2004 Reports - Edited

[Robert Palli]

Sorry to keep blabbering, but I hate this gringa prison and can't wait to go to brazil or baires. Even if you are willing to go for a less good looking girl with a great personality or so you think, it doesn't end up that way. They're all cons!

[Robert Palli]

And the sad thing is that this is a sex prison. Your only choice is to get married and then get divorced. What the hell?

[Robert Palli]

The sad thing is that Europe and Canada isn't too expensive. Just go read about my reports on Montreal and Quebec City. In England, you can get laid with a stunning girl for like 150 dollars or like 450 pesos. So it's not that bad considering it's like almost the say for a stunning girl in BA when it should be a lot less. So these girls leaving ba thinking they'll make more, probably won't. Since there's a lot more competition in europe. Just check the escorts listings in England. There's like a million of girl from all over the world. They're basically giving up a good market for a worse one. That's usually what happens when u get too greedy. I'm not putting them down or anything. I'm a greedy fellow too. It's just what greed does to you.

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[Slick1]

My heart bleeds for those mongers that lament and curse the recent influx of cash and tourists into Argentina, a country so long in dire need of an economic boost.

How dare the Argentinian Minister of Tourism blatantly promote this beautiful country knowing full well that the invading hordes of tourists will jeopardize the staked out claims of mongers proclaiming this city to be the land of 150 peso pussy. What a monumental lapse in foresight to not realize that the tourism and sex industries are so intertwined that it's downright impossible for one to prosper without the other.

I truly empathize with those mongers so compelled to place their own personal financial limitations above those of an entire country, but hey, such is life and free enterprise.

By the way, while some may "cringe" at Moondogs past postings I must admit they truly piqued my interest in BA and led to my initial visit shortly after the devaluation. I for one have always respected the posters who supply detailed informative posts on all aspects of life, rather than the banal rantings of a few, hellbent on imposing their view on how things should be done. Enough already with the artificial distinction between so called newbies and veterans when all it really boils down to is common sense, maturity and respect. Some have it before they ever step foot off the plane while others don't, no matter how many times they return.

General Custer, enjoy your trip. Actually this Quantity, Quality and price discussion resurfaces about every six months or so. There is more than enough to keep most anyone happy in BA initially. Sometimes however the novelty wears off for some and there is nothing left but to complain and reminisce about the good old days.

[Dodger Bulldog]

General Custer,

No need for concern. I returned from Bs. As. one week ago, and would love to be in your shoes heading back there next week.

There is an unending supply of beautiful, sexy, compliant women at reasonable prices in Argentina. Compared to what is available in the US, I find it unbelievable that anyone can complain about Argentina in the least.

I did much better concerning prices on my second trip than on my first. My ace in the hole is that I usually get quite a bit of extended time at no cost, because I make a point of being very nice to the chicas. Put on some romantic Latino music, pour a little vino, and talk to them about their lives.

They are used to being treated like a piece of meat, especially by the local Argentine men, so acting like a gentlemen goes a long way. Several commented on how surprised they were that I bothered to walk downstairs and wait with them for their taxi. They are used to men rolling over and snoring.

Following my first trip in June, I took careful notes concerning price, time, and quality, with the specific goal of obtaining much more value upon my return. There is no doubt in my mind that I did much better the second time, and will do better when I return again.

Here is a summary of the prices, time and quality that I experienced during my recent week there:

Location.......Pesos...Hours..Face..Body...'Tude......Perform

1.Orleans.........150.....1.......6........7...........5.............4

2.Orleans.........200.....5.......9........9..........10............9

3.Orleans.........125.....3.......9........9............9............9

4.Excedra.........300.....1.....10........8............6............7
(Moonlighting.....for..............7........7............9............8
from Madahos)..2 chicas

5.Catto's...........100.....2......5........5...........10...........8

6.Apartment......100.....1......7........7.............8...........8

7.Cutty Sark......150.....3......9........8...........10...........8

8.Internet..........150.....1......4........9............9...........8

9.Newport..........200.....1......5......10............9...........9

10.Newport........120.....2......5........5............6...........5

11.Orleans.........150.....2......6........8...........10.........10

As you can see, I definitely favor the cafes. I think that an unrushed, intimate conversation is the best predictor of a successful denouement. I spoke to many chicas that I passed on because things just weren't clicking between us.

It is clear to me that there is no correlation between the cost per hour and attitude and performance. Also, I think that on the whole I am a much tougher grader than most other mongers that I met in Bs. As.

DB

[General Custer]

Thanks fellas. This weekend cannot get here soon enough.

[JustGotBack]

General, don't worry about BA. It's still a great place to be. I would be happy to go there again tomorrow. We're just bemoaning the good old days.

As for the super hot girls leaving. More power to them. Why shouldn't they do the best they can for themselves. I wouldn't want there to be some form of sexual slavery where they are kept there if the can do better elsewhere. How many of us have moved for a better opportunity?

[Speculator]

Allow me to pile on.

General Custer,

Don’t worry about a thing man, your going to have an absolute great time. Cuba was cool, but there is absolutely no comparison to the experiences you are going to have in BA. BA is the whole package. Recoleta is all class. The city is fantastic. In Cuba your guard is way up all the time. BA is serene. You are still going to eat awesome steaks for around $10, and you still can’t screw your way out of BA no matter how much cash you bring. There are just too many chicas that your going to see that “have to get done” before you return home. It’s all good. Enjoy.

I’m off to Rio and SP soon. Should be a blowout!

Speculator

[Saint]

Starfe is absolutely correct. There are still great girls in this town. So much for my not wanting to spend more than last month on my "entertainment budget". Kick Stand and I went to China town to eat then decided to go to Rio Cabana. It might not be the best club for excitement but there are still some damn cute girls in there. The girls don't seem excited until you actually invite them over to sit down. After that they are laughing and all lovely dovey. I've never pulled a bad girl out of here.

It was Kick Stand's last night in town before he heads to Rio. We pulled out two cuties. I pulled out a blondie and Kick Stand pulled out the girl who stole Art Vandaly's cellphone a few weeks ago. She immediately recognized me and told me she was ashamed. At first she tried to claim it was an accident and I basically told her, "come on thief..you got caught," and she just put her head in her hands embarrassed. I told her that she should never do anything like that again.

Kick Stand doesn't speak Spanish but he seemed to be connecting well with his girl. We were all having a lot of laughs. I was cracking some jokes and a bunch of the girls there were laughing. There were a lot of girls working and before we left we were the only clients there. Just before we left a big group of Asian dudes walked in as usual.

Very reasonable prices when you consider that the price for your drink, the chicas exit drink and two hours is 187 pesos before tipping the waitress. Anyway, there are still places to go where you won't spend a fortune. My girl just left. Be careful though. She is like the 3rd girl I caught taking my picture with her camera on her cell phone. Generally I wouldn't allow it but now that I live here and I don't have any one to answer to... I kind of don't care. Those of you that are married might be singing a different tune.

No more hobbying here for a while. I am heading to Montevideo on Friday morning with a new friend I made. No romantic interest in her though. I actually might try to hobby one night as some dude emailed me about some good club there. I'll report back what I find out.

P.S. DaddyRulz, great post. I also wonder why no guys bring up the matter of paying for what you are actually attracted to vs. what you can afford then making excuses. I've talked to Andres before about it and asked him what his favorite type is and he admits it's the girls in Madahos type but that it's just too expensive. Let's be honest. All things being equal with price you would rather pull out a girl from Madahos/Black than Hook or the other cheaper clubs. Hotter girls will always command more. No way around it as far as I'm concerned.

[Daddy Rulz]

Ok I have to put in my two cents.

It´s a market. Like any market the suppliers will charge what the market will pay, it really is as simple as that. There is no right or wrong, there is no Latina underground network to drive prices up. They want more from us because we have more money. If you buy a plane ticket on Southern Winds for a flight to Chaco from their US web site they charge you more than an Argentine buying it here because, wait for it, our money is worth 3 times as much as theirs, they have none and we have a lot. I for one accept the SLIGHT tourist tax. If I could get even one of these girls to pay me 10 pesos for the honor of giving me a BBBJ I would take the money, if a different one offered 20 I would let her go first.

If you don´t like the price pass on the girl. (nicely please) and talk to the next one. Ultimatly WE determine the price by what we pay not what they charge.

The thing I always wonder why nobody talks about is the difference in quality. Since I hope we are all folowing Jackson´s excellent policy about paying after and not before. Why does nobody, with the exception of Saint, talk about paying a premium for what you want. I for one come here to have wicked nasty sex with the kind of women that wouldn´t talk to me in sex prison. (Ok except for ¨that will be another $20.00 if you want another dance") My thing is hot blondes that are tits on a stick. If I find the right one I´ll pay more. Bently's cost more than Pontiacs.

Custer makes a great point, I´ve been coming here since Jan 2001, the scene has changed and changed alot but I´d rather be here than Bangladesh.

Just my opinion, have a blast, play safe.

[Starfe]

General Custer,

My best trip to Buenos Aires was my last trip in July. You are going to see and taste some of the very best women the world has to offer. It still is a once in a lifetime city. Our critique of prices does not take away at all from the pure joy of picking and choosing the love of you're night.

Have a great time,

starfe

[General Custer]

I leave the board for a few hours to go to work and return this evening to find our very own monger version of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. I love it. You guys are alright.

Still, it's kind of disconcerting that the week before I make my first trip to BA, we're discussing the end of the glory days there. I have a knack for picking the so-called wrong times to be in mongering locations - Nashville just prior to the lockdown, Cuba post-crackdown, and now BA with its recovering economy and chica exodus. Except I still had a blast in Nashville, with a limitless pool of young talent, and where $80-$150 could land me the cute co-ed I had fantasized about in college, and $200-$300 would land me an all-American blond bombshell or raven-haired Southern beauty who I just wish I could tell my friends I had bedded.

And then there was Cuba, where it was easy to find two cute, playful, and passionate women at a time for several hours, all for the price of a steak at Ruth's Chris. And for $50 to $100, an unquestioned 8 or above on the world-wide monger scale from the clubs. No, there weren't women lined up on the Malecon for miles to see, but there were beauties in Cuba. They're always there. My problem with Cuba was not with the quality of the women, it was with the hoops you had to jump through to get to them.

So I'm still ever the optimist about this trip. Ignorance of past glory truly is bliss. With Cuba not worth the risk of a hefty fine at this point, my frame of reference remains daily life in the United States. Surely, gentlemen, for me the party is about to begin.

GC

[Latina Addict]

Oh my Gawd lexton! I hereby nominate you as the most eloquent, got your shit together, most objective monger yet. even though Jackson and Dickhead are kings in my book, they have competition in you and, every word you wrote today on 20 sep is gold, 100% true and unrebutable.

The New York Times needs to publish your last post and open people's eyes.

Here here.

Latina AddictE

[Andres]

Lexton said

This forum is interesting, because it gives one the opportunity to obtain information that is usually only available to a native of some time in an area. When a newbie asks for information to avoid the tourist traps, they are asking for information that normally is only acquired with difficulty and local experience. But there is a responsibility that comes with that information. That responsibility is basically to behave the way the people who acquired that information behaved, i.e. as veteran or local, so one doesn't create tourist exploiters. So they really need to study all that is available.

Hats off to you, Lexton. You couldn't have said it better.

I guess that, after Jackson retailors the forum, the local info will only be available for Senior members, thus avoiding the problems created by newbies in off-the-beaten-path places.

Andres

[HappyGoLucky]

As regards,
"The proper solution to this is to use this forum to monitor and study the market and then behave and pay accordingly."

I second the motion!
-HGL