys in the joint; something that I had never witnessed before) I called a a buxom gal over who looked exactly like WENDY on the Escorts-Argentina board. Perhaps it was in fact her. Because she looked older than the pics and a tad heavier. In about 5 seconds, I asked her point blank in my terrible spanish, "how much for complete service?" (Kinda hilarious now that I think of it, summoning over a gal, and quickly posing an anal question, but it seemed perfectly acceptable to her--so there you are!) Anyhow, the buxom Wendy look alike demurs and says that she doesn't do that. We part company and I decide to take it on the arches.

    Like a fiend, I scurry up Florida street (its around 5pm now) and the pedestrain only shopping district is agog with people rushing home. At Tucaman street I make a left turn and to my dismay, I discover that the old reliable establishment above the lingerie store is bolted shut. (Is is closed down for good?)

    Now more determined than ever, I turn back around and hit Cutty Sark. (a veritable funeral parlor at 5:15pm; three girls sitting on couches, and no bartender. I quickly bolt and go into a new bar next door to Cutty Sark called LADIES with a door man out front. DO NOT PATRONIZE THIS DUMP. The three girls they employed there were unacceptable and they had the balls to charge me 20 pesos for a water sin gas. Its a rip off joint. You've been warned.

    I decide that Orleans is my best bet so I high tail it back. Storm right in and choose immediately a 26 year old spinner from Medellian Columbia by the name of Laura (lives here with her daughter and mother). Laura must be no taller than 5 feet. She isn't beautiful but she is very cute and sexy. I would rate her fairly as a 6 with nice little b cups, a nice ass, tight stomach. Black curly hair.

    We hustle around the corner to the Horizonte Hotel and take a room on the 6th floor for 40 pesos. The girl proceeds to give me an incredible GFE. She initiates DFK in the elevator. She's happy as a clam. Laughing, Caressing me, squeezing my balls, etc.

    Inside the room, we shower together and she proceeds to give me an incredible BBBJ with 90% deep throating. Incredible technique. (If my ex wife could suck dick like her, we'd still be married; I'm not being facetious). The actual sex was fine but Laura is built very small and you can't really get a good pounding in. So, no worries, I asked her to finish me off with her "boca". She happily obliged with a toe curling suck job that rivaled some of the best I've ever received. She jerked me off all over her mouth and then rubbed the jiz all over her face like a true porn star. FANTASTIC! (VIVA BUENOS AIRES!)

    After cleaning up, for some reason, I wanted to got back to my hotel and rest up for the nights activity in Recoleta clubs. TOTAL COST OF LAURA FROM ORLEANS 200pesos plus 40 for the hotel. (She would have stayed for multiple rounds)

    MORE TO COME LATER.

  7. #64
    Orleans regulars,
    Did you guys noticed a blond, long hair, Alejandra?
    Or her cousin, Black jet hair, also long, Norali?
    The are a good looking pair of chicas.
    DWC

  8. #63
    Exon,
    She was relentless and had to have me so she could prove that She was No 1. There is some healthy competition going on here that we can have some fun with.
    MM

  9. #62
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    Mickey was this blond Carolina at Cafe Orleans ? . The girl I put the pesos on her table as I was leaving with Roberta ? Why you copy cat --- Exon

  10. #61
    Hook's, Catto, Ness, Nuevo Estillo, Orleans, Excedra have all been in play and a couple notes worth taking. I have had four Great encounters with four different women from four separate places and from what I can tell, things have been slow the last couple months in town and it seems the prices for the girls have stabilized (even lowered) a bit. There are some good lookers out there and the most I have paid was 200p for 2 1/2 hrs Carolina from Orleans. Last night I got shot down by the dancer at Catto (I had to try) and then I said No to 150p for 2 hrs with the dancer at Hook (I wanted TLN) then I settled for 150 TLN with another. God I feel so cheap!
    The story so far seems to be "Hook's": Beware of the waiter! Stormy, DH and self were there late on night one and we were paying as we go for our Cervezas and chicas. When I got up to leave with my girl (I was the last one, don't figure), I was presented with a 120p bill. I tried to explain that we had paid for everything as we went, but with No Luck. Since it was late and I was not in perfect condition, I decided not to make a scene because I was getting nowhere in my discussions.
    The next day I verified my facts with my accomplices to find that my memory was accurate. Gentlemen, I was hustled! Here is what happened and it has been verified by 2 friends (chicas) who work at Hook. The waiter was taking our pesos and putting them in his pocket and he "did not pay" any of our bill with them. I guess this is not the first time, but I will try and make sure it will be the last! You only pay 1 person there and that is the guy at the register behind the bar when presented with a bill. I am going to be intrduced to the owner so I can let him know what happened. I am told he doesn't know about this, but I'm not sure I believe that. Just thought you should know.
    Anyway, I love this place! And I never want to leave!
    MM

  11. #60
    Exon, it was my pleasure watching you two love birds reunited at my expense, but next time I charge a percentage on the exchange fee. A second place finish wasn't so bad as I decided to latch on to Carolina (no, not Exon's Republican) as my consolation. Now she is No Roberta, but this girl surprised the hell out of me. She did everything in her power to make me forget Roberta and prove she was No 1 ! Isn't competition Great? The menu was extensive and passionate and after 2 1/2 hrs it was No Mas for me.

    OK gang, here it is, my first 24 hrs in BA: The mouse is 4 for 4 and still roaring.

  12. #59

    Ladron de queso!

    Exon, you are a machine! You steal the poor mouse's cheese, and then use his pesos to do it with her. I think you owe him a night with Roberta alone for his brillant lay down. Either that, or get a two room suite, and have her switch rooms when she wears the other one out.

    Nice post, and the periods and paragraphs were perfect. Very readable. So, what's been happening with Carolina this week?

  13. #58
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    Initial quote was one hundred dollars, met with laughter and countered with one hundred pesos, also met with laughter. Settled on 150 for 2 hours after the usual routine of how I am not a tourist and know the score. Probably could have gotten it for less since the ratio was a healthy 10 to 1 or so.
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    Went to Cattos last night as well. Was quoted 250 pesos for 2 hrs. After the chica found out I knew the scene she quickly went to 150 pesos. I then told her that for 80-100 pesos I could get almost any girl next door at Hook. She acted surprised. Soon after she left my table.

    For those interested Cattos is next to Hook on the 900 block of suipacha. Last night there were about 35-40 chicas and many were good looking. The dancing girls were awsome and the blond singer was hot too. Not sure if the pole dancers were on the menu. Will ck it out later this weke and report.

    Was reported 20 pesos for salida from this club.

  14. #57
    Hook Report

    Went in last night and met some of the guys. I missed the AMA meeting. Met a VERY young and PETITE chica - 18 and still in school - who was sweet as pie. Her sister was also working there with her. My girls name was Claudia. She said she is still in school and has only worked there for 2 weeks or so. She is dark skinned with long black hair. Cute smile and maybe 5-2 100 lbs.

    Went to pussy central and had a great GFE, BBBJ, MPCS, DFK, DATY, photos, video, carinos. No anal. She is very young and a bit inexperienced but to have such a tender morsel was almost enough to make me soil my pants! I will see her again as she gave me her phone.

    20 pesos salida 100 peses the hour >she asked 130< plus 20 pesos tip.

    AS ALWAYS USE THIS BOARDS INFO AS CONFIDENTIAL. CHICAS DO NOT NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING THEY HAVE WRITTEN ON THEM.

    In short if you want to take her out...please do but use this info for your FYI and knowledge.

    Once again as stated before Hook seems to be the place for YOUNG girls and many new in the biz.

  15. #56
    Happy St. Paddy´s day!!!

    Tonight I have been told that there is a big party at the Irish Pub
    called Kilkenny.

    It is located on the corner of Marcelo T de Alvear and Reconquista
    in micro center and around the corner from pussy central or my apartment!

    I met a cute nonpro there last monday night who filled me in on the scene there. By the way any mongers who like the band U2 would be advised to go any Monday night at 1130P for a good U2 knock off band. Lots of fun.

    Killkenny is a bit expensive as they do not serve local beer. They have their own brand and other imports including guiness draft for 12-13 peso a pop.

    If you are intersted I have been told to come early today as it will be packed for the holiday.

    Anyone interested in hooking up can call me on my cell
    15-5040-2281

    D Rock and myself are planning to hit it early evening around 8-9p
    There are 3-4 other Irish/English type pubs nearby. Should be festive.

    After Killkenny I plan on going for the first time to Nuevo Estilo....perhaps we take a crew?

    OTH

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